[Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-02 Thread Brian Prangle
Have a go at mapping one bus route to start with - it's great fun! We were helped enormously by having the trial NaPTAN import so we got a good grid of bus stops mapped where we agreed as a local group to make sure all the route nos where displayed on bus stops were tagged. It's a good idea to

Re: [Talk-transit] West Mids Bus Routes

2009-07-02 Thread Peter J Stoner
In message ab4a6cf40907020539v71072fb3uedec10d922b0b...@mail.gmail.co m Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote: Have a go at mapping one bus route to start with - it's great fun! We were helped enormously by having the trial NaPTAN import so we got a good grid of bus stops

Re: [talk-ph] RFC: importing protected areas/ nationalparksboundaries

2009-07-02 Thread maning sambale
murlwe, I just saw the render of boundary=national_park. There seems to be a previous boundary of Mt. Apo. I'm sorry for the duplicate, should I remove my import? I'm not sure which data is a better. On 7/2/09, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Thanks, I have to remove my old Mt.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
I think if your planned licence change requires people to agree to these very lengthy and legalistic 'terms and conditions' then it's an indication that you are doing something wrong. As far as I can tell Wikipedia doesn't have 'terms and conditions' on the website, despite being equally

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: As far as I can tell Wikipedia doesn't have 'terms and conditions' on the website, despite being equally dependent on user contributions and with more scope for legal risk from libel, offensive content and so on.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Ed Avis
Russ Nelson r...@... writes: Some of the stuff is there to help enforce the database license. If we had a license that didn't give us the occasion to sue anybody, we wouldn't need terms like that, but in fact we DO plan to sue SOMEBODY, sooner or later. And it's only reasonable to then be

[OSM-legal-talk] copyright for IGN maps from morocco

2009-07-02 Thread Martin
Hi I would like to know if it is allowed to trace over the maps from: http://www.ml-datos.com/4/ficheros/mapas/marruecos/IGN%201-250.000/ I already know that it is allowed for: http://www.madmappers.com/mapset.php?MS=182 http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/ams/north_africa/ since they are listed

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy see also the terms at the bottom of every edit box. These terms and conditions don't try to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Matt Amos
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:20 AM, Matt Amoszerebub...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Ed Avise...@waniasset.com wrote: Matt Amos zerebub...@... writes: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Terms_of_Use http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Privacy_policy see also the terms at the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Privacy and Terms

2009-07-02 Thread Russ Nelson
On Jul 2, 2009, at 6:58 PM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Nonetheless if the OSM community wants a share-alike license, it has to use this sort of language. Indeed. Consider what you would say if a lawyer looked at a program and said Why do we need all this codese? -- Russ Nelson -

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Marcus Wolschon: Guys... what could it hurt to set up an ipv6.openstreetmap.org with only an -record or with and A -records pointing at the 6to4 -address associated with the current IPv4-addresse(s) to let users and admins experiment without causing

Re: [OSM-talk] passive user inputs

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Peter Dörrie peter.doer...@googlemail.com wrote: Well they could also used against OSM. If people start using theirs car-gps output for this and don't bother to switch of the snap-to-road feature (and many won't), we are in trouble. Yes, but the context here is home brew

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Thomas Schäfer wrote: This is a bad idea. Do it right or do it not. ... has never been OSM's attitude so far, so why change now. Honestly, I get the feeling you're on a personal crusade here for doing things right which is of no relevance to most of us. You might as well tell us that we

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Frederik Ramm: Hi, Claudius wrote: There are not enough IPv4 adresses for Africa and Latin America already which is why they are assigning IPv6 only already. Now with the new east african internet cable this might lead to even more IPv6 users in

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: This is a bad idea. Do it right or do it not. ... has never been OSM's attitude so far, so why change now. Honestly, I Judging by my experience, there will be most likely be between 0.01% and 1% IPv6 traffic v IPv4 traffic,

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Frederik Ramm schrieb am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009: Hi, Thomas Schäfer wrote: This is a bad idea. Do it right or do it not. ... has never been OSM's attitude so far, so why change now. Honestly, I get the feeling you're on a personal crusade here for doing things right which is of no

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb John Smith: get the feeling you're on a personal crusade here for It sucks when people turn things into a religious issue and go off on their high horses how everything should be done perfectly. Your horse isn't high? Thomas

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Thomas Schäfer tschae...@t-online.de wrote: Your horse isn't high? I prefer soap boxes personally, they don't tend to shy ;) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Ken Guest
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:17 AM, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Thomas Schäfer tschae...@t-online.de wrote: Your horse isn't high? I prefer soap boxes personally, they don't tend to shy ;) or kick... :( k. -- http://short.ie/osminguardian

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Thomas Schäfer
Am Donnerstag 02 Juli 2009 schrieb Tom Hughes: We (the admins) are all well aware of this. I personally have had IPv6 on my home network for some years now. That is nice. There are reasons why this is not as simple as it sounds. I know that sounds a bit cryptic but please believe me when I

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the user interface to offer functionality. I'd kind of taken that as read

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Dair Grant
Frederik Ramm wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into the user interface to offer functionality.

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Dair Grant wrote: Is the bugs database really so different in character to the map database though? Provided there was a planet-style dump of the bug database, anyone wishing to build an external system could easily do so. As I tried to point out in my other message, if there is to be a

Re: [OSM-talk] Ensuring Cyclewyays/Footways are routable?

2009-07-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
Both foot and cycle routes take a long way around (car goes even further thought an 'access=bus' section). access=bus? That tag doesn't match the usual vehicletype=usageright structure, so why would you expect it to be recognized? Tobias Knerr ___

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Hughes
Frederik Ramm wrote: This is something that must not be lost. Yes, any application can upload their bug via the REST interface, but they can hardly upload an algorithm on how to deal with the bug. So in order not to lose the flexibility of the ecosystem we currently have, we should make an

[OSM-talk] Accessibility

2009-07-02 Thread Lulu-Ann
Hello list, there is a new mailing list available for OSM. The topic is accessibility. It will be discussed... * How to create non visual maps for the blind and visual impaired * New tags that allow to map objects of special interest for disabled persons * New maps that contain information

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Dirk-Lüder Kreie
Thomas Schäfer schrieb: It is probably a moot point anyway because, as someone else pointed out, either UCL does it or they don't and we would be the last ones to raise a fuss with them over anything. You don't want realize. I have to accept that. Sorry. OSM is largely a meritocracy

Re: [OSM-talk] Ensuring Cyclewyays/Footways are routable?

2009-07-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Jul 2009, at 00:54, si...@mungewell.org wrote: I had a little play with Cloudmade's routing stuff and it wasn't quite working for me.

Re: [OSM-talk] Ensuring Cyclewyays/Footways are routable?

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/7/2 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Both foot and cycle routes take a long way around (car goes even further thought an 'access=bus' section). access=bus? That tag doesn't match the usual vehicletype=usageright structure, so why would you expect it to be recognized? you could take

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading of bugs. We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose more of the bugs. I believe that the types of bugs one can look for are

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 1 Jul 2009, at 21:15, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread SteveC
On 2 Jul 2009, at 11:19, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow users to do only what you have coded; instead open this up so that anybody can hook their app into

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Boehme
Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all the bugs in one central place and allow

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Böhme
SteveC wrote: On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:58, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, SteveC wrote: But, and this is key, it also has a RESTful API for mass uploading of bugs. We need to do two things - unify the various bug systems and expose more of the bugs. I believe that the types of bugs one can look

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-02 Thread Jonas Krückel
Christoph Boehme schrieb: Hi, Frederik Ramm wrote: Nic Roets wrote: And if the user indicates that he just wants to add a PoI, redirect him to http://ae.osmsurround.org/ so that he can add it directly to the database. That's the point I was trying to make - do not hog all

[OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Rory McCann
Hi all, A team has formed amoung the Ubuntu community to help make Ubuntu work well for NGOs (Non-Govermental Organisations, aka charities) [1] [2]. I myself have done some volunteer work sending ubuntu computers to Africa with Camara [3]. One problem with many places in the developing world is

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread simon
Hi all, A team has formed amoung the Ubuntu community to help make Ubuntu work well for NGOs (Non-Govermental Organisations, aka charities) [1] [2]. I myself have done some volunteer work sending ubuntu computers to Africa with Camara [3]. One problem with many places in the developing world

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Joseph Reeves
I wonder if Portable GIS would help? http://www.archaeogeek.com/blog/portable-gis/ Cheers, Joseph 2009/7/2 si...@mungewell.org: Hi all, A team has formed amoung the Ubuntu community to help make Ubuntu work well for NGOs (Non-Govermental Organisations, aka charities) [1] [2]. I myself

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Rory McCann
On 02/07/09 16:39, si...@mungewell.org wrote: If you want a 'slippy map' displayed in a local webbrowser this can also be achieved by having a local webserver or tile cache on the same machine that the web browser is on. Yeah that's pretty much what I want to. I'm curious if it'd be better to

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap Down?

2009-07-02 Thread Lars Ahlzen
Hurricane McEwen wrote: Hey, I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to the same issue? Yes. And they are probably having the same problem as I had recently with toposm.com. It appears that the OpenLayers.Layer.OSM class now expects a full URL template

[OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap Down?

2009-07-02 Thread Hurricane McEwen
Hey, I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to the same issue? -- Hurricane McEwen Community Ambassador skype: hurricanecloudmade twitter: hurricanemcewen ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-02 Thread Bernhard zwischenbrugger
Hi all I tried to find the users position. First I read the location from http://api.hostip.info. Then, if the user has a browser with geolocation (wifi based position finder) the user will be asked if he wants to give his Firefox 3.5 geolocation to the browser. The map: http://www.khtml.org

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap Down?

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote: I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to the same issue? Errm.. yes, damn. :( I am using the OpenLayers code hosted on the OSM servers - looks like this has changed and it is now breaking. I'll try and have a

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap Down?

2009-07-02 Thread Steve Hill
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Lars Ahlzen wrote: It appears that the OpenLayers.Layer.OSM class now expects a full URL template for the tiles, rather than just the directory... i.e. something like: Nope, that didn't fix it. :( Looks like I'll need to do a bit more debugging. - Steve

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Mikel Maron
Offline can mean a number of things - Offline accessible maps. The tiles are created and stored on the local computer or network. A laptop can be configured with the OSM stack (mod_tile+mapnik), or any number of other stacks that work with OSM data files (OpenGeo, Sahana). Or the software

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread MP
I'm curious if it'd be better to pre-generate all the images before, and then you're just serving static files, or if it'd be better to have some sort of web server / database / the whole tile rendering shebang on there. Pre-generating probably won't be the good way to go, I saw some

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: First I read the location from http://api.hostip.info. Then, if the user has a browser with geolocation (wifi based position finder) the user will be asked if he wants to give his Firefox 3.5 geolocation to the

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: - Devices. iPhone has an offline maps app. It's easy to make maps for Garmin devices. AndNav2 (Android) has an inbuilt pre-caching option, this can be slow, the alternative is some apps that precache maps for trekbuddy (J2ME) also

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: The data is the other point. Planet is currently around 6.2 GB, compressed. That could fit on two DVDs. Probably better That's assuming you leave it in OSM format, you can probably reduce this size if you switch it to some other

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenPisteMap Down?

2009-07-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/07/09 17:32, Steve Hill wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote: I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to the same issue? Errm.. yes, damn. :( I am using the OpenLayers code hosted on the OSM servers - looks like this has changed and

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Rory McCannr...@technomancy.org wrote: I'm curious if it'd be better to pre-generate all the images before, and then you're just serving static files, or if it'd be better to have some sort of web server / database / the whole tile rendering shebang on there.

[OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Jul 2009, at 17:32, Steve Hill wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote: I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to the same issue? Errm.. yes, damn. :( Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Jueves, 2 de Julio de 2009, Rory McCann escribió: [...] I'm curious if it'd be better to pre-generate all the images before, and then you're just serving static files, or if it'd be better to have some sort of web server / database / the whole tile rendering shebang on there. IMHO, it'd be

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
By the way: you should get in touch with Engineers Without Borders[1] and similar NGOs. They sure have some experience deploying GIS in the developing world. [1] http://www.ewb-international.org/ Cheers, -- -- Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es If you

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:46 PM, John Smithdelta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Bernhard zwischenbrugger b...@datenkueche.com wrote: First I read the location from http://api.hostip.info. Then, if the user has a browser with geolocation (wifi based position finder) the user will

Re: [OSM-talk] AAAA openstreetmap still doesn't use ipv6

2009-07-02 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: Thomas Schäfer schrieb: It is probably a moot point anyway because, as someone else pointed out, either UCL does it or they don't and we would be the last ones to raise a fuss with them over anything. You don't want

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread simon
Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render it. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Golf_course You can use

[OSM-talk] Explaining to NASA why the ASTER data should be freely licensed

2009-07-02 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I contacted people at NASA asking whether they were planning on releasing their ASTER data under a license that would be suitable for projects like OSM. I quoted them the terms they present upon download which would be problematic: # I agree to redistribute the ASTER GDEM only to individuals

Re: [OSM-talk] Explaining to NASA why the ASTER data should be freely licensed

2009-07-02 Thread MP
As it turns out the first clause is (apparently) to facilitate tracking of how the data is used and so that they can announce updates, and the second is to ensure proper attribution. I've asked them permission to quote their complete reply but that's basically it. What about derived data?

Re: [OSM-talk] Explaining to NASA why the ASTER data should be freely licensed

2009-07-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 4:15 PM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmasonava...@gmail.com wrote: # When presenting or publishing ASTER GDEM data, I agree to include ASTER GDEM is a product of METI and NASA. That clause seems very similar to the BSD advertising clause (and is problematic for the same reasons):

Re: [OSM-talk] Explaining to NASA why the ASTER data should be freely licensed

2009-07-02 Thread Tyler
Ævar, Thanks for trying to get clarification. Despite my disagreeing that there is any real restriction on the data that affects its use in OSM, clarification and explicit permission is always a good thing. This should have been cross-posted to legal, probably. And let me preface it all with

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Jul 2009, at 21:19, si...@mungewell.org wrote: Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render it.

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread simon
Also, I don't think it is fair to call it 'polluting the map' to add current details just because there is no rendering . The 'polluting' comment was aimed at the _proposed_ cycle path, not the golf course details. Out of interest, is there a way of overlaying KML on OSM tiles using OL as

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread simon
Whole world dump (bzip2 compressed) is 6.2 GB It would be possible to filter this to produce a smaller (but less precise) version, which might be ample for your requirements. For example a sweeping curve may be drawn in OSM with a node every meter, taking 100 nodes. When in reality it is

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread Richard Weait
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 19:02 +0100, Peter Miller wrote: Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render it.

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread MP
You can also strip out all of the data/tags which you are not interested in rendering. Obviously you would not want to upload any of this 'tainted' data back into the OSM database. If you do now want to edit, just use the data to display a map (and perhaps do some routing, etc , you

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: People care because it has been standardized and is being implemented by major players: http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html Dunno about you, but 50,000,000 blackberry users can't be too wrong...

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, si...@mungewell.org si...@mungewell.org wrote: Distilling this down to a way which is 'not more than 5m away' from the original might save a considerable amount of space. You can also strip out all of the data/tags which you are not interested in rendering. Or you

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-02 Thread Aun Yngve Johnsen
On 02/07/2009, at 23:32, John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com wrote: People care because it has been standardized and is being implemented by major players: http://dev.w3.org/geo/api/spec-source.html Dunno about you, but 50,000,000 blackberry

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread Stefan de Konink
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 John Smith wrote: Or you could use some binary format that reduces all the bloating produced by xml. ...or database [files] as Rory McCann suggested, for direct usage. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux)

Re: [OSM-talk] map with FF 3.5 geolocation und hostip

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Aun Yngve Johnsen skipp...@gimnechiske.org wrote: First of all I doubt there are 50,000,000 blackberry users, Not my figure, but apparently the number of active BB subscribers that number sounds a little too high, and yes, they can be I'm not sure but the number of their

Re: [OSM-talk] Making an offline OpenStreetMap CD/DVD ?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Or you could use some binary format that reduces all the bloating produced by xml. ...or database [files] as Rory McCann suggested, for direct usage. I'm guessing the database files would take up more space due to overheads and

[OSM-talk-nl] lokatie bewust surfen

2009-07-02 Thread Bas
Beste Talk'ers, http://www.nu.nl/internet/2032918/firefox-krijgt-nieuwe-mogelijkheden.html Lokatie Ook maakt de nieuwe versie het mogelijk om de lokatie van de gebruiker - met diens toestemming - door te geven aan een website. Die kan afhankelijk daarvan relevante informatie tonen, zoals een

[OSM-talk-nl] rss feeds voor forum postings en regio changes in osm

2009-07-02 Thread Rejo Zenger
Hi, Op het forum van OSM levert extern.php?action=newtype=RSSfid=14 een RSS feed van de nieuwe artikelen op (voor in dit geval het forum met ID 14). In de RSS feed zitten echter alleen de meta gegevens van de posts. Vrij waardeloos. Is er ook een manier om de complete post in de RSS feed te

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] rss feeds voor forum postings en regio changes in osm

2009-07-02 Thread Rob
op vraag 2 zou ik zeggen, kijk eens op http://www.itoworld.com/static/osmmapper Op 2 juli 2009 13:48 schreef Rejo Zenger osm-talk...@subs.krikkit.nl het volgende: Hi, Op het forum van OSM levert extern.php?action=newtype=RSSfid=14 een RSS feed van de nieuwe artikelen op (voor in dit geval

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] rss feeds voor forum postings en regio changes in osm

2009-07-02 Thread Rejo Zenger
++ 02/07/09 14:23 +0200 - Rob: op vraag 2 zou ik zeggen, kijk eens op http://www.itoworld.com/static/osmmapper Dat ziet er veelbelovend uit. Dank voor de tip. -- Rejo Zenger . r...@zenger.nl . 0x21DBEFD4 . https://rejo.zenger.nl GPG encrypted e-mail prefered. signature.asc Description:

Re: [OSM-talk-nl] rss feeds voor forum postings en regio changes in osm

2009-07-02 Thread Lambertus
Ik heb je request op het forum neergezet. Als er geen negatieve reacties op komen dan zal ik proberen de RSS feeds aan te passen zodat de post inhoud er ook bij komt te staan. http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=28353#p28353 Rejo Zenger wrote: Hi, Op het forum van OSM levert

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-02 Thread Sam Couter
b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: If you feel like learning how to compile Java code then this page gives some instructions: http://www.cs.usfca.edu/~parrt/course/601/lectures/java.tools.html Whoa, too complicated! And difficult to make work for anything less trivial than

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au wrote: From: b.schulz...@scu.edu.au b.schulz...@scu.edu.au Subject: Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM? To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org Date: Thursday, 2 July, 2009, 1:38 AM If you feel like learning how

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-02 Thread Sam Couter
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: It's also used from within eclipse, which I already know how to use for making apps for Android, but no idea about making libraries for JOSM... I'd expect the output from the ant script would be the plugin JAR file, which you can probably copy into

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: I'd expect the output from the ant script would be the plugin JAR file, which you can probably copy into ~/.josm/plugins and restart JOSM. It shouldn't be any more difficult than that. It can probably be built with ant outside Eclipse

Re: [talk-au] How to make unamed streets stand out on JOSM?

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Step 1 is to pull the JOSM code from SVN: svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org /usr/src/osm Actually step one checks out the existing plugins, so ignore what I thought was step 2.

[talk-au] Updating the validator plugin...

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: Step 1 is to pull the JOSM code from SVN: svn co http://svn.openstreetmap.org /usr/src/osm I cheated, I used the debian/rules file to rebuild it ;) However I did seem to manage to get it to ignore where one of the tags is

Re: [talk-au] Updating the validator plugin...

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: I also want to get it to ignore any railways that are abandoned since there is no track to connect with, and any level crossings have been ripped out etc. Well I managed to solve that issue, now I just have unconnected ways being

Re: [talk-au] Updating the validator plugin...

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com wrote: What was railway line has been turned into an unpaved road and the validator plugin is throwing up an error about unconnected way where the barrier=gate is. I think I have solved that issue as well... new version up

Re: [talk-au] Tagwatch

2009-07-02 Thread John Smith
--- On Thu, 2/7/09, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: If you attempt to download it other than clicking on the button you do not get the file.  Found that out before. Someone fixed something, it's now not showing up as 22bytes... Size:102.79 MB, created July 01 2009 Total Downloads:

Re: [Talk-br] Mapas do IBGE

2009-07-02 Thread Vitor George
Olá Ricardo, É possível sim, pois os mapas são de domínio público. O que você está pensando em utilizar? A gente está convertendo dados de fronteira de município do IBGE, para importar. Abs Vitor 2009/7/2 Ricardo Padilha ricardospadi...@gmail.com Oi, Podemos usar os mapas do IBGE

Re: [Talk-br] Digest Talk-br, volume 10, assunto 2

2009-07-02 Thread Marcos Chaves
Vitor / Claudomiro, vocês precisam de alguma ajuda com as importações ou com os algoritmos? Me mandem uma mensagem que podemos conversar. Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2009 10:33:23 -0300 From: Vitor George vitor.geo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Talk-br] Geração automática de mapas To: rodr...@avila.eti.br,

[Talk-de] highway=incline Steigung

2009-07-02 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin! highway=incline definiert Steigungen - aber nach MapFeature ist das als NODE zu definieren. Für Steigungen ist doch aber interessant von Wo bis Wo diese verlaufen und dann wäre noch die Richtung wichtig ! Hat einer von Euch hierzu schon weitergehende Überlegungen angestellt -

Re: [Talk-de] JOSM - Kreis zeichnen

2009-07-02 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Tobias Wendorff wrote: Ulf Lamping schrieb: Du bist also einer von denen, auf dessen geschriebenes Wort man sich nicht verlassen kann. Nö. Wenn der Wunsch als Ticket auftaucht, werde ich mein Snippet dort posten. Ich weiß aber heute schon, dass die Standard-Antwort

Re: [Talk-de] Admin boundarys / Das ewige Geweine Was: Subjektive OSM Statistik

2009-07-02 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 12:02:22PM +0200, Nevel Gandish wrote: Allerdings ist mir doch nicht ganz wohl dabei. Die bisher in der Datenbank vorhandenen Daten sind nach bestem Wissen und Gewissen korrekt. Sollten sich jetzt deutschland- oder sogar weltweit solche rough guesses finden, untergräbt

Re: [Talk-de] highway=incline Steigung

2009-07-02 Thread Chris-Hein Lunkhusen
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: highway=incline definiert Steigungen - aber nach MapFeature ist das als NODE zu definieren. Für Steigungen ist doch aber interessant von Wo bis Wo diese verlaufen und dann wäre noch die Richtung wichtig ! Ja, wie immer gibt es mehrere Möglichkeiten. Den Node setzt

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread Jochen Topf
On Wed, Jul 01, 2009 at 01:55:43PM +0100, SteveC wrote: The license is interesting, because if you think about it and I was evil then I would join the people who like the public domain. Because then it would be much easier for my company, and others, to do what they liked with the data

Re: [Talk-de] Routing über einen Platz

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Wagner
Chris-Hein Lunkhusen schrieb: Was mir da gerade noch auffällt: Die Definition highway=track | surface=unpaved | highway=unsurfaced {add motorcar = no} [0x0a road_class=0 road_speed=1 resolution 22] steht VOR den höherwertigen Straßen. Heisst dass, er routet z.B. nicht über

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread dgdg
Verstehe ich alles - bei kommerziellen Konferenzen. Da darf das gerne auch mal einen Tausender pro Tag kosten - zahlt sowieso die Firma. Aber 100 Euro sind für den ambitionierten Hobby-Mapper eben schon zuviel und da darf man sich nicht wundern, wenn irgendwann nur noch die Abgesandten von

Re: [Talk-de] Probleme mit dem Bearbeiten von TYP-Dateien

2009-07-02 Thread Christoph Wagner
Jan Tappenbeck schrieb: Hi ! ich habe mir die TYP-Dateien für den Garmin von [1] besorgt und wollte diese mit MapTK bearbeiten. Bei der Analyse bekomme ich allerdings eine Fehlermeldung. Christopher empfiehlt auch den Webeditor [2]. Weiß einer von Euch ob es das Differenzen im

Re: [Talk-de] Hello from England

2009-07-02 Thread dgdg
The mailing lists are one of the largest communication problems. Important informationen disappears within a few days - and I have little desire to constantly scan any HTML archives. And even if you read daily, you cannot be sure to get the really important information. Detlef Peter Dörrie

Re: [Talk-de] highway=incline Steigung

2009-07-02 Thread Markus
Hallo Chris, highway=incline definiert Steigungen Für Steigungen ist interessant von Wo bis Wo diese verlaufen Richtung wichtig SRTM Höhendaten Dimitri arbeitet an einem Script, das aus Höhen-Mengendaten (Punkte) (auch ungenauen GPS-Höhen!) mit statistischen Methoden genaue Werte

Re: [Talk-de] Radvermietungsplätze taggen

2009-07-02 Thread Jan Tappenbeck
Moin! habe jetzt amenity=bicycle_rental operator=stadtradhamburg ref=[Nummer der Station] verwendet. beispiel: [1] Werde dieses in [2] einbauen. Vielleicht kann man das in die Presets einbauen? ... fände ich auch gut! gruß Jan :-) [1]

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