Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Erik Johansson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Michal Migurski wrote: I'm hesitant to blow away the existing guide, but I wonder if it can be moved behind a disambiguation page? Something that lets you understand different levels of involvement: found a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Thompson
2009/1/15 Erik Johansson e...@kth.se: On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Michal Migurski wrote: I'm hesitant to blow away the existing guide, but I wonder if it can be moved behind a disambiguation page? Something that lets you understand

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Andy Allan
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Both of these are going to have to wait for the AS3 rewrite, Wait - who are you, and what have you done with RichardF? Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-15 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Allan wrote: Wait - who are you, and what have you done with RichardF? I'm Fake SteveC. At least that's what people keep telling me. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-14 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Michal Migurski wrote: I'm hesitant to blow away the existing guide, but I wonder if it can be moved behind a disambiguation page? Something that lets you understand different levels of involvement: found a mistake, need to add a street, have a spreadsheet of local amenities, live in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Mike Harris
imagining this?!). Mike Harris -Original Message- From: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sent: 12 January 2009 15:07 To: Talk Openstreetmap Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again Gert Gremmen wrote: Thank you Thomas, The image you provided to prove your solution

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Ed Loach
Mike wrote: Also - for what it's worth - I find that I use both Potlatch and JOSM but for different tasks. I use JOSM as my main editor and for doing bulk work on new routes. I find Potlatch is better for doing minor tweaks and also for Yahoo tracing (even with the JOSM plugins, the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Barnett, Phillip
[mailto:talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Ed Loach Sent: 13 January 2009 13:41 To: 'Mike Harris' Cc: 'OSM-Talk' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again Mike wrote: Also - for what it's worth - I find that I use both Potlatch and JOSM but for different tasks. I use JOSM as my main editor

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Phillip Barnett wrote: I believe Richard did the rectification for Potlatch and claims it to be better than JOSM's. True for NPE but not for Yahoo - Potlatch just uses the standard Yahoo Flash component, it doesn't do any extra fiddling around (well, other than a tiny tweak to get the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread John07
Mike Harris schrieb: As a relative newbie I still remember my first experiences with both Potlatch and JOSM. I have no idea whether my own experience is typical but I did find the learning curve steeper on Potlatch than on JOSM even though the wikis imply the opposite. I think that Richard may

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Michal Migurski
Well, one of the reasons is that our beginners' documentation is the weakest part of the whole caboodle. Put yourself in the position of a newbie. You're not sure what to do (as Chris Schmidt observed on #irc, editing topology is hard) - you may not even realise that the roads have to link

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Raphaël Jacquot
Michal Migurski wrote: I'm looking at replacing MS VEarth imagery in http://oakland.crimespotting.org/crimes with OSM, and I've been working on how to introduce the idea of an editable map to our (non-technical) visitors. OpenStreetBugs offers an obvious pathway in, though my

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-13 Thread Michal Migurski
I'm looking at replacing MS VEarth imagery in http://oakland.crimespotting.org/crimes with OSM, and I've been working on how to introduce the idea of an editable map to our (non-technical) visitors. OpenStreetBugs offers an obvious pathway in, though my experience observing local

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Dave Stubbs
2009/1/12 Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: Thank you Thomas, The image you provided to prove your solution was a complete surprise to me and may contribute to a solution for this everlasting Potlatch Critic. You are right, and I am right. My screen looks entirely different, due to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Steven Le Roux
) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Thomas Wood [mailto:grand.edgemas...@gmail.com] Verzonden: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:09 PM Aan: Gert Gremmen CC: Talk Openstreetmap Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again 2009/1/11 Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: OSM fellows and friends, Sorry

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gert Gremmen wrote: Thank you Thomas, The image you provided to prove your solution was a complete surprise to me and may contribute to a solution for this everlasting Potlatch Critic. You are right, and I am right. My screen looks entirely different, due to the missed option (I mean: I

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Andy Allan
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: (There's even a case for having z20 as super-thin lines because, by definition, if you're editing at z20 you want precision.) Or super-fat ones, to remind everyone that no matter how carefully you're working,

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-12 Thread Sebastian Hohmann
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: So why do people get it wrong? And I'm not doubting that they do. Well, one of the reasons is that our beginners' documentation is the weakest part of the whole caboodle. Put yourself in the position of a newbie. You're not sure what to do (as Chris Schmidt

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/1/11 Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: OSM fellows and friends, Sorry for bringing this up again…. We have been discussing Potlatch lately. Take a look at this: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/?zoom=18lat=52.05674lon=4.33844layers=B000F and at this :

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Gert Gremmen wrote: POTLATCH NEEDS IMPROVEMENT Yeah, well spotted, genius. Where's your fucking patch? Meanwhile - oh look, what's that on my screen? Fuck me if it isn't the fucking Potlatch source. Maybe I'm improving the fucking thing. http://www.systemeD.net/osm/screenshot.png Maybe a

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again

2009-01-11 Thread Gert Gremmen
] Verzonden: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:09 PM Aan: Gert Gremmen CC: Talk Openstreetmap Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch again 2009/1/11 Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl: OSM fellows and friends, Sorry for bringing this up again We have been discussing Potlatch lately. Take a look