This is a boring discussion, and only triggered by what should be out of
OSM : National Claims.
Borders are almost invisible on the ground either, at least in civilized
countries.
And if we just decided to leave out all country borders.in a
utopic effort to re-unite the world ?
There are 2 solutions for this Steve dilemma:
1. not ask for these little, tiny things and create a real free
map...
2. hire an expensive lawyer and pursue the criminals
Common wake up, this 2014, and if you have gold (the map) in your hands,
don't expect to be treated like a
is about how difficult it is for some people
to give away something and get nothing in return.
Regards, Gert Gremmen, BSc
Van: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch]
Verzonden: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:01 PM
Aan: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk
to defend itself.
Gert Gremmen
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Verzonden: zondag 3 februari 2013 11:55
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Paweł's q: what can be done?
Am 03.02.2013 09:57, schrieb Robin Paulson:
On 2013-02-03
If there were no BoD, but OSM were still a true crowd driven
organization, there would not have been a place to address this
notice
Put up a tree and you are sure to catch wind !
Geert
Van: Jeff Meyer [mailto:j...@gwhat.org]
Verzonden: vrijdag 1 februari 2013 19:07
Aan: Manfred
Martin wrote:
The terms and conditions apply to who uses the Google service,
Do they actually ? If their terms would state that you owe Google
one dollar for each picture, would that hold in court ?
In what way the current terms are different from asking money
Any pay site makes you pay
Just guess who controls the servers and domain name ?
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Van: Pieren [mailto:pier...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: dinsdag 18 september 2012 19:56
Aan: OSM
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines OSMF/DWG governance
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Grant Slater
Messages were sent on September 14th and 13th about the need to use a
dedicated account. A previous note was sent in March reminding them in
the
context of a note about a broken upload of 50k nodes.
And he didn't listen to Big Big Brother who warned him twice...
Is this a crowd sourced OPEN
Reputed manufacturer of RF equipment Rohde Schwarz
has applied OSM maps in firmware in their portable
RS DDF007 Direction Finder for tracking down
(illegal) sources of interference.
Their brochure states that OSM currently is license-free,
which apparently is a commercial translation
Then we should let it alone and bow for the
international common denominator of forbidden
subjects and stop mapping
fugitive camps
military installations
war monuments
coffee shops
governmental buildings
or whatever any country will put on the list
of forbidden to map ???
Isn't there a need
What is OSM's policy in mapping military installations...
cetest
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to insert into fosm, but it seems
that it's not easy to find erased works ;((
The change
Gert (cetest)
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Van: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 23 augustus 2012 20:22
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: talk
+1
It's the contributor terms that made me refuse to accept.
Not ODBL. I can see the both the advantages and drawbacks
of ODBL but these are not a major problem.
For me the CT has been a problem.
I principally refuse to sign a contract where I can be held legally
responsible
for data
.
I declare the new map still to be CC-BY-SA and not ODBL
Gert Gremmen
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TomTom is right, OSM is still a immature product.
That may change, but it isn't yet. But for a few Garmins
serious routing on OSM is a hazardous enterprise.
Even in the Netherlands, one of the countries with
a high completion rate, road classification is NOT
consistent, so are the deafault
.
(GG : not signing the CT)
As one may conclude: protection against copyright breaches will
not come without sufficient vigilance of their respective owners.
Regards,
Gert Gremmen
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Apparently this ownership is more complex then
at first sight.
A way is defined by its nodes and its tags.
Maarten only took a look at the tags.
cetest did not only add a residential tag, but
created the nodes (Version 1) that defines this
particular way with GPS acquired data,
later assisted
AM
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!
On 2012-05-29 10:43, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
wrote:
Apparently this ownership is more complex then at first sight.
A way is defined by its nodes and its tags.
Maarten only took a look
then
that)
of copyrights, in OSM's database
they will publish that at a future moment that suits them best
Regards,
Gert Gremmen,
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I did not give you permission to share
a private conversation on the list.
That is also about copyrights, Davie.
Gert
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Van: Thomas Davie [mailto:tom.da...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:43 AM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC
[mailto:emilie.laff...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:19 PM
Aan: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: Thomas Davie; talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!
Hello,
First of all, let me just say it is indeed impolite to share private
can you get !
Providing all the tools to check for ODBL compatibility and
accepting copy and paste just like that by any stupid looser
contributor.
Why is there no tool for checking on copy paste copyright
infringement...
Because no-one meant to check on that ?
user: cetest
Gert
Gremmen
CC: talk@openstreetmap.org; osmf-t...@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!
On Mon, May 28, 2012 at 3:42 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
[ ... ]
However, it was not meant that the data were simply to be copied, deleted
If you have been thinking about ODBL and its
function in OSM, the ultimate conclusion is that
you need to support SOPA.
OSM want to have its contents protected (to a minimum, I admit)
by a license (CC-BY-SA or OBL), principally based on the legal system of
defense of intellectual property. SOPA
Frederick showed us some of the problems of OSM itself (well done !),
pragmatic problems needing to be solved for OSM to survive, but once
solved do not change fundamentally change anything to OSM.
That is ok if OSM is perfect for the next 100 years or so, but
that will not be the case I believe.
I think it's relevant that node changes as suggested
should involve stand alone nodes only (such as POI).
Once they are part of a structure of say a building or a road, water
or any area, the nodes should be considered a composition rather
then 4 nodes.
While the underlying structure is a
the original set, where
randomly offsetting each node of the original will
strongly resemble the original way.
Gert Gremmen
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Thank you Chris for your constructive comment
to my stupid contribution to this list.
I must apologize to you and the list because I should
have realized more early that I am too much of a fool
to be allowed to contribute. I am deeply sorry.
Gert Gremmen
.
Van: Chris Hill
, and makes no contribution to the database at all.
Unless the license issue of course
And thank you for the compliment Richard (about the 0%) , I
always appreciate comments from those who know better.
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl
thinking about building sites, future geodata (to be realized
constructions, roads or even complete city blocks.)
it's not that I need to community to enter that data
now, just try to enable our database for it, so
we are ready to accept it.
Gert Gremmen
or palestinines (and the other way around of course).
And we Europeans do not have to learn Hebrew before being
able to use the Israel map.
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment
these differences, and while not creating the simple view
of the world that many people want, may point, demonstrate
and support the fact how
we are all different in our view on this globe.
Regards,
Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc
g.grem...@cetest.nl
www.cetest.nl
Kiotoweg 363
3047 BG Rotterdam
T 31(0
.)
Gert Gremmen
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Van: Zsombor Szabó [mailto:zsom...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Saturday, October 08, 2011 2:40 PM
Aan: OSM Talk
What a childish approach of both sides...
This is something the community should be ashamed of !
Gert Gremmen
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P Before printing, think about the environment.
Van: dimka israeli
, we would have 100% of
everything anyway in roughly two years if we simply just let things carry on as
they are now (which is not the intention).
Simon
Am 24.09.2011 16:29, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
irony ON
It seems as if the community is not that motivated
to re
of open data
and of crowd collected data, or at least do not speak accordingly.
The power of OSM is the number thing. Many users
equal out the uneven data from beginners and vandals.
But if you want to start an OSM college, I will not be the one
to stop you !
Gert Gremmen
You lost me here, definitely ... ;((
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Van: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2011 20:55
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Barriers of Entry
I'm glad that you both agree so closely.
Paraphrasing
+1 Serge
I do not think that the experts (read : experienced) OSM such
as Frederik, SteveC and many others including myself have the skills to
actually fine tune
OSM to new users. We know too much details, are too involved
and probably too worried about misuse, data soup (yes me too)
and too
/ conditionally approve
edits made by stupidity / mouse errors / vandalism / ignorance.
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Van: Jaakko Helleranta.com [mailto:jaa...@helleranta.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 15 september 2011 4:34
Aan: Ian Sergeant; ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
CC: Talk
, but it is not on the list
of allowed software to use. Maybe because they want us to make
quality derived works of their data, and want to prevent the
data soup some starting users success to build ?
Regards,
Gert Gremmen, BSc
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Van: Hendrik Oesterlin [mailto:hendrikmail2
I think this user ranking principle / ranking discussion is very
unhealthy.
OSM is not a game with points for every node we shoot !
Common, become an adult and map to give to the world
and have a good time yourself. And if you go outside
with your GPS you have a free workout too.
Gert
for the switch-over so as to
allow
you -and others- to build a serious business model with OSM.
Until then I suggest you to refrain.
Note that I am just a member of the community, and in no
way speaking for the whole of it.
Gert Gremmen
Weet iemand wie deze kaart heeft gemaakt ?
Of iemand die iets vergelijkbaars kan maken (in opdracht ?
Gert Gremmen
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P Before printing, think about the environment.
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Deze bedoelde ik inderdaad.
Een relatie van mij wil iets dergelijks
(maar dan anders natuurlijk), en ben op zoek naar
iemand die dat kan.
Het gaat om real time, en historie, en
bij klikken op de trein , een arbitraire
dataset displayen.
Regards,
Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc
g.grem...@cetest.nl
Even if that might be legally correct it’s not morally correct, as we actually
CAN
trace that to persons. Hiding behind a formal legal description will
save you from persecution only. Nevertheless naming Skobbler is doing harm to
people.
No-one should have mentioned the name Skobbler in the
.
ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
Signing (clicking) the CT explicitly transfers the
liability of the suitability to the contributor,
where declaring PD does not.
The Board wants us to sign a contract with them.
It's not about
testing bv - Gert
Gremmen:
Simon said:
Distributing data just
because somebody on the web said it was PD has a high likelihood of
being
considered negligent.
Then distributing data because someone on the web has stated that
is was CT/ODBL compliant is even negligent.
If you do
access back
Op 10-08-11 12:33, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen schreef:
To all
It's all a matter of trust.
A) Trusting contributors and
b) trusting the users of OSM data.
The current policy of OSM is to trust nobody,
and therefore OSM(F) is seeking legal certainty,
by creating
that legally binds me and
puts me in a legal risky situation for things that I *give* to
OSM.
I may consider a CT for data that I provide if I was paid for it,
but I'll never put my life at risk for nothing.
Regards,
Gert Gremmen
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Van: Simon Poole [mailto:si
...@poole.ch]
Verzonden: Thursday, August 11, 2011 12:42 PM
Aan: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] I want my access back
Am 11.08.2011 12:00, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen:
Thanks Simon for your constructive reply.
(contrary to those that call any
, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen schrieb:
So by citing my e-mail without a license, you
made an infraction to my copyright,as you are actually
republishing copyrighted work
No, only if it wasn't properly cited, as (AFAIK) most IP laws require
you to point out who is the author unless
It's OSM that obliges users to contribute CC-BY-SA
and it's OSM that obliges users to contribute ODBL.
But many of us want to contribute PD and do not want
to comply with any CT at all. PD data does not need a
complicated and binding CT as the current one.
And the current situation is not
To all
It's all a matter of trust.
A) Trusting contributors and
b) trusting the users of OSM data.
The current policy of OSM is to trust nobody,
and therefore OSM(F) is seeking legal certainty,
by creating licenses and contributor terms.
It will probably take a long time for those
seeking
What is worrying me is that the LWG (=OSMF=COMMUNITY)
requires any contributor (us) to sign up using a CT,
where BING can get away with a simple blog page.
I *can* understand that, because it's not OSM that is addressed
in this blog, but the individuals (us) making contributions.
The permission
Is het niet simpeler die paar paadjes even recht te maken ?
Kwartiertje werk voor iemand in JOSM
Gert
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Van: Maarten Deen [mailto:md...@xs4all.nl]
Verzonden: maandag 11 juli 2011 18:52
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Paden
So there won't be a problem if on day X the version of John Smith will
be removed from the database and on day X+2 I would enter one of the
versions I've shown, right?
Right, under the assumption both cannot be copyrighted,
not even under OdBL, being *fact*.
If they *are* copyrighted, no you
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Maarten Deen wrote:
Turn restrictions, maximum speeds, oneway streets, even the value
of the highway tag is not a geographical fact.
Sure they are.
If I walk about 20 yards from my front door, there's a no entry
sign at a
+1
Frederik has not shown much respect for any argument
nor to anyone that disagrees with the future commercialisation
of OSM. (with that I means making OSM optimally fit for commercial use;
disregarding the open principles that OSM started with:
leaving out the Share Alike principle)
+1
Gert
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Van: John Smith [mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 7 juli 2011 19:55
Aan: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes
On 7 July 2011 21:49, Andreas Perstinger
bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
I doubt if any effort in re-creating a map database of the real world
can be classified as creative work,
as the mapper inevitably tries to copy reality to the best of his
effort, and any deviation is just imperfection
and corrected once the right
and LICENCE compatible proof inserted).
From these written observations, you may apply
this name again to a new captured road that replaces the deleted road.
Regards,
Gert Gremmen,
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Van: Andreas Perstinger [mailto:andreas.perstin...@gmx.net]
Verzonden: Tuesday
What's wrong with asking everyone AGAIN ?
If something is wrong, then it cannot be difficult to correct.
If a youg organization as OSM is not flexible, who the hell on earth IS ?
Or even better, let the community choose what CT/LICENSE is best.
Email is free, and a voting webtool is available
Ik denk dat je beter af bent met josm dan potlatch...
voor het editen van relaties
Gert
Van: TheoV [mailto:urbanci...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: woensdag 29 juni 2011 17:56
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] wandelroute
Ok, ik heb het teruggezet naar
fun?
Maybe each node had its own license ?
/fun?
gert
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Van: Nathan Edgars II [mailto:nerou...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: zaterdag 25 juni 2011 20:18
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Multiple versions of same node in changeset
Shaun McDonald
all the time.
So probably the cooky used by potlact are not so much a concern,
as long as it's function is notified (site? / Help? / popup?)
to the user.
I suggest that Openstreet add a tab regarding privacy of it's users
where these types of things are mentioned.
Gert Gremmen
of saying the the majority is always right, and if wrong
they are right anyway ! And history has shown us and shows us every day
again where that opinon can lead to.
Regards,
Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc
g.grem...@cetest.nl
www.cetest.nl
Kiotoweg 363
3047 BG Rotterdam
T 31(0)104152426
F 31(0)104154953
, not the continuing half. End the fork took the assets boooh
Gert
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 8:42 PM, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert
Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote:
The rotten thing here is that the ODBL fork has hijacked the domain
name and
servers, because of mainly because a majority let
You do realize that there are thousands of people reading this list, from
all around the world? Please contact LWG in private or at least move to
legal-talk@, where all trolls go. Thank you.
Legal-talk = troll ?? : this guy/gall *is* funny !!
Gert Gremmen
.
If you want to check the settings for your computer
regarding flash cookies, look here:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/sett
ings_manager09.html
And that is the information released by Macromedia/Adobe only.
Gert Gremmen
trolling ON
Stop harassing the poor guys of the LWG.
They are just volonteers carrying out orders of the OSMF.
And after all: 99.99 % of our community
was not addressed.
And those who were addressed ...i tiny minority... who cares...
they won't bother us no more
trolling off
Gert
19 juni 2011 6:59
Aan: Licensing and other legal discussions.
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [talk-au] Statement from nearmap.com
regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap
On 19 June 2011 03:40, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.grem...@cetest.nl wrote
Not sure of you point, since cc-by-sa can't be magically turned into
ODBL data, it can only stay cc-by-sa.
If you are legally sure and prove that they were cc-by-sa in the first
place. ;))
This copyright stuff for soft - ware (not software) is a can of worms
that will
kill the project in the
If I declare that all my contributions from 19-06-2011 on will
be published as PD, will that prevent the community from
blocking my account ?
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
P Before printing, think about
.
Gert
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
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Van: Andre Engels [mailto:andreeng...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Saturday, June 18, 2011 10:35 AM
Aan
The CT/License Vote was IMHO not meant to be a serious democratic
process. Instead a majority was searched for a OSMF decision:
cynism on
like non anonymous voting for a single party in some countries
where your lose your job if voting against -fill in your favorite dictator-
cynism off
As long as
fork is
met enig bestaansrecht. Die fork zal ik niet oprichten, daarvoor
mis ik de software capaciteiten en de tijd mij die eigen te maken.
Tot die tijd zal OSM(F) de consequenties moeten nemen van de genomen stappen.
Regards,
Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc
Before printing, think about the environment
testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl
Ik vindt een nieuwe licentie onnodig omdat
-we deze maar ook een andere licentie niet kunnen handhaven
Verklaar. Dit snap ik niet. Zeer waarschijnlijk ligt jouw bezwaar ook bij de
huidige CC-BY-SA licentie
-er nooit problemen zijn
This whole licensing process went way above the competence of
the LWG, both in legal, management as in technical sense.
As usual, these things will be worked out when the circumstances
demand it. Just like in the old-fashioned do-ocratic way.
Gert Gremmen
No, it would be simpler for OSM.
Regards,
Gert
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Van: Dermot McNally [mailto:derm...@gmail.com]
Verzonden: Thursday, June 16, 2011 4:59 PM
Aan: Floris Looijesteijn
CC: OpenStreetMap Talk
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Users who disagree to ODbL but want PD / CC0
democratic votes, the vote
occurs BEFORE the decision to implement a plan takes place. It is
tacitly acknowledged in that the mechanism in the CTs is different from
what previously had happened. But really the past doesn't matter as much
as what we do next
Gert Gremmen
, becoming a
member of the OSMF will reinforce the basis of this project.
Regardless of the fact that our legal basis will result in CT/ODBL or PD.
So again, I want to call everyone reading this to spent a few beers
in our favorite hobby (if so!) and assure the future of OSM.
Regards,
Gert Gremmen
the license result of your membership will be, the money spent
is wisely spent as it will contribute to a better future for OSM,
but then supported by a higher percentage of the community.
Gert Gremmen
-
Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest
The problems with the CC-BY-SA license are fully hypothetical,
as there have been no real life problems.
There have been some hesitations at commercial users of OSM data
with the Share Alike part, but OSM is not bound to enforce the SA part
of the current license either, so we could just allow
Ho,
Eigenlijk is het ook een stad.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Wateringen,+
Netherlandsaq=0sll=71.187754,97.646484sspn=19.766308,85.605469ie=UTF
8hq=hnear=Wateringen,+Westland,+South+Holland,+Netherlandst=hll=52.0
, of gaat doen. Voorkomt dubbel werk.
Gert Gremmen
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Am i missing something ?
Dermot is answering messages that are not on this list.
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
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Van: Dermot McNally
richten:
Hoe houden we de data up-to-date ?
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
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Van: Vincent Zweije [mailto:vinc...@zweije.nl]
Verzonden: Wednesday
jammer, geen permalink
One can dream , indeed !
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
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Van: Vincent Zweije [mailto:vinc...@zweije.nl]
Verzonden
Martijn, je wilt niet weten hoeveel verschillen er zijn
tussen de 3D gebouwen en de BING foto's.
En dan heb ik het alleen maar over de toegevoegde/gewijzigde gebouwen
waarvan je gevoeglijk kunt aannemen dat de BING nieuwer is.
Gert Gremmen
Jullie hebben gelijk, maar het woordgrapje was te verleidelijk.
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
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Van: Cartinus [mailto:carti...@xs4all.nl
Die driehoeken bij mij in de buurt ( 300 meter) zijn echte bugs, en geen
nieuwe gebouwen.
Misschien verbouwingen ??
Gert Gremmen
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Openstreetmap.nl (alias: cetest)
Before printing, think about the environment.
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right down to 3 or 4 per day.
Each day 2250 who have accepted the new terms do editting, and about 50 who
have declined, i.e more than average. We think decliners are trying to game the
system, particular with regard to deleting then recreating relations.
Gert Gremmen
Leg eens uit wat het voordeel is van een polygoon /multipolygoon
voor slootjes ?
Is het dat de grens van weiland/sloot in een way gemaakt kan worden ?
Hoe doe je dat dan als er niet overal een slootje ligt ?
Gert Gremmen
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boerderij / bedrijf dat vaak wel 50-100
meter breed is ?
Gert Gremmen
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Before printing, think about the environment.
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Gert Gremmen
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P Before printing, think about the environment.
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overleggen dat we geen dingen dubbel doen.
Heb je een lijstje met al gereden stukken, of plan je daar wat
te gaan doen komende weken ? Geef even een seintje dan plan ik mee.
Gert Gremmen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Jeroen Muris [mailto:jer...@tweejee.net]
Verzonden: maandag 16 mei 2011
Van: Floris Looijesteijn [mailto:o...@floris.nu]
Verzonden: Monday, May 16, 2011 9:26 PM
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Uiterlijk van de kaart
toch zijn er genoeg bedrijfjes gestart die met onze data nu diensten
leveren.
alleen op die manier kunnen ze
Wat een onzin; zonder een voorbeeld representatie (de kaart)
zou er niemand naar OSM hebben omgekeken.
Data onderscheidt zich alleen maar van ruis
doordat het zich gestructureerd laat weergeven.
Als je dus wilt laten zien dat OSM iets meer is dan ruis
dan heb je iemand als robert nodig om te
...@rtijn.org]
Verzonden: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 1:29 PM
Aan: OpenStreetMap NL discussion list
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk-nl] Uiterlijk van de kaart
2011/5/17 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
Van: Floris Looijesteijn [mailto:o...@floris.nu]
Verzonden: Monday, May 16
+1
Regards,
Gert Gremmen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Elizabeth Dodd [mailto:ed...@billiau.net]
Verzonden: Sunday, May 01, 2011 4:51 AM
Aan: talk@openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki
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