Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks vs Footways

2011-03-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/17 j...@jfeldredge.com: You also have the fact that it may be physically possible to cross from a sidewalk on one side of the street to the other, due to a lack of barriers, and yet be inadvisable to do so at certain points (in the middle of a blind curve, for instance, or on a road

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
since i wasn't the only one wondering on how to map individual parking spaces, i took the chance to write my first proposal. it's ready for comments and can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking regards flaimo ___

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: since i wasn't the only one wondering on how to map individual parking spaces, i took the chance to write my first proposal. it's ready for comments and can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking While I agree that

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
Am 18.03.2011 11:54, schrieb Flaimo: since i wasn't the only one wondering on how to map individual parking spaces, i took the chance to write my first proposal. it's ready for comments and can be found here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/parking My

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks vs Footways

2011-03-18 Thread john
What I was visualizing was not so much real-time traffic mapping, but rather that certain roads are almost guaranteed to be uncrossable on foot at certain times of day, such as at rush hour. If you are trying to cross them at times when the traffic is light, it is possible to do so, with

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
i think you misread the proposal. you don't tag any capacity tags on a single parking space. and all common properties can also be defined in the relation, so no need to tag every single space either. Quote: General tags ... defined in the relation are inherited by the elements inside the

Re: [Tagging] optimizing the payment tag

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
maybe someone experienced with bots could write one that splits up payment:credit_cards=card_1;card_2;card_3 into payment:card_1=yes + payment:card_2=yes + payment:card_n=yes. same goes for payment:fuel_cards, payment:local_transport and other payment:x=value;value;value tags. regards, flaimo

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks vs Footways

2011-03-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/18 j...@jfeldredge.com: What I was visualizing was not so much real-time traffic mapping, but rather that certain roads are almost guaranteed to be uncrossable on foot at certain times of day, such as at rush hour.  If you are trying to cross them at times when the traffic is light,

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: i think you misread the proposal. you don't tag any capacity tags on a single parking space. and all common properties can also be defined in the relation, IMHO no need for a relation, as the amenity=parking around it already gives you this information. You

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 12:53:01 +0100 From: Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools        tagging@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux) Message-ID: 4d83479d.5090...@tobias-knerr.de Content-Type:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 13:27, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: IMHO no need for a relation, as the amenity=parking around it already gives you this information. You would need the capacity if you won't differentiate between area (several

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalks vs Footways

2011-03-18 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On 3/18/2011 8:18 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2011/3/18j...@jfeldredge.com: What I was visualizing was not so much real-time traffic mapping, but rather that certain roads are almost guaranteed to be uncrossable on foot at certain times of day, such as at rush hour. If you are trying to

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] associatedStreet

2011-03-18 Thread Jo
I also tagged a more complicated one: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1481829/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1481828/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1481830/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1481831/history I guess it

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 13:27, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: i don't agree with that, because only the physical areas where, for example a car, can park is a parking space/area, but not for example the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 18.03.2011 13:33, Flaimo wrote: my original version used new tags for all three elements, but a user in the comments suggested to explicitly use amenity=parking for compatibility reasons and to slowly force renderers to adapt this mapping scheme. I disagree with that user's idea of forcing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
ok, i see what you mean now. use amenity=parking for the whole facility, and the new tags for defining the elements inside. that only works without a relation as long as you only have one logical parking lot that's not split up in different areas. but parking lots, on airports for example, are

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: ok, i see what you mean now. use amenity=parking for the whole facility, and the new tags for defining the elements inside. +1 that only works without a relation as long as you only have one logical parking lot that's not split up in different areas. but

Re: [Tagging] associatedStreet

2011-03-18 Thread Dominik Mahrer (Teddy)
Hi Jo I think this is correct and I use it identical. I do not use addr:street at the buildings. Teddy On 18.03.2011 13:36, Jo wrote: Hi, I'm wondering if I used the associatedStreet relation correctly: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1481807/history I put all the common

Re: [Tagging] associatedStreet

2011-03-18 Thread Robert Elsenaar
Jo, This correct. Also the terrasser plugin makes relations like that. Robert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Dominik Mahrer (Teddy) Sent: Friday, March 18, 2011 4:19 PM To: winfi...@gmail.com ; Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] associatedStreet Hi Jo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Flaimo
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 15:51, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/18 Flaimo fla...@gmail.com: I don't understand this. Inheritance of properties is implicit in multipolygon relations. take a look at the example for the car rental:

Re: [Tagging] propose/help to rename a key -

2011-03-18 Thread crom
Hi, ... ... http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area does everyone agree, that I change the protected_area wiki-page like that: replace protect_id with protect_type on the whole page (with introduction on top)? And in any transition period, become both tags rendered by

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] associatedStreet

2011-03-18 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 3:35 AM, fly lowfligh...@googlemail.com wrote: No editor does know how to handel the relation if you split the way with role street. Yes. In JOSM though it will add a street member for each new shorter way when the street is split. So at least this information isn't