Even if that might be legally correct it’s not morally correct, as we actually CAN
trace that to persons. Hiding behind a formal legal description will save you from persecution only. Nevertheless naming Skobbler is doing harm to people. No-one should have mentioned the name Skobbler in the first place. I consider this a serious lack of respect and Henks’s first mail is proof of naming and shaming. Gert Van: Barnett, Phillip [mailto:phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk] Verzonden: Friday, August 26, 2011 11:23 AM Aan: 80n CC: talk@openstreetmap.org; Ed Avis Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Membership applications from Skobbler employees PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LONDON WC1X 8XZ UNITED KINGDOM T +44 (0)20 7430 4474 F E phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk WWW.ITN.CO.UK P Please consider the environment. Do you really need to print this email? ________________________________ From: 80n [80n...@gmail.com] Sent: 26 August 2011 07:25 To: Barnett, Phillip Cc: Jim Brown; talk@openstreetmap.org; Ed Avis Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] Membership applications from Skobbler employees On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 1:13 AM, Barnett, Phillip <phillip.barn...@itn.co.uk> wrote: >The OSMF had an obligation, under the UK data protection laws, to preserve the >confidentiality of >personal information. It would have been a breach of >confidence to make it public at the time. Not so. UK Data Protection laws exist to safeguard 'personal' data. Saying that ' there has been a large number of applications for OSMF membership by people who appear to be employees of Apple ' for instance, is perfectly in order - you are not releasing any 'personal data' UNLESS you also released, say, email addresses and names of the people, which can personally identify them, perhaps to back up your assertion. >Saying 'a large number of applications from CloudMade' would have been >effectively the same as >naming the members. You'd only need to look >here>http://web.archive.org/web/20090524055747/http://cloudmade.com/team ><http://web.archive.org/web/20090524055747/http:/cloudmade.com/team> to have >a pretty good idea >of who was a member. Well, this is a sideshow to the main debate, but you are still not revealing personal data, merely a fact about some or all members of a group. You are clear to do this under the UK Data Protection Act. I can say '"Most of the voting population of the UK live in this country" and you can cross-refer to the UK electoral register, for names and addresses, but that doesn't mean I've released the personal details of 40 million people! In this instance, Cloudmade were releasing personal data. But since they're not under UK law, the fact that they released their own employees names and faces and email addresses is presumably between them, their employees, and the US government. HTH Phillip Please Note: Any views or opinions are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Independent Television News Limited unless specifically stated. This email and any files attached are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error, please notify postmas...@itn.co.uk Please note that to ensure regulatory compliance and for the protection of our clients and business, we may monitor and read messages sent to and from our systems. Thank You.
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