Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

Being a closed way with area=yes does not mean they aren't connected to the underlying ways: I don't think router be bothered by this. Yves Le 16 août 2018 02:14:49 GMT+02:00, David Fox a écrit : >Barriers, by definition, provide some level of restriction. Without >attaching them in some form

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: > Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet > been mapped. > > If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster > of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull them into JOSM > and map them as

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

Hi Tomasz, Could you elaborate on what would be the use-case for this approach and why that is relevant? At the moment I do not see the relevance for mappnig them as an area. Cheers, dikkenodel Van: Yves Verzonden: Thursday, August 16, 2018 8:20:59 AM Aan:

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

Hedges can certainly be areas, some can be a few metres thick. A common mapping scenario is a thick hedge and a stile at each side. The only way to represent this is to map as an area and map the stiles as nodes connected to the outline. Phil (trigpoint) On 16 August 2018 01:14:49 BST, David

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On 16/08/18 17:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, john whelan wrote: Could this be used to detect villages and towns which have not yet been mapped. If something could drop some sort of marker where it thinks a cluster of buildings are then we could use overpass to pull

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: > > As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not > challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those outlines. The good thing about verifiability and

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On 16/08/18 19:26, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: As that particular mapper has local knowledge on their side I'd not challenge them. Why not? I would love to see some ground level or aerial/satellite images documenting the verifiability of those outlines.

[OSM-talk] As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume - The New York Times

This may be of interest: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/technology/google-maps- neighborhood-names.html -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On Thursday 16 August 2018, Warin wrote: > > Satellite imagery is available for the world.. > But how much do you know of Africa? > [...] You maybe don't realize that but the kind of data garbage i pointed to is the direct result of projecting ideas and experiences of settlement structures of

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) less contentious (since a building is a building is a building), and (ii) more accurate for

Re: [OSM-talk] [test] Customized Taginfo : 620 areas - every country and some new experimental features ( ~ 1 week test )

Hello, It's an impressive job. It can really help. Just a note about France, you split France on admin_level=6, this result on around 100 pieces, it does not make sens. For France admin_level=4 is the only right level of sub area. Like for France or other countries, sub levels is interesting

Re: [OSM-talk] As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume - The New York Times

On 2018-08-16 16:03, Tom Pfeifer wrote: On 16.08.2018 13:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: This may be of interest: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/technology/google-maps-neighborhood-names.html Scary. Can we revert Google? Google does not seem to take much responsibility. When you look at the

Re: [OSM-talk] As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume - The New York Times

On 16.08.2018 13:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: This may be of interest: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/02/technology/google-maps-neighborhood-names.html Scary. Can we revert Google? tom ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

Hi, On 16.08.2018 09:56, Christoph Hormann wrote: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61401087 Btw I have commented on this changeset. Apparently the main use case is having a general indication of "there are people living here". In a way, it's what we did in Western Europe when we only

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

Claire who added these polygons  is a resident of DR Congo. She coordinated with me the North-Kivu OSM Response in 2012, coordinating with the UN agencies and NGO's in Kinshasa.  She is coordinator of OSM-DRC and coordinator of this OSM Response for the Ebola outbreak around Beni, working

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

> And we took the decision to use this info > to spot rapidly the populated areas. «Take time» to look at these > polygons one by one  (we did) and you will see that they reflect > adequately the density of housing in these areas. No, they don't (at least not for any meaningful definition of

[OSM-talk] State of the Map US Early Bird tickets end tomorrow!

A few quick reminders about... State of the Map US  Detroit, MI · October 5-7th  The reduced-price tickets will be available until midnight tomorrow on Friday, August 17th. Sign up today before the price doubles… https://2018.stateofthemap.us/ By the

Re: [Talk-it] marciapiede o non-marciapiede?

[0] è un frequente problema con i sensori dei smartphone montati su bici senza ammortizzatore. I valori nel campo EXIF del file JPEG indicano - falsamente - che lo smartphone era rovesciato. Tengo una lista delle foto problemtiche e, periodicamente, la mando a Mapillary, e loro fnno la correzione.

Re: [Talk-it] marciapiede o non-marciapiede?

Il 16/08/2018 19:49, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: [0] è un frequente problema con i sensori dei smartphone montati su bici senza ammortizzatore. I valori nel campo EXIF del file JPEG indicano - falsamente - che lo smartphone era rovesciato. Tengo una lista delle foto problemtiche e,

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On Thursday 16 August 2018, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > In a way, it's what we did in Western Europe when we only had Landsat > imagery: "Uh, this looks like a settlement, let's draw a grey blob" Absolutely not. The settlement structure of Western Europe can be pretty accurately mapped from

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

An use case for allow mapping barrier=block as asreas is a better visualisation of a landcoverage. Mapping aeral objects as a nodes makes the map a little bit lied. -- Wiadomość oryginalna -- Od: "Philip Barnes" Do: talk@openstreetmap.org; "David Fox" ; "Tomasz Wójcik" Data:

[Talk-it] marciapiede o non-marciapiede?

(Sicuramente l'ennesima volta che qualcuno pone questa domanda) Questa strada [1] - sul ponte, ha due marcipiedi (definiti dalle con lastre di pietra) o no? (sidewalk=both o sidewalk=no) - nel primo piano, ha due marciapiedi (uno delimitato da una striscia bianca e l'altro definito dalle lastre

Re: [Talk-it] marciapiede o non-marciapiede?

Il 16/08/2018 19:31, Volker Schmidt ha scritto: (Sicuramente l'ennesima volta che qualcuno pone questa domanda) Questa strada [1] - sul ponte, ha due marcipiedi (definiti dalle con lastre di pietra) o no? (sidewalk=both o sidewalk=no) - nel primo piano, ha due marciapiedi (uno delimitato da una

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

On 15.08.2018 20:49, Tomasz Wójcik wrote: > Currently, barrier=block is not allowed to be mapped as an area. As > blocks can be big enough to map them as areas, I think it should be > allowed, the same as in barrier=wall or barrier=hedge. For routing purposes, barriers are usually connected to

Re: [Talk-it] Uso di OSM in Facebook

Ciao La questione facebook e openstreetmap come tu stesso hai sottolineato, non è una novità. Una uscita pubblica (2016) che spesso riporto nelle mie slide è questa "Through collaboration with the OpenStreetMap community, we believe we can enable greater transparency, deliver the best local

Re: [OSM-talk] As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume - The New York Times

Time to choose a name of your choice for your own neighborhood in OSM, after all we are or close to be the next authoritative source :) Yves Le 16 août 2018 16:40:06 GMT+02:00, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : > > >sent from a phone > >> On 16. Aug 2018, at 16:25, Maarten Deen wrote: >> >>

[Talk-it] Uso di OSM in Facebook

Quanto c'è di nuovo in questo? https://blog.mapbox.com/facebook-uses-mapbox-maps-11364481516e (Nelle immagini non vedo quanto sia accessibile l'attribuzione a OSM. È OSM, no? In teoria potrebbero essere mappe/dati di altri.) Ho visto un po' di notizie da SotM sul contributo di Facebook a OSM

[OSM-talk] Arkhivna Street

"This street has over a half-dozen names, all at once." https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/arkhivna-street Mapped here, but without all those names: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/234767127 -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [OSM-talk] Barrier=block areas

If the thought is to map a group of blocks as an area .. then my vote is no at least without more information. It raises the question as to what the level of obstruction is - are motorcycles bared by this barrier? Horses? How badly are pedestrians impeded? What about people in wheelchairs? So

Re: [Talk-it] Uso di OSM in Facebook

sent from a phone > On 16. Aug 2018, at 21:48, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > > È stata sollevata la critica che l'attribuzione non è ben fatta. > Dal mio punto di vista, invece, così va bene. > Attendo però qualche critica qui. la prima mappa (piccola) che si vede (al meno su mobile) non

Re: [Talk-it] Uso di OSM in Facebook

Il giorno gio 16 ago 2018 alle ore 20:58 Federico Leva (Nemo) < nemow...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > > Non so per OSM, ma per Wikipedia e Wikidata è stato problematico non > avere alcuna visibilità su quanto e dove (in che lingue e paesi) Google > estendesse Knowledge Graph, perché era impossibile

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On Thursday 16 August 2018, Rory McCann wrote: > What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset > comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight > up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) > less contentious (since a building is a

Re: [OSM-talk] AI detecting of buildings Idle thoughts

On 16/08/2018 12:35, Rory McCann wrote: What's funny is that this import was (according to the changeset comment) based on "DigitalGlobe extracted building data". A straight up import of the original building geometries would probably be (i) less contentious (since a building is a building is a

Re: [OSM-talk] As Google Maps Renames Neighborhoods, Residents Fume - The New York Times

sent from a phone > On 16. Aug 2018, at 16:25, Maarten Deen wrote: > > This has been pointed out to Google many, many times (through their > inadequate feedback tool and via Google employees) and has long been ignored. > It has now been corrected don’t help them. The worse their errors

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 16/08/2018 14:45, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: Hi, I am a bit surprised that an editing war or even a block would even be considered in this case! Err?... I clearly said that what I *don't* want. DaveF ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

Hi A contributor has been reverting my changesets over the past few days: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tms13/history#map=7/56.741/-4.252 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61655207 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61623830#map=11/56.4828/-3.2425 As I don't wish to get into an

Re: [Talk-us] State Open Data (Brian May)

> If a billionaire is reading this list and wants to put their money > towards doing a lot of public good and good for the economy in general > (data is the new oil), they could make the sky rain lawyers! I share your enthusiasm for billionaires with idiosyncratic obsessions (who doesn't like

Re: [talk-au] Talk-au Digest, Vol 134, Issue 8

Thanks Andrew. I'm working with the Targomo API (https://www.targomo.com), which does consider sidewalk tags, if present. I won't be removing the already mapped footways. You are correct - shouldn't interfere. Cheers, Adam Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2018 11:17:04 +1000 > From: Andrew Davidson > To:

[OSM-talk-fr] La dernière version de PT_Assistant vient d'être publié

Salutations, La dernière version du greffon PT_Assistant vient d'être publié pour un usage général. Il y a quelques jours déjà, mais je voulais encore tester un peu avant de l'annoncer. Il fonctionne avec josm_tested.jar. Pour le mettre à jour il faut peut-être mettre à jour votre liste de

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 16/08/18 14:24, Dave F wrote: A contributor has been reverting my changesets over the past few days: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/tms13/history#map=7/56.741/-4.252 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61655207 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61623830#map=11/56.4828/-3.2425

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 16/08/18 14:45, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk wrote: How can this issue be resolved without alienating and driving away long time contributors to OSM? I thought that we were heading towards indicating whether the reference was signed, but keeping the reference. I'd go further and say that,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

Isn't there a code of conduct for automated edits which calls for documentation and discussion before the edits are performed? Precisely to avoid this kind of situation. Rgds Brian On 16 August 2018 at 14:45, webmas...@killyfole.org.uk < webmas...@killyfole.org.uk> wrote: > Hi, > > I am a bit

[Talk-us] [Talk-us-nps] North Carolina National Park

Nic, I'm CCing the general talk-us on this, since National Forests are outside of the separate from the National Park Service, and there may be someone there who can provide more guidance. In this particular case the Pocosin Wilderness Area is managed by the Forest Service (part of the US Dept

[OSRM-talk] Customized Route Planning using OSRM

Hello, I am new to routing engines and trying to get familiar with OSRM. I need a road segment editor for routing where I should be able to enter the percentage of the road types that I want to my route to have. For example, let road types be Motorway, Urban and Rural and I enter [30%],[40%] and

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] wikidata vs brand:wikidata : le challenge MapRoulette

Hello, Je suis encore retombé cette semaine sur des magasins avec un tag wikidata. Est-ce qu'on a avancé un peu sur le sujet ? La page wiki avec la liste des magasins ne contient qu'une quinzaine d'éléments : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_France/Marques_et_cha%C3%AEnes On

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] wikidata vs brand:wikidata : le challenge MapRoulette

Bonjour, Pas sûr que ça marche ou soit fait pour, mais si on ajoute sur cette page un ensemble de tag wikidata=* que l'on indique de transformer en brand:wikidata=*, ça fait pas le boulot côté Osmose ? Pour le coup ce serait simple à mettre en place, il ne resterait plus qu'à générer cette

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

Hi, I am a bit surprised that an editing war or even a block would even be considered in this case! This user has been editing from 2009 and has 11k edits under their belt. They are obviously very passionate and dedicated to OSM and have gone to a lot of trouble and spent a lot of time to

Re: [Talk-cz] Kontrola uctu pro fotky rozcestniku

Ahoj, po delší době mám už něco, co se dá aspoň jako prototyp ukázat. Zatím stále není dořešeno několik důležitých věcí, některé počkají, jiné před produkčním spuštěním ještě musím dotáhnout. Pokud by byl někdo ochotný udělat pokusného králíka, budu rád když se mi ozve. Základní info a další

Re: [Talk-dk] Hosting af autoAWS

Hej Søren. On 2018-08-15 13:58, Soren Johannessen wrote: > Vores GIS mand har lige kigget på wiki'en og ser at du kræver et > windows miljø for dit script. Jonathan skriver blot at han har anvendt WampServer[1] (en specifik WAMP-distribution[2]) til at eksekvere scriptet med indtil nu. Så vidt

[Talk-africa] PONT OF CONTACT"MIPANGO YOUTH MAPPERS"

Hi, i am GERALD ZACHARIA ___ Talk-africa mailing list Talk-africa@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-africa

[Talk-us] buggy buildings in Maryland

Hi, over the last 2 years, DWG has had a three different complaints about a buggy building import that has been run on and off by the user "annapolissailor". The import was problematic in many ways, most obviously because huge batches of un-used nodes were uploaded and later it was attempted to

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

On 16/08/2018 16:00, David Woolley wrote: I thought that we were heading towards indicating whether the reference was signed, but keeping the reference. The reference is kept. It's being transferred from multiple different keys (listed in my OP) to just one. One of the thing on my to-do

[Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

> > I wanted to let you know about proposed change in tagging the name of > USA and I seek for the feedback about it - see the proposition here: > > https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=63384 >

Re: [Talk-us] [Talk-us-nps] [EXTERNAL] North Carolina National Park

a : > > http://data.nconemap.gov/geoportal/catalog/main/home.page (type marea in > search box) > or > https://irma.nps.gov/DataStore/Reference/Profile/2224545?lnv=True > > Not too sure which data to take or how they works. > > Thank you very much for your help. >

[Talk-us] State of the Map US Early Bird tickets end tomorrow!

A few quick reminders about... State of the Map US  Detroit, MI · October 5-7th  The reduced-price tickets will be available until midnight tomorrow on Friday, August 17th. Sign up today before the price doubles… https://2018.stateofthemap.us/ By the

Re: [Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

I am opposed to this suggestion, because there are two countries called "United States" in North America: the United States of America, and the United States of Mexico. Yes, when people say "United States" they typically mean America and not Mexico, but the USA is just as often referred to as

Re: [Talk-us] buggy buildings in Maryland

Thanks for bringing this up, Frederik. I reached out to the user in a changeset and a mail thread (links below) and was under the impression that they would fix the problem. Was that really two years ago? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/41375854 - changeset

[Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

Hi, I wanted to let you know about proposed change in tagging the name of USA and I seek for the feedback about it - see the proposition here: https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=63384

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Instabilité des connexions à OSM.org

J'ai même des erreurs de versions SSL. On dirait que certains serveurs ont du mal avec certains certificats de sécurité, ou les parefeux d'OSM.org sont un peu susceptibles et finissent à la suite de ces erreurs par fermer des sessions agressivement. Je pense qu'il y a des imports massifs vers la

[OSM-talk-fr] Instabilité des connexions à OSM.org

Depuis quelques temps les connexions au site OSM.org sont très erratiques, les envois à la base de données comme au serveur carto et serveur de tuiles cessent de répondre (pas d'acquitement, perte de session...), les connexions HTTPS échouent aléatoirement (erreurs de connexion, échec de

[OSM-talk-fr] State of The Map 2018 - Milan

Bonsoir, Suite à la conférence internationale SotM 2018, je vous invite à lire cet article détaillé, écrit par Paul Desgranges et complété collaborativement par d'autres membres de la communauté française et de l'association OpenStreetMap France.

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Shropshire Wildlife Trust

Hi Phil You might have noticed some editing from me in Shrewsbury- that arises from a very productive meeting I had with Robin Mager of the SWT. The upshot is that he will investigate giving us access under an open licence of the drone imagery they're assembling of their reserves. He's also

Re: [Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

W dniu 16.08.2018 o 19:33, Jack Burke pisze: > Yes, when people say "United States" they typically mean America and > not Mexico, but the USA is just as often referred to as "America" as > it is "United States," which is another reason not to proceed with the > change. Hi, Jack! I think that key

Re: [Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

W dniu 16.08.2018 o 19:43, Volker Schmidt pisze: > Looks somewhat strange to me in view of the preamble of the US > Constitution: > " We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect > Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the > common defence,

Re: [Talk-GB] 'C' class roads references.

>On what basis is 'highway_authority_ref' being put forward since I don't think the councils who allocate the references for C and U roads are actually the 'highway_authority' Hi Lester, I expect the basis is the Highways Act 1980 which defines them as "Local Highways Authorities". I'm not sure

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] projet du mois : limite de vitesse 80/90 ?

Le 16/08/2018 à 00:49, laurent-38 - laurent.riffard+nab...@free.fr a écrit : Jérôme Seigneuret-3 wrote Bonjour, Sauf que pour les 80 ou 90 ou 110 en soit il n'y a pas l'obligation d'avoir un panneau. Le code de la route dit 130 km/h sur les autoroutes ; 110 km/h sur les routes à deux

[Talk-us] place=locality on rail junction

I notice around me that the map appears cluttered by a number of 'place=locality' points with alphanumeric names like 'CPF 499' which appear to be the reference numbers of rail junctions. Tellingly, the objects all seem to have been added by user 'NE2', who was well known a few years ago for

[Talk-us] Whole-US Garmin Map update - 2018-08-15

These are based off of Lambertus's work here: http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl If you have questions or comments about these maps, please feel free to ask. However, please do not send me private mail. The odds are, someone else will have the same questions, and by asking on the talk-us@

Re: [Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

The Articles of Confederation included the text, "The Stile of this Confederation shall be the 'United States of America'" The Constitution omits any declaration of the correct name and style, and in fact uses both styles, even in the Preamble. as Daniel Koć observes. There are conspiracy

Re: [Talk-us] buggy buildings in Maryland

Hi, On 08/16/2018 08:08 PM, Elliott Plack wrote: > I'd say go ahead and remove the extraneous nodes This has now been done. > and also any buildings > that are either version 0 or do not have any new tags (like names or > addresses) It appears that of the 177,151 buildings still there, only

Re: [Talk-br] Doações para a futura associação, favor declarar

Acho bom tocar nesta questão, Peter. Esta questão do domínio atualmente registrado como "http://www.openstreetmap.com.br; me parece precisaria ser regularizada. Chegamos brevemente a abordar o assunto no telegram-associação (https://t.me/AssociacaoOsmBrasil). O fato de necessitar regularizar a

[Talk-transit] Revisiting the use of ref in bus stops

I am using GO-Sync, gtfs-osm-sync, to synchronize data for AC Transit. For AC Transit, the gtfs_id, or stop_code, can be used to identify the stop. That's the number on the sign, and can be as a phone code. For example, stop code is 56669 stop_name is: "MacArthur Blvd:Randolph Av" stop name

Re: [Talk-us] Proposition for changing the common name tag

I'll refrain from whether adding (or not) "of America" to the end has anything to do with cabals or sovereignty. I agree with Kevin (and others) that adding "it is never incorrect to add it" (can't hurt), usually helps and distinguishes Mexican states from the fifty north of the Rio Grande (in

Re: [Talk-transit] Revisiting the use of ref in bus stops

On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 5:55 PM, Kevin Dalley wrote: > I am using GO-Sync, gtfs-osm-sync, to synchronize data for AC Transit. > > For AC Transit, the gtfs_id, or stop_code, can be used to identify the > stop. That's the number on the sign, and can be as a phone code. > > For example, > > stop