t-and-f: 1st ever race

2001-02-13 Thread Tom Murrell
From: http://www.gomocs.com/news/trk/wtrk/2001/02/11/981941565240.html Also earning a first-place finish was Haugen Oddbjorg in the women's 3,000. Oddbjorg, a native of Ski, Norway, and a member of the soccer team, was running in her first collegiate race. Women's 3,000 Meter Run

t-and-f: Selected results from Germany

2001-02-13 Thread Winfried Kramer
Siegen, 9 Feb HJ: Buss 2.30, J.Janku CZE 2.27 wHJ: Herzenberg 1.94 Berlin, 10 Feb w400m: Marx 52.84, Ahrens 53.36 wTJ: Herschmann 13.91 Frankfurt, 10/11 Feb Hept: Drews 6029 wPent: Ertl 4485 Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field

t-and-f: Latest High School lists

2001-02-13 Thread JISpier
The latest US High School lists (top 5 or so) have been posted at: www.nationalscholastic.org Jim Spier

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread David Sobal
simple solutions then would be: 1) have the pacers continue jogging (or walking even) in the outside lane until she is finished, at which time they could "race" to their finish of the 5k 2) have the pacers continue running behind her, but fast enough that they do not get lapped

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
simple solutions then would be: 1) have the pacers continue jogging (or walking even) in the outside lane until she is finished, at which time they could "race" to their finish of the 5k 2) have the pacers continue running behind her, but fast enough that they do not get lapped Neither

t-and-f: Armory stunner

2001-02-13 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: What happened in the girls' 800M run at the Varsity Classic last night at the New York Armory Cehnter (see tjheir website for full results) will be talked about for years by those privileged to see it. The Classic is not exactly the kind of meet where such gems are usually to

Re: t-and-f: Police Beat - Michael Bennett

2001-02-13 Thread B. Kunnath
Bob Bettwy writes: See that, the kid runs 10.18 for 100m, makes the NCAA semi-final (fastest non-qualifier ever) and they only mention his football exploits :( probably best for t-and-f that his running career was'nt mentioned in this instance dont you think? Bob

t-and-f: Police Beat - Michael Bennett

2001-02-13 Thread Bettwy, Bob
Wisconsin's Michael Bennett arrested MADISON, Wis. (AP) - Michael Bennett, one of the nation's best running backs last season, was arrested at his apartment building early Monday after knocking in a woman's door, police said. The former Wisconsin player was being held on three charges, including

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread Adam G Beaver
It seems to me that all these special conditions for Runyan's race are not only illegal, but also absurd and detrimental to the sport. How can an athlete specify that he or she wants to run a race alone because he or she is more comfortable without other runners "interfering"? Isn't this what

t-and-f: Elizabeth Zaragoza

2001-02-13 Thread Winfried Kramer
Dear netters, El Salvador middle distance runner Liz Zaragoza claims a 800m of of 2:09.52 when she was 4th at Fresno, 15 April 1996. Is someone in the position to confirm that mark? Thank you. Winfried Kramer Kohlrodweg 12 66539 Neunkirchen/Germany Association of Track Field Statisticians

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread GHTFNedit
In a message dated Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:31:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Adam G Beaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why would anyone agree to arrange such a race for Runyan? Why would Runyan think that obtaining a particular time justify betraying the purpose of athletics? And should anyone care

t-and-f: Long Beach Relays

2001-02-13 Thread Doug Lynch
Entries for the 2001 Jack Rose Long Beach Relays at at the bottom of http://www.lynxphotos.com Doug Lynch Sports Timing www.Lynxphotos.com

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
Nobody detests rabbited races more than I, but in this situation i suspect there's a certain element of (misguided) "humanitarian concern," relative to Runyan's blindness. gh I suspect that gh may be right, in which case this is the same BS as the Casey Martin situation in golf. I can

Re: t-and-f: Everything you need to know is on the Discovery channel

2001-02-13 Thread sean other
Don't stop stretching. Just learn how to stretch properly. --- malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we're arguing the same point. A lion (or any preditor, for that matter) stretches for JUST A MOMENT -- no more. Humans, on the other hand, stretch for no reason at all, and use all

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread philip_ponebshek
I understand all the concerns below - but any sanctioning body would do well to wait out the Casey Martin verdict from the Supreme Court before stepping in and inviting a host of lawyers by refusing Marla her record, if she sets one. After all, the Supremes DO seem to be partial toward the

RE: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
When the "outcome" of the race is a forgone conclusion the predetermined winner is allowed to focus only on the time and the even pacing that usually yields the fastest time for a given athlete. This is clearly an advantage, and from what the press release said is clearly what they were planning

t-and-f: Re: Runyan's 5k

2001-02-13 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 2/13/1 12:55:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: n a message dated Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:31:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Adam G Beaver" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why would anyone agree to arrange such a race for Runyan? Why would Runyan think that obtaining a particular time

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread WMurphy25
In a message dated 2/13/01 5:36:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nobody detests rabbited races more than I, but in this situation i suspect there's a certain element of (misguided) "humanitarian concern," relative to Runyan's blindness. gh I suspect that gh may be right, in which

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread Ed Dana Parrot
I understand all the concerns below - but any sanctioning body would do well to wait out the Casey Martin verdict from the Supreme Court before stepping in and inviting a host of lawyers by refusing Marla her record, if she sets one. A big piece of the Casey Martin case rests on the

t-and-f: Tampere

2001-02-13 Thread Kebba Tolbert
Finnish unless stated MEN 60 m: 1) Leonard Myles-Mills Ghana 6,64, 2) Patrik Lövgren Sweden 6,74, 3) Christopher Williams Jamaica 6,76 100 m: 1) Christopher Williams 10,34, 2) Leonard Myles-Mills10,46, 3) Kostjantin Rurak Ukraine 10,53 800 m: 1) Dmitri Bogdanov Venäjä 1.46,45 3000 m: 1) Kent

t-and-f: here's a wild thought...

2001-02-13 Thread GHTFNedit
Instead of romping in the Junior XC race, as everybody expects he will, Dathan Ritzenhein should get a measure of just how good he is by running one of the Senior races this weekend. SHould he run the 4K or the 12K? gh

t-and-f: Re: Four minute mile

2001-02-13 Thread CHRIS KUYKENDALL
P. N. Heidenstrom, February 2: A question has been asked here about the first AUTHENTICATED appearance of the term, "four-minute mile". Lawson Robertson uses the term in an article published in July 1937, but someone must be able to do better than that. Any takers? Robertson goes to

Fw: t-and-f: indoor 4x400 zone measurement?

2001-02-13 Thread Floyd Highfill
Unless this is a trick question, it's 20 meters (65' 7-1/2"). Even if it is a trick question it's 20 meters. Floyd Highfill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:54 PM Subject: t-and-f:

Re: t-and-f: Will this race be valid for record ratification?

2001-02-13 Thread Tim Willis
Everyone: Thanks to Walt Murphy for setting things straight for all of us. First and most importantly, there has been no clear evidence that Marla Runyan or her camp have ask for any special treatment. If there has been any publishing of that fact, I missed it. Facts such as that are a

t-and-f: NCAA rabbits?

2001-02-13 Thread hndrsnr
I have a question for the members of the list -- taken from an actual occurrence from this past weekend. Runner A and Runner B are teammates at a particular school. Runner A is hoping for a fast time in a particular distance race. They both are entered. After the gun goes off, Runner B just

Re: t-and-f: NCAA rabbits?

2001-02-13 Thread Andy Ames
Unless the NCAA rule book has been changed since I bought one for Bob Parks' Theory of Track and Field class in 1995, there are no rules regarding athletes being paced by lapped runners. Incidentally, thiswas one of the most informative classes I took at Eastern, taught by arecentNational Track

t-and-f: National Depth--Sprints

2001-02-13 Thread Roger Ruth
Some subscribers will recognize that this is the third year I've posted these summaries of national representation in the top 100 of each event. My original purpose was only curiosity in trying to identify "centers of coaching excellence" that might be reflected in disproportionate national

Re: t-and-f: High Schools Distance Medley?

2001-02-13 Thread Mike Trujillo
Could someone tell me what states run the Distance Medley Relay as one of their state meet events? Iowa. The boys run a 1200-400-800-1600. The girls run what used to be called the "mile medley" but they now call it the distance medley. It's not. It's sprint medley, although none of the