Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 10:00:03PM +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 17:14 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 06:03:37PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > > I'm not sure where you get that from. The usual interpretation is that > > > linking

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Uoti Urpala
On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 17:14 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 06:03:37PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > > I'm not sure where you get that from. The usual interpretation is that > > linking to a GPLed library means the linked work must be GPL as well. > > I

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Uoti Urpala
On Thu, 2017-06-08 at 22:00 +0300, Uoti Urpala wrote: > compiled code, or copy relocations copying arbitrary amounts of data > into an executable. It seems pretty clear that this can be considered a Rereading that, copy relocations are actually not that good an example since the copying normally

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 06:03:37PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 01:47:56PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 09:40:17AM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > > > > No, that makes no sense. It'd mean that putting two zip files that

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Krzysztof Jackiewicz
> I interpret them as FSF wanting to drum up the importance of GPL a bit by > purposefully not clarifying this area. The case of linking non-GPL software with > GPL libraries is quite common and important, and if they wanted to add an entry > to the FAQ, they certainly would. They talk a lot about

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 09:40:17AM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > > No, that makes no sense. It'd mean that putting two zip files that one > > provides > > and the other uses a function with the same name next to one another would > > make them somehow connected and derivatives of one

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Krzysztof Jackiewicz
> You need to consult a lawyer to get a definitive answer for this, please don't > ask developers for legal advice :) Yeah, it seems so :) Initially I thought that the answer is more obvious. ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-08 Thread Krzysztof Jackiewicz
> No, that makes no sense. It'd mean that putting two zip files that one > provides > and the other uses a function with the same name next to one another would > make them somehow connected and derivatives of one another. The whole > point of dynamic linking is that you can provide independent

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:26:21PM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > Thanks, for explanation. > > > - a collection of rpms, like a linux distro, including systemd.rpm, > > libcryptsetup.rpm, and thousands of other loosely coupled rpms > > → that's a mere aggregation, each of the thousands

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 05:26:21PM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > Thanks, for explanation. > > > - a collection of rpms, like a linux distro, including systemd.rpm, > > libcryptsetup.rpm, and thousands of other loosely coupled rpms > > → that's a mere aggregation, each of the thousands

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Krzysztof Jackiewicz
Thanks, for explanation. > - a collection of rpms, like a linux distro, including systemd.rpm, > libcryptsetup.rpm, and thousands of other loosely coupled rpms > → that's a mere aggregation, each of the thousands of components carries > it's own license, each has to be satisfied separately

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2017 at 11:47:58AM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > > Not sure what "release product under GPL" is supposed to mean. > > The combined work would have to be licensed under GPL according to: > https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility >

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Krzysztof Jackiewicz
> Not sure what "release product under GPL" is supposed to mean. The combined work would have to be licensed under GPL according to: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#AllCompatibility https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#IfLibraryIsGPL I think that it means that the code has to be

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 07.06.17 09:49, Krzysztof Jackiewicz (k.jackiew...@samsung.com) wrote: > I guess the "conflict" was not the best word to describe it. > > If I want to release a product with systemd the libryptsetup option will > force me to release it under GPL. Is that correct? Not sure what "release

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Krzysztof Jackiewicz
.pl] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2017 5:00 PM To: Krzysztof Jackiewicz Cc: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:33:11PM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that when sy

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 06.06.17 16:33, Krzysztof Jackiewicz (k.jackiew...@samsung.com) wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that when systemd is configured with libcryptsetup option enabled > it will link to libcryptsetup which is distributed under GPL 2.0. It seems > like a license conflict to me. Can anyone explain

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd license vs. libcryptsetup license

2017-06-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jun 06, 2017 at 04:33:11PM +0200, Krzysztof Jackiewicz wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that when systemd is configured with libcryptsetup option enabled > it will link to libcryptsetup which is distributed under GPL 2.0. It seems > like a license conflict to me. Can anyone explain it? A