Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-21 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: The wiki seems pretty clear to me: the definition for trunk_link says The link roads (sliproads/ramps) leading to/from a trunk road from/to a trunk road or lower class highway. So if this connection leads from a

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-18 Thread Richard Mann
The first one is motorway_link, the second primary (because it's two-way), the third primary_link, the fourth could be just about anything from trunk to service. Mapnik makes a mess if a link intersects a service, but that's cos Mapnik renders a trunk_link under a service, which is wrong. The

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-18 Thread Richard Mann
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: The simplest is probably to call the fourth a trunk with a note that there's a case for it being a trunk_link, but that trunk is more renderer-proof. That seems incorrect, and hence tagging (incorrectly) for the

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/18 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: The first one is motorway_link, the second primary (because it's two-way), the third primary_link, the fourth could be just about anything from trunk to service. Mapnik makes a mess if a link intersects a service, but that's cos

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-18 Thread Richard Mann
Trac: about half a dozen already, all saying slightly different things. There's one situation I hadn't thought of: motorway service areas attached to motorway slip roads. Where I'm getting to is: 1) Except for links between motorways and other roads (which should be motorway_link), the

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread charlie
Nathan Edgars II (nerou...@gmail.com) wrote: So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the sole reason through traffic would have

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread charlie
Nathan Edgars II (nerou...@gmail.com) wrote: Charlie wrote: Maybe you could think about it in terms of speed of travel - do cars typically travel at high speeds, moderate speeds or residential speeds - and is the road multi-lane, two-lane etc? That's not what highway classification is for:

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
Nathan Edgars II (nerou...@gmail.com) wrote: So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the sole reason through traffic would have

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Simone Saviolo
2010/6/17 Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com: Simone Saviolo wrote: The wiki seems pretty clear to me: the definition for trunk_link says The link roads (sliproads/ramps) leading to/from a trunk road from/to a trunk road or lower class highway. So if this connection leads from a trunk to a

[Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Simone Saviolo wrote: So how would you tag them, so a person or routing software can see which of the many streets is the connection? Again, judging from the pictures, I wouldn't tag any of those ways in a special manner. They're similar streets that form a grid; a routing software just needs

[Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
John Smith wrote: On 17 June 2010 18:49, Nathan Edgars II neroute2 at gmail.com wrote: But how would the routing software (or person reading the map) know to use these specific streets? In both photos you can see the guide signs that the state has posted to direct traffic along them; it also

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Andre Engels
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Simone Saviolo simone.savi...@gmail.com wrote: Seeing the pictures, in fact, I wouldn't tag them as links either. IMHO, they're not really links, they're just streets that happen to offer a connection between the two main roads. I agree, _link does not seem to

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Richard Mann
Nathan - there's some form of setting in your email account that means that every time you reply to a thread we see a new thread starting (dropping the Re: prefix, maybe?). This makes it very hard to follow the thread, as the emails get out of order. On the specific example, in the UK these would

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: Nathan - there's some form of setting in your email account that means that every time you reply to a thread we see a new thread starting (dropping the Re: prefix, maybe?). This makes it very hard to

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Richard Mann
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 6:00 AM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: On the specific example, in the UK these would be tertiarys: an ordinary street that serves a through or within-city

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Greg Troxel
The only problem is that, in this case, it's not a normal-looking sliproad/ramp, but a surface street that would normally be tagged highway=residential or unclassified. Here are a few examples:

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On 16 Jun 2010, at 20:54 , Nathan Edgars II wrote: So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the sole reason through traffic would

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
So it looks like the general consensus is that a link should only intersect other links except at the ends? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/6/17 char...@cferrero.net: The highway tag is the primary tag used for highways. It is often the only tag.  It is a very general and sometimes vague description of the importance of the highway for the road grid. The term importance isn't defined Why shouldn't importance not be

Re: [Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-17 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: So it looks like the general consensus is that a link should only intersect other links except at the ends? Clarification: I mean that each independent section of the link or connecting string of links should intersect

[Tagging] What classification for a connecting link?

2010-06-16 Thread Nathan Edgars II
So a trunk road crosses a primary road, but you're not allowed to turn at the crossing. Instead you have to turn before or after and loop around to get from one to the other. If this connecting status is the sole reason through traffic would have for using the road, how should it be tagged? trunk?