Check out bittersweet profile of Tommie Smith by LA Times writer Bill Plashcke, which
suggests he won't get anywhere near his requested $50,000 for 1968 medal but wants to
start a youth foundation with the money. I'm still hoping Tommie comes out for masters
track, as he's intimated in the
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maybe UO's concern was the suggestion on the list that
a particular list member should be taken out and
beaten to a pulp. If that was the reason for
reprimanding the list, I agree wholeheartedly.
Sean
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bravoright onwhy can't everyone else see that it was a similiar
thing that created the tennessee state dynasty in women's track in the late
50's-60's...culimnating in wilma rudolph's 3 gold medal victory in rome and
wyomia tyus' first back to back 100 meter gold medal
RE: Soccer.
Soccer is much more technical than distance running. You need access to good
coaching, facilities, etc., whereas with distance running the overall
approach is much more simple.
Additionally - in my opinion soccer is much more competitive sport
throughout the world. Soccer is #1 sport
Hi All,
Here's an idea that's a lot better than the one I floated about track
pursuit races :-)
To qualify for the U.S. National Meet, let's switch to a system of open,
regional qualifying meets, similar but not quite the same as what the NCAA
is doing. I envision an 'A' standard right at the
So why so many great soccer players from Western Africa?
On Tue, 1 May 2001, Oleg Shpyrko wrote:
RE: Soccer.
Soccer is much more technical than distance running. You need access to good
coaching, facilities, etc., whereas with distance running the overall
approach is much more simple.
Perhaps it would create more interest if he called himself C.D.
(What did you expect, I'm an accountant.)
Ed Koch
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Netters:
It was nice to see Jim Manno win the race. Jim lives in the next town over from me and
has been racing mastersfor at least a quarter century. He also gives something back to
the sport by serving as meet director of the USATF-NJ Indoor Masters Championship each
year.
Ed Koch
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Oleg:
Although you are correct that Europe is a melting pot, there are still
some very distinct genetic populations. Finns and Basques are quite
genetically distinct from the rest of Europe and from each other. So are
sections of Eurasia, from Bulgaria through Turkey and parts of Mongolia. No
I still can't understand what motivated Rodgers, Flemming, Meyer, Hodge
and others 20 years ago when
all the road races offered was asphalt and adrenaline.
I can't say what motivated Fleming and Hodge, but in 1981-1982, the
financial rewards for the other two were WAY OVER $100,000 a year.
I personally try to continue to follow soccer, which I admit is not easy
living in the US, but I honestly couldn't name a single west african
soccer player. Can you?
From FIFA world ranking - top african countries:
22. South Africa
30. Morocco
32. Tunisia
34. Egypt
Not a single west-african
Physiological studies show that one
needs to draw on your aerobic energy reserves after about 45 seconds or
so.
So you need your Anaerobic energy for about 1:00 right? I would think that
in just about any race you would need to draw on your aerobic reserves at
some point in time. I would
...than 60 percent of all top distance
races, from the 800 meters to the marathon.
The 800m is not a distance race...repeat, the 800m is not a distance race.
Most if not all 800m runners can be/are great 400m runners. In the 800m you
see African Americans excel: Johnny Gray, South Americans
Buck
Regionals already exist in the USATF system and culminate with the USATF
Club Championships in Indianpolis in July. This was setup to afford a
National level meet for emerging elites. It is also a step towards
rebuilding the club system to some extent. Check the USATF website for
details
Oleg,
West African national teams may not do that great, again because of
mismanagement, poor coaching and facilities and the lack of funds, but look
at many European league teams and see how many players are from West and
Southern Africa. And not just in Europe but in Mexico and South America
Randall and others,
An interesting book to look at is non other than list member John Bale's
excellent work (with Joe Sang), Kenyan Running which looks a lot at the
colonial heritage of sport in Kenya and the types of sport that were
introduced. Remember that kenya was not simply a resource
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:29:02 -0700
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Subject: t-and-f: Follow the money?
Kenyans and other East Africans win more than 60 percent of all top distance
races, from the 800 meters to the marathon. Most of the wins paid very
little if anything. In many races won
So why so many great soccer players from Western Africa?
I don't know about soccer players but I wonder if Jon has come up with a child
slavery gene for soccer players from West Africa?
Steve S.
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i am looking for a half marathon or any run I could do in italy between may
22 and june 20. do you know of any or know a connection in italy i could ask.
Garry wrote,
What really bothers me is that I'm having trouble believing that the
rather tame original post and the few bits of thread that were allowed to
follow it were enough to set off alarm bells in the halls of Duckademia.
Rather, it seems obvious to me that some list member(s) must have
From: Oleg Shpyrko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Economical reasons.
Would there be more american champions
if winning a major marathon by a US runner was worth $10, 20 million?
My first thought was if that happened I would live in a box and run 200
miles a week right now. Now, why don't I just go
Alan, I think you just proved Jon Entine's point. Yes, virtually all
the slave trade was between West Africa and the New World as it would
have been way too expensive and time consuming in those days to sail
all the way around the tip of Africa. At the present time, despite
their extremely
H...I never thought of that. That's a very interesting point. The big
marathons pay big appearance fees to a fleet of Joe-Kenyans so a fleet of
Joe-Kenyans sweep the medal stand. Meanwhile an equally talented
Joe-American gets no appearance fee and fights just for a free entry into
the
Alan:
Here's a suggestion Alan. Read Bengt Saltin's cover story in last
September's Scientific American, Muscles and Genes. It's a good primer on
how different muscle fibers work. If you want to read more scientific
articles, Taboo has a great bibliography with most of the key research on
such
Alan:
You could say all you want that the 800 meters is not a distance event, but
this is a matter of climes, not boxes. Physiological studies show that one
needs to draw on your aerobic energy reserves after about 45 seconds or so.
That makes 800 meters very much a distance race. The anatomical
Sigh...I'm not trying to convince you or anyone of anything other than than
this is an intriguing issue and has implications far beyond the world of
sports (it's the essence of what the Human Genome Project is about --
finding the genetic influence on phenotypes).
If I haven't convinced you of
Buck's suggestions are not new, and as a matter of fact, new USATF president
Bill Roe has been talking about something like this for years. I happen to
think it is a great idea and it would solve quite a number of problems
facing the spotr. Realitsically, though, it is unlikely to happen.
The
Do you really follow soccer Oleg? Almost all of the great West African
soccer players have fled their countries to play for the great European
teams. Twenty percent of the British premiership is of West African
ancestry. Get a grip and study up.
On 5/1/01 5:42 PM, t-and-f-digest [EMAIL
Buck wrote:
Here's an idea that's a lot better than the one I floated about track
pursuit races :-)
To qualify for the U.S. National Meet, let's switch to a system of open,
regional qualifying meets, similar but not quite the same as what the NCAA
is doing. I envision an 'A' standard right at
Alan:
Individual Kenyans get the appearance fees because they have proven in prior
races that they are likely to do very well. Americans do not get them
because they are not nearly as competitive. Race directors would love
nothing more than to promote American runners -- just a few years ago,
Jon Entine:
Do you really follow soccer Oleg? Almost all of the great West African
soccer players have fled their countries to play for the great European
teams. Twenty percent of the British premiership is of West African
ancestry. Get a grip and study up.
Well, like I said, I am not a
Y ask Y:
For the five or six people left on the List who haven't fallen on their
swords or threatened to do so:
ABC's Wide World of Sports had a two-hour special Sunday celebrating its
40th anniversary. Track was featured in all of 2.5 minutes, including the
opening shot of Jim McKay on
Those who are convinced that 800m is a slow-twitch fiber event, let's
go one step further. A fact that is often overlooked by many people is that
kenyans actually make fairly decent 400m runners. There has been quite
a few kenyans who have been ranked in top 10 in that event - and overall
kenyans
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