Re: [Talk-vi] BẢN ĐỒ OSM GHI QUẦN ĐẢO HOÀNG SA LÀ SANSHA CỦA TRUNG QUỐC

2012-12-31 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào 2012-12-28 11:01 PM, Khánh Lê viết: Trích thư của anh Tuệ Huỳnh (quangtue_hu...@yahoo.com mailto:quangtue_hu...@yahoo.com): Xin chào anh Khánh, Hôm nay mình lên bản đồ của OSM trên http://www.openstreetmap.vn/ thì thấy quần đảo Hoàng Sa chỉ có tên Việt khi zoom vào, còn bình

[OSM-talk] Cool uses of OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Maarten Deen
I was using a train from the Erzgebirgsbahn in Germany yesterday (Annaberg-Buchholz - Chemnitz) when I noticed the information display. This was an OSM background on which the trains from the Erzgebirgsbahn were overlayed. I took a few photos but I now also see that they have an internet

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-31 Thread Gehling Marc
Hi, Am 30.12.2012 um 22:53 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they should be awarded a prize! A further ~ 1400 have done between 1k and 10k numbers,

Re: [OSM-talk] House Numbers

2012-12-31 Thread Ed Loach
According to this list, 208 accounts have added more than 10k house numbers - if any one of them has actually surveyed that many houses they should be awarded a prize! While I'm surprised that my entry is as high as it is, it is entirely possible that I've added almost 40,000 house numbers

Re: [OSM-talk] Cool uses of OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Gehling Marc
Hi, yes, that's cool. see http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2012/12/wochennotiz-nr-126/ Marc Am 31.12.2012 um 08:59 schrieb Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl: I was using a train from the Erzgebirgsbahn in Germany yesterday (Annaberg-Buchholz - Chemnitz) when I noticed the information display. This

Re: [OSM-talk] Cool uses of OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Russ Nelson
Maarten Deen writes: I was using a train from the Erzgebirgsbahn in Germany yesterday (Annaberg-Buchholz - Chemnitz) when I noticed the information display. This was an OSM background on which the trains from the Erzgebirgsbahn were overlayed. I took a few photos but I now also see that

[Talk-br] Tag estradas que cortam rios

2012-12-31 Thread Claiton Neisse
Boa tarde pessoal. Gostaria de saber quais tags atribuir a trechos de estradas que passam por dentro do leito natural de um rio, sem nenhum tipo de estrutura construída pelo homem. Além disso, gostaria de saber quais tags atribuir a uma laje de concreto construída dentro do leito de um rio

Re: [Talk-br] Tag estradas que cortam rios

2012-12-31 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
Boatarde Como eu saber o cruzamento do um rio e um estrada, onde nao ha ponte, e um nó com highway=ford, ou um trecho do highway com ford=yes Aun Johnsen On 31. des. 2012, at 14:10, Claiton Neisse claiton.nei...@gmail.com wrote: Boa tarde pessoal. Gostaria de saber quais tags atribuir a

Re: [Talk-br] Tag estradas que cortam rios

2012-12-31 Thread Arlindo Pereira
+1 Em 31/12/2012 14:24, Aun Yngve Johnsen li...@gimnechiske.org escreveu: Boatarde Como eu saber o cruzamento do um rio e um estrada, onde nao ha ponte, e um nó com highway=ford, ou um trecho do highway com ford=yes Aun Johnsen On 31. des. 2012, at 14:10, Claiton Neisse

Re: [Talk-de] mapnik high res rendering

2012-12-31 Thread Tobias Hobmeier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/30/12 19:29, Tobias Hobmeier wrote: An einer anderen stelle habe ich das problem dass der keks von Wanderweg 1 (relation ref=1) vom Weg des Wanderweges 0 (relation ref=0) überdeckt wird... Ha! ads problem bah ich mitlerweile durch einen

[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 128 23.12. – 30.12.2012

2012-12-31 Thread Gehling Marc
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 128 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/2012/12/wochennotiz-nr-128/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] R: Aggiornamento dati ortografia strade

2012-12-31 Thread sabas88
Per far prima puoi usare DBpedia (la versione semantica). http://it.dbpedia.org/sparql Questa query tira fuori tutti i nomi e cognomi di Italiani presenti su Wikipedia SELECT ?name, ?surname WHERE { ?person a http://dbpedia.org/ontology/Person . ?person http://it.dbpedia.org/property/nome

Re: [Talk-it] R: Aggiornamento dati ortografia strade

2012-12-31 Thread Francesco Pelullo
Ottimo, non lo conoscevo. Se permetti io escluderei il filtro sulla nazionalità, in Italia esistono strade intitolate a personaggi stranieri. Ciao /niubii/ Il giorno 31 dicembre 2012 12:14, sabas88 saba...@gmail.com ha scritto: Per far prima puoi usare DBpedia (la versione semantica).

Re: [Talk-it] R: Aggiornamento dati ortografia strade

2012-12-31 Thread Fabrizio Tambussa
Il giorno 31 dicembre 2012 12:19, Francesco Pelullo f.pelu...@gmail.comha scritto: Ottimo, non lo conoscevo. Se permetti io escluderei il filtro sulla nazionalità, in Italia esistono strade intitolate a personaggi stranieri. Non e' vero: esistono vie John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Konrad Adenauer,

Re: [Talk-it] R: Aggiornamento dati ortografia strade

2012-12-31 Thread Andrea Musuruane
2012/12/31 Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com Il giorno 31 dicembre 2012 12:19, Francesco Pelullo f.pelu...@gmail.comha scritto: Ottimo, non lo conoscevo. Se permetti io escluderei il filtro sulla nazionalità, in Italia esistono strade intitolate a personaggi stranieri. Non e' vero:

[Talk-it] senso di marcia interrotto in statale

2012-12-31 Thread Calogero de Simone
come di rende una strada statale - originariamente a doppio senso di marcia - che, a causa di una frana che ha ristretto la carreggiata, è attualmente percorribile solo in uno dei due sensi (con contemporaneo suggerimento di percorso alternativo al senso vietato)? grazie, Calogero.

Re: [Talk-it] R: Aggiornamento dati ortografia strade

2012-12-31 Thread Fabrizio Tambussa
Chiedo scusa, non avevo letto bene. Saluti Il giorno 31/dic/2012 17:40, Andrea Musuruane musur...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2012/12/31 Fabrizio Tambussa ftambu...@gmail.com Il giorno 31 dicembre 2012 12:19, Francesco Pelullo f.pelu...@gmail.comha scritto: Ottimo, non lo conoscevo. Se permetti

Re: [Talk-es] Desplazamiento Ortofotos BING vs PNOA

2012-12-31 Thread David A. Nafria
Hola a todos, Entiendo que los problemas que se mencionan aquí obedecen a un error grosero de Bing. Pero hay un problema latente que a muy largo plazo dará que hablar. La ortofoto PNOA y la cartografía oficial en España y Europa usa el sistema de referencia ETRS89 (anclado a la placa tectónica

[Talk-pe] combis en Cusco

2012-12-31 Thread Jo
Hola, He creado una pagina en el wiki para el proyecto de mapear los combis en Cusco: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Perú:Transporte_público_en_Cusco Me doy cuenta que las rutas no están completas, pero no tendré la oportunidad de volver para mejorarles ya. Feliz año nuevo, Polyglot

Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Blackberry 'Edge' 8520 Smartphone.

2012-12-31 Thread David Richfield
I have successfully used TrekBuddy on a BB: it can show map tiles from OSM - you can create the necessary atlas using mobac. It can also record tracks and geocode pictures that you take while recording a track. Quite useful for mapping, although not as good as Vespucci. On Dec 22, 2012 2:37 PM,

[OSM-Talk-ZA] Updated CD:NGI Aerial Imagery Now Available

2012-12-31 Thread Grant Slater
Hi OSM ZA, Updated: http://aerial.openstreetmap.org.za/ Contains new imagery (collect from CD:NGI during November 2012) and I've finally filled in most of the missing areas. Percentage of the imagery captured in the year: - 2012: 17.8% - 2011: 27.6% - 2010: 21.1% - 2009: 28.8% - 2008: 4.7%

[OSM-talk-fr] nouveau membre région de Nancy

2012-12-31 Thread christian Herbé
Bonjour Inscrit depuis plusieurs semaines, je me décide à me présenter. Je m'appelle Christian Herbé. Je suis informaticien et élu local. Ayant développé un SIG communal, je suis très sensible à tout ce qui concerne l'infographie. J'ai quelques questions su OSM que je vais poster par mèls

[OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread christian Herbé
Bonjour De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant trop de données ? Je songe à contribuer à OSM en publiant le document graphiques du PLU de ma Commune. Est-ce souhaitable par la communauté ? Si oui, quels attributs appliquer et comment distinguer

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 12/31/2012 11:47 AM, christian Herbé wrote: De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant trop de données ? Non - chaque utilisateur y pioche les données dont il a besoin pour le traitement ou le rendu de son choix... Il a certes l'embarras du choix mais

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread Pieren
2012/12/31 christian Herbé che...@free.fr: Bonjour Bonjour et bienvenue sur OSM. De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant trop de données ? Si. Mais au lieu de parler de d'asphyxie de la carte, il faut dire asphyxie de la base de données ;-) Parce

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread Jo.
Bonjour Christian, Je suis nouveau sur OSM et je serait curieux de voir à quoi ressemblerai un PLU. Est ce que tu aurait un extrait à me partager afin que je me fasse une idée sur la question ? Tout comme toi je me suis posé la question au début de mes contributions et je me suis rendu compte

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread Jo.
Le 31 décembre 2012 12:45, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/12/31 christian Herbé che...@free.fr: De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant trop de données ? Si. Mais au lieu de parler de d'asphyxie de la carte, il faut dire asphyxie de

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread Christian Quest
Les filtres de JOSM sont bien pratique mais à utiliser avec prudence... car lorsqu'on filtre certaines données, on ne se rend pas forcément compte de ce qu'on touche. Le 31 décembre 2012 12:50, Jo. perche...@gmail.com a écrit : Le 31 décembre 2012 12:45, Pieren pier...@gmail.com a écrit :

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 12/31/2012 12:50 PM, Jo. wrote: Le 31 décembre 2012 12:45, Pieren pier...@gmail.com mailto:pier...@gmail.com a écrit : 2012/12/31 christian Herbé che...@free.fr mailto:che...@free.fr: De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] documents d'urbanisme

2012-12-31 Thread ZIMMY
/Bonjour De manière générale, n'y a -t- il pas un risque d'asphyxie de la carte en publiant trop de données ?/ /Je songe à contribuer à OSM en publiant le document graphiques du PLU de ma Commune./ Bonjour Christian, j'ai moi-même une formation d'urbaniste et je pense que ton intuition est

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] problème osmosis ou mkgmap ?

2012-12-31 Thread philippe
Eric eric026@... writes: Salut ! Je pense que ton probleme est lié à la v0.39 d'Osmosis. J'avais ce meme genre d'erreur avant de migrer vers 0.41. La nouvelle version permet de gerer les fichiers sources au delà du seuil des 2 Go principalement (quand on traite France entière) mais

Re: [OSM-ja] アイランド・マッピングの後方支援募集!

2012-12-31 Thread yuu hayashi
hayashiです。 今のところ伊豆大島のアイランドマッピングに参加しようと思っています。 アームチェアマッピングは不得意なので現地参加を考えています。 フェリー航路のマッピングの件ですが、熱海〜大島(元町)のGPXログがあったので描いてみました。 ジェット船でのログのようです。 他の航路のログは見当たりませんでした。 イベント日程では竹橋からジェット船で向かうようですね、当然GPXログは取得していただけると期待しています。 どうせなら行きと帰りの船ルートを変えるとか、参加者が別々の航路を使って集まるのもいいかもしれませんね。

Re: [OSM-ja] アイランド・マッピングの後方支援募集!

2012-12-31 Thread Shu Higashi
東です。 2013/01/01 yuu hayashi hayashi@gmail.com: hayashiです。 今のところ伊豆大島のアイランドマッピングに参加しようと思っています。 アームチェアマッピングは不得意なので現地参加を考えています。 私も参加予定です。お会いできることを楽しみにしています。 人数把握のために下記でお申込み頂けると良いようです。 http://oshima-hackathon.peatix.com/ フェリー航路のマッピングの件ですが、熱海〜大島(元町)のGPXログがあったので描いてみました。 ジェット船でのログのようです。

Re: [OSM-ja] アイランド・マッピングの後方支援募集!

2012-12-31 Thread Yoichi SEINO
みなさま、あけましておめでとうございます。 清野です。 昨年はSotMなどもあり、日本においてOSMが非常に飛躍した年でしたね。 今年もみんなが使って参加してくれるOSMにしていきたいものです。 さて、1点だけ。 ところで、GPXログをなぞってウェイを書いた場合のsourceタグはどう書けばいいのでしょう? 他人のものでも survey で良いと思います。 この部分ですが、 昔はsource=GPSというのがあったような気がしていたのですが、 今はsource=surveyに統一されたんですね。 JOSMではまだsource=GPSというのがあるみたいですが…。

Re: [Talk-GB] When is a police station not a police station?

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
On 31 December 2012 09:36, Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net wrote: Many police services are considering providing front counter services out of post offices, cafes, supermarkets! + libraries as they have done in my town. I would suggest that we continue to use amenity=police both for police

[Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
Hello, I have been adding to OSM for about 18 months but more active in recent weeks. I have requested the PRoW from Durham County Council, they currently have not released their data but do have it electronically, just not publicly available to download yet. Their response was more postive than

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Barry Cornelius
On Mon, 31 Dec 2012, Steven Horner wrote: I have been adding to OSM for about 18 months but more active in recent weeks. I have requested the PRoW from Durham County Council, they currently have not released their data but do have it electronically, just not publicly available to download yet.

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
Barry: I applied on Nov 28th but contacted the PRoW team who I have some contact with, I received the below response on Dec 10th. It's good to read they have made some progress and applied for an exemption. Do you have any thoughts on how you would tag the paths if adding to OSM as I mentioned. I

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread SomeoneElse
Steven Horner wrote: I have added several footpaths locally but I am often left wondering how to tag these or how to break them into sections. I have followed the guidelines at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines but should I tag the footpath with the local

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Dudley Ibbett
Please be careful with the ™doesn't actually exist™ as the owner may not have maintained the access point in the hope that people will stop using the path. I've seen this on a number of occasions. I would investigate further and raise it with the PRoWO. I believe there is a deadline coming up

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread SomeoneElse
David Groom wrote: Last time this was discussed on the list I think we favoured prow:ref http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2012-June/013424.html Yes - well remembered - there are indeed lots more of those: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=prow_ref Cheers, Andy

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
Andy raised several good points regarding tagging and references but not sure I would agree about ignoring paths if not existing on the ground. Officially if a path exists on the Definitive map then you have the right to walk it, this is the information I was given by the PRoW team when I became a

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
Thanks Andy that's what I was looking for. The job of adding footpaths, bridleways and byways gets more complicated if we want it to be as accurate as possible. The prow=ref obviously isn't needed but good to have if it's known. -- www.stevenhorner.com http://www.stevenhorner.com @stevenhorner

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread SomeoneElse
Dudley Ibbett wrote: Please be careful with the ™doesn't actually exist™ as the owner may not have maintained the access point in the hope that people will stop using the path. I've seen this on a number of occasions. If there's something visible on the ground then I'd definitely map it,

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Nickerson
Apologies that this was never added to the wiki page, but you are correct we discussed prow:ref and prow_ref. I believe tag info suggests we are converging more on prow_ref=* so will update the wiki to reflect this. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_access_provisions#Public_Rights_of_Way

[Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread SomeoneElse
Steven Horner wrote: A more interesting example of the differences between on the ground and recorded PRoW exists here (just NE of your link): http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.91864lon=-0.77876zoom=17layers=M For information I've made the GPS trace public:

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Nickerson
After 2026 a public right of way will only exist if it appears on the Local Authorities Definitive Map. This means that irrespective of what is on the ground, the legal right of way is that shown on the legal Definitive Map. What does this mean for OSM: * As noted designation=public_footpath is

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Nickerson
Arg! We were converging on prow_ref when I last looked at tag info a few months back. Perhaps I should have checked before changing the wiki!! Seeing that I have now updated the wiki (and it really doesn't make a shred of difference) does anyone have an issue if I change the existing prow:ref s

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
By Public Way Identifiers I presume you mean a public footpath or bridleway sign and the direction they point. I had an angry confrontation once with a farmer who would have would of worn my finger out if I had a bleep machine. I had walked across his field according to the map which was a couple

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Graham Jones
I have had similar issues, but without the abusive farmer in your part of the world? (Weardale). My old OS map said the Weardale w Way went through this field, and there was a waymark at the junction with the road, but once in the (very large!) field, there was no obvious way out - just rusty

Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Footpath segmentation

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
Hi Bill, On 30 December 2012 22:52, Bill Chadwick bill.chadwi...@gmail.com wrote: I would be interested to hear how council released prow data has / has not been used within OSM to add to or replace existing contributed path data. Hants and Devon have released PROW data but sadly many of the

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
It's a small world, the incident I described was also in Weardale near Thimbleby Hill South of Stanhope. I didn't use OSM then and checking OSM the path is not marked. A path on the opposite side of the wall where the farmer was stood is marked which is incorrect and will lead to someone else

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=

2012-12-31 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref= Arg! We were converging on prow_ref when I last looked at tag info a few months

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Graham Jones
Even smaller - I am pretty sure the problem I had was just to the North of Stanhope You are right, there are plenty of opportunities to add footpaths to Weardale. I concentrated on the Weardale Way (which you can see on Lonvia's Hiking Map if you are interested (

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Rob Nickerson
I find that quite often it helps to pull up the historic map layers. Here is a screenshot showing the route of the road as shown on OS 25k 1st series map: https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6J5ZA1hu93bOXEtZE1XY01zcEE (I'll try to keep this up online for a few months) The local authority would

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Dudley Ibbett
I tried searching on Weardale but there doesn't appear to be a POI marking the Dale! For those that know this area where would make a good base for walking and also have a Pub with wifi for updating OSM in the evening? Thanks Dudley Sent from my iPad On 31 Dec 2012, at 16:47, Graham Jones

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Graham Jones
Fair point - I'm not really sure what I would tag it as though! Frosterley and Stanhopehttp://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/en/?zoom=12lat=54.74591lon=-2.0121 are fairly major places with pubs - not sure about wifi though. Graham. On 31 December 2012 18:56, Dudley Ibbett

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM)

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
Weardale is a bit hard to define. It is generally thought of as starting at Wolsingham and running up to the edge of the County Boundary at the high point above Killhope before dropping down to Nenthead and Cumbria. The North and South are bounded by the hills above the valley with the exception

[Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2012-12-31 Thread Steven Horner
Personally I would love to see fields (landuse) and the walls/fences that make this up marked on OSM but as per the Wiki this is a complicated area: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Land_use_and_areas_of_natural_land I mapped a small area with landuse and some fences months ago but refrained

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2012-12-31 Thread Graham Jones
I would like to see field boundaries and land uses in OSM, for the same reason as you. I think the main reason that there are not many in there, is that they are very difficult to survey. I have just added them from memory when I have been able to remember enough - it is more realistic to add

Re: [Talk-GB] Marking landuse and field boundaries

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Peat
Steven, On 31 Dec 2012 21:19, Steven Horner ste...@stevenhorner.com wrote: I mapped a small area with landuse and some fences months ago but refrained from doing anymore because not many others appear to be doing it. You can see what I did here:

Re: [Talk-GB] Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM: prow_ref=

2012-12-31 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On 31 December 2012 16:38, David Groom revi...@pacific-rim.net wrote: Not that I'm overly bothered, but since the wiki was only changed a few hours ago, and tag info statistics seem to show a greater usage of prow:ref, I'd have thought standardising on that (and changing the wiki) would have

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steve Coast
On Dec 31, 2012, at 3:21 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 31.12.2012 06:49, Steve Coast wrote: Therefore I don't see why each country or state (i.e. Mass. and their own imports) can't have it's own solution which reflects the cultural realities there. Your argument

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Jeff Meyer
Why does imports mean not crowdsourced, if the crowd determines which imports are source-able? Why doesn't public-domain data that the crowd has funded count as crowdsourced? No one has been able to provide directly observable verifiable information about Ptolemy, yet there is still a Wikipedia

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steve Coast
On Dec 31, 2012, at 9:15 AM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: My concern about this entire discussion is that the whole import vs community argument is employed even when there is a community behind an import. … by people outside that community living on a different continent. I mean, I wish

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Why does imports mean not crowdsourced, if the crowd determines which imports are source-able? Crowdsourced means that we survey the data indivdually. Why doesn't public-domain data that the crowd has funded count as

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Randal Hale
Apparently my last reply was rejected from the Moderation police - and it was probably a good thing... Low wage? Low Skilled? Do as little as possible? That's not a good description of public domain data or how that data came into existence. There's a lot of good data collected by skilled

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Serge Wroclawski
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Randal Hale rjh...@northrivergeographic.com wrote: Apparently my last reply was rejected from the Moderation police - and it was probably a good thing... Low wage? Low Skilled? Do as little as possible? That's not a good description of public domain data or

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Toby Murray
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org wrote: Why does imports mean not crowdsourced, if the crowd determines which imports are source-able? Crowdsourced means that we survey the data indivdually.

[Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2012-12-31 Thread stevea
I have been pondering the use of the admin_level key in the USA, and have come to the realization that while values 2, 4, 6 and 8 are correct for national, state, county and city boundaries (respectively), it is more complicated than that. It is likely time to end the pretending this

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Welty
funny you should bring this up, i've been pondering CDPs a bit lately and have come to very different conclusions from yours. On 12/31/12 3:30 PM, stevea wrote: I have been pondering the use of the admin_level key in the USA, and have come to the realization that while values 2, 4, 6 and 8

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Minh Nguyen
On 2012-12-31 12:30 PM, stevea wrote: However, there are boundary polygons in OSM which are an odd duck in the USA: a notable one is Census Designated Places (CDPs), which came from the TIGER import. These are a bit like cities in that they are often a similar size and population of a town or

Re: [Talk-us] An admin_level for CDPs?

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/31/12 5:12 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: I'd argue that not all governmental boundaries need to be tagged as boundary=administrative. In Ohio, we've started to retag CDP boundaries with boundary=census and place=locality but without admin_level. [1][2] They still show up in Nominatim as

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Russ Nelson
Steve Coast writes: Waze, last time I looked, was 5 times larger than OSM. Today, probably 10. Nobody ever tells me about Waze. Today it's hard to convince any consumer they should do so over google or waze. Go to anybody who travels through bad cell coverage. Show them OSMAnd on a Nexus

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Steve Coast
On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Steve Coast writes: Waze, last time I looked, was 5 times larger than OSM. Today, probably 10. Nobody ever tells me about Waze. You live in upstate New York, dude. :-) Steve ___

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Richard Welty
On 12/31/12 9:38 PM, Steve Coast wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Steve Coast writes: Waze, last time I looked, was 5 times larger than OSM. Today, probably 10. Nobody ever tells me about Waze. You live in upstate New York, dude. :-) beyond upstate.

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Russ Nelson
Serge Wroclawski writes: The result is that the data quality varies *a lot* and no one should take it (or any data source) as gospel, just as OSM data is not gospel. New York State has 62 counties, and only have bad TIGER data in about 8 of them. The rest are frankly, gorgeous. -- --my

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Russ Nelson
Steve Coast writes: On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Steve Coast writes: Waze, last time I looked, was 5 times larger than OSM. Today, probably 10. Nobody ever tells me about Waze. You live in upstate New York, dude. :-) I have a 100Mbps

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Russ Nelson
Richard Welty writes: On 12/31/12 9:38 PM, Steve Coast wrote: On Dec 31, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote: Steve Coast writes: Waze, last time I looked, was 5 times larger than OSM. Today, probably 10. Nobody ever tells me about Waze. You live in

Re: [Talk-us] Imports - an attempt to explain

2012-12-31 Thread Kevin Kenny
On 12/20/2012 10:50 PM, Russ Nelson wrote: Now, the flip side of your idea of collaboration is that I knew about OSM, knew that my county was largely empty, and knew that TIGER would be a great starting point. So I DID NOT do any editing until TIGER got uploaded. Your theory is great, but I'm a

Re: [Talk-us] parcel data in OSM

2012-12-31 Thread Jason Remillard
Hi, * Another is, the threat of importing crappy TIGER ranges is motivating people to go look at available county data. That is fantastic. So as Ian alluded to pushing the conversation forward is itself a motivator The reason why I pushed the building import is that I am worried about

Re: [Talk-cl] El splitter en los *.osm

2012-12-31 Thread Danilo Lacoste
Hola, aunque sea un poco vieja la respuesta, Ayer y hoy he estado probando los mapas generados de alternativaslibres.es para la región de chile. se ven muy completos. Funcionan bien en el etrex legend. http://mapas.alternativaslibres.es/descargas.php saludos. 2012/8/2 EQP