Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-07 Thread Richard Z.
On Wed, Mar 05, 2014 at 10:53:09PM -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: Why do I see so many new mappers make edits without a commit comment? Is it because iD doesn't prompt for a commit message? iD issue 1488 is open but not acted upon. I wonder why. Is it because the developers don't think commit

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-07 Thread Peter Barth
Hi, Richard Z. schrieb: another problem that makes the history (from the map page) almost useless is that about 2/3 of all changesets indicate a very large change area box. Seems like most wheelmap.org edits change the whole planet at once. Somehow the locality of changesets should be

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Peter Wendorff
IMHO commit comments are very useful if done right. Some comments are as useless as no comment (e.g. changes, more changes and so on), but asking/reminding/triggering users to give a comment at least increases the ratio of given comments; and hopefully that could increas the ratio of useful

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Hughes
On 06/03/14 06:53, Clifford Snow wrote: Why do I see so many new mappers make edits without a commit comment? Is it because iD doesn't prompt for a commit message? iD issue 1488 is open but not acted upon. I wonder why. Is it because the developers don't think commit comments are needed? Why

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 03/06/2014 07:53 AM, Clifford Snow wrote: Why do I see so many new mappers make edits without a commit comment? Is it because iD doesn't prompt for a commit message? Well it doesn't force you but the changeset comment field is well visible IMHO. I'm wondering what the community

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 06/03/2014, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I think the answer to your question is simply that many people are too lazy to enter one. If comparing editors, there's also the fact that iD users tend to save much more often than JOSM users, making smaller changesets. Give a description of

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 06/mar/2014 um 12:45 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com: If comparing editors, there's also the fact that iD users tend to save much more often than JOSM users, making smaller changesets last week there was a user on talk-it who lost 2 hours of work with ID because of a

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Pierre Béland
6h57 Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD Am 06/mar/2014 um 12:45 schrieb moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.com: If comparing editors, there's also the fact that iD users tend to save much more often than JOSM users, making smaller changesets last week there was a user

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Tom Hughes
On 06/03/14 15:02, Richard Z. wrote: would it be technically doable that the JOSM and ID would automatically generate a short summary of the changes, something like 3 highway edited, 1 waterways deleted, 50 tag only changes would become 3he,1000wd,50t after which the user could provide a

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 06/mar/2014 um 16:04 schrieb Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu: For the love of god, no. +1, the point of a changeset comment is to give information that is not contained in the changes itself (eg about the why, like removed restaurant because it is closed etc) while everything intrinsic is

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) iD: total changesets: 1,744,610 changesets with a comment: 745,774 43% comment rate Potlatch2: total changesets: 3,594,415 changesets with comment: 1,971,298 54% comment rate JOSM: total changesets: 10,289,418 changesets

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 06/03/2014, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) Interesting numbers, thanks. What these numbers don't show is how many comments are useless repeated fixed problems ones. JOSM auto-fills the comment with whatever

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Toby Murray
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 4:51 PM, moltonel 3x Combo molto...@gmail.comwrote: On 06/03/2014, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) Interesting numbers, thanks. What these numbers don't show is how many comments are

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Clifford Snow
Toby, this is great data. Thanks. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com wrote: Here, let's have some numbers. As of the last changeset dump (Feb. 28th) iD: total changesets: 1,744,610 changesets with a comment: 745,774 43% comment rate What got me first was the

Re: [OSM-talk] No Changeset Comments from iD

2014-03-06 Thread Stephan Knauss
Richard Z. writes: would it be technically doable that the JOSM and ID would automatically generate a short summary of the changes, something like 3 highway edited, 1 waterways deleted, 50 tag only changes would become 3he,1000wd,50t after which the user could provide a more generic