Re: t-and-f: Q. MAI Galan in Malmo result?

Hi, The results from Malmö can be found at http://www.mai.se/evenemang/mai-galan/index_mai-galan.htm click on Resultat. Peter Larsson Dear Listers: Does anyone have the result of MAI Galan in Malmo, Sweden held on Monday, 20 August? Thanks in advance. Regards, Yukito

Re: t-and-f: More Dope News

Kurt Bray wrote: Tonight on The Simpsons: Homer enters the Springfield Marathon and gets so dehydrated during the race that he is mistaken for Grandpa. Late in the race an athlete from Australia and one from Djibouti are dueling for the lead. Obviously the story-writer saw that

Re: t-and-f: More jeers for Yegorova

Uri Goldbourt wrote: Apparently, Yegorva won in both Edmonton and Zurich EPO-free and Epo's effects don't last beyond a few days. Has it occurred to us that she must have some ability even withoput the boost of EPO? I think it is pretty obvious that training and preparations with EPO

Re: t-and-f: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

Miguel wrote: And please spare me the effects of a lifetime of drug taking. Many drugs help us and nobody is thinking twice about taking them when they need. The Florence Joyner case happened because she took way too many drugs without any proper medical control. I don't see the same

RE: t-and-f: More jeers for Yegorova

This is not totally accurate but right now I do not have the time to elaborate. This is not the case of steroids used for quicker recovery. UG -- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ralf Linnemann Sent:

Re: t-and-f: Linz GP top 3

Dan Kaplan schreef: Monday's Linz GP results 200-1, Shawn Crawford, United States, 20.46. 2, Kevin Little, United States, 20.57. 3, Jake Jenson, United States, 20.79. This is getting ridiculous. We may need to send the Texas high schoolers over there to shake things up! Dan What I saw

Re: t-and-f: How to train NOT to be able to kick and win races.!!

Alan Shank wrote: Steve Bennett wrote: If you want to train to run good times over 1500 -1m but never win major races do the following. 1. Do lots of long slow distance training.160km a week plus. IIRC, Harald Norpoth, who was a deadly finisher, was coached by a guy

t-and-f: Selected results from Germany

Eberstadt, 19 Aug HJ: 1. Voronin RUS 2.37, 2. Boswell CAN 2.33, 3. Rybakov RUS + Kreissig + Sotomayor CUB 2.30, 6. Klyugin RUS 2.27, 7. Holm SWE 2.27, 8. Boateng CAN 2.24, 9. Buss 2.24 Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field Statisticians

Re: t-and-f: How to train NOT to be able to kick and win races.!!

The coach was Dr. Ernst van Aken, who (in the 50s and 60s) advocated a similar training approach as Lydiard, and who claimed that women are more suited for endurance sports (like 12 hour runs or triple triathlons) as men. He wrote many popular books on distance running, was one of the main

t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

What about the USA team uniforms A few barbs were directed at Masback in Edmonton in respect to the color of the the uniforms. Hard to distinguish in non-lane races, which athletes are from the USA! Masback informed the die-hard fans that Nike spent over $100, 000 on the design. Maybe it

t-and-f: Re: altitude aid (was: El G's pace in Zürich

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:14:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is NO effect on performance in either the sprints or distances at 2000 feet. The Air pressure is essentialy the same. The boffins who created the wind/altitude-aid charts for our Big

Re: t-and-f: Linz GP top 3

--- Wilmar Kortleever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I saw on television (thanks again to Eurosport) conditions were far from good (pooring rain), at least for some part of this meet. Was the 200 the only event affected? The other times seemed much more respectable. Make that, the other times

t-and-f: Pre's education (was: How to train NOT to be able to kick and win races.!!

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 9:09:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Norpoth was a sit and kicker and ran down Pre a number of times during their meetings. Supposedly he ran most of his runs at 7-8 mins per mile with a very little race pace work done once a day.

t-and-f: USATF Release: Discus thrower carries torch for USA at WUGs

Contact:Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications http://www.usatf.org 317-261-0500 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Tuesday, August 21, 2001 Discus thrower carries the torch for Team USA BEIJING - If the United States wanted maximum visibility with its torchbearer for

t-and-f: IAAF Rankings: A laugh a minute

Normally I don't spend much, if any, time looking at the IAAF Rankings. But for some reason, one of them jumped off the page at me last week during the Zurich meeting. Here I was, looking at the stellar accomplishments of 800-meter runner David Kiptoo of Kenya, who ran as David Singoei when a

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f: Re: altitude aid (was: El G's pace in Zürich

There is NO effect on performance in either the sprints or distances at 2000 feet. The Air pressure is essentialy the same. The boffins who created the wind/altitude-aid charts for our Big Green Book maintain that 800m of altitude (c2400ft) is worth 0.03 seconds in the 100 in still air. I

Re: t-and-f: Altitude correction... opinion stands...

At 04:24 AM 8/21/01 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Netters Ed Dana Parrot writes: However, if a physical adaptation DOES occur, then it stands to reason that even with adaptation the times will be slower for distance runners. There is no biological impetus for acclimatization to

Re: t-and-f: Suzy's thoughts about Edmonton and the rest of theseason

Which Suzy is this? I guess if you had to ask, the message wasn't meant for you. ;-) But as far as I know Suzy Favor-Hamilton is the only person in big time track who goes by Suzy. If someone had referred to simply Hicham would you have reacted as indignantly? Kurt (Bray)

RE: t-and-f: Altitude correction... opinion stands...

Agreed. Reinhold Messner is an amazing individual. In addition to solo'ing Everest, he was also the first man to climb all 8000m peaks (14 of them) in the world WITHOUT supplemental oxygen (to this day only 4 more have done it). He was also the second man to climb to the highest point on every

Re: t-and-f: More Dope News

Ralf asked: For pure curiosity, how did he disguise as a German? Leather shorts and hat with feather? He wore a fake mustache and a T-shirt with a German flag on the front. I don't remember whether he also had a hat. Kurt Bray

Re: t-and-f: Re: t-and-f: Re: altitude aid (was: El G's pace in Zürich

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:19:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could debate endlessly how much, if any, effect on performance there is at this low altitude, but it would undoubtedly be small enough that unless someone attempted run a

Re: t-and-f: Altitude correction... opinion stands...

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:10:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Steve Grathwohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The guy whose hematocrit I want to know about is Reinhold Messner, the first man to climb Everest without supplemental oxygen. In fact, I would rate his *solo* climb of Everest

Re(2): t-and-f: Linz GP top 3

[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: --- Wilmar Kortleever [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I saw on television (thanks again to Eurosport) conditions were far from good (pooring rain), at least for some part of this meet. Was the 200 the only event affected? The other times seemed much more

Re: t-and-f: Re: Yegorova - the only enormous improver?

P.F.Talbot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this suspicion due to various governing bodies catching people from time to time? When was the last time anyone really thought about drug use in major sports? It's certainly higher than in track and field but people don't seem to care. Mark

t-and-f: Re: t-and-f: Re: t-and-f: Re: altitude aid (was: El G's pace in Zürich

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:19:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Ed Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could debate endlessly how much, if any, effect on performance there is at this low altitude, but it would undoubtedly be small enough that unless someone attempted run a

Re: t-and-f: Linz GP top 3

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 1:01:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Dan Kaplan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Monday's Linz GP results 200-1, Shawn Crawford, United States, 20.46. 2, Kevin Little, United States, 20.57. 3, Jake Jenson, United States, 20.79. This is getting ridiculous.

t-and-f: party time!

http://www.review.com/college/rankingsparties.cfm?menuID=0search=1 for all kinds of college rankings, including the selection of Tennessee as the nation's No. 1 party school? (when are the nationals in Knoxville again?) gh

t-and-f: RE: I'm a hypoglycemic, hypochondriac, transsexual, transvestite from Transylvania

Malmo: Are you saying Suzy is doing The Time Warp? ...It's just a step to the left. -- Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 23:01:00 -0400 From: malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: I'm a hypoglycemic, hypochondriac, transsexual, transvestite from

Re: t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

Speaking of the uniforms. A lot of people critisized blue front/red back uniforms US athletes wore in Sydney because it was often difficult to tell runners apart because the color of the shirt would change once the camera angles change. I remember watching MJ running 400 and as the camera

t-and-f: interesting AOY slant

Coming out of Edmonton, I would say there were three decent candidates for men's Athlete Of The Year: Greene, Bucher and Zelezny. Loss in Zürich effectively takes Z-man out of the picture. Greene (ignoring the Prefontaine debacle) and Bucher both undefeated gold medalists, with significant

RE: t-and-f: Suzy's thoughts about Edmonton and the rest of the season

Cripes Randall, isn't it a bit arrogant to imply that North Americans are typically arrogant? Couldn't you just have asked for clarification? David Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Randall has made it clear many times before that Americans are: Cell phone talking ... fast food eatin' ... arrogant

t-and-f: WUG?

Any idea's on where to get start lists for the meet? I have a woman PV'er there and would like to find out who she is jumping against. Thanks, Rick Baggett

t-and-f: Paula Radcliffe's WC/OG races

Inspired by all the discussion about what Paula Radcliffe should/could have done differently to win a medal in Edmonton, I decided to go back over all her races in WC or OG competition. After running the 3000 at the '91 European Juniors and '92 World Juniors (4th both times), Radcliffe made her

Re: t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

Oleg Shpyrko wrote: But the same (even worse) thing happened in Edmonton - Kenya and Morocco had similarly designed uniforms - Kenyans red front/green back and Moroccans the other way around: green front/red back. So when they showed steeple it seemed like the green and red guys would switch

Re: t-and-f: Pre's education (was: How to train NOT to be able to kick and win races.!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps--I recall that Norpoth and Michel Jazy staged some epic tactical duels in European Cup competition, where team points were all that mattered. I think there was once a race where they ran close to 15:00, with the last 800 in about 1:52. I can't verify this, but my

t-and-f: USATF Release: Montgomery named Athlete of the Week

Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE August 21, 2001 Montgomery named USATF Athlete of the Week INDIANAPOLIS - Tim

Re: t-and-f: interesting AOY slant

As much as I am a sprint fan, I would think that the more distance oriented types would be more impressed with Bucher's sub 1:43's than with Mo's 9.90's and sub 9.90's ... Even though Mo's races are intrinsically better (#3 100 time vs #17 800 time for Bucher - still #1 vs moving to #5 for

t-and-f: Re: Olympian Herman Goffberg

(This is forwarded for Ed Grant) The death of Herman Goffberg recalls an interesting story about his qualification for the 1948 Olympic team. The 10K qualifying race that year was held as part of the National AAU meet in Milwaukee. This was done to allow the top

t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors. Reading the August TaFnews over the weekend and checking Zurich results online (almost at the same time), I noticed that Tim Montgomery had completed something close to this: Modesto?9.96? win other

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track Posts [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:59:16 -0400 This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors. Reading the August

Re: t-and-f: interesting AOY slant

In a message dated 8/21/01 3:17:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Greene (ignoring the Prefontaine debacle) and Bucher both undefeated gold medalists, with significant impact on the all-time list. Should be verry close. (note that 100 and 800 aren't GP events this year, so GP Final not an

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

Brian wrote: This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors. Reading the August TaFnews over the weekend and checking Zurich results online (almost at the same time), I noticed that Tim Montgomery had completed something close to this: Modesto? 9.96? win other meet

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 5:04:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is all off the top of my pointy head ... so forgive any errors. Reading the August TaFnews over the weekend and checking Zurich results online (almost at the same

t-and-f: FW: t-and-f: Re: altitude aid (was: El G's pace in Zürich

More to the point, there is an effect on distance races at 2100' altitude (Edmonton). The air pressure is only about 91% of the pressure at sea level (on average) which means the partial pressure of Oxygen is only 91% what it is at sea level. Air pressure/partial pressure of oxygen definitely

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

Kebba wrote: What about Boldon in 97 and Fredericks in 96. Ashford in '88, Lewis in '88 (i'm a Lewis fan so I understand Ben was dq'ed.. but it fits into the same mold). I believe Lewis was ranked #1 in 88 even with Ben's race as that was Ben's only race .. I could be wrong .. Guess I should

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

GH wrote: To save efforts for all those w/ pointy little heads, note that if you go to the Edmonton Preview section of the TFN website you can find complete seasonal records (pre-Edmonton) for all the leading contenders in all events. Here's the relevant Montgomery portion: 09.96w

RE: t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

These $100,000 uniforms sound like $500 hammers the military buys. Phil Pinkowsky -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim McLatchie Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 8:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: RE:

RE: t-and-f: Re: Olympian Herman Goffberg

Hi. Fred Finke Here. My volunteer assistant coach is the son of another big player that was in this race (and by the way the father (in his 80's) is still around and one of the greatest and most modest men I have ever known. In fact my HS team ran from his house for 10 years and he

t-and-f: lewis/ben

I believe Lewis was ranked #1 in 88 even with Ben's race as that was Ben's only race .. I could be wrong .. Guess I should go check .. But I thought Ben wasn't very highly ranked that year for some reason .. Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] They didn't consider his Oly race in the world rankings.

Re: t-and-f: lewis/ben

Kebba wrote: They didn't consider his Oly race in the world rankings. Not that they should have. but if they had Ben would've been number one most likely. Carl ran 9.96, 9.96, 9.78w at the trials (he became the first to ever go sub-10 in prelim rounds). He then ran a few 9.97's or so before

RE: t-and-f: Re: Olympian Herman Goffberg

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 6:37:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Fred Finke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I told you a couple of years ago that I ran a little ) His name? Quentin Brelsford, 1946 NCAA XC champion. also a decent track runner: 3rd in the NCAA mile as a soph (Ohio Wesleyan),

Re: t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

--- Alan Shank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We had the same problem in the stadium. There are so many countries competing now that there are bound to be a lot of similar uniforms. The challenge as I saw it was distinguishing countries with similar uniforms when the bib numbers covered the majority

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery comes to the fore

In a message dated Tue, 21 Aug 2001 6:01:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe Lewis was ranked #1 in 88 even with Ben's race as that was Ben's only race .. I could be wrong .. Guess I should go check . at the risk of flogging the TFN website twice in one

Re: t-and-f: FW: t-and-f: Re: altitude aid (was: El G's pace in Zürich

Apparently the low altitude of Edmonton hinders performance: Kenyan Champs-Nairobi 10,000 METERS EL: 1700m MEN 1 Charles Kamathi Police 27:47.33 2 John Korir AForces 27:49.34 3 Paul Kosgei Nairobi 27:51.87 Edmonton

Re: t-and-f: lewis/ben

In a message dated 8/21/01 7:12:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And the call of the race was one for the ages ... Simply wonderful I assume you're talking about the call by NBC's Charlie Jonesit was magnificent! Lots of bigwigs made it into the NBC booth for the Johnson-Lewis

RE: altitude (was: t-and-f: Let the USA bashing begin!

In a message dated Mon, 20 Aug 2001 2:09:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Rono DID run 13:20-some-odd-seconds in a driving blizzard in Pullman -- a feat which hasn't yet been matched. i know i've mentioned this on the list before, but i'm no longer impressed by

Re: t-and-f: lewis/ben

Walt wrote: I assume you're talking about the call by NBC's Charlie Jonesit was magnificent! Lots of bigwigs made it into the NBC booth for the Johnson-Lewis race that night. And the only other time I've felt such electricity in a stadium was last year, when Cathy Freeman won the 400.