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From: "tborish" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:26 AM
Subject: t-and-f: Jon Drummond on Jim Rome today
Clones,
Jon Drummond will be a guest on the Jim Rome radio
Out of curiosity .. Has anyone ever tracked what type of medal predictor the
Zurich meet is for Olympic and World Championship competitions ??? Since the
Zurich fields tend to be so "lousy", they may give some indication of
championships success ..
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as he did in the
200 .. I would think that most countries would be happy to have Lewis,
MOntgomery and Williams as their top 3 let alone second eschelon ..
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Each morning in Australia, a kangaroo wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the slowest Dingo or it will
willing to bet that therte are many on this list who will be
more than happy to remind YOU of the post at the appropriate time ..
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Each morning in Australia, a kangaroo wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the slowest Dingo or it will be killed. Every morning a Dingo
them.
Then, as my grandmother used to say "you would argue with a stop sign" ...
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Each morning in Australia, a kangaroo wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the slowest Dingo or it will be killed. Every morning a Dingo wakes up.
It knows it m
al treatment (even if they are Americans) .. If we want the
"best" there then let's get on about doing that and get all the best there -
not just a chosen few ..
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Sen
h the fans is that
they are looking for more to be going on (as was described in the earlier
post on the European meet) to get excited about ...
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guessing that he probably has been back in a strength training mode and is
now trying to get speed in and get sharp .. Just a guess .. And I have to
agree with the half hearted efforts ...
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ly because of Dever's races this year) is the 100H ..
But only because Devers is more concentrated on it this year and seems to
have her speed under control .. But I think WRs are going to become more and
more of a rarity ..
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what marks they have to aim at .. And we all
should be happy to witness top class competition - which occurs no matter
what the records are ...
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eding
them .. I think too often we transfer our need to know the minutiae of the
sport along to Mr Public who just wants to know if he is watching quality
competition .. And his only benchmark is records (since he isn't paying as
close attention as he would to say baseball or football) ..
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Looks like Ottey is bound and
determined to run her way into the starting blocks for the Olympic 100 meters
!
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any club holding WR in the auto timed era ..
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and
the race will make for great theater ...
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: re: Time to start talking about the games !!
Geez! One post, and I get all
or Pettigrew aren't capable .. They just
haven't shown it these past few weeks .. Hopefully they are getting ready to
peak ..
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to imagine that if he
isn't the one he would have to be close and that is Carl Lewis .. Just his
TFN covers should put him close .. And I know he was on covers of magazines
all over the world .. And had about 15 years to amass a total ..
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of urgency in beating Michael around that turn ..
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.. And apparently MJ is afraid to do THAT .. Enough said
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or not he will ever run it
again .. So why bother ..
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Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:06 AM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Why is Mike so Afraid?
In a message dated 7/26/2000 9:58:38 AM
.. He has forgotten
the essence of the sport, not commercials, records, rankings, or celebrity
but COMPETITION .. And unfortunately in the process, it appears that he has
forgotten what it takes to be a true Champion ..
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there has been enough money that bragging rights and honor and
just maintaining being #1 can still hold the place is SHOULD in the sport ..
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Exactly .. And why is it so hard for people to admit that he is indeed human
??
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Subject: Re: t-and-f: Micheal Johnson
So what
insult me with terms like dumb, or ignorant .. AS my posts has given no
indication of either .. Simply because we have a difference of opinion does
not make either of us less intelligent
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rrently has him rated #7 .. To
speculate on his injuries and mental state of mind is moot .. That's how he
has done .. That is how it is recorded .. And when they start putting
medical bylines in results let me know ..
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was this year ...
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or 4 years !!!!
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though
he continues to hold that distinction in the 400 meters ..
Can we say that adequately
describes both MJs past, his present, and how he will be looked upon in the
future ????
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Then the question still stands .. Whom do you consider to be the Better
performer in the Long Jump Carl Lewis or Mike Powell ?
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wered what were their PRs
substantially .. Therefore not having had that opportunity do we
non-the-less rank present day athletes higher simply because the opportunity
exists ??
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and Tommie Smith ?? And out of curiosity, where would you place Mr. Mennea
historically with respect to other sprinting greats ?? I don't mean to pick
on Pietro, its just that he was the previous 200 WR holder ..
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Angelo Taylor
4x4 - Women
1) Jearl Miles Clark - America's
most consistent quarter miler
2) Michelle Collins - Sub 49 at
Penn
3) LaTasha Colander Richardson -
America's latest sub 50 open runner
4) Marion Jones - The most
potential in the 400 since Gwen Torrence
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or
Mike Powell .. Powell does hold the WR ...
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Well im
Not to start a heated discussion here, but .. Carl actually won his second
gold in the drug lab and not on the track .. Does that not carry an asterisk
so to speak and have we yet to see someone actually win two Olympic 100
meter races ??
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where there is no
representation .. No one in the women's 100 .. only 1 each in the women's
200 and 400 .. This from the country that along with the US defined women's
sprinting through the 80s and early 90s ... What has happened to the German
track and field machine ??
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we spend so many days holding the Trials (8 compared to say 3 - 10 including
the rest day) .. Is this deemed to be an advantage in terms of approximating
the Olympics schedule ?? And do we force our athletes to try to peak too
soon before the games ??
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Each morning
collegiate record .. NCAA champion
and Olympic Trials champion .. What more do you want from the kid ??
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Each morning in Australia, a kangaroo wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the slowest Dingo or it will be killed. Every morning a Dingo wakes up.
It knows it must
MONTGOMERY, Tim USA q 10.21
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6 307 WILLIAMS, Bernard USA 10.24
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7 310 DOBOS, Gabor HUN 10.39
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8 293 DUBOIS, Daniel SUI 10.48
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Each morning in Australia, a kangaroo wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the slowest Dingo
11.16
Sevatheda Fynes 11.18
Chandra Sturrup 11.21
Chryste Gaines11.32
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Each morning in Australia, a kangaroo wakes up. It knows it must run faster
than the slowest Dingo or it will be killed. Every morning a Dingo wakes up.
It knows
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Each morning in America a record setting sprinter wakes up. He knows that he
must finish in the top 3 at the Olympic Trials or he does not go to the
games. And each morning in America a sprinter who barely made the Trials
qualifying standard wakes up. he knows
http://www.iaaf.org/Results/index.asp?Filename=/Results/Rankings/index.html
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Each morning in America a record setting sprinter wakes up. He knows that he
must finish in the top 3 at the Olympic Trials or he does not go to the
games. And each morning in America
far, 15% have voted for Frankie Fredericks, NAM
So far, 21% have voted for Maurice Greene, USA
So far, 29% have voted for Bruny Surin, CAN
So far, 4% have voted for Other
I guess nationalism can sometimes cloud one's vision ..
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McTear pulled a hamstring at the end of the 100 final in the trials, so had
no recourse but to give up his spot at it was a pretty serious injury ..
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Is the list down ??
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outside of track and field .. And right now Woods is the King of media .. IF
he wasn't before he definitely is after yesterday's performance ..
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and
ready to run .. Guevara that her altitude time was no fluke .. Colander
Richardson that she too belongs ... Miller that her last two races show that
she is indeed on track ... And Ottey that she still has it at 40 Should
be some great racing in Brussels ..
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100 - Greene / Boldon / Bailey (and not necessarily 1-2-3 in the race)
200 - Capel / Obikwelu / Boldon
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The Berlin web site doesn't seem to have a listing of entries on it .. Does
anyone have a site or information on who is scheduled to compete in Berlin
??
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A US team won the 4x1 at Gateshead in a nice 37.95 .. Does anyone know who
the personnel was on that team ??
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1 913 USA I, USA MR 37.65
2 915 USA II, USA 38.18
3 912 MIXED TEAM, 38.68
4 916 POLSKI ZWIAZEK LEKKIEJ ATLETYK, POL 38.98
5 914 DLV, GER 39.09
6 918 USA III, USA 39.80
7 917 LG NIKE BERLIN, GER 40.90
Results from Berlin meet website :www.istaf-berlin.de
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of what to
expect from performances in Sydney .. Or how to define outstanding ones ..
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if the
weather is not advantageous .. So does anyone know what the weather is
expected to be ??
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FloJo's 88 season as
"predictable and within the norms of world class sprinting" ??
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ses his re-entry peepers - they were to keep him from blinding
himself upon re-entry from his sprint .. Now that is trash talking !!!!
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"Dan Kaplan" said:
However, most of those people keeping the US off the top level of the
podium are of Jamaican birth, so it's still pretty much a case of a large
talent pool delivering the top individuals.
Don't say that too loudly you might start the gene talk again ... :o)
C
. Gabriela Szabo
2. Gete Wami
3. Fernanda Ribiero
Szabo and Wami wage war and clearly outrun the field .. Szabo runs on
superior speed outkicking her over the final lap .. Ribiero gets bronze in
close finish over O"Sullivan ..
Any of this make sense coming from a sprint fan ??
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will not produce
medals this time around ..
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of pulling something like
that off ??
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Did they not see the US run 37.95 and 37.65 in
Europe ?? I know they were in the first and should have had a birds eye view ..
Of course they were a ways behind ..
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the public .. And is it just me or does the media
seem determined to turn this into the Drug Games ??
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nd whatever the reason, we have to do a better job of
translating that information to a not so dumb Joe Sixpack ..
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until a week from Friday
when Track and Field actually starts ??
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"training runs" or serious racing for someone at this level ??
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e telecast is "not about
results". How depressing.
As equally depressing was the article in Sports Illustrated on drug testing
and the "war" that they are waging against the athletes and how they are
going to win ..
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helpful ..
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ght help remove some of the constipation
from our Olympic viewing ..
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s - Coe, Mennea, Viren et al .. The
one thing that has been constant is that usually when there are reports of
this nature, the athlete in question has performed extremely well at the
games .. So whatever Greene "really" ran I would say this bodes well for his
Olympic experience ..
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ot; system is in sync ..
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Every time one of those segments
came on she kept asking "why do they have to keep showing these things, why
can't we watch them perform and find out about whoever wins ??" ..
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, and then have to wait all day AND night to actually see
the race .. Isn;t modern technology wonderful ?!?!?!?
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a tape of
the games that can be purchased later ?? Or should I spend countless hours
trying to put together my own ??
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aving to come back and run a quality 400 leg against the Russians
and I would think Marion's task just got harder not easier ..
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mpics."
Apparently Alexander Bagach has met the same fate .. Although he tested
positive on Feb 12 Not sure what took that so long .. Story here:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/463068.asp
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didn't happen (except for
Carl's 4 golds of course) ..
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ich case you open up for controversy .. And
Marion only runs for 4 golds .. Then Larry Black would not have run in 72 ..
Nor Millard Hampton in 76 .. But then Carl Lewis would not have been a
question in 96 .. Which is preferable ??
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he outcome of the race ..
Did I miss anything ??
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greed .. I fully believe that the incident DIDN'T happen .. And I too have
"guessed" at one of the posters .. However knowing that you have a reliable
source is much better than hoping you have a reliable source ..
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from the talk here
on the list that most of the individuals here would concur with most of his
feelings on the subject of drugs and the sport ..
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.. But now that I think about it I missed a
natural .. How her injury compares with the injuries of MJ and Mo from the
trials .. And did the lack of trash talking between the trials and games
have anything to do with her subsequent injury ..
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at altitude .. So Inger was/is definitely in the ball park for
an "upset" of Marion in the 200 ..
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that might be the 4x4's best shot at the gold .. And perhaps Marion
at 5 - totally dependent in reality on how she fares in the LJ ..
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will have to wait to see if it actually materializes .. But
it is possible ..
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a great combo of speed,
experience and strength. The USA should be fighting for 1st at this point.
MJ anchors. She fast, strong, aggresive, and has a lot of attitude.
Fatigued
or not, MJ brings her 2000 Games to a fitting conclusion.
Conway?
Long day .. Sorry for the delayed response .. I think
at the trials .. Shot
putters definitely dropped .. Men's 800 runners disappeared .. Women's 400
runners disappeared .. Alvin Harrison seems to be way above .. While we may
bring home a lot of medals, it seems we may be carried by just a few ..
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Now that Maurice has won an Olympic gold to add to his 2 WC golds and his
WR, where do people see him in relation to the top sprinters of all time ??
How does he compare to say Hayes and Lewis and Bailey and Christie and
Borzov and Hines and the like ??
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about it so far
(can find no one on the news mentioning it) does anyone know the validity of
the story / test ??
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(not saying I agree with that) .. It did seem extremely hypocritical
..
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hing staff on this one .. Perhaps draw
from the 400 hurdles ???
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or to Gail! She defended all this to
her
co-commentators as being "serious business."
What will we do when we don't have CL to kick around anymore?
I used to cringe listening to OJ Simpson doing the Olympics .. Now he
doesn't look so bad .. :o(
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h 44 that was a gift) .. And in the
final he ran the SLOWEST of the 4 US legs .. He got the gold and the WR in
the event on the backs of the others .. Yes he was awesome in Atlanta .. And
yes he repeated in the 400 this week .. But Barcelona is something he should
try to forget not try to re-write ..
- 20.49
Heat 9 - da Silva 20.70 (Claudinei)
Looks like da Silva and Obikwelu decided to put their eggs in the 200 basket
.. I guess gold didn't look possible there .. Good opening round times all
around ..
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Out of town and away from computer all day ... What do you make of the men's
200 ?? Am trying to wait til I SEE it to start making comments .. And did
you see Devers race last night .. Surprised there are no posts talking about
her "muscle pull" .. That was the lamest thing I ever saw
never saw
.. Sort of puts the capper on NBC's coverage ..
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s
.. Capel believes .. And coming down the stretch in the 200 final Kenteris
believed .. Everyone else was guessing or hoping .. And it showed ..
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are conducted according to the rules and
that all competitors have equal opportunity ..
Just goes to show that for all his prancing attitude and his flashy prelim
times, he's a novice. I didn't see in him the will-to-win which Conway
rightly identified as Greene's great strength. I saw a preening
he starter clearly did not set
the field properly ..
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t fell short
?? Just an observation and a question .. If I am way out there some one
please tell me ..
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mpics seemed much less like the Olympics than ever before .. And
that we may have to begin to look at them in a different light .. And maybe,
just maybe, they aren't the end all any more .. At least that seems to be
what the ATHLETES are now saying ..
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.8x man in addition to the 200 that he might never have run the 400 either
.. It's just not typically the race of choice ..
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.. But in the case of the American women's track and field
team it seems to go way beyond virus as almost the entire team performed at
a sub par level .. And that is very odd ..
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