Re: t-and-f: Be Seated

In a message dated 7/27/00 07:58:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: o my gosh...that's got to be the stupidist thing i've heard oftrack policelike we are a sport that needs them...hello...you have got to be kidding.. For those of you (are there any?) who enjoyed TFN's web

Re: t-and-f: what if

In a message dated 7/27/00 00:43:07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: POLE VAULT FOR DISTANCE (AAU) 189327-5A.H. Green (Chicago AA) 1894-1905 Not Held 190627-1.5 Martin Sheridan (IAAC) 190728-0Martin Sheridan (IAAC) 190826-9.5 W.A. McLeod (Irish AAC) 190927-10

Re: t-and-f: what if

In a message dated 7/27/00 08:30:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hereby declare Jeff Chase with the #1 ranking for the year 2000!!! in the vault or long jump? :-) gh

Re: FW: t-and-f: Final Thoughts on MJ

In a message dated 7/27/00 10:10:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless I have incorrect results for the men's LJ and TJ, Walter Davis will be doing 2 events. Are there 2 Walter Davis'? By the way, there are 6 women who qualified in more than one event (excepting relays). have seen a quote

Re: t-and-f: Sac OT Notes

In a message dated 7/27/00 21:47:55, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 21. Could a Sac local also please tell me where I could have gotten a decent meal after 10 p.m. (and I’m not counting Dennys’, Eppie’s, or Coco’s)? Pizza by the Slice rocked, but I almost ODed on the place due to lack of

Fwd: Re: t-and-f: greatest of all time

In a message dated 7/31/00 20:52:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mennea deserves his place in history as one of the all-time greats, but there are some who saw his 19.72 in Mexico City who swear that he ran well outside his lane for at least a couple of strides. obviously one of his

Re: t-and-f: Leave Dwight alone! (was NBC monopoly)

In a message dated 8/2/00 18:08:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One rule that I would make- one corporate parent cannot monopolize two or more of the 'rights modes' as outlined above. In other words, NBC can't buy the over-the-air broadcast rights AND the webcast broadcast rights and then turn

Re: t-and-f: Missing in Action

In a message dated 8/3/00 07:33:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Given that we are virtually weeks away from the games, has anyone heard or know anything about any of the following who could be factors at the games ?? Irina Privalova Privalova has been reincarnated as 54.21 winner of Russian

Re: t-and-f: EPO Testing

In a message dated 8/3/00 10:03:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So it's probably only a very slim crack in the armor of EPO testing, but I thought I would mention it. well thanks a whole hell of a lot Jason--can I now change my earlier quote to "the Olympics will be 99.99% drug free"?

Re: t-and-f: British television figures

In a message dated 8/3/00 10:36:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's weird for us Europeans to see our coverage held up as some sort of panacea, since most of us think it's largely crap, for the same reasons you criticise NBC. My take is that a hard-core fan of any sport is rarely pleased with

t-and-f: Re: wind conversions (was DN Galan)

In a message dated 8/2/00 09:12:04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I at first did a double-take when I saw that 10.68 clocking. However, Jonas' calculator translates that into a 10.80 plain-vanilla reading. Still a superb time, of course, but not quite so jaw-dropping, and puts things in better

Re: t-and-f: Poor Chen - out

In a message dated 8/3/00 20:51:19, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, this is a decision that is not surprising to me having had conversations with another former successful Chinese athlete. It was indicated that the "Chinese Federation" was very unhappy with Yueling's decision to come

Re: t-and-f: lane usage at Sacto?

In a message dated 8/4/00 10:15:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So here is what I don't understand. they apparently don't use lane's 1 2 in the 200m and 400IH because it may not be fair to some runners, or maybe there weren't enough entries, so they left the toughest lanes out. Ok, I can buy

Re: t-and-f: lane usage at Sacto?

In a message dated 8/4/00 11:39:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Furthermore, isn't Sacto a full 9 lane track? That's what it appeared to be on TV, at least. Is there a rule prohibiting using more than 8 lanes on the turn (i.e. running people outside of lane 8)? site lines ruled out the use

Re: FW: t-and-f: lane usage at Sacto?

In a message dated 8/4/00 12:24:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The only way to make all lanes essentially(!) equivalent is to start 200's such that all competitors run an entire turn (i.e., start the races so that all runners start on the straight). This, of course, would require moving the

t-and-f: looks like Zürich will really suck again

List of participants (from the LCZ website) (as of August 4th) 100m Men Boldon Ato TRI Brokenburr Kenneth USA Drummond Jon USA Dubois Daniel

Re: t-and-f: Kathy Jager's bumpy ride to reinstatement

In a message dated 8/7/00 11:42:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, we have to ask how do we balance the objectives of masters competition, and how they differ from elite competition, with the benefits and risks of drug usage. For masters women, the benefits of hormone replacement are

Re: Piling on (was Re: t-and-f: Michael Johnson)

In a message dated 8/9/00 10:57:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Show me that I'm wrong. Who are the exceptions that have won medals at the highest level? I refuse to talk about times run at non-tested meets in the USA. i can't be sure, but I'd guess that U.S. athletes are tested as much

Re: t-and-f: Another kick at the Trials-selection horse

In a message dated 8/11/00 10:23:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact that there are complications and difficulties to be overcome is not a reason for maintaining a flawed system. If you refuse to accept that any system can be perfect, which is fair enough, let's at least aim for the

t-and-f: golden league down to 6

a six-pack left for the big bucks after Z: Mo, El G, Nelson, Marion, Gail, Hattestad gh

Re: t-and-f: O'Sullivan back on track

In a message dated 8/11/00 21:16:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] quoted Peter Byrne from the Irish Times: It was a race which held a capacity crowd captive from the start, and the quality was indicated in the fact that three of the athletes who finished behind the top two set national records. With

Re: t-and-f: FWD: The system, Not an answer.

In a message dated 8/11/00 22:31:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, let's use a computer to select Olympic teams. Yeah, that's the ticket, let's use the same IAAF computer with its "defined criteria" that ranks (200 meters) Jon Drummond, Kevin Little, Ramon Clay, and Kenny Brokenburr all

t-and-f: Re: Canadian results problem

In a message dated 8/12/00 17:02:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Doesn't athletics canada undertstand what a web site is for? No results from yesterday's Olympic Trials are on the site...nor today! Hey, it's tough to find a reliable dogsled team to mush through the snowdrifts at this time of

Re: (long) t-and-f: FWD: The system, Not an answer.

In a message dated 8/12/00 10:26:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course, a big part of the TFN persona is built around their annual rankings- they have grown over many years to become a part of everything from shoe company bonuses to appearance fees. Mostly because nobody until now has

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Schedule

In a message dated 8/15/00 08:21:56, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does this make any sense? When was the track competition ever right after the opening ceremonies? In every Olympic games that I can recall the swimming competition dominates the first week and the track program doesn't even start

Re: t-and-f: FWD: The system, Not an answer.

In a message dated 8/14/00 22:34:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who can't just beat any whom for the victory to be important. It's gotta be a whom with an impressive PR. Or a who who's beat other whom's who had impressive PRs. There's plenty of whoms that get beat all the time- victories over

Re: t-and-f: IAAF rule out wild cards

In a message dated 8/16/00 02:54:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The IAAF has ruled out the possibility of wild card invitations to allow sprinters Maurice Greene and Michael Johnson to compete in the 200 metres at this year's Olympics. just remember: you heard it here first, days ago. gh

Fwd: t-and-f: Another Olympic TV option NOW AVAILABLE (sorry Dwight!)

In a message dated 8/21/00 19:23:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You should all move up here to sunny Ann Arbor and catch CBC on regular old cable ;-) isn't "sunny Ann Arbor" an oxymoron in the class of "crime-free Manhattan" ? :-)

Re: t-and-f: Extracts from Ottey ruling (was IAAF inconsistencies)

In a message dated 8/22/00 11:37:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Nothing adds up here. Scientifically the arbiration panel report is nonsense. My own opinion is that Ottey was reinstated for some political reason and a pseudo-scientific smoke screen was built to try to hide the fact. if you

Re: t-and-f: No XC Please!

In a message dated 8/22/00 11:40:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I beg your pardon! Perhaps some relevant x-c discussion and posts are just what this list needs in lieu of some of the tomfoolery that permeates this list. yeah, i agree! So this guy walks into a bar in Hoboken... gh

t-and-f: most peculiar momma, strange days indeed

do you realize that there will only be a single Finnish man running in Sydney? And he'll be Tommi Hartonen, a sprinter?! gh

Re: t-and-f: Nandrolone controversy continues

In a message dated 8/24/00 00:18:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's also not true that the liability in these cases is completely strict. Athletes who have shown that they took stuff inadvertantly - like the Russian who had her food spiked with steroids by an angry partner, and indeed Christie

Fwd: t-and-f: Do rules mean anything?

In a message dated 8/20/00 12:09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From long experience in many sports, it has been my observaton that when money enters the poicture, rules go out the window (or are conveniently altered). At Monaco Friday night, an obvious foul was not called in th

t-and-f: why people got votes

I feel like Jim Rome reading e-mails here. Some of the reasons offered for offing people: Breaux Greer-you have to have at least an A standard for this game right? Tim Seaman-gone...nothing against walking...but he is no Michael Rohl... Melvin Lister (why? I haven't read TFN closely enough

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--round 2

OK clones, you've got 24 hours to cut 2 more people from the dinner table. If you didn't vote the first time, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. And remember, the premise here was that this was somebody you'd want to sit down to

t-and-f: Survivor I results: fastest and slowest are gone

Voting for day 1 is now closed. And the winners (err, losers) are... the guy who moved at the fastest speed at the Trials and the guy who moved at the slowest speed. Mo Greene and Tim Seaman in a dead-heat tie. They're no longer invited to dinner. I don't want to affect future voting, so

Re: t-and-f: SURVIVOR--round 2

In a message dated 8/24/00 19:04:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I hope that the finalists are [snip] Class acts all three. this is pretty amazing: the three names he gave were the three people who didn't pick up a single ding in the first round. On the ohter hand, all three have been

t-and-f: NEXT FLIGHT, NOW DEPARTING.....

Seat 1A, Mr. Greer Seat 1B, Mr. MJ no surprise that they went, since they were 3-4 in Day 1 voting. On the ohter hand, Greer was the clear loser today, but MJ had more votes on Day 1. MJ almost hung on, but the last gasps of voting went big for him. gh

Re: t-and-f: Arnie Robinson recovering from crash injuries

This would be Arnie "why the hell isn't he in the hall of fame" Robinson. No. 6 scorer all-time in the TFN World Rankings, Olympic gold and bronze medals, 6-time national outdoor champion. More deserving than Bob Beamon. gh

t-and-f: survivor question

One inquiring mind wanted to know: Shouldn't we ask the athletes listed if they would really want to have dinner with members of the list? The obvious answer is that since you're paying, there's no question they'll show up! :-) gh

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Web sites

In a message dated 8/26/00 8:19:06 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems odd to think of our sport as "intellectual property", but the gist of your argument has a lot of similarity to the current Napster case. since I'm friends with (name-drop, name-drop!) Lars Ullrich and James Hetfield

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Web sites

In a message dated 8/26/00 10:47:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I interpret the first amendment to our Constitution as going both ways: it grants the press the freedom of speech, in return for responsibility. NBC has exercised the freedom to fail on its responsibility to broadcast the news

Re: t-and-f: Bailey at Van Damme

In a message dated 8/26/00 11:34:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A quote from the webpage: "He (Bailey) said, 'I am not looking to win yet!' He also alluded to the fact that it would be doubtful that he would choose to even try and win a race before Sydney." Imagine if some horse trainer

Re: t-and-f: Kathy Jager's bumpy ride to reinstatement

iaaf decision gone unremarked that i know of, but can be found in the latest edition of IAAF News on the iaaf site (www.iaaf.org) "In the matter of the application for the early reinstatement of Kathy Jager, a 56-year-old athlete of the USA, the Council adopted the position that the IAAF

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--round 5

OK clones, you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Monday) to cut another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. Here are the 13 remaining potential dinner guests

t-and-f: Day 4 wit and wisdom

I can't believe Jennings is gone. He is probably more interesting than everyone else combined. only one Adam allowed, so setliff is out Lister needs to go. no one wants hogs hanging around the dinner table Forgot to let Capel know that Stephen Francis is a bouncer at our dinner. Capel is

Re: t-and-f: Gateshead?

In a message dated 8/27/00 19:48:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No results have been posted for the Gateshead GPII meet. Was the meet cancelled because all entrants decided they had nothing more to prove to themselves in their carefully scheduled programs of readying for Sydney? Or were there

Re: t-and-f: Ionela Tirlea?

In a message dated 8/28/00 4:21:19 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Where's Ionela Tirlea this season? Does anyone know something about her? 51.84 for 4th in the Osaka GP is her only mark of hte year. gh

t-and-f: Day 5--no hogs left to kick around

A day after his Arkansas jumping mate, Robert Howard has been sent to his room without dinner. Since he was the Sunday runner-up (not that anybody but me knew that) it was no surprise.

t-and-f: Day 5 wit and wisdom

Ditch that Dobert fella... never have liked his damn cartoon, anyhow! Capel doesn't get an invitation. He might talk about football and we know nothing about it. Meb Keflezighi - - I'd like to go to dinner with someone who makes it out of the first round in Sydney. Charles Austin. Will go

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

In a message dated 8/28/00 3:11:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that the last year in which no men's track or field world record was broken was 1910, of course it depends on what you mean by standard events, if you don't consider the 1k or the 3k standard then I think it would be

Re: t-and-f: No WRs

In a message dated 8/28/00 17:44:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think a big part of the reason we haven't yet seen a WR is the fact that the games are so late in the year. People are peaking for September, not July and August as usual. A comparable situation in recent memory was the 1988

Re: t-and-f: where are all the world records?

In a message dated 8/28/00 20:38:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually the whole thing is for naught, pending ratification the Russians have already broken the 20 and 50k marks this year so pack it up. There have been world records set by men but who ever asked initially just for got to

Re: t-and-f: LIst Supervisor - new responsibility?

In a message dated 8/29/00 9:21:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about getting the List Supervisor (or his nominee) to do something REALLY useful, and convert all the significant metric marks that are posted to the List to Imperial measurements so that the majority of the List can

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--day 7

OK clones, you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Wednesday) to cut another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. Here are the 11 remaining potential dinner

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

In a message dated 8/29/00 17:34:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It wouldn't be that clean with the general public. And the reason is the news media. Until the old record was exceeded, EVERY news story about some new WR would contain a "However": I think Conway Hill's previous post about

Re: t-and-f: millennium WRs

In a message dated 8/29/00 18:48:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For stat lovers, this coming year would be the best time to wipe out the existing records, because after all, the new millennium doesn't begin until Jan 1, 2001 a millenium is a period (any period) of 1000 years. For 99% of the

Re: t-and-f: Talking tough

In a message dated 8/29/00 17:43:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "They only jump big in America, and these guys, these three guys, are a bunch of dribblers, that's all I'm saying. i give up, what's a dribbler? Malmo, where's that Excel Strine-to-English conversion chart? :-) gh

Re: t-and-f: Re: where are all the world records?

In a message dated 8/30/00 8:05:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why not? Because if you declare all the records drug-tainted and invalid you'll take down some major icons along with those evil commie cheaters - that's why. And some of those icons may hire lawyers to argue the point on their

Re: t-and-f: Ottey 10''99.

In a message dated 8/30/00 11:04:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like Ottey is bound and determined to run her way into the starting blocks for the Olympic 100 meters ! i want to know who it is they're planning on knocking off the team to put her on, and what the over/under is

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--looks like we finish a day early!

since we had a tie, insead of just a single today, there will be a pair for day 7: Meb Lojo And we were close to a 3-way tie. Escaping by the skin of his teeth yet again was a guy who has been no lower than No. 3 ever since day 3, but somehow manages to escape day after day. I'll ID him when

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--day 8

Dudes! you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Thursday) to cut yet another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And no, you don't have to say the same thing two days in a row. Here are the 9 remaining potential dinner guests

Re: t-and-f: ottey on the JAM team

In a message dated 8/30/00 11:52:11 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The word at the JAM trials was that Beveryly Macdonald was only going to run the 200m at the games, thus clearing a spot for Ottey. story on www.sportserver.com on 8/14 said, "McDonald also qualified at 200m and she dropped

Re: t-and-f: Olympic Weather

In a message dated 8/30/00 2:25:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With some of the recent performances we have seen coming out of some meets such as in Gateshead the other day, what type of weather will be expected in Sydney during the games ?? While there has been mention of the drought of

Re: RE: t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

In a message dated 8/31/00 2:25:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For what it's worth, I think there are world records which could fall in Sydney. Women's hammer and javelin come to mind - and three out of four relay events. Then there's Michael Johnson. MJ is a god, but taking a (very)

Re: t-and-f: Metric versus English unit

In a message dated 8/31/00 6:17:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question. Why if TFN is a US magazine is it laid out metrically. Because the metric system is so infinitely superior and easy to use. Nonetheless, i remain at the forefront of those who think that any mention of metric

Re: t-and-f: ISTAF web site--caveat emptor

In a message dated 8/31/00 10:57:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Couldn't have included less information even if they had tried. A really lame effort. Even the instructions for the "student races"--which are limited to the schools in Berlin and Brandenburg--are in English!! That's just

Re: t-and-f: Injured Devers Pulls Out of Berlin

Prediction: if the IAAF continues with its not-have-to-win-all GL meets to get the bucks, they'll say you do have to win the last one. this was SO predictable. gh

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--yet another escape!

who is this mystery man who almost gets bounced every day, but never quite does? He's No.2 again today, the 7th day he has been No. 2 or No. 3! Meanwhile---Mr. Pappas is gone. He was only 4th yesterday and 5th the day before, but put on a big surge. Well, sort of. gh

t-and-f: this one's gonna be close!

Of the first 23 votes, the distribution among the 7 guys left was 4-4-4-4-3-3-0.

t-and-f: Geb vs. Tergat is on

IAAF site has reported that the Kenyans have flipped Ivuti and Tergat, so we'll get a replay of the Atlanta 10K in Sydney. gh

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--day 11

Attention all people without a life (i.e.. those who are reading this instead of doing major Labor Day beer-busting): you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Sunday) to cut yet another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If you didn't vote previously, doesn't mean you can't vote now. And

t-and-f: SURVIVOR 11--i thought they'd never leave!

OK, now that I have my house back to mine, I can do yesterday's recap. Sorry for missing the day. But think how happy Pascal Dobert is, now that we no longer have him to kick around. g

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--day 13

Thanks to a spate of new participaints who made day 12 the busiest day since the first one. Those who wish to participate now that we're down to just (drum roll.) 4 names; you've got 24 hours (i.e., until noon PDT Wednesday) to cut yet another Sacto champion from the dinner table. If

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--down to 4

Adam Goucher a solid choice for the latest whacking, which made sense after being No. 2 the day before and No.3 the day before that. Based on that kind of progression, the next cut will be . (nah, you gotta do it). gh ps--only one bit of wit and wisdom, not worth separate post by

Re: t-and-f: re: Time to start talking about the games !!

In a message dated 9/5/00 16:17:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 5000 Haile - the elusive gold will be his this year. Is he running? definitely not (far as we've been told) gh

Re: t-and-f: Brussels 10k

In a message dated 9/5/00 11:24:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In such an important race is there no video camera fixed on the finish so each athlete could be seen and counted on each lap? Will there be one in Sydney? i believe that at all WC meets, at least, the IAAF makes sure it has tape

t-and-f: track (err, field) on TV tonite

how come nobody gave advance warning that the Ultimate Heavy Athletics World Championships would be on The Deuce on tuesday night? Direct from Fredericksburg, VA, before a crowd of dozens, a bunch of whales chucking things like the 28lb hammer (one-handed), 22lb hammer (on a stick), caber,

Re: RE: t-and-f: Olympic Journalism Ban

In a message dated 9/6/00 9:56:09 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One possible explanation - The rule prevents famous athletes in the Olympic village from being badgered by fellow athletes acting as undercover journalists. "famous" athletes haven't stayed in the Village for years. I think

t-and-f: day 13 wit and wisdom

This post of interest only to people not names Templeton. :-) What's the big Deal? Let Stone Cold Charles Austin put an Adam Nelson on Allen's Johnson. I say, whack that Johnson! Wow, what a surprise. Goucher gone. I'm shocked. Honestly. Maybe the distance guys are too lazy to

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--day 14

OK people, we're down to where it gets really tough, because most of you probably have to be cutting people you actually like (well, unless you're a distancer runner). Those who wish to participate now that we're down to just (drum roll.) 4 names; you've got 24 hours (i.e., until

t-and-f: SURVIVOR 13--that was easy; now it's hard

Adam Nelson was a runaway choice for elimination. The ohter three were essentially in a 3-way tie!

Re: t-and-f: Scalping Tickets in Sydney

from an Aussie friend: seems there's plenty of it going on over the internet through the oztrack chat group. I've xt'd several. I've also met several people who have too many tickets and are trying to onsell at cost...as for the cops, haven't seen any major stories but it is against the law

Re: t-and-f: CNNSI.com - Olympic Sports - Maurice Greene Olympic Diary: John ...

In a message dated 9/6/00 4:48:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does anyone know if other athletes have Olympic diaries at this site? No, but I heard one dyslexic member of the team from Wisconsin came up with an Olympic dairy. gh

Re: RE: RE: t-and-f: Austrailian continental marks

In a message dated 9/4/00 20:27:11, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When Marita Koch ran her 47.60 on 6 October 1985 and took nearly half a second off the old world mark, the temperature in Canberra was around 22 degrees (71F)with a 15km/hour wind prevailing. The forecast had been for a

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--throwers join distance runners....

... and sprinters. Lance Deal an overwhelming choice for being bounced.

Re: t-and-f: Drugs seized at Olympics - another PR disaster

In a message dated 9/7/00 1:16:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do away with the whole testing charade, and, voila, the sport is instantly "pure" and impervious to "drug scandals". amen, brother

Re: t-and-f: Kenyan's Shut Out?

In a message dated 9/7/00 4:22:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When are TF News picks going to be posted on their Web Site? Easy! When we're sure we'll get it right! :-) for now, you'll just have to buy a copy of the October issue (oops, is that a plug?) gh

t-and-f: too funny for words!

thanks to whomever it was who cited www.silly2000.com there's a lot of hilarious reading on there: satire rivaling Onion or National Lampoon at their best, but all Olympic related. gh

Re: t-and-f: Drugs seized at Olympics - another PR disaster

In a message dated 9/8/00 8:04:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How come only Olympic type sports seem to have any drug cheats - from the public's perspective? because we have drug testers/policy makers who think they're on a mission from god--the pro sports are doing a token exercise in

t-and-f: SURVIVOR--set the table for.....

Allen Johnson a resounding winner, 68% to 32% for Austin. we'll see if TFN can't arrange to buy Allen dinner in Sydney in the name of the list. see ya'll in a month--i'm desubscribing until my return (but if i have something of major import from oz will ahve some other list member post it

t-and-f: Just Say Yes!

It has come to our attention that interest in your list is fading mightily because of the recent subject matter. Indeed, we hear that people are actually turning off, tuning out and dropping out. Allow us to burgeon your subscribership ranks by signing up! Sincerely, Ben Johnson, Steve Howe,

Re: t-and-f: Olympic trivia--twice.

In a message dated 11/8/00 14:20:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think I remember reading, somewhere, that Olympic champions in the earliest games of the modern era were awarded silver medals, not gold. I haven't been able to confirm this in sources I've checked recently. Can anyone set the

Re: FW: t-and-f: Temperature and performance

In a message dated 11/7/00 08:58:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have looked at some of these things over the past few years and I have not seen any hard data on adjusting times for temperature differences. Temperatures in the low to mid 60's F (15-20 C) seems to be ideal. Maybe some of

Re: t-and-f: Performances comparison

In a message dated 11/7/00 11:25:34, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This website, developed by Rinaldo Zocca, has developed a statistically-sound approach to comparing world records. MJ's 400 and 200 are ranked as the most advanced, even compared to FloJo's 100, which is the leading women's

Re: t-and-f: Comparative NCAA regional times

In a message dated 11/14/00 09:31:08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If Torres wins the NCAA, will he be the youngest American to do so since Kennedy won as a frosh? How many American's have won this race as a freshman or sophomore? Only one American frosh has ever won: Kennedy in '88 (of

t-and-f: the secret to fitness!

(no, i didn't write this, came around as e-humor) The TRUTH about Health Fitness. ~~~ Q: I've heard that cardiovascular exercise can prolong life. Is this true? A: How could that be true? Your heart is only good for so many beats, and that's it. Everything wears

Re: t-and-f: looking for Gore tex

In a message dated 11/17/00 05:37:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am looking for Gore-tex i don't know much about politics, but i could have sworn that it was Gore-Tenn and Bush-Tex, no? :-) gh

Re: t-and-f: Zatopek's greatest record

In a message dated Fri, 24 Nov 2000 2:58:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, ron bowker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ron Clarke told this story about Zatopek, and referred to it as the "epitomy of fame".. along the same lines: in 1973 a friend of mine was in Warsaw visiting Wladyslaw Komar,

RE: t-and-f: MJ won't run in next World Championships

"I will not be at the world championships, I have to decide precisely what I will do for the last months of my career. I would like to end it as a winner." Don't know where that quote came from, but MJ told us (TFN) just last week that while he PROBABLY won't run in Edmonton, it wasn't yet

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