Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Popper attribution on mobile map?

2008-04-27 Thread SteveC
On 25 Apr 2008, at 16:50, Martijn Pannevis wrote: Let me say this again: I didn't want to annoy anyone, we do want to adhere to the OSM license, but I just want to know how to do that best. Look, I've told you what has been advised to everyone in a similar situation to you. All of those

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Jeffrey Martin
Does the project have any long term plans on how to deal with vandalism? Should some features be locked? Do we need some kind of hierarchy with block captains and country coordinators? (I don't want that.) On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:36 AM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping while hiking

2008-04-27 Thread Lauri Hahne
2008/4/27 Igor Brejc [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Charles Basenga Kiyanda wrote: Thanks for the suggestions. I hadn't thought about clipping the receiver to the top of my backpack. I also hadn't thought that a lot of small movement, compared to a steady stable displacement, might lower the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-27 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 07:24 +0600, Francois De Ryckel wrote: We have a similar issue in Bangaldesh http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=8lat=23.43505lon=89.95194layers=B00T Any ways to restore the square missing? These are due to errors in the coastline ways. The red lines

Re: [OSM-talk] RSS Feed for Image of the Week

2008-04-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
Now on Planet OpenStreetMap: http://planet-osm.shaunmcdonald.me.uk/ On 27 Apr 2008, at 07:40, Jochen Topf wrote: Hi! If you want to always see the current Image of the Week in your RSS reader, point it at http://geo.topf.org/iotw.rss There is a little script behind it, that gets the

[OSM-talk] Holux M-241

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Back in March I asked for user-friendly GPS datalogger recommendations, and a handful of people kindly posted their experiences. One unit that people were interested in was the Holux M-241. The main downside seemed to be that it would only record a trackpoint every 5s. I gather there's now

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-27 Thread David Groom
blank - Original Message - From: Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Francois De Ryckel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water] On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 07:24 +0600, Francois De Ryckel

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-27 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 15:32 +0100, David Groom wrote: http://tile.openstreetmap.nl/coastlines.html?zoom=8lat=23.43505lon=89.95194layers=B00T Any ways to restore the square missing? These are due to errors in the coastline ways. The red lines and circles highlight the location of the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-27 Thread David Groom
- Original Message - From: Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Groom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org Sent: Sunday, April 27, 2008 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water] On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 15:32 +0100, David Groom wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to roll back changes made by user Katie after 17:40 on April 16? I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and the like beyond those in the editors, so everyone is on an equal

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism, was Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 7:58 AM, Jeffrey Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does the project have any long term plans on how to deal with vandalism? There's more ideas than there are developers willing and capable of implementing them! Should some features be locked? Do we need some kind of

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/04/2008 17:25, Andy Allan wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to roll back changes made by user Katie after 17:40 on April 16? I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and the like beyond those in

[OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Skywave
You can convert that file. Just search for 04to05.pl in SVN/TRAC On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27/04/2008 17:25, Andy Allan wrote: On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:36 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to roll back changes made

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 26/04/2008 23:36, David Earl wrote: This user has removed or overlaid quite a few roads around Trumpington, Cambridge, and replaced several streets with cycleways, run a tertiary road along the river and across a farm track, and generally made a complete mess of my careful mapping in

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Andy Allan
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 5:41 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't believe that there are any tools available for rollback and the like beyond those in the editors, so everyone is on an equal footing when it comes to rolling back. Oh. I thought this had been done. It might

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 6:41 PM, David Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh. I thought this had been done. So what happens if someone deletes the whole of Cambridge? What I used to do was after uploading an area I also saved it to disk. So I had saved copies of my neighbourhood. If you noticed

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
David Earl wrote: If nothing else, Richard, can the apparent bug with the mode buttons be fixed and the text make it clearer that live data is being changed when you press start? It's not a bug as such - it's currently intentional that it defaults to edit the data - but I do agree

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread David Earl
On 27/04/2008 17:49, Skywave wrote: You can convert that file. Just search for 04to05.pl in SVN/TRAC Thanks! That almost worked - the conversion left some empty strings in the XML which JOSM didn't like, but removing those redundant lines got me the data I needed.# With copy and paste

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Apr 2008, at 17:52, David Earl wrote: On 26/04/2008 23:36, David Earl wrote: This user has removed or overlaid quite a few roads around Trumpington, Cambridge, and replaced several streets with cycleways, run a tertiary road along the river and across a farm track, and generally

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Shaun McDonald wrote: I see this behaviour in Safari too. Also if you just go and start working on the data, it assumes start/live mode. I think this should be made modal, so that you can't accidentally choose the live mode, when play is the one that is really wanted. It would be nice to have

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Is the fact that Potlatch does live editing a design decision, or are there technical reasons behind it (i.e. it would be much more difficult to have a Flash editor with a save button)? It's a design decision. If you do buffered editing, you have to a) do conflict management, b)

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: People use Potlatch because it is much quicker to load, learn, and use. This would not be diminished by a save button On which point we disagree, I suspect irreconcilably; and respectfully I suggest the greater cause of OSM usability would be better served by us each

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Ulf Lamping
Richard Fairhurst schrieb: Frederik Ramm wrote: Is the fact that Potlatch does live editing a design decision, or are there technical reasons behind it (i.e. it would be much more difficult to have a Flash editor with a save button)? It's a design decision. If you do buffered

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Ulf Lamping wrote: This all sounds you're trying to cure the pain of not using buffered editing with adding another concept that will add another layer of confusion ... Fine. I'm really not going to attempt and convince anyone here - one has to be a bit of a pig-headed UI fascist to develop

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Robert (Jamie) Munro
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Fairhurst wrote: | David Earl wrote: | | If nothing else, Richard, can the apparent bug with the mode | buttons be | fixed and the text make it clearer that live data is being changed | when | you press start? | | It's not a bug as such - it's

Re: [OSM-talk] Vandalism in Trumpington

2008-04-27 Thread Jo
Richard Fairhurst schreef: Ulf Lamping wrote: This all sounds you're trying to cure the pain of not using buffered editing with adding another concept that will add another layer of confusion ... Fine. I'm really not going to attempt and convince anyone here - one has to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap State Of The Map 2008 conference early-bird registration

2008-04-27 Thread SteveC
On 26 Apr 2008, at 17:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, There's just over a week to go for early bird registration for OpenStreetMap's second international conference in Limerick, Ireland on the weekend of 12-13 July 2008. It is a great opportunity to meet your fellow mappers from all over the

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: Re: Bangladesh under the water]

2008-04-27 Thread Francois De Ryckel
I found the script paul created? http://www.lenz-online.de/divers/osm/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Running_the_coastline_upload can't we just use it to re-load the missing data? Francois David Groom wrote: - Original Message - From: Jon Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [Talk-de] Update: POI Control

2008-04-27 Thread Paul Lenz
Mein Problem ist, dass ich noch nicht heraus gefunden habe, wie ich die Auswahl der POIs im Link unterbekomme? Falls das derzeit noch nicht geht, wäre ich dir sehr dankbar, wenn du dieses Feature implementieren würdest. Echt eine nette Idee, ich habe sie gerade mal umgesetzt. Hier ein

[Talk-de] JOSM - langsam bei ausgefüllten Polyg onen?

2008-04-27 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
Hallo! Ich habe mich (obwohl ich schon einige Zeit mappe) vor Kurzem erst intensiver mit ausgefüllten Polygonen beschäftigt, insbesondere um Wälder zu mappen. Die aktuelle Version von JOSM wird jedoch immer dann extrem langsam wenn eine große Fläche eines halbtransparent ausgefüllten Polygons

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM - langsam bei ausgefüllten Polyg onen?

2008-04-27 Thread Wolfgang Silbermayr
Andreas Jacob schrieb: Ist dein Ubuntu 32bit oder auch 64bit? Ist ein 32bit, scheint also nicht so als ob das der Grund wäre. Was mir auch aufgefallen ist: das Geschwindigkeitsproblem verstärkt sich proportional zur Fläche, die am Bildschirm angezeigt wird. Wenn ich eine Fläche

[Talk-de] Software um GPS-Trecks aufzuzeichnen??

2008-04-27 Thread Kai Behncke
Hallo liebe Leute, super Wetter heute und ich würde gerne meine ersten OSM-Daten erheben. Habe einen PDA (HTC P3600) mit integriertem GPS. Darauf läuft Windows Mobile 5.0. Welches Open Source Programm ist zu empfehlen, um mit diesem Gerät GPS-Tracks aufzuzeichnen? Was würdet Ihr empfehlen?

Re: [Talk-de] Software um GPS-Trecks aufzuzeichnen??

2008-04-27 Thread osm
On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:02:24 +0200 Kai Behncke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welches Open Source Programm ist zu empfehlen, um mit diesem Gerät GPS-Tracks aufzuzeichnen? Was würdet Ihr empfehlen? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Making_Tracks_with_Homebrew-ware#Windows_Mobile Scheint nur

Re: [Talk-de] Software um GPS-Trecks aufzuzeichnen??

2008-04-27 Thread Andreas Gutowski
hallo, ich bin auch relativ neu dabei :-) habe einen pda mit windows mobile 6. am anfang habe ich mit odgps [1] rumprobiert. ist zwar o.k. - hat mir aber nicht ganz so gefallen. ich habe mir dann gps-tuner [2] angeschaut. und das proggi hat mir dann doch besser gefallen. ist kein open-source -

Re: [Talk-de] Software um GPS-Trecks aufzuzeichnen??

2008-04-27 Thread Kai Behncke
Hallo Andreas, danke erstmal für den Hinweis. Ja, GPS-Tuner hab ich auch auf meinem Gerät. Muss sagen, dass ich das eigentlich auch ganz prima finde. Frag mich nur ob es auch eine Open Source Alternative gibt. Viele Grüße, Kai Original-Nachricht Datum: Sun, 27 Apr 2008

[Talk-de] Nokia N8xx/N770 Users: Welche Software?

2008-04-27 Thread osm
Mal an alle, die eines der im Betreff genannten Devices besitzt: Welche -OpenStreetMap relevante- Software benutzt ihr und wie benutzt ihr sie? Also ich benutzt Maemo Mapper um Kartenmaterial auf dem Device zu speichern und um neue Wege zu tracken...so seh ich gleich, welche Wege noch fehlen.

Re: [Talk-de] Software um GPS-Trecks aufzuzeichnen??

2008-04-27 Thread Christoph Eckert
Moin, Hättst du dir mal lieber ein N8xx Nokia Inet Table gekauft ;) Da gibts super software... was nimmst Du da so? Ich hab mit kürzlich so eine Kiste geholt und finde das Teil recht cool. Das Display ist selbst bei Sonnenschein noch ablesbar - ich war ganz baff. Der GPS-Chip scheint mir

Re: [Talk-de] yahoo problem in JOSM

2008-04-27 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Bild laden, manchmal auch öfter, aber unabhängig von der Größe des Bildes wird das Menu meist nach kurzer Zeit grau hinterlegt, so dass man keine weiteren Hintergründe laden kann und ich dann meist JOSM neu starte (was ein bisschen nervt). Gibt's da ne Lösung, oder / und ist das ein

Re: [Talk-de] yahoo problem in JOSM

2008-04-27 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
man keine weiteren Hintergründe laden kann und ich dann meist JOSM neu starte (was ein bisschen nervt). Gibt's da ne Lösung, oder / und ist das ein Bug? Hab ich neulich auch mal gehabt und noch nicht richtig rausgefunden, woran es liegt, mir scheint aber, wenn man in die

Re: [Talk-de] Update: POI Control

2008-04-27 Thread Holger Issle
Hi, Echt eine nette Idee, ich habe sie gerade mal umgesetzt. Hier ein Beispiel-Link: http://www.lenz-online.de/osm?lat=55.75lon=37.62zoom=15poi=amenity+place_of_worship,amenity+pub,tourism+hotel Ich denke, der Syntax wird klar. Cool! Kann es sein, daß das suchen (bzw Enter) nicht geht, wenn

Re: [Talk-de] Software um GPS-Trecks aufzuzeichnen??

2008-04-27 Thread Christoph Eckert
Moin, p.s. hab gerade hier in der mailingliste genau zu diesem Thema (apps unter nxxx) eine thread gestartet ;) ja zu spät gesehen :) . Cheers, ce ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-de] Oeffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-27 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Donnerstag 24 April 2008 schrieb Sven Rautenberg: Guenther Meyer schrieb: aber wirklich wichtig ist die angabe der oeffnungszeiten fuer dinge wie tankstellen, apotheken, restaurants und andere dienstleister, wo man den besuch in der regel nicht vorher plant, sondern deren dienste meist

Re: [Talk-de] Oeffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-27 Thread Michael Bergbauer
On Sun Apr 27, 2008 at 08:0355PM +0200, Guenther Meyer wrote: Am Donnerstag 24 April 2008 schrieb Sven Rautenberg: Guenther Meyer schrieb: aber wirklich wichtig ist die angabe der oeffnungszeiten fuer dinge wie tankstellen, apotheken, restaurants und andere dienstleister, wo man den

Re: [Talk-de] Oeffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-27 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Montag 28 April 2008 schrieb Michael Bergbauer: ein schema fuer oeffnungszeiten ist durchaus sinnvoll. man muesste sich nur mal zusammensetzen, und was sinnvolles ausarbeiten. Genau hier sehe ich eben die Probleme: erstens sollten die Oeffnungszeiten wenn schon denn schon

Re: [Talk-de] Oeffnungszeiten (hier: Zoo)

2008-04-27 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Montag 28 April 2008 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Und was die Computerlesbarkeit betrifft - bitte bloss nicht damit anfangen, ein allgemeines Schema zur Modellierung beliebiger Oeffnungszeitenschemata zu erfinden, dann koennt ihr euch gleich beim OGC bewerben ;-) eine einfache Textzeile reicht,

[Talk-GB] OS costs

2008-04-27 Thread SteveC
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/apr/25/charles.arthur Best Steve ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk-gb