[talk-ph] Capas, Tarlac Coverage

2009-02-17 Thread maning sambale
Hi, This concerns me: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.35855lon=120.53538zoom=16layers=B000FTF See screenshot: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3289629754_381c35989a_b.jpg Upper left - OSM Map Upper right - same are over merkaator with the existing yahoo image (no high-res yahoo image)

Re: [talk-ph] First Philippine mapping party

2009-02-17 Thread maning sambale
Eugene - not Feb 28 Michael Cole - March 14 Maning - March 7 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: March 14 regards On Monday 16 February 2009 19:28:05 maning sambale wrote: So there's: maning, eugene, mike cole and YOU! Please vote for

Re: [talk-ph] Capas, Tarlac Coverage

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Cole
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 11:38:40 maning sambale wrote: Hi, This concerns me: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=15.35855lon=120.53538zoom=16layers=B00 0FTF See screenshot: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/3289629754_381c35989a_b.jpg Upper left - OSM Map Upper right - same are

Re: [talk-ph] Capas, Tarlac Coverage

2009-02-17 Thread maning sambale
I've sent the mapper a message via the osm messaging on another topic, but got no reply so far. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 11:38:40 maning sambale wrote: Hi, This concerns me:

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread SteveC
On 17 Feb 2009, at 00:18, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: As you both know several years of work went in to that blog, and not just by me. Maybe you should both think twice before dismissing it all. It would help if, instead of * singling out participants (you both), *

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] NHD Dataset

2009-02-17 Thread Patrick Kilian
Hi all, Mapnik already support this,see: http://openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/24849/ But production osmarender not yet: http://openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.6758lon=15.9996zoom=12layers=0B00FTF What's the problem with osmarender patch? The problem is that neither bobkare nor I really can

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:18 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Because 80n knows the answers Frederik, this is called politics. But I, and many others, don't know the answer. I was asking a question. - Gustav ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Beta testers required for new Windows Mobile OSM Client

2009-02-17 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/2/12 George Styles geo...@ripnet.co.uk: At the moment its simply freeware. I want to GPL it, but need to open a sourceforge account etc etc, and havent had time yet... If you just need a place for source version control, you can request an OSM SVN account and use that as a repository for

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net wrote: Andy Allan wrote: And every time using :left and :right comes up, we all have a big discussion about it and then nobody pays any attention and it comes up again a few months later. Perhaps this is because the

[OSM-talk] Intermittent rendering of multipolygons for buildings

2009-02-17 Thread Dan Karran
I'm trying to render some buildings with holes in and using multipolygon relations to do it, but they don't always render. See, for example Whitehall[1], where the HMRC/Treasury building is rendered with its holes but the Foreign Office building to the north of it doesn't have its multiple holes

Re: [OSM-talk] Splitting Long Ways/Polygons

2009-02-17 Thread marcus.wolschon
On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:50:07 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: For long waterways, it is absoutely usual to split them into a number of ways of manageable size (think not only of the API limit but of someone downloading an area touched by the river in JOSM!). Optionally, use

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread 80n
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:18 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 17 Feb 2009, at 00:18, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: As you both know several years of work went in to that blog, and not just by me. Maybe you should both think twice before dismissing it all. It

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread David Earl
On 17/02/2009 10:36, Andy Allan wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net wrote: Andy Allan wrote: And every time using :left and :right comes up, we all have a big discussion about it and then nobody pays any attention and it comes up again a few

Re: [OSM-talk] Intermittent rendering of multipolygons for buildings

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Dan Karran schrieb: I'm trying to render some buildings with holes in and using multipolygon relations to do it, but they don't always render. See, for example Whitehall[1], where the HMRC/Treasury building is rendered with its holes but the Foreign Office building to the north of it doesn't

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Regarding http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/left_name , Andy Allan wrote: And nobody pays attention. Probably as a result of there being no software support (because nobody paid attention...), and because it's historically been a comparatively rare use case. Though I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Tim Waters (chippy)
A few points to throw in the mix: * Do we have people who want to write a blog for the project as a whole? - Blogging requires quite a bit of commitment, especially for such a fast moving project, if things get busy elsewhere, the blogs tend to suffer. * Assuming we have enough people

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/17 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net wrote: Andy Allan wrote: And every time using :left and :right comes up, we all have a big discussion about it and then nobody pays any attention and it comes up again a few

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/2/16 Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net: Andy Allan wrote: And every time using :left and :right comes up, we all have a big discussion about it and then nobody pays any attention and it comes up again a few months later. Perhaps this is because the concept leftright is so simple -

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Having thought about this a bit overnight I personally feel that the project should have an OSM specific blog that gets used for OSM community announcements, worthy news items and OSMF announcements. Announcements are easy as they report fact and it's just a matter of deciding if the announcement

Re: [OSM-talk] Intermittent rendering of multipolygons for buildings

2009-02-17 Thread Michael
I'm trying to render some buildings with holes in and using multipolygon relations to do it, but they don't always render. See, for example Whitehall[1], where the HMRC/Treasury building is rendered with its holes but the Foreign Office building to the north of it doesn't have its multiple

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread SteveC
Yes and at the board meeting we should talk about osmf just owning the ogd site. Ogd has great traffic and ranking and id suggest not throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Having thought about this a bit overnight I

Re: [OSM-talk] Intermittent rendering of multipolygons for buildings

2009-02-17 Thread Michael
nor does the smaller building to the east of this which only has one inner and one outer part. The smaller building has an error in the outer part (double node at the top left outer corner). This probably causes the error in not displaying the inner hole. Cheers, Michael [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Dave Stubbs wrote: The only way of avoiding this issue in some non-confusing way is to not use tagging as the answer. Some complex relation with a this side member which still needs editor support. Or just adding another way to the database for each left/right feature, which becomes hard

Re: [OSM-talk] Intermittent rendering of multipolygons for buildings

2009-02-17 Thread Dan Karran
2009/2/17 Michael Telgkamp michael.telgk...@gmail.com: nor does the smaller building to the east of this which only has one inner and one outer part. The smaller building has an error in the outer part (double node at the top left outer corner). This probably causes the error in not

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Ed Loach
Editor support is less important - and far easier to fix - than explaining to all the people who don't even realise that all roads have a direction in openstreetmap - and except for oneway roads, I have no idea which ways are pointing in which directions, and it shouldn't be important

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Bernd Raichle
On Tuesday, 17 February 2009 10:36:16 +, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com writes: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Norbert Hoffmann nhoffm...@spamfence.net wrote: Andy Allan wrote: And every time using :left and :right comes up, we all have a big discussion about it and then

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Norbert Hoffmann
Andy Allan wrote: And nobody pays attention. The main problem is that two-way roads have no inherent, real-world, direction - neither side of the road is the right or the left. Or rather, both sides of the road are the right or the left, depending on which way you are facing. And that's why in

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Mike Harris
While sympathetic to the underlying need being discussed in this thread, I suspect there is a further problem. Although a way has an intrinsic sense in OSM, this is fairly volatile! All it needs is someone to reverse a way - and this can happen rather easily, say, when combining two ways with the

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread OJ W
In my original post, I hadn't realised that blog links tended to be only official project announcements. I assumed that blog would show all the stuff which is happening in the OSM project, in a community-led way that reflects the wiki-like nature of the project. However, the OSM front page seems

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Mike Harris wrote: While sympathetic to the underlying need being discussed in this thread, I suspect there is a further problem. Although a way has an intrinsic sense in OSM, this is fairly volatile! All it needs is someone to reverse a way - and this can happen rather easily, say, when

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Tom Hughes
OJ W wrote: p.s. how come the OSM front page doesn't contain a link to the foundation website? Hysterical Raisins. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://www.compton.nu/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread OJ W
and how come sidebars on the map can be opened by: * clicking on one of the external links (map key) * selecting a map layer (data viewer) * selecting a tab (export) * submitting a form (search) it seems we like to give people a nice surprise when they use certain UI elements, different to what

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Tom Hughes
OJ W wrote: and how come sidebars on the map can be opened by: * clicking on one of the external links (map key) * selecting a map layer (data viewer) * selecting a tab (export) * submitting a form (search) Because those are the things which need them? Tom -- Tom Hughes

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymme trical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists andrewc-email-lists at piffle.org writes: Further to Tobias's raising of :mode, :wet, :direction etc. for pseudovoting, I'd like to raise a general method for tagging properties of the two sides of the road:

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Mike Harris
Much encouraged that there is a coder (?) view that it's pretty simple to implement automated left /right tag reversal if a way is reversed (and I assume the main renderers are sense-aware where ways are concerned?). This was my main concern and if this is generally agreed to be the case I'll

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Andrew Chadwick (mailing lists andrewc-email-lists at piffle.org writes: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/right_left The proposal suggests an interpretation of suffixes like property:left=value property:right=value I see one big trouble.

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreet map.or g?

2009-02-17 Thread Tom Chance
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:50:04 +, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: OJ W wrote: and how come sidebars on the map can be opened by: * clicking on one of the external links (map key) * selecting a map layer (data viewer) * selecting a tab (export) * submitting a form (search) Because

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Tom Hughes
Tom Chance wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:50:04 +, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: OJ W wrote: and how come sidebars on the map can be opened by: * clicking on one of the external links (map key) * selecting a map layer (data viewer) * selecting a tab (export) * submitting a form

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Matthias Julius
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk writes: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: So, we have a pile of good intentioned legacy here. OGD carries posts on all sorts of open geo data stuff in the early days (Aug 2004) including the most important one http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=2 relating to

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:41 PM, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: Equally permalink is a fairly standard name for that concept now, even though (originally at least) it clearly wasn't something that most people could be expected to know. I get complaints about the lack of permalink on

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Ed Loach
I see one big trouble. If not so clever editor (program or human being) is changing the direction of the road withour swapping left/right keys, nobody can correct the situation without local knowlegde of the area mapped. Left or right are not enough by themselves but there must be some

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Jonas Krückel (John07)
Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) schrieb: Having thought about this a bit overnight I personally feel that the project should have an OSM specific blog that gets used for OSM community announcements, worthy news items and OSMF announcements. Announcements are easy as they report fact and it's

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:02 AM, 80n wrote: Steve, I don't normally write rhetorical questions, its not my usual writing style, so I'm sure you misread my post and responded impulsively. But, perhaps you can provide some ideas or suggestions about how to make it clearer what each blog

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Regarding http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/right_left , Ed Loach wrote: As I understand it (from last time this discussion cropped up here) JOSM and Potlatch already handle the reversals of :left and :right tags, which covers most users. This is not the case with either

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] NHD Dataset

2009-02-17 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: There really is not much other choice, as areas grow larger and the old idea of simply drawing touching polygons relies on a rendering style without a casing around the polygon. Yep, please avoid making one polygon by

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Andrew Chadwick (email lists)
Mike Harris wrote: Much encouraged that there is a coder (?) Well, coder of a sort. It certainly would help if the suffixes were generally well known, documented and consistent so that if something has a :left on the end of it, software doing reversals knows that it should flip it to a :right

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Ed Loach
This is not the case with either JOSM 1318 or JOSM 1418 (the current josm-latest.jar). I've tested with cycleway:left=track as well as foo:left=42. Probably this would need to be raised as a separate bug if people express general satisfaction. Can't speak for Potla(t)ch, not tried. I

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Ed Loach
This is not the case with either JOSM 1318 or JOSM 1418 (the current josm-latest.jar). I've tested with cycleway:left=track as well as foo:left=42. Probably this would need to be raised as a separate bug if people express general satisfaction. Actually, I've now checked the source, and it

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Mike Harris wrote: Reversing the ways then, of course, reverses the 'left' and 'right' descriptors with their differing tags! Well, of course. I would expect that all editors would rename right - left and left - right when a way is reversed. Don't they do

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Maritime borders - Voting - (boundary=maritime)

2009-02-17 Thread Gustav Foseid
After discussions on both the mailing list and the wiki we (that is myself and Skippern) have opened the proposed boundary=maritime for voting at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maritime_borders We think this is the best way suggested to tag the whole hiearchy of maritime borders, in a way

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of maritime borders

2009-02-17 Thread Gustav Foseid
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 10:32 PM, Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com wrote: I would suggest that maritime borders are not tagged the same way as land borders. Should we have a new tag for maritime borders? Stop tagging them? Ignore the problem? The proposal authored by Aun (Skippern) is now

[OSM-talk] OSM wiki local copy

2009-02-17 Thread Igor Shubovych
Hello all, My friend asked me this question: Does anybody know how to download the local copy of OSM wiki? For instance, Wikipedia guys do provide DB dumps ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_database) but i've found no such thing on wiki.openstreetmap.org . I've failed with Wget -

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Dave Stubbs
Oneway is strange in that as well as yes/no you can have oneway=-1 for one way in the opposite direction of the way, and I still can't work out why that is necessary. Because none of the editors had a reverse way tool :-). I think JOSM could reverse a segment, but that's was about it.

[OSM-talk] Oxford/Cotswolds mailing list

2009-02-17 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Oxford, Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds have as many mappers as anywhere in Britain, and such things as Mapnik, Potlatch and npemap.org.uk hail from our county - but we didn't have a mailing list. Now Mike Collinson has kindly set one up. The address is

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Marketplace

2009-02-17 Thread Aun Johnsen (via Webmail)
Hi I have written a proposal for Marketplace, a regulated area outdoor (or indoor) for trade of various commodities. I have used a couple of days in Draft, but have decided to push the proposal forward to RFC, and if there are few suggestions to improvements I will open it for vote in a couple of

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:45:00PM -, Ed Loach wrote: Oneway is strange in that as well as yes/no you can have oneway=-1 for one way in the opposite direction of the way, and I still can't work out why that is necessary. It used to be the case that the renderers wrote the name of the

Re: [OSM-talk] News blog link - to blogs.openstreetmap.org?

2009-02-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:48:17AM -, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Having thought about this a bit overnight I personally feel that the project should have an OSM specific blog that gets used for OSM community announcements, worthy news items and OSMF announcements. This could

[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Translator

2009-02-17 Thread osmtransla...@polygongis.com
Hi All, The latest beta version of OpenStreetMap Translator is now available from http://www http://www.polygongis.com.polygongis.com http://www.polygongis.com. This version includes shp file export and data filtering. We would appreciate it if you could try this application out and let us

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 07:51:12PM +, Dave Stubbs wrote: Oneway is strange in that as well as yes/no you can have oneway=-1 for one way in the opposite direction of the way, and I still can't work out why that is necessary. Because none of the editors had a reverse way tool :-). I

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle Map layer

2009-02-17 Thread Matt Toups
Dave Stubbs wrote: 2009/2/9 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk: Where does the Cycle Map get it's coastlines from? I happened to notice that some of the paths I mapped along the sea front near here, which required some adjustment to the coastline, have let to Mapnik and Osmarender layers having

[OSM-talk] Large OSM globe style images

2009-02-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, this is probably a niche application but I have just played around a bit with the aim to create large (as in 5000x5000 pixel or bigger) globe-shaped images with ti...@home tiles. On a whole-world level, ti...@home tiles give a better impression of where we have something than the

[OSM-talk] Adding architect names to buildings

2009-02-17 Thread Frankie Roberto
Hi all, I've started adding architects names to buildings in Manchester (based on a combination of local history sources and Wikipedia), and so thought I'd better document the tag I'm using in case others want to do the same: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:architect The only problem I

[OSM-talk] Parcel Data in OSM?

2009-02-17 Thread Christopher Schmidt
Hi, Many city governments in Massachusetts publish their parcel (lot) data for free reuse, either individually or through MassGIS. This data is appropriately licensed for re-use in OSM, and is informative -- in most cases, it has addresses which can be used for geocoding. I'm curious as to

Re: [OSM-talk] Parcel Data in OSM?

2009-02-17 Thread Ian Dees
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Christopher Schmidt crschm...@metacarta.com wrote: Hi, Many city governments in Massachusetts publish their parcel (lot) data for free reuse, either individually or through MassGIS. In my quest to find free data to import in the US, I discovered that parcel

Re: [OSM-talk] Parcel Data in OSM?

2009-02-17 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
Property boundaries are definitely something that belongs in OSM, it's just boundary=administrative at a different level. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Parcel Data in OSM?

2009-02-17 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Christopher Schmidt crschm...@metacarta.com wrote: Hi, Many city governments in Massachusetts publish their parcel (lot) data for free reuse, either individually or through MassGIS. This data is appropriately licensed for re-use in OSM, and is informative --

Re: [OSM-talk] Parcel Data in OSM?

2009-02-17 Thread Russ Nelson
On Feb 17, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Christopher Schmidt wrote: cases, it has addresses which can be used for geocoding For completely unrelated reasons (I was searching for an unfinished railroad and was looking to see if it existed in any property lines) (no, it didn't) (sigh) I had a copy of

Re: [OSM-talk] Large OSM globe style images

2009-02-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Maarten Deen wrote: That's nice! And now 360 pictures, all one degree rotated and a nice java application that you can rotate the globe. Oh, you need images for rotation around the poles too. I guess this is not something that can be rendered realtime? Well, the ti...@home tile creation

Re: [OSM-talk] parcel data in OSM

2009-02-17 Thread Sam Vekemans
Hi, ya, its certainly worth creating a tag proposal page for it. I would (imo) would like to see it only rendered when zooming in real close. Some other renderer might want to see it at a different zoom. When buying a house, you should know what land your getting :) p.s. I think a variation of

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dShapes voor OpenStreetMaps-NL

2009-02-17 Thread Stefan de Konink
Stefan de Konink wrote: Als NC hebben we er als OSM helaas niets aan. Dus denk er eens over na of BY-SA genoeg juridische en promotionele waarde kan bieden :) Maarten Hilferink wrote: Nav je opmerking over NC voorwaarden, heb ik besloten per 01-03-2009 de 3dShapes databank onder

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] 3dShapes voor OpenStreetMaps-NL

2009-02-17 Thread Frank Steggink
Dat zou inderdaad geweldig zijn, als vaststaat dat 3D shapes niet als een afgeleid werk wordt gezien van Top10NL en het AHN. Ik kijk liever eerst de kat uit de boom... Frank Stefan de Konink wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: Als NC hebben we er als OSM helaas niets aan. Dus denk er eens over

Re: [talk-au] Suburb boundaries - getting close

2009-02-17 Thread Sam Couter
BlueMM bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote: I also like Jack's suggestion on name old_name, plus the is_in tag. +1 for the is_in tag from me, definitely with , Australia appended. My reasons are pretty selfish - My choice of GPS software is Navit and it requires the is_in tag to search for towns.

Re: [Talk-de] Welche Straßen fehlen noch in Erfurt ?

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Buchberger
Hallo Holger, ich würde gern mal wissen welche Straßen in Erfurt noch fehlen. Dazu gibt es ja irgendwie eine Möglichkeit das herauszubekommen. Ich habe aber absolut keine Ahnung wie das geht. Im Netz gibt es ein Tool mit dem man eine Liste der vorhandenen OSM Straßen generieren kann:

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradkarte für Garmin?

2009-02-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Frank Huebner hf...@arcormail.de wrote: Habt ihr andere Ideen? Ich hätte gerne was routingfähiges um ehrlich zu sein. Für kurze Touren und wenns anfängt zu regnen. Routing zum nächsten amenity=shelter :) Am besten von ganz Deutschland und einige Kilometer ins benachbarte Ausland rein. Keine

[Talk-de] NSG - NP - NLP

2009-02-17 Thread Alexander Schulze
Hallo, ich hätte mal ne Frage zu Naturschutzgebiet, Naturpark, Nationalpark. Laut MapFeatures kann man ja das NSG als leisure=nature_reserve bzw. als boundary=national_park (gleichzeitig für Nationalpark) rendern. Warum ist der boundary-tag für beide, sind doch ziemlich verschiedene Sachen?

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder aus Bayern - Halbzeit

2009-02-17 Thread Sven Geggus
Hermann Kraus h...@scribus.info wrote: Wandinger: 'Bei weiteren Kooperationen würden wir natürlich Lizenz-Gebühren verlangen.' ROTFL! Das Projekt wäre natürlich ganz bestimmt bereit diese zu bezahlen. OpenStreetMap aber verspricht auf seiner Homepage: 'Unsere Daten sind frei und werden es

Re: [Talk-de] Fahrradkarte für Garmin?

2009-02-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 17. Februar 2009 10:28 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de: Frank Huebner hf...@arcormail.de wrote: Habt ihr andere Ideen? Ich hätte gerne was routingfähiges um ehrlich zu sein. Für kurze Touren und wenns anfängt zu regnen. Routing zum nächsten amenity=shelter :) ja, das

Re: [Talk-de] Gebäude durchsichtig rendern

2009-02-17 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 16. Februar 2009 02:16 schrieb Johann H. Addicks addi...@gmx.net: Die einen zählen reale Stockwerke (Straße über Tunnel, unter Brücke), das ist ja auch, wie es gedacht ist, sind topologische Stockwerke, also ist ueber/unter für andere reicht ein Belang (Tennisplatz auf Freizeitgelände) und

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder aus Bayern - Halbzeit

2009-02-17 Thread Andreas Fritsche
Hi, From: Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de [..] Ich frage mich warum die Daten ?berhaupt k?nstlich runterskaliert wurden. In der Originalaufl?sung w?re das abzeichnen von H?usern m?glich gewesen! [..] vielleicht darum!? /Andreas ___

Re: [Talk-de] NSG - NP - NLP

2009-02-17 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Kleine Frage zum Betreff: Was tut der Notlandeplatz in der Aufstellung von Naturreservaten? Ich vermute mal, dass diese inzwischen zumindest in Deutschland nicht nur abandonned sind, sondern auch sämtlicherweise rückgebaut wurden und daher auch das Rendering der Autobahnen nicht dadurch

Re: [Talk-de] NSG - NP - NLP

2009-02-17 Thread Alexander Schulze
Hi, Kleine Frage zum Betreff: Was tut der Notlandeplatz in der Aufstellung von Naturreservaten? naja, laut meiner Karte ist das die Abkürzung für Nationalpark. Im ersten Satz meiner mail hab ich die 4 Abkürzungen ja auch ausgeschrieben ;-) schönen Gruß Alex

Re: [Talk-de] Höhennetz/Höhendatenbank

2009-02-17 Thread Dr. Franz-Josef Behr
Tobias, danke für Deine Klarstellung! Es ging mir darum, ob man die Erdoberfläche *oder* die Erdoberfläche inklusive aller auf der Erdoberfläche befindlichen Objekte haben möchte. Ich denke, Kunstobjekte (Bauwerke...) sollten eher vermieden werden. OpenDEM.org wäre dann sicher besser. Gruß

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Johann H. Addicks schrieb: Was der Autor einfordert ist jedoch eine Generalisierung. Und das wird nicht einfach. Neben Entwicklungsaufwand für einen zweiten Pass wird es vermutlich riesige Regelsetze brauchen, um Kriterien für zuträgliche Element-Dichten im Umkreis von zu bestimmen und zudem

Re: [Talk-de] Bitmap-Karte offline kalibrieren?

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Mir faellt ein, dass die aktuellste (eventuell Beta-) Version von QGIS einen OSM-Editor als Plugin haben soll. Dann kannst Du Dir sogar den JOSM sparen ,-) Ach, ehrlich? *runterlad* ___ Talk-de mailing list

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder aus Bayern - Halbzeit

2009-02-17 Thread Markus
Hallo Sven, Lizenzgebühren für die Nutzung der Luftbilder Luftbilder wurden bisher nur gegen Lizenzgebühr zur Nutzung abgegeben. Im Pilotprojekt soll geprüft werden, ob die freie Nutzung von DOP-2m künftig ermöglicht werden soll. Die (ungeschickte) Formulierung der Presseabteilung wird gerade

Re: [Talk-de] Höhennetz/Höhendatenbank

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo DrFrJoBe, Dr. Franz-Josef Behr schrieb: Es ging mir darum, ob man die Erdoberfläche *oder* die Erdoberfläche inklusive aller auf der Erdoberfläche befindlichen Objekte haben möchte. Ich denke, Kunstobjekte (Bauwerke...) sollten eher vermieden werden. OpenDEM.org wäre dann sicher

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Was der Autor einfordert ist jedoch eine Generalisierung. Und das wird nicht einfach. Neben Entwicklungsaufwand für einen zweiten Pass wird es vermutlich riesige Regelsetze brauchen, um Kriterien für zuträgliche Element-Dichten im Umkreis von zu bestimmen und

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Frederik Ramm schrieb: Tobias hat recht; ^ Dööt Dööt Dööt Dööt. Man kann PostGIS die problemlos Generalisierung rauslocken, was das Kartographiebild massiv verschönern würde, Wuerde ich so nicht unterschreiben; erstens ganz gewiss nicht problemlos, zweitens vermute ich,

[Talk-de] Access: Unbefugter Aufenthalt nicht erlaubt

2009-02-17 Thread Johann H. Addicks
Wer eine inzwischen etwas längere Diskussion um die Beschilderung von Straßen durch nicht umfriedete Hafenbereiche nachlesen möchte: http://de.wikipedia.org/w/ index.php?title=Wikipedia:Auskunft#Unbefugter_Aufenthalt_nicht_erlaubt. (kurz: http://tinyurl.com/bfs967 ) Frage hier: access=private

Re: [Talk-de] Höhennetz/Höhendatenbank

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Tobias Wendorff schrieb: OpenDEM.org wäre dann sicher besser. Das sehe ich genauso, denn die Kunstobjekte haben wir ja schon in OSM. Nein, moment ... dann wäre es ja doch DTM, also openDTM.org?! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] Tiny Wiki URL?

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Hallo Community, wäre es möglich, unserem Wiki einen URL-Service beizubringen? eine Art: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/?id=1234 mit Weiterleitung zum richtigen Artikel, z.B. .../index.php/Georeferenzierung So könnte man an bestimmten Nodes einfach etwas kurzes drantaggen: note:wiki_id = 1234

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Dirk Stöcker schrieb: Das wird aber nicht automatisiert erstellt. Wenn ich die Vorgehensweise richtig verstanden habe basiert die Erstellung der Karten auf zwei Datensätzen. Einmal der reinen Geometrie und einmal den Render-Hints. Diese Render-Hints wollen wir ja nicht in der Datenbank...

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Dirk Stöcker schrieb: Das wird aber nicht automatisiert erstellt. Wenn ich die Vorgehensweise richtig verstanden habe basiert die Erstellung der Karten auf zwei Datensätzen. Einmal der reinen Geometrie und einmal den Render-Hints. Diese

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Man kann PostGIS die problemlos Generalisierung rauslocken, was das Kartographiebild massiv verschönern würde, Wuerde ich so nicht unterschreiben; erstens ganz gewiss nicht problemlos, zweitens vermute ich, dass eine gute Generalisierung niemals

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Dirk Stöcker schrieb: Warum wollen wir die nicht? Die Render-Fixes wollen wir nicht. Aber Hints halte ich schon für sinnvoll. Ich bin mir ganz sicher, dass ich für sowas in meinen OSM-Anfängen häufig kritisiert wurde, weil ein Hint nichts mit den eigentlichen Geodaten zu tun hat. Statt

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Michael Buege
Zitat Tobias Wendorff: Dirk Stöcker schrieb: [...]. Nur muss auch dafür OSM noch viel lernen. Erstmal sollten wir die Grunddaten erfassen. Salami-Taktik also? Erste Welle zeichnet die Straßen ein, zweite Welle die Hausnummern, dritte Welle die Rendering-Hints? Genau so. Anders wird es

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Dirk Stöcker schrieb: Warum wollen wir die nicht? Die Render-Fixes wollen wir nicht. Aber Hints halte ich schon für sinnvoll. Ich bin mir ganz sicher, dass ich für sowas in meinen OSM-Anfängen häufig kritisiert wurde, weil ein Hint nichts mit den

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Tobias Wendorff
Michael Buege schrieb: weil die Chance sehr gering sein kann, dass jemandem auffällt, dass etwas fehlt. -v bitte Ach, die Straße ist bei OSM ja schon drin; da muss ich nicht mehr hin. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Kartenkritik an OpenStreetMap mit Fokus auf die Schweiz

2009-02-17 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Dirk Stöcker schrieb: Warum wollen wir die nicht? Die Render-Fixes wollen wir nicht. Aber Hints halte ich schon für sinnvoll. Ich bin mir ganz sicher, dass ich für sowas in meinen OSM-Anfängen häufig kritisiert wurde, weil ein Hint nichts mit den eigentlichen

Re: [Talk-de] Luftbilder aus Bayern - Halbzeit

2009-02-17 Thread André Reichelt
Andreas Fritsche schrieb: From: Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de [..] Ich frage mich warum die Daten ?berhaupt k?nstlich runterskaliert wurden. In der Originalaufl?sung w?re das abzeichnen von H?usern m?glich gewesen! [..] vielleicht darum!? Das würde keinen Sinn ergeben. Uns

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