Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Have there been many projects/companies which improved TIGER and released the results as PD? None that I know of; I suppose they have all spent a lot of money to be able to process and improve TIGER and they probably want to recoup that investment through proprietary licensing. Is it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-13 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 10:03:20PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: None that I know of; I suppose they have all spent a lot of money to be able to process and improve TIGER and they probably want to recoup that investment through proprietary licensing. Is it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Users whose contributions are in the public domain

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Is it relevant to us? Surely it's highly relevant to your assertion that we would build a strong community around OSM if it was PD? I thought OJW was not talking about communities but about corporations. Which generally have a bad track record of working for free (perhaps because they

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?

2008-05-13 Thread Simon Wood
On Fri, 9 May 2008 00:24:11 -0600 Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I've had a stab at this, probably the worlds worst python script but it does work Cleaned up version added to SVN, browsable here:

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Freek
On Monday 12 May 2008, Skywave wrote: Freek recently created this image which shows how much of the AND data is untouched: http://www.vanwal.nl/osm/author_density_nl_20080502_full.png(warning 3 MB image). (Blue is untouched AND, green and red have relatively more changes by the community.)

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering

2008-05-13 Thread Lester Caine
elvin ibbotson wrote: Typos in real words are easier to detect than a mistake in entering a number. In the scenario I was suggesting numbers would only replace words for type tags and users would never see the numbers but would just see words (in their own language) mapped to/from numbers

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help providecompleteness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Lester Caine
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: This demonstrates that really there is no one method that fits all. I map urban areas out completely in one go, including the cycleways and footways because just about all are accessible by bike. Occasionally I have a footway I have to go back and do on

Re: [OSM-talk] Unknown road classifications

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Mon, 12 May 2008, Alex Mauer wrote: IMO if it's sufficiently unknown that it will have to be revisited anyway for more accurate classification, marking it as a road rather than a complete unknown isn't really going to be helpful to anyone. Sure it is - I know I can drive down a road, I

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help providecompleteness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Chris Morley
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Verification is a whole new ballgame. I think throughout this discussion there is tendency to get hung up on the word complete, which has been used as a shorthand but is being interpreted differently. In everyday use it has an implication of perfection

[OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Hill
I've come across a problematic way near me: It is a reasonably wide road, but the signs at each end say it is a bridleway. It has a gate across the east end end so you can't drive along it from the east, but you can drive along it from the west end. The west end has no restrictions other

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Steve Hill wrote: Sent: 13 May 2008 9:47 AM To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways I've come across a problematic way near me: It is a reasonably wide road, but the signs at each end say it is a bridleway. It has a gate across the east end end so you can't drive along

[OSM-talk] GPSBabel 1.3.5

2008-05-13 Thread Tom Hughes
GPSBabel 1.3.5 was released a few days ago, and for those of you using the popular NaviGPS units I am pleased to be able to say that the new release of GPSBabel includes native support for the NaviGPS. This includes both direct access to stored tracks, routes and waypoints via the USB cable as

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to helpprovide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Frederik Ramm wrote: Sent: 12 May 2008 10:10 PM To: Jeffrey Martin Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to helpprovide completeness tools Hi, I'm very far from this in Korea, but I would guess in time some parts of the UK will need to be rechecked

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:57 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of us map out an area completely in one go rather than doing it piecemeal. Even if I come across some existing roads in a new area I ignore them and do a new survey so that the whole area makes

Re: [OSM-talk] GPSBabel 1.3.5

2008-05-13 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tom Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The name for the new driver is navilink, so to recover waypoints over the USB cable on linux you would do something like: gpsbabel -w -f navilink -i /dev/ttyUSB0 -F gpx -o waypoints.gpx or even: gpsbabel -w -i

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Steve Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sent: 13 May 2008 10:31 AM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: This is an example of confusing the physical space with

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: This is an example of confusing the physical space with the legal administrative description. Yes, but sadly the highway tag is defined in Map Features to encompass that confusing mixture of physical and legal

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: This is an example of confusing the physical space with the legal administrative description. Yes, but sadly the highway tag is defined in Map Features to encompass that confusing mixture of physical and legal descriptions. :) (It

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 13 May 2008, Richard Fairhurst wrote: (The High Street in Oxford is nominally the A420, so we tag ref=A420, but it's no good as a through-route - the bollards are a bit of a giveaway - so we tag highway=tertiary.) I'm left wondering why they haven't removed the A-road designation if

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Road crossings proposal - status?

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Brian Quinion wrote: island=yes|no I like the idea of marking this, but may I suggest traffic_island or pedestrian_refuge instead? Does this mean any pedestrian refuge in the road, or just those with some other crossing stuff like traffic signals or zebra striping? I'd love to be able to re-use

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging bridleways

2008-05-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Steve Hill wrote: I'm left wondering why they haven't removed the A-road designation if they put bollards in... Anyway, I'm going a bit off topic now. :) We had a thread about it on talk-gb which I think concluded it would have been better designated as the WTF420. horse=yes seems as

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Crossing access types (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Steve Hill wrote: bicycle=yes|no foot=yes|no horse=yes|no Doing this for crossings is not right, IMO. It's a bad usage of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:access , or more specifically its 'helper' tags like foot=yes|no or bicycle=*. Consider: * If two ways cross at a crossing

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Bridge proposal

2008-05-13 Thread Mike Collinson
At 11:11 AM 13/05/2008, Raphael Studer wrote: I've formally written up my Bridge proposal, as mentioned here a week or two ago: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Bridge Does someone care about this proposal? Regards Rapahel It seems so:

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Crossing access types (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Hill
On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: * If two ways cross at a crossing Node, access keys would logically apply to both. Declaring that crossings are somehow special and that access tags on them apply only to the crossing traffic is worse. Ok, sounds like we would need

[OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Ulf Mehlig
Please excuse me if this is a FAQ, I just didn't find an answer in the wiki (possibly because it is obvious) ... In topological GISses like grass, borders are shared between adjacent (vector) areas. However, I wonder how adjacent areas should be digitized in OSM (let's say, forests and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Crossing access types

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Steve Hill wrote: On Tue, 13 May 2008, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: * If two ways cross at a crossing Node, access keys would logically apply to both. Declaring that crossings are somehow special and that access tags on them apply only to the crossing traffic is worse. Ok,

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Ulf Mehlig wrote: I think that using a street as a border of a plaza (or a block of buildings) is not wanted. Does one digitize double ways, leading along the same nodes, or does one make a separate area in a small distance to the existing line (street/stream), which might be topologically

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 13 May 2008, at 14:06, Ulf Mehlig wrote: Please excuse me if this is a FAQ, I just didn't find an answer in the wiki (possibly because it is obvious) ... In topological GISses like grass, borders are shared between adjacent (vector) areas. However, I wonder how adjacent areas should be

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Am I right in assuming that OSM ways always belong to one single area? Yes and no. Normally we don't map the borders between areas - we map tha areas themselves. So you would have one way that encloses the forest, and one way that encloses the adjacent farmland, and they would meet

[OSM-talk] API: how to retrieve all tracks of a certain user?

2008-05-13 Thread Danilo Abbate
Hi, i'm new in this list (i write in the italian mailing list) but i thought it would be better to write my doubts here. I'm having a look at OSM APIs and i'm not able to find out how to download all my gpx traces i've uploaded so far. I can only find how to retrieve all trackpoints in a bounding

Re: [OSM-talk] API: how to retrieve all tracks of a certain user?

2008-05-13 Thread Tom Hughes
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Danilo Abbate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm new in this list (i write in the italian mailing list) but i thought it would be better to write my doubts here. I'm having a look at OSM APIs and i'm not able to find out how to download all my gpx traces i've

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Shaun McDonald wrote: If you have a road and stream running parallel they would be entered as 2 ways that are parallel. The same happens for the carriageways of a motorway that are separated by a barrier. Well, let's say that this is also controversial and we had that discussion before.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
Frederik Ramm wrote: Once we have a few applications in place that get viewed by *many* people, we could just have a button somewhere along the margin of the page that says: I know the area and what I see here looks correct. Given that this will be the default very soon ( :-) ), I'd rather

[OSM-talk] Attempt to make a map of a building floorplan

2008-05-13 Thread Alexander Schwartz
Hello! I'm trying to accomplish something and I was hoping someone could assist me on this. Basically I have created an isometric 3d render of the floor plan of my company's building. I would like to make a map with multiple layers on which users can identify key points, like the big

[OSM-talk] Mapping China

2008-05-13 Thread Jonas Svensson
After text, pictures, and videos, China starts regulating Internet map publishing (here is the google translation.) The government believes that Internet maps can represent the state's sovereignty and its political and diplomatic positions in the international community . and consequently,

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 02:31:32PM +0100, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: I subscribe to the view that areas should correspond to the real area on the ground and mostly be kept clear of roadways. Placing an Area's Nodes near the adjacent Way's nodes helps make the map easier to maintain.

Re: [OSM-talk] Attempt to make a map of a building floorplan

2008-05-13 Thread Patrick Weber
You will probably have more luck with the following application, which does the tile cutting you need: http://www.casa.ucl.ac.uk/software/googlemapimagecutter.asp Mapnik is not meant as a tile cutter, but renders data from a XML file, so I think it wouldnt be off much use for you. Cheers

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Thread David Earl
On 13/05/2008 15:35, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Once we have a few applications in place that get viewed by *many* people, we could just have a button somewhere along the margin of the page that says: I know the area and what I see here looks correct. Given that this will

Re: [OSM-talk] GPSBabel 1.3.5

2008-05-13 Thread Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany)
Great !! On Dienstag 13 Mai 2008, Tom Hughes wrote: GPSBabel 1.3.5 was released a few days ago, and for those of you using the popular NaviGPS units I am pleased to be able to say that the new release of GPSBabel includes native support for the NaviGPS. This includes both direct access to

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools

2008-05-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
David Earl wrote: Sent: 13 May 2008 6:48 PM To: Sebastian Spaeth Cc: OSM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Developers requested to help provide completeness tools On 13/05/2008 15:35, Sebastian Spaeth wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: Once we have a few applications in place that get viewed by *many*

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, The issue is especially contended when it comes to linear features   straddling areas, like a road that forms the forest boundary for a   bit. I would re-use the same nodes here, but there are people who say   that this would indicate the forest stretching up to the road   centreline

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?

2008-05-13 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 12:08 AM, Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 9 May 2008 00:24:11 -0600 Simon Wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I've had a stab at this, probably the worlds worst python script but it does work Cleaned up version added to SVN, browsable here:

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Christoph Eckert wrote: Hi, The issue is especially contended when it comes to linear features straddling areas, like a road that forms the forest boundary for a bit. I would re-use the same nodes here, but there are people who say that this would indicate the forest stretching up to

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Aware, the state of the current pheromones

2008-05-13 Thread François Schnell
Thanks Tim for your feedback, I appreciate. Concerning World Wind it looks like you can visualize KML with placemarks since version 1.3.4. I just had a quick try, it seems to work fine for placemarks (but it doesn't seem to show the extrusion for lines in my v2 KMLs, just the top):

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?

2008-05-13 Thread simon
Hey, I haven't had a chance to look at this yet, but I just opened up the input file in a text editor and saw: Copyright=THIS MAP CANNOT BE SOLD I think this is incompatible with our license (commercial use is okay). Is the author/maintainer that gave you permission aware of this? I did

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Stephen Hope
Says who? The boundary of the forest IS the road. :) This is one of religious discussions - both sides KNOW they are right, and no amount of discussion is going to change things. Unless we have a central decision making force of some sort lay down the law, (in OSM - hah!) you'll continue to

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting Polish/.MP to OSM?

2008-05-13 Thread Karl Newman
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 5:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, I haven't had a chance to look at this yet, but I just opened up the input file in a text editor and saw: Copyright=THIS MAP CANNOT BE SOLD I think this is incompatible with our license (commercial use is okay). Is the

[OSM-talk-nl] bruggen

2008-05-13 Thread Dieter Van Uytvanck
Hallo, Kan iemand me vertellen hoe ik een brug aanmaak in JOSM? Het gaat om de situatie - straat A - brug met naam B - straat C Ik snap niet helemaal hoe ik dat stuk in 3 aaneensluitende nodes met telkens een verschillende naam kan splitsen. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:bridge

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bruggen

2008-05-13 Thread Henk Hoff
Hallo Dieter, Het opsplitsen van een way gaat in JOSM als volgt: - selecteer de way en de node waar je de opsplitsing wilt maken. - kies uit het menu Tools Split way Je hebt nu de geselecteerde way opgedeeld in twee verschillende. Uiteraard kun je ook meerdere nodes selecteren. In dat geval

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] bruggen

2008-05-13 Thread Gert Gremmen
Met het keyboard gaat dat nog handiger: Plaats een node: A-U-A-U-A-U 3 nodes geplaatst, met de muis mikken natuurlijk (alleen waar nodig natuurlijk) Splitsen : U - S - ctrl klik - klik (2 nodes geselecteerd) - P A= selecteer draw mode U= Unselect S= Selectie mode P= split road Probeer

[talk-au] facts

2008-05-13 Thread Jim Croft
In relation to our copyright discussions, the following might be of interest: http://sciencecommons.org/weblog/archives/2008/05/12/how-to-free-your-facts/ attribution stacking is an interesting concept... jim -- _ Jim Croft [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know why we are here, but

Re: [Talk-de] Yahoo Bilder in Josm anzeigen

2008-05-13 Thread Raphael Studer
Ich habs gerade mal getestet und bisher sieht es sehr gut aus. Abestürzt ist bisher nichts. Allerdings ist es immer noch extrem ruckelig. Ich bekomme geschätzt max. 1 FPS. Könnte man die FPS nicht noch unten einblenden, da wo die Winkel etc schon sind? Ok, ich schau ob ich das über Mittag

[Talk-de] Schul-Mapping-Aktion und Vortrag in Kö ln

2008-05-13 Thread Jochen Topf
Nächste Woche Montag und Dienstag (19./20.5.) mache ich eine Mapping-Aktion mit Schülern des Elisabeth-von-Thüringen-Gymnasiums in Köln. Am Dienstag abend gibt es dann dort einen öffentlichen Vortrag zu OSM von mir und die Schüler stellen vor, was sie in den beiden Tagen erreicht haben. Mehr Info

[Talk-de] FYI: Yahoo! Internet Location Platform

2008-05-13 Thread Steffen Voß
Nicht direkt OSM, aber sicher auch interessant: http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/readwriteweb/~3/289027884/yahoo_geolocation_api.php -- Gruß Steffen http://kaffeeringe.de - Internet Kreativität ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] Layer

2008-05-13 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo, mir fiel gerade mal wieder eine Straßenlücke bei [EMAIL PROTECTED] auf. in JOSM sah ich dann, daß dort ein Straßentunnel war, dummerweise mit layer -1 in einem landuse=residential ohne layer (also 0). Mapnik zeichnet den Tunnel, richtig. Kann man [EMAIL PROTECTED] auch mal beibringen,

[Talk-de] luftseilbahn taggen

2008-05-13 Thread mariner
hallo allesamt, welchen tag hat eine luftseilbahn? im wiki sah ich cable car. dies wäre jedoch eher eine standseilbahn und nicht die variante in der luft. was schlagt ihr mir vo zu nehmen? ich würde gerne meinen ausflug von gestern auf der karte erfassen. grüsse mariner

Re: [Talk-de] luftseilbahn taggen

2008-05-13 Thread Raphael Studer
welchen tag hat eine luftseilbahn? im wiki sah ich cable car. dies wäre jedoch eher eine standseilbahn und nicht die variante in der luft. was schlagt ihr mir vo zu nehmen? ich würde gerne meinen ausflug von gestern auf der karte erfassen. aerialway=cable_car ist schon das richtige Tag

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Brücke / Fußgängerbrücke wird über Fluß nicht korrekt gerendert.

2008-05-13 Thread Fabian -Patzi- Patzke
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 | kann mal jemand einen Blick auf klar | http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=52.40245457787084lon=9.630160076313922zoom=17layers=B000F000F | werfen? | Was stimmt da mit der Fußgänger-Brücke nicht? also unter mapnik hat er es gerendert. Ich habe

Re: [Talk-de] luftseilbahn taggen

2008-05-13 Thread Henry Loenwind
Raphael Studer wrote: aerialway=cable_car ist schon das richtige Tag für die Luftseilbahn. Jepp, die Luft steckt da schon im Tag. Allerdings frage ich mich, warum es railway=cable_car nicht gibt laut Features-Seite... cu Henry ___ Talk-de mailing

Re: [Talk-de] Layer

2008-05-13 Thread Henry Loenwind
Dimitri Junker wrote: ich dann, daß dort ein Straßentunnel war, dummerweise mit layer -1 in einem richtig. Kann man [EMAIL PROTECTED] auch mal beibringen, daß eine Fläche keine ways überdecken sollte. Mmmmh, eher andersrum. Tunnel sollten über alles (außer Icons und Beschriftungen)

Re: [Talk-de] Problem mit GPS-Tuner, Waypoints in OSM

2008-05-13 Thread Christian Matzat
Die drei Zeichen am Anfang sind der erste Fehlergrund weil nach den XML-Spezifikationen vor dem ?xml version=1.0? nichts anderes erlaubt ist und der verwendete XML-Parser eine Content-Prüfung macht. Das sagt auch die Fehlermeldung aus (Content is not allowed in prolog). Am 10.05.2008 um

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Präsentationen in Hamburg

2008-05-13 Thread Stephan Schildberg
Hallo Christian, schön dass Du Dich gemeldet hast. :-) Das Meeting ist ein Kennenlernen anderer Hamburger Kollegen, welche Inhalte unter freien/ freieren Lizenzen veröffentlichen. Das heißt, es muss dort nicht erst die Reihe an Vorteilen der Nutzungsrechte erklärt werden. Wir kommen alle

Re: [Talk-de] Wie mappe ich, ohne unangenehm aufzufallen?

2008-05-13 Thread Andreas Kemnade
Moin, On Tue, 06 May 2008 22:05:40 +0200 Dirk-Lüder Kreie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Moin, [...] Auch beim Mappen der Wege eines Friedhofs bin ich misstrauisch beäugt worden. Ein netter Gruß hat die meisten Situationen sofort in das totale

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrrad-Brücke / Fußgängerbrücke wird über Fluß nicht korrekt gerendert.

2008-05-13 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Fabian -Patzi- Patzke schrieb: Zusätzlich habe ich noch das highway tag auf cycleway gesetzt, damit es auch zu den angrenzenden besser passt und dann bicycle=yes rausgenommen, da ein highway=cycleway automatisch bicycle=yes aussagt. Gilt auch so für highway=footway das foot=yes automatisch

Re: [Talk-de] Layer

2008-05-13 Thread Dimitri Junker
Hallo Mmmmh, eher andersrum. Tunnel sollten über alles (außer Icons und Beschriftungen) gerendert werden Und was wäre wenn die Straße nicht durch einen Tunnel führt, sondern einfach durch ein Tal und darüber eine Brücke führt? Gibt man dann der unteren Straße layer -1 und der oberen 0, so würde

Re: [Talk-de] Layer

2008-05-13 Thread Henry Loenwind
Dimitri Junker wrote: Und was wäre wenn die Straße nicht durch einen Tunnel führt, sondern einfach durch ein Tal und darüber eine Brücke führt? Gibt man dann der unteren Straße layer -1 und der oberen 0, so würde die untere auch nicht gezeichnet. Das wird jetzt auch nicht richtig

Re: [Talk-it] [Soci.gfoss] da GFOSS.it - M(')appare un pezzetto di Verona....e poi ci si va a giocare

2008-05-13 Thread Marco Polci
andrea giacomelli wrote: 2. su http://www.pibinko.org/out/proposta_tocati.png ho riportato la mappa che mi hanno dato loro come zona che sarebbe da coprire. chi è più veronologo di me saprà se lì c'è poca o tanta roba. ...ho provato a inserire la figura sul wiki OSM nella sezione delle

[Talk-it] M(')appare Milano - 25 maggio

2008-05-13 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
Salve a tutti, io sarò assente anche questa volta, ma conto negli altri. Pensavo si potrebbe mappare Sesto San Giovanni o Bresso. Che ne dite? Conoscete locali aperti di domenica che abbiano connessione Internet? Edoardo -- Edoardo Marascalchi ICT Consultant website:

Re: [Talk-it] [Soci.gfoss] da GFOSS.it - M(')appare un pezzetto di Verona....e poi ci si va a giocare

2008-05-13 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
Cercherò anche io di fare il possibile per partecipare basta che non sia per domenica 8. Già la domenica successiva sarebbe ottima. Edoardo -- Edoardo Marascalchi ICT Consultant website: http://www.edoardomarascalchi.it skype: My status skype:asca_edom?call

Re: [Talk-it] [Soci.gfoss] da GFOSS.it - M(')appare un pezzetto di Verona....e poi ci si va a giocare

2008-05-13 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Il giorno mar, 13/05/2008 alle 18.09 +0200, Bighi ha scritto: Uso questo post anche per presentarmi, sono nuovo qui e non nemmeno se funziona cosi' la scrittura di messaggi nella talk list: speriamo sia arrivato. Arrivato senza problemi! Sono di Verona, diciamo per precisione che lo ero

[Talk-es] abutters y landuse

2008-05-13 Thread Pablo Gómez
Hola a todos! pregunta fácil (para quien lo sepa): cuándo usar abutters y cuando landuse? saludos! Rummidge ___ Talk-es mailing list Talk-es@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-es

Re: [Talk-es] abutters y landuse

2008-05-13 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
Hola, pues tal como yo lo entiendo es esto: Imagínate que vas de viaje por una carretera que no conoces con tu GPS y al pasar cierto cruce, empiezas a atravesar una zona industrial que es desconocida para ti y te apuntas en la libreta: al salir a la N-XXX, empieza zona industrial y dura 2

Re: [Talk-es] abutters y landuse

2008-05-13 Thread Juan Lucas Dominguez Rubio
El ejemplo de landuse=forest también está hecho igual, y un bosque no suele ocupar una manzana. Esos ejemplitos los han hecho en serie sin pensar mucho. Yo creo que muchos landuse como por ejemplo industrial, residential, commercial, retail y forest están pensados para ser usados en zonas

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Kubajz
Ahoj, jako napad se mi to libi. Prosim, napis to jako navrh namisto soucasne stranky na wiki do proposed features. Porad ale zustava otazka, jak to renderovat, protoze soucasna jedina pouzitelna relace je multipolygon a ta se do DB uklada jako polygon. Jak ulozit do databaze nepodporujici relace

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Kubajz
Odvolavam, co jsem odvolal a slibuji, co jsem slibil - podle wiki je vse uz jinak - zustal jsem s informacemi nekde pred pul rokem :] Ano - navrh se mi libi :] K Tomáš Tichý napsal(a): Ahoj, vzhledem k tomu, ze podpora relaci v editorech se pomalu dostava do pouzitelneho stavu, myslim, ze je

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Pavel Machek
Ahoj! vzhledem k tomu, ze podpora relaci v editorech se pomalu dostava do pouzitelneho stavu, myslim, ze je cas oprasit myslenku mapovani turistickych znacek pomoci relaci. Navrhuji pouzit podobne schema tagu, jako u cyklotras, tedy: relation = route route = marked_trail (nebo

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Ma to vsechny vyhody relace :-) Tedy nezapleveluji se cesty dalsimi tagy a nemusi se resit duplicitni tagy (jako treba ref) obskurnimi pseudonamespacy a podobnymi zverstvy. Neni problem s vice relacemi nad jednou cestou. Navrh je konzistentni se soucasnym znacenim cyklotras. Navic relace je

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, no to teda tak neni - s cyklotrasami. Muzes je renderovat pres relation, ale normalne se znaci pres ncn_ref a podobne. Vasek On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ma to vsechny vyhody relace :-) Tedy nezapleveluji se cesty dalsimi tagy a nemusi se resit

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Kubajz
Dosud byl problem s tim, ze relace nebyly moc podporovany a spatne se s nimi pracovalo. Pokud se tohle zmeni, tak i semanticky je to spravnejsi zpusob... K Tomáš Tichý napsal(a): Asi jsem se spatne vyjadril, prave cyklotrasy je krasny priklad koexistence obou zpusobu znaceni - pres tagy cest a

[Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, minuly tyden jsem si povidal s Vratou Fillerem, z valne casti autorem obsahu mapy na Prahounakole. Co z toho vypadlo zajimaveho o mape: - mapa je realizovana jako vicevrstva bitmapa - je mapovy podklad, ten je Shocartu, nad tim jsou cyklostezky coby cary a pismenka a jeste nad tim jsou

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Super, to je skvělá zpráva, ale potřebovali bychom teda ty dvě samotné vrstvy :-) Na webu to je všechno sloučené a georeferencované, ale vzhledem k vrstvě Shocartu není košer podle toho kreslit. Dalsi otazka je, jak tagovat ty neoficialni cyklotrasy a cyklozajimave POI, IMHO to bude potrebovat

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, zkusim za chvilku delsi odpoved - zkousim shrnout do Wiki znaceni. Vasek 2008/5/13 Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Super, to je skvělá zpráva, ale potřebovali bychom teda ty dvě samotné vrstvy :-) Na webu to je všechno sloučené a georeferencované, ale vzhledem k vrstvě Shocartu není

Re: [Talk-cz] Turisticke znacky a relace

2008-05-13 Thread Michal Grézl
Relace jsou super ale ani mapnik ani osmarender je nepodporuje krome der v polygonech, takze resit je momentalne nema smysl. Ovsem myslim ze nikomu nic nebrani kct_* cpat do mapy jako relaci. Hlavne aby casem nas renderer (nebot osm osmarender ani mapnik v blizke dobe nase stezky renderova

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, jo, o samostatne vrstvy jsem uz poprosil. K tagum - navrhuju zkusit to shrnout do Wiki do tabulky, uvidime, co chybi. Vasek 2008/5/13 Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Super, to je skvělá zpráva, ale potřebovali bychom teda ty dvě samotné vrstvy :-) Na webu to je všechno sloučené a

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Tomáš Tichý
OK, chvilku strpeni a hodim to na wiki. =TT= 2008/5/13 Vaclav Stepan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ahoj, jo, o samostatne vrstvy jsem uz poprosil. K tagum - navrhuju zkusit to shrnout do Wiki do tabulky, uvidime, co chybi. Vasek 2008/5/13 Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Super, to je skvělá

[Talk-cz] Tagování cyklostezek v Praze - náv rh

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, zkusil jsem shrnout současné značení sítí v Praze na Wiki, je to tu: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/WikiProjekt_Czechia/cycle_ways Na stránku je link z Czechia editing rules. Je to OK, nebo s tím mám počkat, kdyby byly protesty (vaše :-))? Přemýšlel jsem nad značením cyklotras.

Re: [Talk-cz] Tagování cyklostezek v Praze - náv rh

2008-05-13 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Neosuhlasím s návrhem, hlavní rozdíl mezi oficiálními a neoficiálními trasami je právě to značení v terénu, takže to může vést ke zmatení, protože se to vyrenderuje na cyklomapě stejně jako oficiální trasy. Rozhodně bych nemíchal značené a neznačené trasy. Značená a neznačená trasa musí být na

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Tak jsem na wiki dal návrh konvezní tabulky PNK-OSM, zatím do talku, prosím doplňujte a komentujte. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:WikiProjekt_Czechia/cycle_ways =TT= 2008/5/13 Vaclav Stepan [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ahoj, jo, o samostatne vrstvy jsem uz poprosil. K tagum -

Re: [Talk-cz] Tagování cyklostezek v Praze - náv rh

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ahoj, díky za připomínky. Rozběhneš renderer, nebo protlačíš úpravu mapniku, aby se to taky dalo zobrazovat? Vašek 2008/5/13 Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Neosuhlasím s návrhem, hlavní rozdíl mezi oficiálními a neoficiálními trasami je právě to značení v terénu, takže to může vést ke

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Cyklistický pruh je popsaný tu: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Key:cycleway v tom moc nejasnosti nejsou, ne? Vašek 2008/5/13 Tomáš Tichý [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Tak jsem na wiki dal návrh konvezní tabulky PNK-OSM, zatím do talku, prosím doplňujte a komentujte.

Re: [Talk-cz] Cyklostezky v Praze a prahounakole.cz

2008-05-13 Thread Vaclav Stepan
Ok, doplněno pár značek, přehodil jsem tam poznámky k sítím v Praze. K network přístupu - souhlasím, že rozlišit značené a neznačené trasy by bylo dobré a je to dobrá abstrakce. Otázka ale je, jak v dohledné době zajistit, aby z toho byla i nějaká mapa a navíc zohledňující páteřní a nepáteřní

[Talk-cz] UHUL mapy a Merkaartor

2008-05-13 Thread Tomáš Mika
Zdravim Pouziva nekdo UHUL mapy v Merkaartoru? Popripadne jake jine mapy jsou v Merkaartoru pouzitelne pro CR, kraj jihomoravsky. Diky ToMik ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-cz] UHUL mapy a Merkaartor

2008-05-13 Thread Jiri Klement
Merkaartor nepouzivam, ale dotaz mi pripomel, ze bych mel zkontrolovat jestli uz bezi UHUL ortofoto - ukazalo se, ze opet funguje. Nova url je:

Re: [Talk-cz] UHUL mapy a Merkaartor

2008-05-13 Thread Jiri Jakes
Skvělé, díky! Hlavně, že jak trouba, každý den pingám tu starou IP adresu :-) Jiří Jiri Klement wrote: Merkaartor nepouzivam, ale dotaz mi pripomel, ze bych mel zkontrolovat jestli uz bezi UHUL ortofoto - ukazalo se, ze opet funguje. Nova url je:

[Talk-cz] problem s UHUL

2008-05-13 Thread noone02
http://geoportal2.uhul.cz/cgi-bin/oprl.asp?SERVICE=WMSVERSION=1.1.1REQUEST=GetMapSRS=EPSG:4326LAYERS=Ortofoto_cbSTYLES=defaultFORMAT=image/jpegTRANSPARENT=TRUE Kde delam chybu ze zadne orthofoto v JOSM nevidim ? Vytvori se vrstva ale je prazdna, zadny timeout jako kdybych mel spatne adresu. Data

Re: [Talk-cz] UHUL mapy a Merkaartor

2008-05-13 Thread Pavel Machek
Ahoj! Merkaartor nepouzivam, ale dotaz mi pripomel, ze bych mel zkontrolovat jestli uz bezi UHUL ortofoto - ukazalo se, ze opet funguje. Nova url je:

[OSM-talk-fr] une nouvelle page d'accueil sur le wiki ?

2008-05-13 Thread Pieren Pieren
A tous, Je travaille depuis quelques temps déjà sur un prototype de nouvelle page d'accueil francophone sur le wiki. La 1ere réunion IRC francophone avait montré que beaucoup de gens étaient frustrés par le manque d'organisation du wiki aussi ais-je pensé qu'une page d'accueil avec d'avantages de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] une nouvelle page d'accueil sur le wiki ?

2008-05-13 Thread Julien Langlois
2008/5/13 Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Donc, ma proposition serait de remplacer la page actuelle: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Fr:Main_Page par celle-ci: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Pieren/sandbox Super cool :) c'est beaucoup mieux que l'actuel -- Julien

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] une nouvelle page d'accueil sur le wiki ?

2008-05-13 Thread Jean-Yves LEBLEU
Je vote pour X 100, Super idée et belle réalisation. Jean-Yves 2008/5/13 Julien Langlois [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2008/5/13 Pieren Pieren [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Donc, ma proposition serait de remplacer la page actuelle: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Fr:Main_Page par celle-ci:

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] une nouvelle page d'accueil sur le wiki ?

2008-05-13 Thread Axel R.
j'aime beaucoup. Bon travail ! Axel A tous, Je travaille depuis quelques temps déjà sur un prototype de nouvelle page d'accueil francophone sur le wiki. La 1ere réunion IRC francophone avait montré que beaucoup de gens étaient frustrés par le manque d'organisation du wiki aussi ais-je

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