Re: [svg-developers] Wrapping Text in SVG 2

2013-06-05 Thread Jeff Schiller
Hi Doug, I guess that height would also be needed for vertical fonts? I think I saw you mention that in one of your links... I can't really figure out how this would work for a text with a mixture of spans of horizontal / vertical text, but that's why I don't write specs! :) What if a text

Re: [svg-developers] How to file bug reports in all the different browsers

2013-04-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
The Chrome/Chromium link is: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/list You need this since Chrome is no longer based on WebKit (read up on Blink if you're interested in the details). Jeff On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 2:51 AM, meikelneu meikel...@yahoo.com wrote: ** --- In

Re: [svg-developers] XML:ID And Ethnicity - Multiple Attributes

2012-10-22 Thread Jeff Schiller
Use the class attribute? On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 3:48 PM, jamesd jcdeeri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** I am trying to make sense out of the xml:id tag and its usage as an attribute definer. Reading the web doesn't offer anything but contradictions. It seems that some want it to go away, leaving

Re: [svg-developers] Chrome not rendering image as expected (other browsers do)

2012-03-22 Thread Jeff Schiller
Looks fine to me in Chrome on OSX. What OS is this? Jeff On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 4:53 AM, AndrewB a.j.bras...@open.ac.uk wrote: ** Hello I'm hoping to get some guidance on why Chrome is not rendering a SVG image as expected. Here is a svg file which displays two icons

Re: [svg-developers] Group question concerning SVG in multiple browsers

2012-03-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
Why are you mailing around a HTML file? :) Jeff On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Brian Birtles birt...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Christian, I am unable to see the attachment. Perhaps you could copy the SVG file into your message? Or send a link to the file? Thanks, Brian (2012/03/05 22:33),

Re: [svg-developers] SVG for android?

2012-01-07 Thread Jeff Schiller
Any phone with Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS), the newest release of Android, has SVG support in the browser. Any tablet that has, I think, Honeycomb also has browser support for SVG. Also, Firefox and Opera have downloads for Android. Jeff On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:59 AM, David Dailey

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Scaling behaviour and the browser

2012-01-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
Also, give links to your bug and update it so that the test file actually works. https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=49093 Jeff On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Marty Sullivan dark3...@gmail.com wrote: Well I can't tell by a quick glance at your demos, but maybe go in depth into what tags

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Scaling behaviour and the browser

2012-01-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
You have to reduce your problem down to as-small-as-possible test case and then attach it to the bug. Jeff On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 1:54 PM, jamesd jcdeeri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** View demo, view source, select all, copy and paste into text editor. Good luck getting anyone to care. James

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Scaling behaviour and the browser

2012-01-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:20 PM, jamesd jcdeeri...@yahoo.com wrote: ** No, I don't. Not my problem. Lol. Actually it is - you discovered it :) Now who doesn't care? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Scaling behaviour and the browser

2012-01-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
No, the issue is that you can't select a previously selected color. On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:11 PM, t...@ymail.com t...@ymail.com wrote: ** --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, jamesd jcdeering1@... wrote: David wrote Of course that leaves out the one browser that doesn't do SMIL.

Re: [svg-developers] Caching SVG produced by PHP file

2011-12-20 Thread Jeff Schiller
It's not clear to me why you need to use embed and not object for your cached version. Can you have your PHP file check for the existence of the cached SVG file on your server? If not present, generate the file. If present, send that file's contents to the client. Jeff On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at

Re: [svg-developers] Communication with windows app

2011-11-10 Thread Jeff Schiller
evt.target is the element that was the target of the event On Nov 10, 2011 5:15 PM, Narcis narcisvasi...@yahoo.com wrote: ** I made a windows application which display a svg doc in an IE webbrowser control, with ASV. My svg doc have this functions: script type=text/ecmascript ![CDATA[

Re: [svg-developers] svg wiki space

2011-11-04 Thread Jeff Schiller
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, David Dailey ddai...@zoominternet.netwrote: ** I know some of you may have tired of this discussion from the last time it emerged, but perhaps technologies have changed in the past two years. Might there be some wiki-ish space that the SVG community could

Re: [svg-developers] getBBox of a stroked object

2011-09-17 Thread Jeff Schiller
svg-edit uses its own getStrokedBBox() function: http://code.google.com/p/svg-edit/source/browse/trunk/editor/svgcanvas.js#645 which, as you say, was non-trivial. Jeff On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 7:11 AM, David Dailey ddai...@zoominternet.netwrote: ** I'm certain this topic has been discussed

Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Drawing Tool - Simplified

2011-09-16 Thread Jeff Schiller
Looks like filters are coming in IE10 (yay!). On the other hand, it doesn't look very good for SMIL (boo) or SVG fonts (meh). And yes, Francis, by my count, 55% of the web can see SVG right now and only a small portion of those are using IE9. Jeff On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:02 PM, Jacob Beard

Re: [svg-developers] SVG Drawing Tool - Simplified

2011-09-15 Thread Jeff Schiller
if(user.indexOf(MSIE 9.0)==-1 user.indexOf(MSIE 10.0)==-1) um... I'm not trying to pile on here, but I can't fathom why you would design this application for one and only one browser. To my count, you're serving 7% of web users and leaving the other 48% (yes, almost half the web's users) out

Re: [svg-developers] Accurate thumbnails

2011-09-14 Thread Jeff Schiller
Would something like PhantomJS help: http://code.google.com/p/phantomjs/ ? Jeff On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM, matthias_moran matthias_mo...@yahoo.comwrote: ** Is it possible for a server process to generate accurate bitmap thumbnails of large svg documents ? I've looked at ImageMagik

Re: [svg-developers] IE9 and Quirks

2011-09-14 Thread Jeff Schiller
Can you explain how you're serving your document, what kind it is and what DOCTYPE you're including? On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Chris Peto svg...@resource-solutions.dewrote: ** Hi, I don't understand why IE9 goes to IE 9 Quirks mode, instead of IE9 standard, since svg is

Re: [svg-developers] browser differences in cloning objects that are no longer there

2011-09-12 Thread Jeff Schiller
These are not your problems, but: a) cloneNode(false) http://www.w3.org/TR/DOM-Level-3-Core/core.html#ID-3A0ED0A4 takes a boolean, not a string. Any non-empty string is a true value. b) o=evt.currentTarget Creates a global JavaScript variable called 'o' Jeff On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:55

Re: [svg-developers] Convert SVG to PDF

2011-09-05 Thread Jeff Schiller
Inkscape can export as PDF. On Sep 5, 2011 4:10 AM, scalablev s...@oyvindeid.com wrote: Can anyone recommend a good Asp.Net component for this? The SVG must not be rasterized when converted to PDF. Google suggests these:

Re: [svg-developers] SVG Date Chooser (Picker) component

2011-08-21 Thread Jeff Schiller
Out of curiosity, why would you choose SVG for this as opposed to HTML? (And just because I can't think of a reason, doesn't mean there isn't a good one.) Jeff 2011/8/21 Zdeněk Kedaj zdenek.ke...@gmail.com ** Hi, Is there any implementation of date chooser (picker) component for SVG?

Re: [svg-developers] SVG editors?

2011-06-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
Just an FYI, you can use scour to clean up SVG output by editors... Jeff On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 12:16 PM, John Delacour j...@bd8.com wrote: At 22:25 + 05/06/2011, afuji1024 wrote: I'd like to create SVG charts from a database app. However, I know nothing about creating SVG, so I'd

Re: [svg-developers] Any SVG editor with a trace function?

2011-04-22 Thread Jeff Schiller
I think this would be an interesting idea. Basically you would: a) load an SVG document into the DOM, put it into an invisible container (display:none) b) then walk the DOM in a depth-first fashion, cloning elements one a time, to a visible container Jeff 2011/4/22 Barend Köbben

Re: [svg-developers] Help with viewBox attribute and transforms

2011-03-18 Thread Jeff Schiller
This file saved as .xhtml works for me in Chrome, Safari, Firefox, and Opera: ?xml version=1.0? html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml; body span class=image svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; version=1.1 width=1000px height=110px svg viewBox=0 0 194 102

Re: [svg-developers] convert SVG to Png on WEB

2011-03-03 Thread Jeff Schiller
http://canvg.googlecode.com/ On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Mr Rauf cute_rauf_...@yahoo.com wrote: hi All, how can i convert my svg file in png or jpeg on my web application?? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To

Re: [svg-developers] In SVG what is parallel to innerHTML

2011-02-21 Thread Jeff Schiller
Raks, There is, unfortunately, no browser that supports innerHTML on SVG content, yet. I wrote a little library that does this: http://innersvg.googlecode.com/ Regards, Jeff On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Raks A raks...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am changing the SVG content with javascript

Re: [svg-developers] Filter Help

2011-02-20 Thread Jeff Schiller
On Sun, Feb 20, 2011 at 1:03 PM, patrickdengler patrickdeng...@yahoo.comwrote: I've been stuck on using filters for a very specific effect that I am hoping the experts here can help me with. How exciting!!! :) I was going to suggest feDisplacementMap as a starting point, but I haven't

Re: [svg-developers] SVG SMIL in Safari ( Test Sample )

2011-02-19 Thread Jeff Schiller
Safari is powered by WebKit so you should be able to get some idea by looking at Chrome (though the WebKit powering Safari on iOS is different). Jeff On Feb 19, 2011 6:49 AM, Raks A raks...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have written a SVG SMIL animation but as I do not have any iOS device can

Re: [svg-developers] Re: Native support for page panning in browsers

2011-01-20 Thread Jeff Schiller
Hi Francis, On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Francis Hemsher fhems...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, Because SVG has no specifics on UI zoom and pan, many of us have had to create script packages to accomplish this. No matter how elegant our zoom/pan works, it still requires the user to

[svg-developers] Re:displaying svg on IE after 12-31-08

2008-12-30 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Kenneth Nellis nelli...@... wrote: I believe that IE7 renders SVG. And, although Adobe is dropping support for ASV, I wonder if they will still offer it for download on their site. And, if not, if they will allow others to distribute it. —Ken Nellis

[svg-developers] Re: Opera 8.5 Support Javascript on SVG Doc?

2008-10-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
Just to correct some facts here: - Opera didn't support JavaScript with SVG until 9.0 - there was no Opera 9.3 I highly recommend looking into Mr. Dailey's examples of SVG... Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes I believe Opera has

[svg-developers] Re: Opera 8.5 Support Javascript on SVG Doc?

2008-10-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Charles McCathieNevile [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:18:53 +0200, forever_successful [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello SVG Developers! I want to ask if Opera 8.5 support JS on SVG Document or not? From memory, JS support for

[svg-developers] Re: Magic: SVG drag of Element using jquery svg is most simple

2008-10-08 Thread Jeff Schiller
Another example: http://www.codedread.com/code.php#dragsvg svg ... xmlns:drag=http://www.codedread.com/dragsvg; onload=initializeDraggableElements() onmouseup=mouseUp(evt) onmousemove=mouseMove(evt) script id=draggableLibrary xlink:href=http://www.codedread.com/dragsvg.js; /

[svg-developers] Re: FakeSmile: addEventListener load does not work

2008-10-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi David, It appears that the last line in FakeSmile window.addEventListener(load, initSMIL, false); does not work in ASV/IE6. This is not a big problem for me. I just added a try/catch statement (below)

[svg-developers] Re: Detect SMIL presence with Javascript

2008-10-04 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and I forgot to tell you, FakeSMILe doesn't support hasFeature either. yes - I am aware. while we are at FakeSMIL: On a sidenote, the library's name is FakeSmile [1] Not FakeSMILe. Not FakeSMIL. :) I

[svg-developers] Re: Setting value of xlink:href

2008-09-26 Thread Jeff Schiller
-Tricks_of_Javascript_and_declarative_animation/index.html#slide13 Cheers /Erik On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 18:23:04 +0200, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have to use namespace-aware API methods: setAttributeNS(http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;, href, signalName); Regards, Jeff --- In svg

[svg-developers] Re: Setting value of xlink:href

2008-09-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
You have to use namespace-aware API methods: setAttributeNS(http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink;, href, signalName); Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zedkineece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to set the value of xlink:href, but having issues trying to understand how to

[svg-developers] Re: Safari problem with no nought

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The syntax for the begin attribute is borrowed from SMIL, and the grammar doesn't allow for a . to start a Clock-value. Possibly this is because it can cause confusion with id-values, but I haven't looked at it in

[svg-developers] Re: SVG support detection in browserland

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff Schiller
can test that individual DOM attributes/methods exist (not all implementations have covered 100% of the SVG DOM yet). Regards, Jeff Schiller - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers

[svg-developers] Re: SVG embedded within HTML

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff Schiller
made any errors in your page (the entire page will not render, in Firefox this is called a 'Yellow Screen Of Death'). This is good to detect errors if you're publishing a 'static' site, but if you have dynamic or user-contributed content it is much trickier Regards, Jeff Schiller

[svg-developers] Re: SVG embedded within HTML

2008-09-12 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, John C. Turnbull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have another question about SVG support in browsers... Does SVG work just as well in browsers when it's embedded within an HTML document as it does it only work fully when it's an SVG-only document? If

[svg-developers] Re: Safari problem with no nought

2008-09-10 Thread Jeff Schiller
[1] describes each of the path commands as having 'coordinates'. [2] says that coordinates are lengths which are numbers which can be in decimal notation: either an integer, or an optional sign character followed by zero or more digits followed by a dot (.) followed by one or more digits.

[svg-developers] Event Handling With Overlapping Objects

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Schiller
events on the circle... Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Jeff Schiller - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your

[svg-developers] Re: Event Handling With Overlapping Objects

2008-09-09 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This appears to be a simple problem, but sadly I haven't yet figured out a solution. - contained within the bounding box of a rectangle is a circle - only when the mouse enters the bounding box of the rectangle, I

[svg-developers] Re: hyperlink new window problem

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Schiller
I've always used target=_blank (note the underscore) [1], but I don't know if that works in IE7. Regards, Jeff [1] http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#valid10 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, darkolaf77 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Bruce I tried your hint, now it links

[svg-developers] Re: hyperlink new window problem

2008-07-22 Thread Jeff Schiller
Also, I suggest trying ASV3 and Renesis 1.1.1 --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Olaf Schnabel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi developers I need a workaround for a linking problem. In my small example http://www.ika.ethz.ch/schnabel/hyperlink.svg I want to click on a rectangle and a new

[svg-developers] Re: Providing for multiple browsers

2008-07-01 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, cwflamont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://blog.codedread.com/. http://intertwingly.net/blog. Erm ... this is exactly what I am asking about. Neither of the above blogs work properly in IE, (SVG not rendered, tried on 3 different machines) though in

[svg-developers] Re: Providing for multiple browsers

2008-06-30 Thread Jeff Schiller
Hello Charles, In my opinion, this depends on the type of SVG you want to embed into your pages. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, cwflamont [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could someone please point me towards recent thinking on how to get SVG content to download and display properly in

[svg-developers] Re: SVG file structure/source code

2008-02-15 Thread Jeff Schiller
Hello Nevi, One of the benefits of SVG is that the file _is_ the source code - the image is just plain text, though it may not be obvious to a newbie. If the document you're looking at is a pure SVG file, you can click View Source in your browser. If the document is HTML with an SVG file

[svg-developers] Re: Carousel Animation - any way declaratively?

2007-09-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
, Erik Dahlström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:17:49 +0200, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, Painter's Model: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/render.html#PaintersModel I'm not sure, but I think you missed the key aspect here - think of the icons

[svg-developers] Re: Carousel Animation - any way declaratively?

2007-09-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, brucerindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you really want to ignite your CPU cooling fan: http://www.lrcwe-data.com/tmp/test2.svg Bruce - that's very clever! Thank you! - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit

[svg-developers] Carousel Animation - any way declaratively?

2007-09-24 Thread Jeff Schiller
Think of some icons arranged on a carousel, with an animation that would spin the carousel so that the closest icon to you is the selected icon. Is there any way to do this declaratively? Seems like the z-order and painter's model poses a problem that requires scripting to fix, but I would

[svg-developers] Re: Carousel Animation - any way declaratively?

2007-09-24 Thread Jeff Schiller
a situation that cannot be easily handled by animation in SVG. Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Schiller wrote: Think of some icons arranged on a carousel, with an animation that would spin the carousel so that the closest icon to you

[svg-developers] Safari 3 Links broken (target=_top or _parent)

2007-09-14 Thread Jeff Schiller
http://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15214 :( Can anyone think of a decent way around this? Currently I'm thinking of not even using svg:a elements and just use some script like: g onclick=top.location.href='foo.html' cursor=pointer / The problem with this is that since ASV is a plugin, it

[svg-developers] Re: SVG 1.2 Tes suite

2007-09-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
Julien, I asked this question of the SVG Working Group over two months ago and it's been ignored: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-svg/2007Jun/0032.html Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Julien Reichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Is there an SVG tiny 1.2

[svg-developers] Re: Creating SVG format file from GIF Image

2007-09-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
Selva, There are many programs that will trace a bitmap and try to render it as SVG paths. I don't know how successful you will be with this, but you can try Inkscape or you can try potrace directly. Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, selvapsg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear

[svg-developers] Re: SVG in Opera 9.5 Kestrel

2007-09-05 Thread Jeff Schiller
Antoine, It doesn't seem like any major new features per se, but many bug fixes. In particular, the following tests now pass in Opera 9.5 but did not pass in Opera 9.2-: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20061213/htmlObjectHarness/full-filters-displace-01-f.html

[svg-developers] Re: Safari 3 Beta now available for Windows and Macintosh

2007-06-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is great news. Safari Beta is now available for Windows and Macintosh: http://www.apple.com/safari/ SVG is enable, but strangely, it only works for local files for me. Files, e.g. from

[svg-developers] Re: foreignObject: Anyone found out a good way to dump HTML into SVG with it?

2007-04-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
What UAs are you trying it in? I've never yet played with foreignObject, though it's going to be enabled in Firefox 3 from what I understand. Not sure if Opera has support for it yet. Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, sirlemmingviii [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe I'm just naive

[svg-developers] Re: Interesting data on SVG

2007-04-23 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, David Dailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Schiller's web site just popped up a very interesting chart: http://www.codedread.com/svg-support.php It gives a quick comparison of the state of support for SVG in several different environments. He has some

[svg-developers] Re: About SVG DOM Interfaces

2007-03-05 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Prem Dasari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to know where the SVG DOM interfaces will be used. I guess these will be used by applications for accessing /updating the Document. Yes, Prem - this is what the DOM interfaces are used for (exactly

[svg-developers] Re: Problem with Renesis and Firefox or new server?

2007-02-19 Thread Jeff Schiller
Well if it worked before and you moved servers and now it doesn't work - doesn't that sound very much like a server-related problem? :) I know that Opera and IE+ASV try to figure out the MIME type based on the extension (and perhaps other things), while Firefox must be told the MIME type. Jeff

[svg-developers] Re: Microsoft -- VML, SVG, XAML

2007-02-14 Thread Jeff Schiller
Most of what we can discuss here will be pure speculation, but I have heard from some sources that a future version of IE will support SVG. Chris Wilson has publicly stated that Microsoft considers SVG one of the core standards that all browsers should implement (it was lumped into the bucket

[svg-developers] Re: Swapping attribute values on large numbers of elements

2007-01-24 Thread Jeff Schiller
in response to events - what does this mean? What event? Does the event give you any indication of which element needs to be swapped? Can each rectangle's two y values be different from any other rectangle? Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, simonshutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[svg-developers] Re: View source in IE 7

2007-01-10 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, ddailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In IE6 I was able to use view source from the right context menu to see SVG source. Not in IE7. The only workarounds I've found are to use Opera or FF. Another thing for your list perhaps, Andreas. cheers, David

[svg-developers] SVG in a XHTML:table

2007-01-02 Thread Jeff Schiller
I have a question about XHTML+SVG when it comes to laying out SVG in a HTML:table. Here's my minimal test case. I've also sent the question to the www-svg and public-cdf lists: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.1//EN

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Logo Contest

2006-12-21 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, brucerindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller jeff_schiller@ wrote: Too bad Firefox/Opera don't support SVG-as-image as we recently discussed in this forum. Having to copy the logo into every SVG file we

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Logo Contest

2006-12-21 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Jeff- Jeff Schiller wrote: Another question to anyone out there: I don't see any way from within JavaScript to determine the SVGScriptElement (http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/script.html

[svg-developers] Re: ASV End-of-life cancelled and IE 7.2 with native SVG support???

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Schiller
Since the information you are quoting is coming from my blog, I feel it my duty to respond. Adobe, EOL, ASV: http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2006/12/18/adobe-allows-svg-viewer-download-indefinitely/ explains that Adobe no longer plans to remove the download. It DOES NOT say that they are

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Logo Contest

2006-12-20 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Doug Schepers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi- Last week, the panel of judges for the SVG logo contest decided upon the finalists and the winner of the contest. We are pleased to announce that the winning entry is available for viewing here:

[svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
But you do know it has been possible, for quite some time, to render core SVG instructions on the majority of desktops today, right? http://deng.com.br/features/ If you wish to improve the rendering instructions, then you can do so... it's an opensource SWF which contains the SVG code:

[svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, T Rowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mozilla as an ActiveX control already exists: http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/control.htm You'd still be stuck with the click-to-active behavior of plugins in IE. The other options outside of an IE plugin are: 1)

[svg-developers] Re: WPF/E Goes Beta Community preview available for download

2006-12-06 Thread Jeff Schiller
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[svg-developers] Re: Renesis Player 0.2 Release

2006-10-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Chris Lilley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday, October 9, 2006, 4:00:06 PM, Jeff wrote: JS 4) http://www.codedread.com/svgtest.svg also says that no SVG 1.0 or JS 1.1 feature strings are implemented. Are you planning to support SVG JS 1.1 at

[svg-developers] Re: Renesis Player 0.2 Release

2006-10-09 Thread Jeff Schiller
I'm glad to see Renesis is inching closer to being a plugin for SVG content in Internet Explorer, though I'm finding it far from usable at the moment. I haven't realy touched on any DOM issues yet. Disclaimer: I've never written any SVGT 1.2 content yet, so this is my first attempt. 1)

[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF

2006-09-12 Thread Jeff Schiller
Tim, I'm not sure where this misconception arose, but Firefox does indeed support compressed svg (.svgz) files. You need to make sure your web server properly supports directives though. As per http://jwatt.org/ svg/authoring/#server-configuration, for Apache this means for the .svgz

[svg-developers] Re: 'Native' SVG support in Opera and FF

2006-09-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, zedkineece [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * setAttribute is not working at all in FF, and we get varying results in Opera. Use setAttributeNS(). I've never had a problem with this in either Firefox or Opera. Just remember that the attributes on SVG entities

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe's greed clearing the way for XAML

2006-09-08 Thread Jeff Schiller
Jonathan, I agree, sound/audio is a sorely lacking component of the online web experience, I guess because maybe no one had proposed an open standard for audio/sound until lately (HTML5), so Netscape had some proprietary way, so does Flash, etc. Sound/audio is something outside the scope of

[svg-developers] Re: Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-07 Thread Jeff Schiller
We can't rely on Microsoft, just like we shouldn't have been comfortable relying on Adobe, to do the right thing and implement native support for SVG for free. There are business considerations that will always take priority. Even if they do it, I fear compatibility issues - their browser

[svg-developers] Re: Is Adobe's greed clearing the way for XAML

2006-09-07 Thread Jeff Schiller
Actually Jon, I agree with both of your recent points... you stole my thunder on both accounts! ;) 1) Watch out for Dojo 0.4 for the cross-browser 2D graphics API (VML on IE and SVG everywhere else). I've been hearing good things, anyway. 2) Watch for IE8+ (i.e. something after IE7) to

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Doubt

2006-06-02 Thread Jeff Schiller
This is one of the things which confused me in the very beginning. The script element in SVG is not exactly the same as the script element in HTML. It is not obvious how to include external scripts from the spec: http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/script.html#ScriptElement It's like the specification

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Doubt

2006-06-02 Thread Jeff Schiller
... And what is the externalResourcesRequired attribute all about? Now I'm confused... Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is one of the things which confused me in the very beginning. The script element in SVG is not exactly the same

[svg-developers] Re: Help

2006-06-02 Thread Jeff Schiller
Pramod, I wrote a couple quick tutorials for beginners with SVG. Maybe they will help you: http://www.codedread.com/SVGKS_1a.php Regards, Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Pramod Eligeti. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I just need some good material on the typical functioning

[svg-developers] Re: SVG Doubt

2006-06-02 Thread Jeff Schiller
THE FUTURE WILL TELL. Thanks Phi On 6/2/06, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, digging a little more the spec (http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/attindex.html) says that xlink:href is not defined for the script element after all. Is this something that all

[svg-developers] Windows Live Local Now Uses SVG !

2006-05-25 Thread Jeff Schiller
a href=http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2006/05/25/microsoft-live-local-now-uses-svg/;Link/a. What a pleasant surprise! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how.

[svg-developers] Re: How to close the opened window

2006-05-23 Thread Jeff Schiller
In the second window, use the window.close() method. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, chmavrog [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi my code is that: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8? !DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11-flat-20030114.dtd;

[svg-developers] Re: Book recommendations - SVG in Mozilla?

2006-05-19 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would not make sense to target a single SVG viewer implementation. A book should target the specification and not a specific implementation. As the history of SVG shows, viewers appear and disappear but the

[svg-developers] Re: svg-developers] audio in svg

2006-05-19 Thread Jeff Schiller
Brett, Until SVG 1.2 begins to be implemented by browsers you have one of two choices for audio in SVG: 1) Use Adobe SVG Viewer's proprietary extensions that play audio 2) Use Opera 9 in which they've implemented the WHATWG-proposed HTML5 Audio object (non-declarative, script-based) Firefox

[svg-developers] Re: svg-developers] audio in svg

2006-05-19 Thread Jeff Schiller
in particular on my pc, or do I need additional code in the svg program to point to the location of the file. Thanks. Brett --- Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett, Until SVG 1.2 begins to be implemented by browsers you have one of two choices for audio in SVG: 1

[svg-developers] SVG Roadshow (XTech Presentation)

2006-05-19 Thread Jeff Schiller
http://people.mozilla.com/~vladimir/xtech2006/ About 5 slides on SVG and 14 on canvas (including some stuff on Canvas3D). What got me about this presentation is the slide-pack has about 8 slides with some really cool-looking canvas demos: a video game, a plush web-stat chart, funky

[svg-developers] Re: Does Opera really suck this badly?

2006-05-18 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, James C. Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley jim@ wrote: on windows Opera 9 latest weekly, the only issue with your example is a rather bright gamma, other than that it looks fine, have you got a screen

[svg-developers] Re: Does Opera really suck this badly?

2006-05-18 Thread Jeff Schiller
Btw, I looked at it in IE+ASV and the image is not blurry, the drop-shadow is there and the gamma is fine. --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, James C. Deering jcdeering1@ wrote: --- In svg-developers

[svg-developers] Re: IE 5, 6,7 Support SVG 'Natively'? -Make it easy-

2006-05-18 Thread Jeff Schiller
Phi, Can you give us some more information here? I haven't installed your DLL yet, but what is it exactly - is it a plugin for IE? Do you have some more information like what SVG features it supports, how it works. I'm afraid I had a little trouble understanding your text file. FYI, just

[svg-developers] Re: Google maps SVG support

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeroen Vanattenhoven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: According to this Ajaxian article, Google Maps will support SVG: http://ajaxian.com/archives/google-maps-svn-support. Jeroen Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm Jeroen,

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
to completely abandon SVG, then including SVG support in IE maybe makes sense strategically ? This would explain why Adobe is so silent about their intent about SVG. Jean-David Jeff Schiller wrote: Francis, Not sure why I'm nominated, but thanks - I guess ;) Anyway, I did send

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
think that would be amazing. Of course this isn't trivial ;) Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To everyone on this list: I did get a private reply from Chris Wilson of the IEBlog a few days ago and have debated whether to relay the news

[svg-developers] Re: Check this out...

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, a_spit_wad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.google.com/trends?q=svg%2C+vml% 2C+xamlctab=0date=allgeo=all Yep, I had some thoughts here: http://www.getsvg.com/general/announcements/google_trends_api_for_svg Yahoo! Groups

[svg-developers] Re: two graphics, each produces a unique sound onmouseover

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jonathan Chetwynd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: two SVG graphics, each produces a unique sound onmouseover: http://bugzilla.opendarwin.org/attachment.cgi?id=8239 regards Jonathan Chetwynd requires foreignObject and audio support in this case Safari

[svg-developers] Re: two graphics, each produces a unique sound onmouseover

2006-05-11 Thread Jeff Schiller
Good, but O9 doesn't support mp3 (last I experimented). WAV files only, please! :P Jeff --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jim Ley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Schiller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Shouldn't you be putting this in a try,catch block? :P

[svg-developers] Re: Vote for SVG Support in IE7

2006-05-05 Thread Jeff Schiller
than extend this further. I'd like to nominate Jeff Schiller to revisit that blog to present the SVG Developers Statement, based on the comments from the voting list. This statement would assist the IE7 team to make a decision, and see the future if the right decision is made. We can

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