Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
Just a bit of a heads up really.
I've just spotted some random changing of
Is there any simple way (i.e. not involving setting up your own Mapnik
server) to test Mapnik rendering locally, without polluting OSM, and
perhaps more importantly, without waiting an hour or more to see your
update.
I'm working on a Virtual-Box image with a complete set up rendering
Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1t=23677
Jeni
2009/10/5 Jennifer Campbell jenuk1...@googlemail.com:
Just a further heads up that this user appears to have posted to SABRE
asking for a way to edit OSM privately. Any suggestions I should pass on
to him? It should keep him from vandalising live data if it was possible.
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 01:15 +1000, John Smith wrote:
For people with good reason to be making dummy edits the dev system
can do this and will also render pretty maps too.
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/
Half correct. It's not yet set up for rendering.
On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.comwrote:
On Mon, 2009-10-05 at 01:15 +1000, John Smith wrote:
For people with good reason to be making dummy edits the dev system
can do this and will also render pretty maps too.
http://api06.dev.openstreetmap.org/
2009/10/4 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com:
If it is a genuine concern about being abused for making mistakes the
people abusing people should be dealt with there is no reason for it,
I'm not sure if you followed the original incident. This was not a
case of an inexperienced mapper making
2009/10/5 Anthony o...@inbox.org:
Is there any simple way (i.e. not involving setting up your own Mapnik
server) to test Mapnik rendering locally, without polluting OSM, and perhaps
more importantly, without waiting an hour or more to see your update.
I thought the dev system was setup to do
anthony,
(sending this to the talk-ph list because your mail server tagged my
message as spam)
I see you have been editing again.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Anthony%20Balico/edits
Your edits seems valid (according to your changeset comment), however,
I appeal that you first remove all
Maning,
To Anthony's credit, he has been deleting some of his contributions that
were sourced from roadguide.ph. An example is this changeset from yesterday:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2542850
Eugene
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:06 PM, maning sambale
Good to know that Eugene.
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:32 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
Maning,
To Anthony's credit, he has been deleting some of his contributions that
were sourced from roadguide.ph. An example is this changeset from yesterday:
Regarding cleaning up and/or removing some tainted data, it could be a tricky
one. I did some cleanup in Ashton Fields in Calamba (and
added landuse and a road stub for future reference); Ponte Verde near the STAR
tollway interchange in Santo Tomas (where there used to
be some edits from
BTW, we're lucky that we don't have to deal with people like RR8. Instead,
all we need now is some understanding and consensus.
Yep, the RR8 issue seems to be a deliberate vandalism. I don't think
this is the same situation with deck and anthony's edits.
Overeagerness maybe the word.
--
Thomas Wood wrote:
Hi list,
Attention was drawn to the OSM user RR8 last night on IRC. It appears
that they have been producing /apparently/ deconstructive edits at a
high frequency since late Saturday evening (server time).
Edits primarily are the reclassification of highways to a different
Rob wrote:
Was just looking at the stats report and happened to notice this account
is editing again after a 15 day quite period.
Not checked the regions or validity at all yet but given the past
history I though I would give a heads up.
Thanks for that - it's been mentioned on Talk-GB
Hi,
I mentioned this issue already to the talk-ph
For instance this:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=8.50999lon=125.9716zoom=15layers=B000FTTT
I've already asked him to remove edits coming from roadguide.ph data.
But he does have some personal trace in Mindanao:
The problem is that it's hard to determine which are the edits worth keeping
and which are not. I would assume that the edits that appear where there is
Yahoo! imagery is valid and those outside are not.
Correct. That's I why I am hesitant to do massive revertion (using
the revert.pl tool).
Maybe on the Metro-manila day we are having those with out cars could setup
shop somewhere and work on things like this for you guys, then when you get
back its just a matter of uploading the new data..
It gives me something to do within the OSM as i would like to contribute but i
have not
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe on the Metro-manila day we are having those with out cars could setup
shop somewhere and work on things like this for you guys, then when you get
back its just a matter of uploading the new data..
Sorry. I don't
Ahh a clean-up party? I get it now. Sounds good to me.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday 18 September 2009 11:34:39 am maning sambale wrote:
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Michael Cole colemic...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe on the
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Which would suggest that the changeset for this needs reversing,
although http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A816 does
hint at the fact that it has been 'de-truncked' and that only some
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:59 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pierenpier...@gmail.com wrote:
And yes, I'm expecting fast reactions from the admins
You're a gold-level member of the OSMF, right? Y'know, the level that
means your annual membership
Jennifer Campbell wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Which would suggest that the changeset for this needs reversing,
although http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=A816 does
hint at the fact that it has been
Tom Hughes schrieb:
On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
As an admin with the technical ability to do these things I'm
On 02/09/09 18:51, Peter Körner wrote:
Tom Hughes schrieb:
On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
As an admin with the
Well that's the problem - the best thing we have at the moment is the
foundation and it's working groups. In this case the Data Working Group
is the appropriate one I guess.
I think a crowdsourced approach against vandalism would scale better
than dedicated working-groups. See my
2009/9/2 Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu:
Yes, but who appointed him as the arbiter? Whoever is making the
decision needs to be selected by and accountable to the community in
some way, not self-appointed.
FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand and respect that
you don't want the final
On 02/09/09 19:55, Dermot McNally wrote:
2009/9/2 Tom Hughest...@compton.nu:
Yes, but who appointed him as the arbiter? Whoever is making the
decision needs to be selected by and accountable to the community in
some way, not self-appointed.
FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand
Dermot McNally wrote:
FFS Tom, you can't have it both ways. I understand and respect
that you don't want the final decision resting, by default, with you
as the man with the stick. This being so, you have to be prepared
to assess the claims of individual mappers on their merits, having
2009/9/2 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net:
The you in you have to be prepared to assess is not Tom, it's OSMF. OSMF
is the nearest to a community-appointed arbiter that we have. In particular,
it's OSMF's Data Working Group:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group
Clifford Nolan wrote:
Please stop this person from doing any more damage. RR8 is still
editing as I write - can the account be suspended a.s.a.p., please?
I was going to say - seconded but I think that some of the changes just
need cross referencing.
2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk
On 01/09/09 09:16, Lester Caine wrote:
2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk route to a primary route
which CURRENTLY is probably correct ... except -
I think that it would be useful to designate
http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk as a cross reference for the trunk and
primary designations -
On 01/09/09 10:13, Lester Caine wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 01/09/09 09:16, Lester Caine wrote:
2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk route to a primary route
which CURRENTLY is probably correct ... except -
I think that it would be useful to designate
http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk as
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 01/09/09 09:16, Lester Caine wrote:
2326103 declassifies the A816 from a trunk route to a primary route
which CURRENTLY is probably correct ... except -
I think that it would be useful to designate
http://www.sabre-roads.org.uk as a cross reference for the trunk and
Tom Hughes wrote:
Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
primary A roads with green signs).
Indeed:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/916074
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/144953
cheers
Richard
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View
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
primary A roads with green signs).
Indeed:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/916074
On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
primary A roads with green signs).
Indeed:
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/916074
Tom Hughes wrote:
On 01/09/09 16:23, Lester Caine wrote:
Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Tom Hughes wrote:
Unless something has changed in the last few years them at least
some parts of the A816 are trunk (in the OSM sense of being
primary A roads with green signs).
Indeed:
2009/9/1 Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk:
I was going to say - seconded but I think that some of the changes just
need cross referencing.
I can't speak for his edits elsewhere (though some seem to have been
at best incautious), but every _single_ change he made in Ireland (and
there were many)
What Dermot is saying with regard to the edits this user made in
Ireland is correct.
This users editing was careless, ignorant, and whimsical. I have yet
to decide if it was malicious.
I think It may be a good idea to contact contributors in Iceland
(where he has done more editing than elsewhere)
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:56 PM, Larry O'Neilllarryone...@gmail.com wrote:
What Dermot is saying with regard to the edits this user made in
Ireland is correct.
This users editing was careless, ignorant, and whimsical. I have yet
to decide if it was malicious.
I think It may be a good idea to
Hi,
Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
Comments like that are not helpful at all. If that's really your
attitude then find yourself a tightly
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Frederik Rammfrede...@remote.org wrote:
Hi,
Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
Comments like that are not
On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
As an admin with the technical ability to do these things I'm perfectly
capable of
2009/9/2 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
Comments like that are not helpful at all. If that's really
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Pierenpier...@gmail.com wrote:
And yes, I'm expecting fast reactions from the admins
You're a gold-level member of the OSMF, right? Y'know, the level that
means your annual membership fee is the same cost as a full time admin
to do your beck and call, right?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Dermot McNallyderm...@gmail.com wrote:
But what we are dealing with here is a proven vandal who won't engage
with community members.
Action required.
Yes. By you.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Vandalism#Vandalism_response
Doesn't mention demanding
On 01/09/2009 23:40, Tom Hughes wrote:
On 01/09/09 23:02, Pieren wrote:
I'm just questionning myself if I will continue to contribute to OSM
if the admins are not able to react faster to something which looks
like the worst form of vandalism.
As an admin with the technical ability to do
Hi,
Pieren wrote:
I say that because I spent a little bit time to look the edits of this
person, working intensively in different countries with a lot of short
edits and after one day of the first alarms about this user.
But do you even have anyhing to prove that this is vandalism? Just
2009/9/2 Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com:
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Dermot McNallyderm...@gmail.com wrote:
But what we are dealing with here is a proven vandal who won't engage
with community members.
Action required.
Yes. By you.
2009/9/2 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
But do you even have anyhing to prove that this is vandalism? Just
because a new account makes lots of edits in different places doesn't
mean anything... there might be a pre-existing group of people on some
mailing list and one of them says hey,
From: Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org
Pieren wrote:
I say that because I spent a little bit time to look the edits of this
person, working intensively in different countries with a lot of short
edits and after one day of the first alarms about this user.
But do you even have anyhing to
To add to this, this user is failing to reply to messages and
continuing to edit (currently in Iceland). I can't speak for the
usefulness of his edits there, but he certainly seems prolific.
Right now I'm torn between my desire to fix the core of the Irish road
network and my fear that he'll
Please stop this person from doing any more damage. RR8 is still editing as
I write - can the account be suspended a.s.a.p., please?
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Cliff.
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From: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal (assistance
required in various countries)
To: Talk Openstreetmap t...@openstreetmap.org
Hi list,
Attention was drawn
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From: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:47 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal (assistance
required
Hi list,
Attention was drawn to the OSM user RR8 last night on IRC. It appears
that they have been producing /apparently/ deconstructive edits at a
high frequency since late Saturday evening (server time).
Edits primarily are the reclassification of highways to a different
level. This has occured
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