Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Wood
2009/7/1 Christoph Boehme christ...@b3e.net: Hi! Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: FYI, I'm only adding the routes in for sections where I've already verified the NaPTAN bus stops and added the route refs displayed at the stop. I it might be helpful here that I recently updated the

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Christoph Boehme
Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/7/1 Christoph Boehme christ...@b3e.net: Hi! Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: FYI, I'm only adding the routes in for sections where I've already verified the NaPTAN bus stops and added the route refs displayed at the stop. I it might be helpful here that I

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Christoph Boehme
Andy, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Looking great. Thanks! I didn't play for more than a couple of moments so I may be missing something here, however if a stop has been merged, ie it appears to have all the right data, then there will be no wish to merge it with another stop.

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus operator references

2009-07-01 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 01 July 2009 4:18 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: osm; talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus operator references On 1 Jul 2009, at 14:43, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: I'm a bit confused by what are the

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Bus routes are appearing nicely now on: http://www.mappa-mercia.org/public-transport-map.shtml Wow! I'm jealous. I'd love to have something like this for Manchester. Here, the bus routes are so

[Talk-transit] East Coast Main Line

2009-07-01 Thread Frankie Roberto
Is it too soon to add operator=uk_government to http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4330149? :-) Frankie (P.S there doesn't seem to be a relation that covers the route yet). -- Frankie Roberto Experience Designer, Rattle 0114 2706977 http://www.rattlecentral.com

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus operator references

2009-07-01 Thread Peter J Stoner
In message !!AAAuAOKaD4mR3JBOrEpRon92nMgBANp/H2q5kHF ivkmsnziqazabxjaaabausnwhbbsxrjctfdkbi0tdaqaaa...@googlemail.com Andy Robinson \(blackadder-lists\) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@googlemail.com] wrote: Sent: 01 July 2009

Re: [Talk-transit] East Coast Main Line

2009-07-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
It's not until later this year until the route will come under the government arm. What about the trains on the East Coast Route that go to Glasgow (via Motherwell), Aberdeen, and Inverness (i.e. North/West of Edinburgh). Should those tails be added to the route too, or a separate

Re: [Talk-transit] East Coast Main Line

2009-07-01 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:40 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote: It's not until later this year until the route will come under the government arm. Yeah, I was joking. It's a little premature. Still, I wonder what the operator name should be? uk_government? Or

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Melchior Moos
Hi, Bus routes are appearing nicely now on: http://www.mappa-mercia.org/public-transport-map.shtml Wow! I'm jealous. I'd love to have something like this for Manchester. Here, the bus routes are so maddeningly confusing (multiple operators with different fare structures, and routes that

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Frankie Roberto
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Melchior Moos melchiorm...@gmail.comwrote: I would encourage you to map these routes. Someone needs to do the first step and I think there will be someone who continues your work if he sees the results or the objects in the database. The map available for the

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-01 Thread Christoph Böhme
Melchior Moos melchiorm...@gmail.com schrieb: Hi, Bus routes are appearing nicely now on: http://www.mappa-mercia.org/public-transport-map.shtml Wow! I'm jealous. I'd love to have something like this for Manchester. Here, the bus routes are so maddeningly confusing (multiple

Re: [talk-ph] RFC: additional tags for amenity=banks

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
I think that sounds excellent. The tagging scheme is applicable globally and to not just banks but any retail activity. Mike At 03:37 AM 29/06/2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I would like to propose the following additional tags for bank POIs: amenity=bank name=Bank of the Philippines

Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ nationalparksboundaries

2009-07-01 Thread Marloue Pidor
Thanks, I have to remove my old Mt. Apo National Park data. murlwe -Original Message- From: maning sambale [emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com] Sent: 7/2/2009 9:23:29 AM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ nationalparksboundaries It's done!

[OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2009-07-01 Thread Ed Avis
In Britain, the postal service has supplied a text file listing all post boxes. Each box has a 'ref' looking like 'W1 106', and of course it has a location in the real world. The text file doesn't give lat/long or grid references, just the name of the street or intersection. Sometimes the

[OSM-legal-talk] ODbL 1.0 Final Released

2009-07-01 Thread Grant Slater
Legal-talk, Not yet announced here... ODbL 1.0 was officially released on Monday by Open Data Commons... http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/ Our potential implementation plan: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan#Current Regards Grant

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Adding UK post box information

2009-07-01 Thread Gervase Markham
On 01/07/09 11:18, Ed Avis wrote: Can the manually located postboxes, based on OSM data and a list of postbox street locations from the Royal Mail, be added to OSM? Yes. But have you checked with Matthew Somerville, the author of that tool? AIUI it's already integrated with OSM. I did the

Re: [OSM-talk] Is OpenAerialMap service dead?

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Robin Paulson wrote: 2009/6/13 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de: Also - Is OpenStreetPhoto going to be usable for storage of ground level photos of junctions, bridges etc which can be useful for photo route planning or not. The name you have

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus routes questions

2009-07-01 Thread Jochen Topf
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:50:30PM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: i think it's time to cleanup bus routes concept http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Public_Transportation * forward/backward_stop can't work if you map bus_stop as standalone waypoint * stop_number is useless because

[OSM-talk] Error in wiki tag {{Language-Mapper}} for Spanish

2009-07-01 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi, I've just realized that the list of languages displayed in the wiki of openstreetmap.org shows 'Espanol' instead of 'Español' (correct), can you guys fix this? Thks a lot. Ivan Garcia. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Error in wiki tag {{Language-Mapper}} for Spanish

2009-07-01 Thread Maarten Deen
Ivan Garcia wrote: Hi, I've just realized that the list of languages displayed in the wiki of openstreetmap.org shows 'Espanol' instead of 'Español' (correct), can you guys fix this? Fixed. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list

[OSM-talk] [Announcement] accessibility mailing list

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
Following the success of similar German-language mailing lists, there is now an accessibility mailing list for topics on all kinds of disabilities and things like navigation on mobile devices and tactile maps. For details on how to subscribe to this and other country, language, and

Re: [OSM-talk] Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) - Openstreetmap import first pass

2009-07-01 Thread Joe Richards
there are some obvious omissions and variations as you mentioned one that stands out to me is the omission of the Rakaia River which is more than a small creek! I'm not entirely sure why these are not showing up. It's not a case of the tags being missing, they are lacking in the original

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Land Information New Zealand (LINZ) - Openstreetmap import first pass

2009-07-01 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/6/30 Joe Richards joefis...@yahoo.com: I've been working on the LINZ data import, on attribution/legal as well as the actual import.  The LINZ data I have is actually via the NZ Open GPS project Would it make sense to get access to the original dataset from which the NZOGPS dataset is

[OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread SteveC
I've been thinking a bit about how bugs work in OSM. I really like the way OSB works http://openstreetbugs.appspot.com/ But it's closed source afaik and doesn't have an API. It uses human input. new OSB is cool and tries to fix some of this

Re: [OSM-talk] Error in wiki tag {{Language-Mapper}} for Spanish

2009-07-01 Thread Ivan Garcia
Thanks a lot Maarten, good to see that fast answer. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Ivan Garcia wrote: Hi, I've just realized that the list of languages displayed in the wiki of openstreetmap.org shows 'Espanol' instead of 'Español' (correct), can you

[OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Hello, sorry the theme is for the most of the people off topic. They use the application osm via internet. But the fundament of the internet (its protocol) is changing. Therefore my appeal: Ask your next admin/provider for ipv6 , make a plan and make the network working, add the to dns

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Renaud Martinet
I think there was some talk about that last year (march or june) when OSB appeared. If I remember, people liked the interface because it's rather nice and it lowers the entry level. So more people submit bugs and eventually also fix them, we get a better map and all is well. But it has also been

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Sander Hoentjen
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 16:43 +0200, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Hello, sorry the theme is for the most of the people off topic. They use the application osm via internet. But the fundament of the internet (its protocol) is changing. Therefore my appeal: Ask your next admin/provider for ipv6

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Thomas Schäfer wrote: Therefore my appeal: Ask your next admin/provider for ipv6 , make a plan and make the network working, add the to dns an be happy. Solve the little problems . Asked and answered. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-October/018603.html -- Jonathan

[OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread maning sambale
Hi, I get this error using bulk_upload.py: $ python bulk_upload.py --input=pas_osm.osm --user= --password= --comment=* bulk_upload.py:42: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated import sets Uploading change set:1701375 Error uploading changeset:404 Any advice? --

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, maning sambale escribió: I get this error using bulk_upload.py: [...] Any advice? Try the PHP bulk uploader :-D -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es Lo he comprobado con mucho cuidado y ésa es exactamente la

Re: [OSM-talk] Bus routes questions

2009-07-01 Thread simon
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 08:50:30PM +0200, Ondrej Novy wrote: There is a proposal on the table that solves all these things and much more: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Oxomoa/Public_transport_schema I like this proposal, it seems to cover most things that I can think off. I've

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Jonathan Bennett schrieb am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009: Asked and answered. No, the answer was not satisfying. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2007-October/018603.html Now we have 2009! Regards, Thomas Schäfer ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread Alice Kaerast
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 17:49:48 +0200 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es wrote: El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, maning sambale escribió: I get this error using bulk_upload.py: [...] Any advice? Try the PHP bulk uploader :-D The PHP bulk uploader does indeed fine if all you want

[OSM-talk] Education talk at SOTM

2009-07-01 Thread Sarah Manley
Hello All, I am working on a talk about OSM + Education for SOTM. If you have any projects / curriculum / initiatives that you would like included or to share with me, please contact me. Thanks! Sarah Sarah Manley Community Ambassdor sa...@cloudmade.com Cell: 415-254-3050 Skype:

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Thomas Schäfer wrote: No, the answer was not satisfying. What part of it's not under our control didn't you understand? -- Jonathan (Jonobennett) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk wrote: What part of it's not under our control didn't you understand? Have you asked your provider lately about IPv6 address space? Most providers seem to be setting up IPv6 silently and/or more proactive lately when it comes

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Jonathan Bennett wrote: Thomas Schäfer wrote: No, the answer was not satisfying. What part of it's not under our control didn't you understand? Set up a SixXS tunnel and have fun :) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread Steve Singer
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, I get this error using bulk_upload.py: $ python bulk_upload.py --input=pas_osm.osm --user= --password= --comment=* bulk_upload.py:42: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated import sets Uploading change set:1701375

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Ondrej Novy
hi, On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 04:20:55PM +, John Smith wrote: Have you asked your provider lately about IPv6 address space? Most providers seem to be setting up IPv6 silently and/or more proactive lately when it comes to IPv6. this is true, completly silent most of them :).

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/7/1 maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com: Hi, I get this error using bulk_upload.py: $ python bulk_upload.py --input=pas_osm.osm --user= --password= --comment=* bulk_upload.py:42: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated  import sets Uploading change

[OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-01 Thread Mike Collinson
A really important poetry event that I almost forgot about. SOTM 2009 is almost with us and over 200 people coming. 201 if you have forgotten to register. Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of the Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku.

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread maning sambale
Hi, These are all new nodes and ways (protected area boundaries) converted from a shapefile using polyshp2osm.py. I did manual modifications using josm but since josm has limits for each changeset, I tried th bulk_upload script. Another weird thing is: ?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'? osm

Re: [OSM-talk] Second Grand State Of the Map Poetry Competition!!

2009-07-01 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 1 de Julio de 2009, Mike Collinson escribió: Last year we had some great Limerick poems for the Limerick State Of the Map Conference. This year, the format is the Haiku. Maps maps maps maps maps maps maps! -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009 schrieb OJ W: Improving the net in other directions, can the OSM servers be made contactable via the I2P network? This is a totaly different problem. Regards, Thomas ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] How to merge relations ?

2009-07-01 Thread Carsten Nielsen
It seems that the Danish National Cycle Network 8 has been put in two seperate relations (208282 and 131762). What is the easiest way to merge those two relations ? They only have 129 and 180 members so it would be possible to merge them manually, but I expect this is a more generic problem so

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Jonathan Bennett schrieb am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009: Thomas Schäfer wrote: No, the answer was not satisfying. What part of it's not under our control didn't you understand? Do you mean this part of the answer from 2007: Well we're largely dependent on UCL (and Bytemark to a lesser extent)

Re: [OSM-talk] How to merge relations ?

2009-07-01 Thread Tyler
You could select the smaller relation in JOSM go the the relation viewer, select all of the members of the relation. Go to the larger relation and do add selected members. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Carsten Nielsen list_re...@toensberg.dkwrote: It seems that the Danish National Cycle

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Tom Chance
Steve, All good ideas, as data becomes ever more densely and confusingly packed (just open Potlach in a completed Germany city!) the OSB site offers a nice way for Human Beings to get involved. Three thoughts: 1 - Being able to show which logged-in users submitted bugs would be a great help

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Stefan de Konink schrieb am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009: - gpg control packet Jonathan Bennett wrote: Thomas Schäfer wrote: No, the answer was not satisfying. What part of it's not under our control didn't you understand? Set up a SixXS tunnel and have fun :) I have fun. I use tunnels

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009 schrieb Sander Hoentjen: Heh well if you insist on viewing osm over ipv6 you can always visit the netherlands: tile.openstreetmap.nl is an alias for productie.openstreetmap.nl. productie.openstreetmap.nl has address 93.186.179.161 productie.openstreetmap.nl has IPv6

[OSM-talk] passive user inputs

2009-07-01 Thread Russ Nelson
Apparently Teleatlas has been using passive user inputs. Also, the mp3Car folks already have GPS units in their cars that can do logging, and are connected to the Internet if only at home via wifi. How can we use massive amounts of car tracks?

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading of bugs. We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose more of the bugs. I believe that the types of bugs one can look for are quite different. You'd have to build a very good

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Maybe we should move the OSM-servers to the netherlands, because the UK is not able to serve the world. I appreciate your enthusiasm for IPv6, Thomas, but this topic is essentially completely unrelated to OpenStreetMap. When the time

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009 schrieb Russ Nelson: On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Maybe we should move the OSM-servers to the netherlands, because the UK is not able to serve the world. I appreciate your enthusiasm for IPv6, Thomas, but this topic is essentially completely

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Nic Roets
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: You go to http://bugs.openstreetmap.org/ There's a big map of bugs which looks similar to OSB. It doesn't know who you are and drops you in to beginner mode which shows bugs that I like this. If it's idiot proof and it does

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Stefan de Konink wrote: Set up a SixXS tunnel and have fun :) Great idea! How long do you think it will take you? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Jonathan Bennett
Thomas Schäfer wrote: Lets solving the Chicken-and-egg problem in ipv6 by simply doing it. OK -- when are you available to set it up? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Discussions about Ipv6 is not wasted hot air. It is related to osm, because osm should be based on it, but isn't. It shoud simply be done, then is no further discussion about it. Let's be pragmatic here like we usually are. If we were to switch to IPv6 today

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Adam Schreiber
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 3:59 PM, Nic Roetsnro...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: You go to http://bugs.openstreetmap.org/ There's a big map of bugs which looks similar to OSB. It doesn't know who you are and drops you in to beginner mode which

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Jonathan Bennett wrote: Stefan de Konink wrote: Set up a SixXS tunnel and have fun :) Great idea! How long do you think it will take you? For me probably about an hour if Jeroen is online ;) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version:

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Frederik Ramm wrote: Thomas Schäfer wrote: Discussions about Ipv6 is not wasted hot air. It is related to osm, because osm should be based on it, but isn't. It shoud simply be done, then is no further discussion about it. Let's be pragmatic

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you

Re: [OSM-talk] How to merge relations ?

2009-07-01 Thread Carsten Nielsen
Thank you, it worked. Tyler skrev: You could select the smaller relation in JOSM go the the relation viewer, select all of the members of the relation. Go to the larger relation and do add selected members. On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Carsten Nielsen list_re...@toensberg.dk

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Discussions about Ipv6 is not wasted hot air. It is related to osm, because osm should be based on it, but isn't. It shoud simply be done, then is no further discussion about it. Let's be pragmatic here like we

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Mittwoch 01 Juli 2009 schrieb Jonathan Bennett: Thomas Schäfer wrote: Lets solving the Chicken-and-egg problem in ipv6 by simply doing it. OK -- when are you available to set it up? To enable radvd at the router? To add some /PTR-Records at the DNS? To check the firewall and to

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Claudius
Am 01.07.2009 22:12, Frederik Ramm: Hi, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Discussions about Ipv6 is not wasted hot air. It is related to osm, because osm should be based on it, but isn't. It shoud simply be done, then is no further discussion about it. Let's be pragmatic here like we usually are. If

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:01 PM, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2009, at 2:47 PM, Thomas Schäfer wrote: Maybe we should move the OSM-servers to the netherlands, because the UK is not able to serve the world. I appreciate your enthusiasm for IPv6, Thomas, but this topic

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert changeset (was Fixing duplicate nodes/ways)

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Naylor
On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 14:16 +0100, an Alice Kaerast wrote: Is there any way that changesets #1420511 and #1420511 can be reverted? I would imagine not given that work has continued since then. Alternatively, how can we remove all the duplicate nodes and ways over this large area? I

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing duplicate nodes/ways

2009-07-01 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Alice Kaerast wrote: Is there any way that changesets #1420511 and #1420511 can be reverted? I'm trying my hand at it now. Both numbers given above are the same, did you mean another changeset besides 1420511? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ##

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/07/09 16:58, Alice Kaerast wrote: The PHP bulk uploader does indeed fine if all you want to do is upload *new* nodes. It causes duplicates if you try uploading existing data. The PHP uploader may need modifying slightly to handle curl not liking the OSM API, ie. curl_setopt($ch,

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing duplicate nodes/ways

2009-07-01 Thread Robert Naylor
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 00:12:06 +0100, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, Alice Kaerast wrote: Is there any way that changesets #1420511 and #1420511 can be reverted? I'm trying my hand at it now. Both numbers given above are the same, did you mean another changeset besides

[OSM-talk] Ensuring Cyclewyays/Footways are routable?

2009-07-01 Thread simon
I had a little play with Cloudmade's routing stuff and it wasn't quite working for me. http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=51.103306lng=-114.079413zoom=15directions=51.10050375773113,-114.0750789642334,51.10594712658125,-114.08280372619629travel=footstyleId=3697 Both foot and cycle routes take a

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread maning sambale
After a bit of sleep, I was able to do it with the http://www.openstreetmap.pl/balrog/bulkupload/ utilities. The data was not uploaded because it has a way with 4000 ++ nodes. The upload.py reported this error so I was able to edit the data in JOSM. Personally, I prefer to upload everything via

Re: [OSM-talk] upload error using bulk_upload.py

2009-07-01 Thread Steve Singer
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, maning sambale wrote: Hi, These are all new nodes and ways (protected area boundaries) converted from a shapefile using polyshp2osm.py. I did manual modifications using josm but since josm has limits for each changeset, I tried th bulk_upload script. Another weird

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-01 Thread Marcus Wolschon
Guys... what could it hurt to set up an ipv6.openstreetmap.org with only an -record or with and A -records pointing at the 6to4 -address associated with the current IPv4-addresse(s) to let users and admins experiment without causing any issues with the openstreetmap.org -name? It is

Re: [OSM-talk] passive user inputs

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com wrote: wifi.  How can  we use massive amounts of car tracks? How do you want to use them? Actually this topic sort of come up recently on talk-au, firstly you can take all the data, remove spurious track information and average the

[OSM-talk] Communications tower/transponders

2009-07-01 Thread Simon Wood
I have had a go at tidying the proposed tags for communication towers and would welcome any comments. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Communications_tower http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Communications_Transponder Cheers, Simon.

[OSM-talk-nl] mensen kunnen echolocatie aanleren

2009-07-01 Thread Bas
Beste Talk'ers, http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2033184/mensen-kunnen-echolocatie-aanleren-.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobuBc2GO0o -- Met vriendelijke groet, Bas de Lange 06 166 26 950 Hoofdorganisator Software Freedom Day Nederland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0_KiVdIOtc

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mensen kunnen echolocatie aanleren

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Bas wrote: http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2033184/mensen-kunnen-echolocatie-aanleren-.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobuBc2GO0o Jaren geleden bij Oprah wel eens gezien :) Blinde knaap die kon horen wat er voor hem was. Stefan

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mensen kunnen echolocatie aanleren

2009-07-01 Thread Roeland Douma
On Wednesday 01 July 2009 10:53:38 Stefan de Konink wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Bas wrote: http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2033184/mensen-kunnen-echolocatie-aanleren-.h tml http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobuBc2GO0o Jaren geleden bij Oprah wel eens gezien :) Blinde knaap die kon horen wat er

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mensen kunnen echolocatie aanleren

2009-07-01 Thread Stefan de Konink
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Roeland Douma wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2009 10:53:38 Stefan de Konink wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Bas wrote: http://www.nu.nl/wetenschap/2033184/mensen-kunnen-echolocatie-aanleren-.h tml http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobuBc2GO0o Jaren geleden bij Oprah wel eens

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] mensen kunnen echolocatie aanleren

2009-07-01 Thread Rob
omg, dan kijk je ook vast naar tel sell ;) Op 1 juli 2009 11:09 schreef Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de het volgende: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Roeland Douma wrote: On Wednesday 01 July 2009 10:53:38 Stefan de Konink wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Bas wrote:

Re: [talk-au] Mini-roundabout archive

2009-07-01 Thread Ross Scanlon
On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:21:39 +1000 Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote: Can someone please direct me to the talk-au archive post where the discussion commenced on the topic of mini-roundabouts ? Thanks Rick ___ Talk-au mailing list

[talk-au] JOSM upload woes: placeholder ids must be unique for created elements

2009-07-01 Thread b . schulz . 10
I'm getting the above error message (code 400) when trying to upload my latest set of edits. Any ideas how to get around it or fix it? JOSM doesn't give any feedback as to which placeholder ID is causing the error etc. Googling the error message just gives a page with source code which handles

[talk-au] FIXED: Re: JOSM upload woes: placeholder ids must be unique for created elements

2009-07-01 Thread b . schulz . 10
Ok, was a bit hasty there. Turns out I had a no-right-turn relation with 6 members because each member was added twice. Fixing that (ie, deleting the repeated members) fixed the problem and the chanset closed :). - Original Message - From: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au Date: Wednesday, July 1,

Re: [talk-au] bus routes

2009-07-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, John Smith wrote: There was a posting on the main talk list today about bus routes... http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038119.html thanks luckily or not, we don't have nay bus pass our place, but apparently there is a bus service in town. it looked

Re: [talk-au] Mini-roundabout archive

2009-07-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: Not sure on the exact date but about October November 2008. probably late November - it started after that visit i made to adelaide and upset a local ;-) ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Mini-roundabout archive

2009-07-01 Thread Liz
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Ross Scanlon wrote: On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 13:21:39 +1000 Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote: Can someone please direct me to the talk-au archive post where the discussion commenced on the topic of mini-roundabouts ? Thanks Rick

Re: [talk-au] bus routes

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: thanks luckily or not, we don't have nay bus pass our place, but apparently there is a bus service in town. it looked like a brain stretching exercise to me I guess that's why they're testing it, for usability as much as a method/means of

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson
John Smith wrote: .using the validator plugin Hi John, I originally loaded the Validator plugin using the JOSM interface and then I enabled it in the plugins menu. I use it to check all of the data I download, usually before I start editing and then again before I upload my work.

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson
opps, forgot to attach image links: 1. http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action=""> 2. http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action=""> 3. http://s756.photobucket.com/albums/xx204/AusRick/?action=""> Rick Peterson wrote: John Smith wrote: .using

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson
John Smith wrote: Gympie has lots of unnamed ways, a number added by me and I'm just trying to easily locate and name them. Indeed I get 288 unnamed way errors when I do a generous area download around Gympie QLD. (Including unnamed roundabouts which I've written about before as a

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: There is an ignore file for the validator - you can tell it to ignore certain types of errors.  It's a text file in the plugin area, I think.  You may have accidentally added streets to that, it easy to do.  There may be a setting

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: That was it, I don't even remember ignoring it but yea, deleted the ignore file and they all show up now. Now all I need to figure out is how to ignore all unnamed ways where junction=roundabout :)

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread Rick Peterson
John Smith wrote: all I need to figure out is how to ignore all unnamed ways where junction=roundabout :) I hope you will share such valuable information should you happen upon a method! .. those roundabout false-positives drive me nuts !! That aside, I find the JOSM Validator

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-01 Thread John Smith
--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Rick Peterson ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote: I hope you will share such valuable information should you happen upon a method! .. those roundabout false-positives drive me nuts !! I downloaded the plugin code, kind of figured out where to stick some code to do it, but then

Re: [talk-au] Tagwatch

2009-07-01 Thread Rick
Rick Peterson wrote: Does anyone know if someone provides a Tagwatch excerpt for just Australia? I'm guessing not ! My thoughts are that actual tag use and combination statistics are as valuable (or more valuable) than theoretical tag suggestions. At the very least, discussions on tags used

Re: [talk-au] Tagwatch

2009-07-01 Thread Ross Scanlon
If you attempt to download it other than clicking on the button you do not get the file. Found that out before. Just downloaded it and its 102mb. Cheers Ross --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Rick ausr...@iinet.net.au wrote: Is anyone interested in looking at configuring the script to work with an

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