Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 'Fair Use'

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Miller
On 12 Jan 2009, at 14:52, Rob Myers wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: There does however appear to be something in the UK about 'fair dealing'. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing#Fair_dealing_in_the_United_Kingdom It seems a

[OSM-legal-talk] data import in Belarus

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Miller
Begin forwarded message: From: Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com Date: 13 January 2009 21:14:47 GMT To: t...@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Spam] [OSM-talk] data import in Belarus Dear All, I am writing on behalf of someone I met at a LUG meeting I spoke at who is concerned that the data

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal - leisure=bird_hide

2009-01-13 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 7:18 PM, LeedsTracker leedstrac...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/12 Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com: On 1/12/09, LeedsTracker leedstrac...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I would like to propose a new tag for a bird hide: leisure=bird_hide Not sure if/how these could be

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging as for artificial islands

2009-01-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:37 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Any tips for properly tagging this feature: http://mayniladailyphoto.blogspot.com/2008/01/philippine-relief-map.html I added the map coastline using the actual coastline of the Philippines in OSM, with a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Trust

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Erik Johansson wrote: PS. The current tools for change monitoring are actually only for spotting edits not changes, i.e. you don't see the changes people make only the new version they upload. Having a see changes would be nice API 0.6 will enable the site to do a lot of this, if I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Trust

2009-01-13 Thread Nic Roets
Thoughts on incorporating trust in change monitoring tools? Given eyeballs, all bugs are shallow. My interpretation is we should make it easy for many people to use the data by publishing it on as many devices and websites as possible. Getting our data in the Google index. As opposed to new

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging as for artificial islands

2009-01-13 Thread maning sambale
Salamat! On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 7:37 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Any tips for properly tagging this feature:

[OSM-talk] 26 languages

2009-01-13 Thread Lars Aronsson
Wikipedia's article about OpenStreetMap is now available in 26 languages. The most recently added is a brief translation in Swahili, the East African language. http://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap It starts out by explaining that OpenStreetMap (OSM) ni mradi shirikishi wa uumbaji wa

[OSM-talk] Strange downloading problems

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Gaines
Hi All, I am experiencing strange problems trying to download certain areas of the map using a browser (Firefox) and the xapi interface. When I try: http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/node[bbox=-10,52,-9,53] for example - it downloads successfully. However when I give it a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Mike Harris
As a relative newbie I still remember my first experiences with both Potlatch and JOSM. I have no idea whether my own experience is typical but I did find the learning curve steeper on Potlatch than on JOSM even though the wikis imply the opposite. I think that Richard may have put his finger on

Re: [OSM-talk] Strange downloading problems

2009-01-13 Thread Etienne Cherdlu
Your request is for quite a large area. The browser is probably timing out before any response is generated. Try using wget or curl both of which allow you to set a bigger timeout period. 80n On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Peter Gaines peter_gai...@hotmail.comwrote: Hi All, I am

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Ed Loach
Mike wrote: Also - for what it's worth - I find that I use both Potlatch and JOSM but for different tasks. I use JOSM as my main editor and for doing bulk work on new routes. I find Potlatch is better for doing minor tweaks and also for Yahoo tracing (even with the JOSM plugins, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Barnett, Phillip
I believe Richard did the rectification for Potlatch and claims it to be better than JOSM's. ('Claim' seems slightly loaded but despite being a native English speaker I can't think of a more accurate word to describe a statement I believe to be true but have no immediate way of verifying)

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Phillip Barnett wrote: I believe Richard did the rectification for Potlatch and claims it to be better than JOSM's. True for NPE but not for Yahoo - Potlatch just uses the standard Yahoo Flash component, it doesn't do any extra fiddling around (well, other than a tiny tweak to get the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Spam] OpenStreetMap Trust

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Miller
On 13 Jan 2009, at 03:30, Mikel Maron wrote: Say I'm monitoring an area for unusual changes. There are people I trust -- people who've been on OSM a while, or OSM newbies I know personally .. perhaps they are marked as friends in osm.org. I don't want to look at every edit. The edits I

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Mapper, OSM book (was: OpenStreetMap Trust)

2009-01-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: Fyi, we are planning to change the name of OSM Mapper to ITO Mapper at some point in the near future. If you do change the name, maybe it might make sense to choose something altogether different. At least in the world of OSM, to map means collecting geodata and

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Mapper, OSM book (was: OpenStreetMap Trust)

2009-01-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: (Yes, we'll describe API 0.6 in the book and not 0.5, hoping that it won't take another year to finish. And no, the new license will get a passing mention only. And no, we don't have an English version of the book yet

[OSM-talk] bug in mapnik UTF8 renderer

2009-01-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
the parentheses around Oman should be reversed. problem in the UTF8 shaper (or lack thereof) ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=22.08lon=59.1zoom=6layers=B000FTF ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Mapper, OSM book

2009-01-13 Thread John07
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Peter Miller wrote: Fyi, we are planning to change the name of OSM Mapper to ITO Mapper at some point in the near future. If you do change the name, maybe it might make sense to choose something altogether different. At least in the world of OSM, to

[OSM-talk] drawing bug in mapnik

2009-01-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
found this while looking at gaza city inline: mapnik bug.png___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] bug in mapnik UTF8 renderer

2009-01-13 Thread Ed Loach
the parentheses around Oman should be reversed. problem in the UTF8 shaper (or lack thereof) ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=22.08lon=59.1zoom=6layers= B000FTF It looks like they were removed yesterday from the node which I'm guessing is perhaps where the name comes from?

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread John07
Mike Harris schrieb: As a relative newbie I still remember my first experiences with both Potlatch and JOSM. I have no idea whether my own experience is typical but I did find the learning curve steeper on Potlatch than on JOSM even though the wikis imply the opposite. I think that Richard may

Re: [OSM-talk] bug in mapnik UTF8 renderer

2009-01-13 Thread Ben Laenen
On Tuesday 13 January 2009, Ed Loach wrote: the parentheses around Oman should be reversed. problem in the UTF8 shaper (or lack thereof) ? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=22.08lon=59.1zoom=6layers= B000FTF It looks like they were removed yesterday from the node which I'm guessing is

Re: [OSM-talk] ITO Mapper, OSM book

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Miller
On 13 Jan 2009, at 15:25, John07 wrote: Frederik Ramm schrieb: Hi, Peter Miller wrote: Fyi, we are planning to change the name of OSM Mapper to ITO Mapper at some point in the near future. If you do change the name, maybe it might make sense to choose something altogether

Re: [OSM-talk] drawing bug in mapnik

2009-01-13 Thread Thomas Wood
Yeah, I'd noticed this sort of effect when closely looking at the admin_level=2 boundaries over the sea. Seems most obvious when the line is close to vertical, z=12 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2689lon=2.3916zoom=14layers=B000FTF 2009/1/13 Raphaël Jacquot sxp...@sxpert.org: found this

[OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Tim Berners-Lee
(Changing the subject line) The map really needs a SPARQL server (easy), and cross-linking to URIs in dbpedia or geonames (which are themselves alreday cross-linked) would be a good idea (but more work). From outside it looks as though the OSM XML format and API are developing in the

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread Tim Berners-Lee
Peter, Yes, my first post. But just me as a map and outdoors enthusiast. Not representing W3C. No subtext to my post. Just asking for tag. (Now landuse=conservation is in mapnik and osmarender, I am more confident we are making progress on this, and will be able to motivate people to

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
This is one of those situations where we might split the tagging to firstly denote what is on the ground and secondly to give the various administrative and other conservation classifications and controls. A good start as you suggest would be to list conservation designations by country so that we

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Tim Berners-Lee wrote: Sent: 13 January 2009 3:31 PM To: Peter Miller Cc: Christopher Schmidt; talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=conservation Peter, Yes, my first post. But just me as a map and outdoors enthusiast. And a warm welcome

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Miller
On 13 Jan 2009, at 15:30, Tim Berners-Lee wrote: Peter, Yes, my first post. But just me as a map and outdoors enthusiast. Not representing W3C. No subtext to my post. Just asking for tag. Welcome (Now landuse=conservation is in mapnik and osmarender, I am more confident we are

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag proposal - leisure=bird_hide

2009-01-13 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/1/13 Erik Johansson e...@kth.se: If it's a bird_hide then tag it as such, if a wildlife_hide the tag it as such, they can coexists. Now I would like to go PETA on you and suggest leisure=arson for the hunting hides.. :-) Related: http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=13739

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Grant Slater
Tim Berners-Lee wrote: What sort of help do you think OSM will need? Money to run servers if the load increases? An existing standards org with facilities and process for the API and the XML format? What was it you had in mind? Yes, the OSM Foundation is badly in need of extra money (or

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.comwrote: Tim Berners-Lee wrote: What sort of help do you think OSM will need? Money to run servers if the load increases? An existing standards org with facilities and process for the API and the XML format? What was

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Hughes
Ian Dees wrote: I think it would be very handy to have a couple database experts that are not attached to OSM and its current setup look at the plans for API 0.6 as a code and design review. I haven't seen much about 0.6 (and I'm not trying to bash the progress that has been made), but I

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Ian Dees wrote: I think it would be very handy to have a couple database experts that are not attached to OSM and its current setup look at the plans for API 0.6 as a code and design review. I haven't seen much about 0.6

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - landuse=conservation

2009-01-13 Thread paul youlten
I was thinking that the conservation tag sounds like something that might be added to Sites of Special Scientific Interest in the UK ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_special_scientific_interest ). These are managed by Natural England... ... and according to the somewhat clunky map at

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Chris Hill
Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu mailto:t...@compton.nu wrote: Ian Dees wrote: I think it would be very handy to have a couple database experts that are not attached to OSM and its current setup look at the plans

[OSM-talk] Readme for Potlatch

2009-01-13 Thread Gert Gremmen
Following the invitations of many of you to contribute in addition to criticisms to Potlatch I decided to start with the help pages. I have added some readme data section to the Potlatch help page, showing some general concepts of OSM necessary for starting.

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Gervase Markham
Tim Berners-Lee wrote: From outside it looks as though the OSM XML format and API are developing in the OSM community in a reasonable way. What sort of help do you think OSM will need? Money to run servers if the load increases? I think that's a current, rather than a future need :-) An

[OSM-talk] NPE maps broken?

2009-01-13 Thread Gervase Markham
http://nick.dev.openstreetmap.org/openpaths/freemap.php?layers=npebbox=-2.5703500,54.4446860,-2.5119329,54.5031031width=500height=500 (This URL was copied and pasted out of an error message spat out by the latest JOSM.) Warning: Division by zero in /var/www/nick/freemap/Map.php on line 15 It

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread brendan barrett
Yeah, because none of us have any idea what we're doing, we're just a bunch of clueless fuckwits that are intent on buggering up everything. I think this was a little harsh. When i'm working on a project, I welcome any input I can get. It doesn't mean I stop doing what i'm doing. It never hurts

Re: [OSM-talk] VDO Dayton PN2050 and OSM

2009-01-13 Thread Daniel Isenmann
Hi Nic, thanks for pointing me into the right direction. I have found out, that it's a lot easier to start external applications on the PN2050. Just copy the application you want to the root directory of your SD card and rename it to vdoservice.exe. Now the application starts on boot. :) I have

[OSM-talk] data import in Belarus

2009-01-13 Thread Sarah Manley
Dear All, I am writing on behalf of someone I met at a LUG meeting I spoke at who is concerned that the data imported for Belarus has a copyright attached to it. I sent him this link:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Tim Berners-Lee wrote: What sort of help do you think OSM will need? Money to run servers if the load increases? An existing standards org with facilities and process for the API and the XML format? What was it

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Hughes
brendan barrett wrote: Yeah, because none of us have any idea what we're doing, we're just a bunch of clueless fuckwits that are intent on buggering up everything. I think this was a little harsh. When i'm working on a project, I welcome any input I can get. It doesn't mean I stop doing

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Tom Hughes
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Grant Slater Yes, the OSM Foundation is badly in need of extra money (or highend hardware) to fund the next round of server hardware upgrades. In most cases we are already close to server capacity. We've also started looking

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
brendan barrett wrote: It never hurts getting others to review things. You don't need to stop development on API 0.6 to do a review. We are IMO too far down the road with API 0.6 to review the _design_. It is, after all, mostly coded: you can check out the API 0.6 branch and use it with JOSM,

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: brendan barrett wrote: Yeah, because none of us have any idea what we're doing, we're just a bunch of clueless fuckwits that are intent on buggering up everything. I think this was a little harsh. When i'm working on a

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread brendan barrett
I'm not going to speculate on the fruits of such an exercise. My point is simply that if someone is willing to do so, then why stop them or belittle their effort. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:19 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: brendan barrett wrote: Yeah, because none of us have any idea

Re: [OSM-talk] Keep Mapnik relevant

2009-01-13 Thread Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists)
Matthias Julius wrote: Maybe it is better to use a namespace like removed:railway=rail; removed=date. This also preserves the type of railway. +1 for namespace prefixes, +0 for removed: though. Some of the usual suspects on #osm have been discussing past: and future: namespaces, the latter

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, brendan barrett wrote: I'm not going to speculate on the fruits of such an exercise. My point is simply that if someone is willing to do so, then why stop them or belittle their effort. True, and API 0.6 has been available for testing and reviewing for a while now. If there is somebody

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Ian Dees
Ok, I give up. Sorry for damaging your egos. I was only trying to answer Tim's question by pointing out a spot where OSM as a whole could be better off in the long run. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Finally, I think that Tim has a right to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] NPE maps broken?

2009-01-13 Thread Thomas Wood
I believe the old WMSplugin used to send coordinates in OSGB36 rather than WGS84? This seems to be what the server side code expects, at least. 2009/1/13 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net:

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread brendan barrett
Perhaps my point hasn't gotten through properly. My intention is merely to convey that this kind of language we're just a bunch of clueless fuckwits that are intent on buggering up everything, does not help someone understand this API 0.6 has been available for testing and reviewing for a while

Re: [OSM-talk] Keep Mapnik relevant

2009-01-13 Thread Ed Loach
And later on, if the building gets used for something else, you could perhaps change it to: shop=candy name=Fred's Wine Gum Emporium former:amenity=pub former:name=The Blue Grape # or old_name former=date # ugh, mabye not Well, it appeals to the stupid, plodding,

[OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] data import in Belarus

2009-01-13 Thread Peter Miller
Begin forwarded message: From: Sarah Manley sa...@cloudmade.com Date: 13 January 2009 21:14:47 GMT To: talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Spam] [OSM-talk] data import in Belarus Dear All, I am writing on behalf of someone I met at a LUG meeting I spoke at who is concerned that the data

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Mikel Maron
OSM in 2009 Took so little time For the lists to get so pissed But mercury is in retrogrades (and I don't believe in that, ok, anyways) Nothing a beer among comrades Wouldn't fix, mighty quick So welcome to all mappers and T B Lee A new year of maps, open and free! -Mikel (I'm not saying that

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:43 PM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: OSM in 2009 Took so little time For the lists to get so pissed But mercury is in retrogrades (and I don't believe in that, ok, anyways) Nothing a beer among comrades Wouldn't fix, mighty quick So welcome to all

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM and Linked Data, and W3C, etc ...

2009-01-13 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/1/14 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com: (I'm not saying that the rest of this thread should be poems, but I think it would help) Sir Tim came along to say hi Some people were not clear on why His aim: conservation But vituperation Makes some folks just want to say bye

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Michal Migurski
Well, one of the reasons is that our beginners' documentation is the weakest part of the whole caboodle. Put yourself in the position of a newbie. You're not sure what to do (as Chris Schmidt observed on #irc, editing topology is hard) - you may not even realise that the roads have to link

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Michal Migurski wrote: I'm looking at replacing MS VEarth imagery in http://oakland.crimespotting.org/crimes with OSM, and I've been working on how to introduce the idea of an editable map to our (non-technical) visitors. OpenStreetBugs offers an obvious pathway in, though my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] 'Fair Use'

2009-01-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Peter Miller wrote: Everything produced in a country that's a signatory to the Berne convention (and that's most countries) is *automatically* copyrighted, so UNOCHA don't need to claim copyright. I am surprised at that. I thought the (c) line on a document was important. AFAIK it

[OSM-talk] Are osm ids unique?

2009-01-13 Thread Nop
Hello! Are the ids of osm objects unique? A) globally unique B) unique only within the type of object, so the same id may occur with a way, a node and a relation. C) unique only within the type of object, but with non-intersecting numbering schemes According to the wiki it is B) [1] In

Re: [OSM-talk] Are osm ids unique?

2009-01-13 Thread D Tucny
2009/1/14 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de Hello! Are the ids of osm objects unique? A) globally unique B) unique only within the type of object, so the same id may occur with a way, a node and a relation. C) unique only within the type of object, but with non-intersecting numbering schemes

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Michal Migurski
I'm looking at replacing MS VEarth imagery in http://oakland.crimespotting.org/crimes with OSM, and I've been working on how to introduce the idea of an editable map to our (non-technical) visitors. OpenStreetBugs offers an obvious pathway in, though my experience observing local

[OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Berlo, L.A.H.M. (Leon) van
Hi all, Met veel enthousiasme maak ik gebruik van OSM (op vele verschillende manieren). De nieuwe speedlayer in de nl-tileserver is érug gaaf. Ik vraag me wel af waarom dat in google projectie is? Waarom niet in RDnew? en is er ergens anders een tileserver/wms-server in RDnew te vinden om OSM

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Maarten Deen
Berlo, L.A.H.M. (Leon) van wrote: Met veel enthousiasme maak ik gebruik van OSM (op vele verschillende manieren). De nieuwe speedlayer in de nl-tileserver is érug gaaf. Ik vraag me wel af waarom dat in google projectie is? Waarom niet in RDnew? en is er ergens anders een

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Berlo, L.A.H.M. (Leon) van
Maarten, Met Google-projectie bedoel ik de mercator project (900913 of 3785). De vraag was: waarom geen 28992? Het is immers een Nederlandse tileserver En dan heb ik het over de voorgerenderde tiles, niet de coordinaten onder in beeld. Groeten, Léon -Original Message- From:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Martijn van Exel
We zouden er best een RD-tileserver naast kunnen zetten lijkt me..Ik weet alleen niet wat dat voor impact heeft op de server - het is 'maar' een virtuele server, zij het dan een vrij krachtige. Maak je trouwens vanuit TNO gebruik van OSM of vanuit privé-hoek? Ik bedoel, als TNO er gebruik

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Berlo, L.A.H.M. (Leon) van
Martijn, Ik maak zowel prive als vanuit TNO gebruik van OSM. Ik sta heel erg open voor samenwerking met OSM. Of dat nou een sponsering van een server is, of vertegenwoordiging/sponsering van state of the map... Wellicht dat we daar buiten de mailinglist nog eens verder over kunnen praten. Met

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Berlo, L.A.H.M. (Leon) van leon.vanbe...@tno.nl wrote: Maarten, Met Google-projectie bedoel ik de mercator project (900913 of 3785). De vraag was: waarom geen 28992? Het is immers een Nederlandse tileserver En dan heb ik het over de voorgerenderde tiles,

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] tileserver in RDnew?

2009-01-13 Thread Gert Gremmen
Vraagje aan Leon van Berlo en Martijn v Oosterhout (en anderen) Ik begrijp wat een projectie is: de methode om een bol oppervlak op een plat vlak weer te geven. Ik weet dat er vele projecties zijn. Wat is precies de relevantie van het type projectie in een digitale kaart ? Zeker als de

Re: [talk-au] New Caledonia slips

2009-01-13 Thread Hugh Barnes
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009 11:11:29 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Hugh Barnes wrote: I just noticed the French Pacific territory of New Caledonia is marked as just off the Queensland coast on the slippy map. I wish! It's at zoom levels 2 to 6:

Re: [talk-au] A couple of routing issues (NSW)

2009-01-13 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Matt White mattwh...@iinet.com.au wrote: Open to suggestions regarding what kind of roads at what zoom, icon usage, and anything else that can be styled. I think lose the X for pedestrian crossings (although this would be good for railway level

Re: [talk-au] A couple of routing issues (NSW)

2009-01-13 Thread Ben Kelley
Hi. On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.comwrote: 3) On one occasion at nuvi startup I got it to calculate a route but then drove off in another direction. Even though the display indicated where I actually was, the spoken direction continued on as though I

Re: [Talk-de] Openlayers + SVG

2009-01-13 Thread Johannes Elsinghorst
Hi, ich dachte daran, die BaseMaps als svg darzustellen, also quasi svg-Tiles zu benutzen. Hat so etwas schon jemand gemacht? Gruß, Johannes Johannes Elsinghorst wrote: Hallo, ist es möglich Openstreetmap-Daten als svg in OpenLayers einzubinden, um so mit hoher DPI-Zahl zu drucken?

Re: [Talk-de] Neues von der Wanderkarte

2009-01-13 Thread Markus
Hallo Karl, danke für Deine differenzierte Antwort zur Gesetzeslage in Bayern! Reiten ist nur da erlaubt, wo die wege geeignet sind und wo auszuschließen ist, dass durch bereiten die wege beschädigt und für andere unpassierbar werden Das ist m.E. die für alle optimale Regelung. Gegenseitige

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Liniendicke

2009-01-13 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Ulf Lamping wrote: Frederik Ramm schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: Aber jetzt mal ehrlich. Meinst du nicht, daß du dich jetzt in der absoluten Minderheit befindest? Ich hab schon so einige JOSMs gesehen, aber kann mich an kein einziges Mal erinnern, wo ich die Wireframe

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Liniendicke

2009-01-13 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Bernd Wurst wrote: Das hat ja gar nichts damit zu tun ob die Unterstützung der Features deine eigene Idee war oder ob du das aufgrund von Bitten anderer eingebaut hast. Du bist im Zweifelsfall der Moderator, das finde ich jetzt offensichtlich und soll auch nicht direkt oder

Re: [Talk-de] Tagging von Places

2009-01-13 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009 11:49:21 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Evtl. sollte man dann noch Tags erfinden, die die Wichtigkeit genauer angeben und dann das Rendering kleiner machen, bzw. je nach Zoomstufe unterdrücken. ja, das sollte unbedingt geloest werden, m.E. aber

[Talk-de] Rendern eines Spielfeldes

2009-01-13 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo zusammen, kann mir jemand sagen, was ich hier falsch mache? So ist es richtig gerendert, man sieht beide Fußballfelder: http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=49.069687825955505lon=12.045638974751668zoom=17layers=BF000F Und hier fehlt ein Fußballfeld:

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Liniendicke

2009-01-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Dirk Stöcker schrieb: On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Ulf Lamping wrote: Frederik Ramm schrieb: Ulf Lamping wrote: Aber jetzt mal ehrlich. Meinst du nicht, daß du dich jetzt in der absoluten Minderheit befindest? Ich hab schon so einige JOSMs gesehen, aber kann mich an kein einziges Mal erinnern, wo

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Liniendicke

2009-01-13 Thread Ulf Lamping
Bernd Wurst schrieb: Hallo. Am Montag, 12. Januar 2009 schrieb Ulf Lamping: Dann solltest du bitte auch genau das sagen und nicht, das die Darstellung ja nur von den Vorlieben des Entwicklers getrieben wird! Dann solltest du meine Postings lesen und nicht nur einen Satz rauspicken. Habe

Re: [Talk-de] Openlayers + SVG

2009-01-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Johannes Elsinghorst wrote: ich dachte daran, die BaseMaps als svg darzustellen, also quasi svg-Tiles zu benutzen. Hat so etwas schon jemand gemacht? Soweit ich weiss, nicht. Tiles und SVG verträgt sich nicht so gut bzw. macht viel Arbeit; alle Objekte, vor allem aber Flächen, müssten

Re: [Talk-de] Rendern eines Spielfeldes

2009-01-13 Thread DarkAngel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR) schrieb: Hallo zusammen, kann mir jemand sagen, was ich hier falsch mache? So ist es richtig gerendert, man sieht beide Fußballfelder:

Re: [Talk-de] Rendern eines Spielfeldes

2009-01-13 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Mario, danke, da hätte ich auch d'aufkommen können! Gruß, Stefan DarkAngel schrieb: Bei dem linken Feld hat eine Begrenzungslinie gefehlt. An der Stelle, wo Fußballfeld und Tennisfeld aneinander grenzen, war nur die Linie des Tennisfeldes. Somit war das Fußballfeld nicht vollständig

Re: [Talk-de] waterway=riverbank aufspalten

2009-01-13 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Sven Anders schrieb: Am Montag, 12. Januar 2009 23:00 schrieb Norbert Kück: Hallo, Sven Anders schrieb: Darf ich einen waterway=riverbank aufspalten? Oder geht dann das Rendering für Osmarender etc. kaput? [...] Allerdings bist du am konkreten Ort in der komfortablen Situation, dass du da

Re: [Talk-de] GPS-Ergebnisse, die vom richtigen Weg abkommen

2009-01-13 Thread Martin Simon
Am 13. Januar 2009 02:56 schrieb Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net: Jan Tappenbeck schrieb TOFU: Garmin GPSMAP 60Cx Dann hilft nur: höher hängen! Ich laufe inzwischen immer mit zwei (im Auto mit drei) GPX-Geräten. Das sorgt dann zwar -wg. der überlappenden Timestamps- für ziemlich komisch

[Talk-de] Anregung für zukünftige Datenimport e und spezielle Fuktionalitäten

2009-01-13 Thread Sven Sommerkamp
Vielleicht wäre es eine Idee, wenn man Daten die man in OSM importieren möchte auf einen speziellen Server oder Serverbereich ablegt und dann in seinem Editor diese Daten als zusätzlichen Layer anzeigen kann. Wenn alles am selben Ort liegt und mitgeladen wird, führt das leicht zu Verwirrung.

Re: [Talk-de] Anregung für zukünftige Datenimport e und spezielle Fuktionalitäten

2009-01-13 Thread Wolfgang W. Wasserburger
Vielleicht wäre es eine Idee, wenn man Daten die man in OSM importieren möchte auf einen speziellen Server oder Serverbereich ablegt und dann in seinem Editor diese Daten als zusätzlichen Layer anzeigen kann. Wenn alles am selben Ort liegt und mitgeladen wird, führt das leicht zu

Re: [Talk-de] Linienbündel -- Vorschlag lane_group

2009-01-13 Thread Mario Salvini
Martin Koppenhoefer schrieb: sorry, dass ich mir selbst antworte, aber ich finde das Beispiel einfach zu gut, die Absurditaet aufzudecken, die m.E. in Konsequenz aus dem reinen tagging folgen wuerde.

Re: [Talk-de] Bundesstraße mit 2 Straßennummern

2009-01-13 Thread Mario Salvini
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: Moin ! bei uns gibt es eine Straße die zu zwei unterschiedlichen Bundesstraßen gehört ! Zweimal REF verwenden oder wie würdet Ihr das handhaben ?? Gruß Jan :-) stehen bei auch auch 2-a-lei referenzschilder am Straßenrand? Es passiert sehr oft, das die ein oder

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM Liniendicke

2009-01-13 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am Dienstag, 13. Januar 2009 schrieb Ulf Lamping: Wireframe ist was für Leute, die wissen was sie tun. Na ja, dann weiß ich halt nicht was ich tu ;-) Klassische Fehlinterpretation meiner Aussage. Ich habe nicht gesagt dass automatisch jeder der weiß was er tut unbedingt Wireframe

Re: [Talk-de] Inseln korrekt mappen: Wieder einmal Relationen ...

2009-01-13 Thread Sebastian Niehaus
Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de writes: [...] Die Information wird vollständig durch einen mit natural=scrub getaggten inner-Way vermittelt, und diese Vorgehensweise wird auch von der Dokumentation im Wiki unterstützt. (If the inner way represents something in itself (e.g. a forest with a

Re: [Talk-de] Neues von der Wanderkarte

2009-01-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Was übrigens sehr interessant ist und kaum jemand bewußt: Die §§22-26 regeln das Betretungsrecht für Wald und Flur sowohl für Reiter als auch für Fahrradfahrer in einem Zug. Das heißt man kann kurz zusammenfassen: ... 2. Ohne Schilder: Wenn Du auf einem Weg mit Deinem Trecking/Mountainbike

[Talk-de] Brücken- und Tunnelnamen

2009-01-13 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin ! wir diskutieren gerade darüber wie es sich mit Tunnel- bzw. Brückennamen verhält. Eine Straße hat das Tag NAME welche in der Regel den Namen der Straße bekommt - z.b. Autovía del Mediterráneo Jetzt wird diese Trasse von benannten Brücken und Tunnel durchzogen die allesamt eigene

Re: [Talk-de] Brücken- und Tunnelnamen

2009-01-13 Thread Stefan Dettenhofer (StefanDausR)
Hallo Jan, ich denke, das kommt darauf an, was man als Ergebnis haben will: Auf der Karte soll doch der Name der Brücke stehen und im Navi will ich auch diesen angezeigt haben. Daher spricht meinerseits nichts dagegen, diesen in NAME zu schreiben. Der Weg muss so und so aufgeteilt werden.

Re: [Talk-de] Anregung für zukünftige Datenimport e und spezielle Fuktionalitäten

2009-01-13 Thread Roland Spielhofer
Sven Sommerkamp schrieb: Vielleicht wäre es eine Idee, wenn man Daten die man in OSM importieren möchte auf einen speziellen Server oder Serverbereich ablegt und dann in seinem Editor diese Daten als zusätzlichen Layer anzeigen kann. Wenn alles am selben Ort liegt und mitgeladen wird,

Re: [Talk-de] Brücken- und Tunnelnamen

2009-01-13 Thread Marc Schütz
wir diskutieren gerade darüber wie es sich mit Tunnel- bzw. Brückennamen verhält. Eine Straße hat das Tag NAME welche in der Regel den Namen der Straße bekommt - z.b. Autovía del Mediterráneo Jetzt wird diese Trasse von benannten Brücken und Tunnel durchzogen die allesamt eigene Namen

Re: [Talk-de] Brücken- und Tunnelnamen

2009-01-13 Thread Andreas Labres
Jan Tappenbeck wrote: Wenn jetzt das Tag NAME den Namen des Tunnels bekommt ist das unsauber, da die dort entlang führende Straße immer noch Autovía del Mediterráneo heißt In Wien wird der Straßenname durch Plätze, Brücken, Unterführungen o.ä. unterbrochen. Und es gibt dann durchaus

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