Re: [Talk-hr] Promocija Splitske USE-IT karte temeljene na OSM podatcima

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
Zagrebačka promocija karte Splita je danas 26.02.2014. u 17h u KSET-u. Ako nekog interesira :D On 01/18/2014 03:17 PM, hbogner wrote: http://infozona.hr/news/ovako-se-turist-pretvara-u-splicu/6586 Di izlazimo, di jedemo, zašto žugamo, šta nam znače zidići... Koja je razlika između Kraševih

Re: [Talk-hr] Promocija Splitske USE-IT karte temeljene na OSM podatcima

2014-02-26 Thread Janko Mihelić
Dosta smo loši u ovim pohađanjima :D Ja ne mogu danas nikako.. Dana 26. veljače 2014. u 13:13 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao/la: Zagrebačka promocija karte Splita je danas 26.02.2014. u 17h u KSET-u. Ako nekog interesira :D On 01/18/2014 03:17 PM, hbogner wrote:

[Talk-hr] Karta spomenika

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
http://sapzagrebulupuh.wordpress.com/ Netko zna nešto o ovom? ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-hr

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
Pozdrav mapperi Jel ovaj letak ok ili trebamo šta mjenjati? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/letak-a6.pdf Ako da javite do sutra. Pozdrav ___ Talk-hr mailing list Talk-hr@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread SilverSpace
Ok je za letak, dovoljno informacija. srijeda, 26. veljače 2014. korisnik hbogner hbog...@gmail.com napisao je: Pozdrav mapperi Jel ovaj letak ok ili trebamo šta mjenjati? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3220458/letak-a6.pdf Ako da javite do sutra. Pozdrav

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Tekst je OK, no previše je teksta. Za letak bi trebalo biti više šareno a manje teksta. Npr. na naslovnici slika neka i samo kratko; mi kartiramo svijet pridruži nam se. A s druge strane tekst, ali kraći i link na wiki gdje mogu saznati više. On 26 Feb 2014 16:57, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
On 02/26/2014 05:14 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Tekst je OK, no previše je teksta. Za letak bi trebalo biti više šareno a manje teksta. Npr. na naslovnici slika neka i samo kratko; mi kartiramo svijet pridruži nam se. A s druge strane tekst, ali kraći i link na wiki gdje mogu saznati

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
Vedran je u FB grupi stavio jedan primjer pa pogledajte https://www.facebook.com/groups/541098862671461/ https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1/1902793_10152198568368346_1997549752_n.jpg ___ Talk-hr mailing list

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Može. On 26 Feb 2014 17:29, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/26/2014 05:14 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Tekst je OK, no previše je teksta. Za letak bi trebalo biti više šareno a manje teksta. Npr. na naslovnici slika neka i samo kratko; mi kartiramo svijet pridruži nam se. A s

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Draft ideja za prednju stranicu: http://i.imgur.com/jWRj1Ic.png 2014-02-26 22:28 GMT+01:00 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: Može. On 26 Feb 2014 17:29, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/26/2014 05:14 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Tekst je OK, no previše je

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Evo sitnih izmjena: http://i.imgur.com/70zBitX.png 2014-02-26 22:32 GMT+01:00 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: Draft ideja za prednju stranicu: http://i.imgur.com/jWRj1Ic.png 2014-02-26 22:28 GMT+01:00 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: Može. On

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Evo i verzija s logom: http://i.imgur.com/kaO8Cjs.png 2014-02-26 22:56 GMT+01:00 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: Evo sitnih izmjena: http://i.imgur.com/70zBitX.png 2014-02-26 22:32 GMT+01:00 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: Draft ideja za

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Evo png i Inkscape verzije: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5vv06xmveq4uyc/OSM%20plakat.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/7e1sg0ur3kuldjk/OSM%20plakat.svg 2014-02-26 23:07 GMT+01:00 valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com: Evo i verzija s logom: http://i.imgur.com/kaO8Cjs.png

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
Super, ali tu verziju u boji ćemo onda za sljedeću verziju. Za sutra trebam spremiti crno bijelu verziju. Nju možemo dijeliti po planinarskim domovima, biciklističkim klubovima i sličnim mjestima..., ali i radionicama, predavanjima, konferencijama, ... On 02/26/2014 11:07 PM,

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
On 02/26/2014 11:16 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Evo png i Inkscape verzije: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5vv06xmveq4uyc/OSM%20plakat.png https://www.dropbox.com/s/7e1sg0ur3kuldjk/OSM%20plakat.svg Kao što naziv kaže ovo je super za neki veći plakat :D Za A6 letak bi ipak stavio nešto

Re: [Talk-hr] Promotivni OSM letak

2014-02-26 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Nope, za manji plakat ide i manje informacija, ako staviš hrpe teksta budi siguran da će sve završiti u košu. Informacije se daju usmeno ili na webu. Letak je tu samo da ih privuče. On 26 Feb 2014 23:20, hbogner hbog...@gmail.com wrote: On 02/26/2014 11:16 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [OSM-talk-be] (geen onderwerp)

2014-02-26 Thread Jo
Oei, ik ben al een uur te laat. Ik kom toe over een half uur. Ik zit hier nog te spetteren in Wetteren. Jo Op 25 februari 2014 14:53 schreef Jorieke Vyncke jorieke.vyn...@gmail.com: Hallo allemaal, Morgen is het nog eens OpenStreetMap bijeenkomst in Gent! Dus iedereen is welkom om 19u in

[OSM-talk-be] 1 or 2 lanes ?

2014-02-26 Thread Gilbert Hersschens
I have a highway with separate roads in each direction. Each road has one lane for traffic and one breakdown lane to the right. Normally we tag this as a road with one one-way lane (we only count TRAFFIC lanes, see http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes). The highway goes through a tunnel.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Talk-ca] Nouvelle licence de données ouvertes au Québec

2014-02-26 Thread Luis Villa
On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 3:12 AM, Diane Mercier diane.merc...@gmail.comwrote: I reiterate. It is the responsibility of OSM Foundation to instruct his community of his CC 4.0 interpretation as it has done for the CC 2.0 and CC 3.0 And in my humble opinion, the tiles and the BD licenses should

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Lester Caine
Clifford Snow wrote: When editing, it is time consuming to make changes to one when the two are connected. Leaving the two connect can lead to problems if the editor doesn't see that they inadvertently moved the other. Roads are not a special case here ... any way elements that co-exist with

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Pieren
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: 5m,10m... and there is no reason to virtualy extend them and falsify the real world. +1 omg. In the real world, a highway is not a thin polyline... Wouldn't it be nice if the editors wouldn't allow polygon to

[OSM-talk] SOTM-EU talk submission extended

2014-02-26 Thread Christoph Hormann
Hello everyone, the Call for Presentations for the SOTM EU conference taking place in Karlsruhe in June is extended until March 17. We have already received a lot of interesting talks and would like to give everyone who is preparing a submission a bit more time. Also if you have not yet

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Dave F.
On 26/02/2014 01:02, Mike Thompson wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if the editors wouldn't allow polygon to connect to highways. The edges of some polygons are truly coincident with road centerlines. For example, many municipal boundaries. I'm not convinced this is usually true. It maybe UK

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Philip Barnes
Inthe UK the boundaries were there long before road maintenance was thought of. A couple of real life examples http://osm.org/go/eu5Dsjb0--?layers =N The border between Leicestershire and Warwickshire has been split to either side of Watling Street to solve the problem of maintenance. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Dave F.
On 26/02/2014 10:27, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: 5m,10m... and there is no reason to virtualy extend them and falsify the real world. +1 omg. In the real world, a highway is not a thin polyline... Yes, that why he's saying

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2014-02-26 11:42, Dave F. wrote: On 26/02/2014 01:02, Mike Thompson wrote: Wouldn't it be nice if the editors wouldn't allow polygon to connect to highways. The edges of some polygons are truly coincident with road centerlines. For example, many municipal boundaries. I'm not convinced

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Dave F.
On 26/02/2014 11:16, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-02-26 11:42, Dave F. wrote: I'm not convinced this is usually true. It maybe UK specific, but municipal boundaries were more likely to originally be placed on physical boundaries to farms estates such as walls, fences etc. before tracks/roads

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2014-02-26 12:31, Dave F. wrote: On 26/02/2014 11:16, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-02-26 11:42, Dave F. wrote: I'm not convinced this is usually true. It maybe UK specific, but municipal boundaries were more likely to originally be placed on physical boundaries to farms estates such as

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: I'm not convinced this is usually true. It maybe UK specific, but municipal boundaries were more likely to originally be placed on physical boundaries to farms estates such as walls, fences etc. before tracks/roads were

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread hbogner
On 02/26/2014 12:11 PM, Dave F. wrote: On 26/02/2014 10:27, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us wrote: 5m,10m... and there is no reason to virtualy extend them and falsify the real world. +1 omg. In the real world, a highway is not a thin

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-26 14:50 GMT+01:00 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com: Yes, that's what I'm saying. Don't attach landuse and other real world representing polygons to the road centerline. We should not attach landuse=park,grass,cemetary,... to highway=road,primary,secundary, ... I am going even further

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Jean-Marc Liotier
On 26/02/2014 15:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I am going even further by saying ideally a landuse=residential/industrial/commercial/retail polygon should not incorporate any public road at all. But then how do you tag named industrial or commercial zones ? In France there are ZI Zone

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 26/02/2014, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 26/02/2014 11:16, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-02-26 11:42, Dave F. wrote: It would be pretty silly to have a municiple boundary splitting the centre of a road so different administrations were responsible for maintaining the left the

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread moltonel 3x Combo
On 26/02/2014, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 26/02/2014 10:27, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us Think that, in some parts of the world, you don't have high res. images and you cannot count the amout of lanes or see the shoulders or

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Andrew Hain
Jean-Marc Liotier jm at liotier.org writes: On 26/02/2014 15:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I am going even further by saying ideally a landuse=residential/industrial/ commercial/retail polygon should not incorporate any public road at all. But then how do you tag named

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Dave F.
On 26/02/2014 18:34, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 26/02/2014, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 26/02/2014 10:27, Pieren wrote: On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:33 AM, Clifford Snow cliff...@snowandsnow.us Think that, in some parts of the world, you don't have high res. images and you cannot

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Dave F.
On 26/02/2014 18:42, moltonel 3x Combo wrote: On 26/02/2014, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 26/02/2014 11:16, Maarten Deen wrote: On 2014-02-26 11:42, Dave F. wrote: It would be pretty silly to have a municiple boundary splitting the centre of a road so different administrations

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-26 15:56 GMT+01:00 Jean-Marc Liotier j...@liotier.org: But then how do you tag named industrial or commercial zones ? In France there are ZI Zone Industrielle or ZA 'Zone d'Activité) which include public ways. I would do this with name and place tags. cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] Not attaching polygons to roads

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-02-26 19:43 GMT+01:00 Andrew Hain andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk: Jean-Marc Liotier jm at liotier.org writes: On 26/02/2014 15:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I am going even further by saying ideally a landuse=residential/industrial/ commercial/retail polygon should not

Re: [Talk-br] Mapas do IBGE

2014-02-26 Thread Hermann Peifer
Ola, No ano passado, abaixei alguns mapas do IBGE e fiz um processamento segundo as etapas abaixo. O resultado nao e perfeito, mais... A etapa #5 e a mais trablahosa e tem 30+ setores censitarios no minicipio :-( Abs, Hermann - # 0. Create a working directory and use it

[Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Pessoal, Repensando um pouco sobre este tutorial (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Tutorial:Restri%C3%A7%C3%B5es_de_Convers%C3%A3o#Linha_como_intermedi.C3.A1rio), fico na dúvida do que exatamente recomendar pros iniciantes. O problema é que restrições que usam linhas com o papel via (ao

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
2014-02-26 15:24 GMT-03:00 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: Opiniões? Eu pessoalmente prefiro manter a geometria correta da rodovia, mesmo que acabe ficando com uma restrição não-funcional. O que dá para fazer em alguns casos é substituir por uma restrição equivalente. Por exemplo,

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Erick de Oliveira Leal
Ontem que comecei a criar restrições, nunca tinha criado uma antes. No TrackSource não precisavamos quebrar uma via para fazer uma restrição nela, apenas ligavamos os pontos onde nao se podia. Quando fui fazer pelo josm, o plugin de restrições disse que eu tinha que quebrar e já até apresentava um

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Segundo o que eu entendi restrições de manobra são relações apenas entre vias, por isso você tem que quebrá-las. Mas acho interessante propor a mudança da relação para nós e não vias. Em 26 de fevereiro de 2014 15:48, Erick de Oliveira Leal erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu: Ontem que

Re: [Talk-br] Plugin confaltion do JOSM

2014-02-26 Thread Marcelo Pereira
Srs, Desculpem a demora em responder, estava enrolado em achar o Java 6 para instalação. Pois bem. Instalei o Ubuntu do zero, com o java 6. Usei os JOSMs 6502, 6409 e 6296 Sempre com o mesmo erro, consigo até listar os erros encontrados nos mapas, mas na hora de conflacionar, erro!!! Aliás,

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Eu também prefiro, e recomendei a mesma coisa (com uma justificativa) aqui: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pt-br:Tutorial:Restri%C3%A7%C3%B5es_de_Convers%C3%A3o#Alternativas_equivalentes 2014-02-26 16:56 GMT-03:00 Gerald Weber gwebe...@gmail.com: Eu pessoalmente prefiro manter a geometria

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Ligavam os pontos? Interessante. Como funcionava isso, exatamente? A resposta é: sim, você sempre precisa quebrar. É preciso que as vias de entrada e saída sejam pedaços conectados, e que cada pedaço tenha como ponto extremo (ponto final): - o ponto intermediário (da interseção); ou - o início e

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Erick de Oliveira Leal
O Paulo Carvalho sabe melhor pois ajudou a desenvolver as ferramentas. Eu só as usava. Em 26/02/2014 17:25, Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com escreveu: Ligavam os pontos? Interessante. Como funcionava isso, exatamente? A resposta é: sim, você sempre precisa quebrar. É preciso que as

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hm preciso fazer um exemplo disso. Mas acho que se você mudar a via intermediária por 1 nó só e proibir somente a conversão à esquerda, você acaba permitindo o retorno, não? Esse negócio de juntar num nó só geralmente é o que eu faço quando você pode virar à esquerda e não retornar, ou pode

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
O problema de usar um siga em frente ao invés de um proibido virar é que dá mais margem para gerar erros. Usando esse exemplo: http://i.imgur.com/j6VKrIp.png É proibido virar à esquerda (em vermelho), mas caso a pessoa utilize um siga em frente (em verde) e esse caminho de destino for muito

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
2014-02-26 17:29 GMT-03:00 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: Hm preciso fazer um exemplo disso. Mas acho que se você mudar a via intermediária por 1 nó só e proibir somente a conversão à esquerda, você acaba permitindo o retorno, não? Não em alguns casos. Exemplo:

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
posteriormente alguém acaba alterando/quebrando/mesclando esse caminho Alguém que usa o Potlatch né, porque tanto o iD quanto o JOSM tratam corretamente dessa situação. Mas concordo (até que consertem o Potlatch). Outro porém de usar um siga em frente é que a aplicação pode renderizar a placa de

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Tem razão, nessa situação eu sempre faço com no_turn_left também. Vou acrescentar no tutorial. Mas quando se tem um cruzamento grande mesmo, não tem muito como fugir do dilema entre usar uma linha como intermediário ou um ponto e fazer alterações na geometria (a questão principal talvez seja

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
2014-02-26 17:44 GMT-03:00 Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com: Mas quando se tem um cruzamento grande mesmo, não tem muito como fugir do dilema entre usar uma linha como intermediário ou um ponto e fazer alterações na geometria (a questão principal talvez seja quais são a menos pior

Re: [Talk-br] Tutorial de restrições de conversão

2014-02-26 Thread Raffaello Bruno Limongi Freire
Ótima iniciativa, Fernando. Note que há muita gente nova entrando no projeto que fica meio perdida com tantas informações espalhadas. From: fernando.treb...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 02:47:57 -0300 To: talk-br@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-br] Tutorial de restrições de conversão

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Raffaello Bruno Limongi Freire
Por isso que no Editor de Nós do Tracksource, de autoria do Paulo Carvalho, as restrições eram criadas por nós. Definindo-se 3 nós (no caso de curvas) ou 4 nós (no caso de retornos em U) dava para facilmente criar as restrições sem ter que quebrar nada. Se o compilador cgpsmapper que parou no

Re: [Talk-br] Tutorial de restrições de conversão

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Fiz justamente pensando nessa gente nova. Se tiver dúvidas ou souber de dúvidas frequentes de outros, me manda que eu tento complementar o tutorial. 2014-02-26 18:12 GMT-03:00 Raffaello Bruno Limongi Freire raffaellobr...@hotmail.com: Ótima iniciativa, Fernando. Note que há muita gente nova

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Fernando Trebien
Nesse caso, alterando a geometria, tem sim, mas não é o ideal. Você suprime v (transformando-a num ponto) e daí conecta A diretamente a B. Pra minimizar a confusão, A pode ser paralela a D e seguir bem próxima dela. Na interseção de A, B, C e D, você coloca todas as restrições. O resultado: - se

Re: [Talk-br] Restrições de conversão usando linha como intermediário

2014-02-26 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Não ajudei. Eu sim fiz a ferramenta, sozinho. Desculpe o tom, mas é o fato. Em 26 de fevereiro de 2014 17:28, Erick de Oliveira Leal erickdeoliveiral...@gmail.com escreveu: O Paulo Carvalho sabe melhor pois ajudou a desenvolver as ferramentas. Eu só as usava. Em 26/02/2014 17:25, Fernando

Re: [Talk-br] Plugin confaltion do JOSM

2014-02-26 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Marcelo, abra um ticket sobre esses problemas: http://josm.openstreetmap.de/newticket Erro de introspecção já é difícil de diagnosticar sendo conhecedor do código, imagine sendo de fora... não trave com isso, passa para frente. Se alguém mais vir esses erros de Java aparecendo, não percam tempo

Re: [Talk-br] Nomes antigos

2014-02-26 Thread Paulo Carvalho
Valeu! Em 26 de fevereiro de 2014 21:01, Arlindo Pereira openstreet...@arlindopereira.com escreveu: Basta separar os valores por ; . Por exemplo: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/130347317#map=18/-22.90260/-43.17552 []s Arlindo 2014-02-26 20:57 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho

Re: [Talk-br] Nomes antigos

2014-02-26 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Isso vale para outras tags que possam ter mais de um valor, como alt_name (nomes populares pelos quais a via é conhecida), phone etc. []s 2014-02-26 21:04 GMT-03:00 Paulo Carvalho paulo.r.m.carva...@gmail.com: Valeu! Em 26 de fevereiro de 2014 21:01, Arlindo Pereira

Re: [Talk-br] Problema de usabilidade do editor de endereços do iD

2014-02-26 Thread John Packer
Atualização: O campo addr:housename foi retirado do iD, agora só pode ser incluído manualmente usando etiquetas. Um usuário (não-brasileiro) retirou o campo depois de ver que estava confundindo usuários em outros países. O *pull request* se encontra no seguinte link:

Re: [Talk-br] Proposta de padronização de lombadas no Brasil

2014-02-26 Thread John Packer
Olha, vendo essa etiqueta traffic_calming=table, eu vou segurar a minha proposta por um bom tempo até conseguir investigar melhor essa situação. A pergunta é: existe alguma lombada de 3+ metros que não seja um traffic_calming=table? (ou seja, que não tenha o topo achatado). Sinceramente, nunca

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread chris66
Am 26.02.2014 00:03, schrieb Peter Wendorff: Mehr tut area=yes aber nicht, und wenn das tatsächlich DER Indikator in Mannheim ist, um die benannten Blöcke darzustellen, dann ist das ein Problem. Moin, die Mannheimer Quadrate sind getaggt als: place=neighbourhood area=yes name=A1

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Manuel Reimer
Bernd Wurst bernd at bwurst.org writes: accessforestry bicycle yes foot yes highway track name Hoblersbergweg tracktype grade2 Auch wenn Off-Topic: Ich würde bicycle = yes und foot = yes rausnehmen und das access = forestry auf motor_vehicle = forestry umstellen.

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Theodin
Am 26.02.2014 08:43, schrieb Bernd Wurst: Hallo. Am 26.02.2014 00:01, schrieb Frederik Ramm: die Straßen in den Naherholungsgebieten zwischen den Vororten (highway = track) werden nun auch namenlos angezeigt, obwohl sie Straßennamen tragen, bei Fußwegen (path oder footway) mit Namen

[Talk-de] BING hat neue aktuelle Bilder veröffentlich

2014-02-26 Thread hike39
Nachdem ich so lange gewartet habe, ist es nun endlich so weit. Es gibt neue BING-Bilder auch für das Bayr.Oberland. Nun wartet viel Arbeit auf die OSMler hier in dieser Gegend. Aber Vorsicht, ich habe festgestellt, dass da ein Versatz im Vergleich zu Bayern 2m vorhanden ist. Gruß hike39

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo. Am 26.02.2014 10:21, schrieb Manuel Reimer: Auch wenn Off-Topic: Ich würde bicycle = yes und foot = yes rausnehmen und das access = forestry auf motor_vehicle = forestry umstellen. Das man einen Wald/Feldweg zu Fuß und mit dem Fahrrad benutzen kann ist IMHO selbstverständlich. Die

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Hallo Bernd, was hältst Du davon, konkrete Probleme zu verlinken, damit man konkrete Fragen stellen kann, was da was ist oder sein soll. Dass ein Name am Goetheplatz fehlt, hattest du geschrieben. Dass das zusammen mit highway=pedestrian und area=yes korrekt gerendert werden sollte, hast du hier

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo Peter. Zunächst: Watch your tone. Ehrlich. Am 26.02.2014 11:00, schrieb Peter Wendorff: Hallo Bernd, was hältst Du davon, konkrete Probleme zu verlinken, damit man konkrete Fragen stellen kann, was da was ist oder sein soll. Dass ein Name am Goetheplatz fehlt, hattest du geschrieben.

[Talk-de] SOTM-EU Einsendeschluss für Vorträge verlängert

2014-02-26 Thread Christoph Hormann
Hallo, der Einsendeschluss für Vorträge bei der SOTM EU in Karlsruhe im Juni ist verlängert worden - bis zum 17. März. Wenn Ihr also noch nicht dazu gekommen seit, Euer Thema zu formulieren, habt Ihr noch ein wenig mehr Zeit dazu. Einsenden könnt Ihr auf

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Simon Poole
Mir ist ehrlich gesagt nicht ganz klar was die Aufregung soll. 2 von 5 Karten auf openstreetmap.org zeigen weiterhin Namen von tracks an, Beispiel http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/48.98690/8.35193layers=C . Des weiteren kann man auch weiterhin beliebige Karten produzieren, die die Namen

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 26.02.2014 11:20, schrieb Bernd Wurst: Hallo Peter. Zunächst: Watch your tone. Ehrlich. Am 26.02.2014 11:00, schrieb Peter Wendorff: Hallo Bernd, was hältst Du davon, konkrete Probleme zu verlinken, damit man konkrete Fragen stellen kann, was da was ist oder sein soll. Dass ein

Re: [Talk-de] Inseln und Inselgruppen

2014-02-26 Thread Markus
Vielleicht ist der Tread Namen in Mapnik eine gute Gelegenheit, die Frage zur Benennung von Inseln und Insel-Gruppen wieder aufzunehmen. Dann könnte man das Rendering vielleicht gleich mit erledigen... Es ging darum, wie man Bedeutung und Dominanz der Inseln irgendwie abbilden/berechnen kann...

Re: [Talk-de] Vulkane und natural=crater

2014-02-26 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:46:39PM +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am 25. Februar 2014 21:08 schrieb Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: So ein ausgedehntes Lavafeld halte ich sehr wohl für ein geografisches Feature +1 natural=lava_field ? war auch mein erster Gedanke, aber wo es

Re: [Talk-de] Vulkane und natural=crater

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2014 15:33 schrieb Richard Z. ricoz@gmail.com: +1 natural=lava_field ? war auch mein erster Gedanke, aber wo es schon seit Ewigkeiten natural=lava mit exakt der gleichen Bedeutung im wiki gibt bin ich eher geneigt das lava zu übernehmen als auf lava_field zu ändern?

Re: [Talk-de] Vulkane und natural=crater

2014-02-26 Thread Richard Z.
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 10:29:28PM +0100, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 25 February 2014, Richard Z. wrote: natural=lava halte ich weniger für einen guten tag, weil es kein geografisches Feature sondern ein Material ist. Auch halte ich es für schwierig, das abzugrenzen (alle

Re: [Talk-de] Inseln und Inselgruppen

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2014 15:24 schrieb Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: Es ging darum, wie man Bedeutung und Dominanz der Inseln irgendwie abbilden/berechnen kann... Ziel wäre, dass man die Inselgruppen und Inseln genauso schön sieht wie in einem guten Schulatlas - nur halt passend zu den Zoomstufen

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Bernd Wurst
Ich mach ja kein Tofu normalerweise aber hier kann ich nicht Sachbezogen antworten: Du legst mir in den Mund, dass ich irgendwas über irgend einen Goetheplatz geschrieben hätte. Habe ich nie. Ich weiß nichts von einem Goetheplatz. Lass das bitte. Am 26.02.2014 11:57, schrieb Peter Wendorff:

Re: [Talk-de] Vulkane und natural=crater

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2014 15:50 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: +1 natural=lava_field ? war auch mein erster Gedanke, aber wo es schon seit Ewigkeiten natural=lava mit exakt der gleichen Bedeutung im wiki gibt bin ich eher geneigt das lava zu übernehmen als auf lava_field

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2014 08:46 schrieb Bernd Wurst be...@bwurst.org: Ja, aber selbst highway=... und name=... reicht scheinbar nicht aus? Was denn noch? render_this_name=yes oder wie? :-) eintragen bei github / carto osm Dass tracks und pedestrians derzeit keine Namen haben (und service mit

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2014 10:21 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de : Auch wenn Off-Topic: Ich würde bicycle = yes und foot = yes rausnehmen und das access = forestry auf motor_vehicle = forestry umstellen. Das man einen Wald/Feldweg zu Fuß und mit dem Fahrrad benutzen kann ist IMHO

Re: [Talk-de] Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten

2014-02-26 Thread Falk Zscheile
Am 26. Februar 2014 16:38 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 26. Februar 2014 10:21 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de : Auch wenn Off-Topic: Ich würde bicycle = yes und foot = yes rausnehmen und das access = forestry auf motor_vehicle = forestry umstellen.

[Talk-de] Access-Tags (was: Re: Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten)

2014-02-26 Thread Manuel Reimer
On 02/26/2014 04:38 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: so oder so sind Krankenfahrstühle wohl nicht berücksichtigt bei diesen beiden Taggingvarianten. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wheelchair den key für forestry von access zu motor_vehicle finde ich auch OK, das bicycle=yes und ggf. auch

[Talk-de] Update JOSM Mappaint Style Coloured Streets 2.0

2014-02-26 Thread Gertrud Simson
Hallo, ich habe den JOSM-Style Coloured Streets aktualisiert. Zuerst wollte ich meine Bearbeitung separat bereit stellen, habe dann aber zusammen mit dem ursprünglichen Autor geozeisig entschieden, den Style zu aktualisieren, damit es nicht zuviele verschiedene Styles für den gleichen Zweck gibt.

Re: [Talk-de] Update JOSM Mappaint Style Coloured Streets 2.0

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Vonwald
Hi! Super, danke. Dieser Stil ist wirklich SEHR nützlich für's Adressmappen. Außerdem gibt es jetzt eine alternative Version, in der statt des ersten der letzte Buchstabe des Straßennamens ausgewertet wird. Dies ist geeignet für Länder, wo viele Straßen mit dem gleichen Buchstaben beginnen

Re: [Talk-de] Update JOSM Mappaint Style Coloured Streets 2.0

2014-02-26 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 09:38:39PM +0100, Gertrud Simson wrote: Außerdem gibt es jetzt eine alternative Version, in der statt des ersten der letzte Buchstabe des Straßennamens ausgewertet wird. Dies ist geeignet für Länder, wo viele Straßen mit dem gleichen Buchstaben beginnen (z.B. in

[Talk-de] Wochennotiz Nr. 188 18.2.-24.2.2014

2014-02-26 Thread wn reader
Hallo, die Wochennotiz Nr. 188 mit allen wichtigen Neuigkeiten aus der OpenStreetMap Welt ist da: http://blog.openstreetmap.de/blog/2014/02/wochennotiz-nr-188/ Viel Spaß beim Lesen! ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-de] OSM Notes herunterladen

2014-02-26 Thread Alexander Lehner
Servus - auch auf die Gefahr hin, dass ich diese Frage wiederhole: Die OpenStreetBugs wurden ja jetzt in 'OSM Notes' konvertiert. Bei OSB gabs die Moeglichkeit, eine Region von Bugs als XML runterzuladen. Das vermisse ich jetzt. Geht das irgendwie? Die Notes sind ja offensichtlich auch nicht

Re: [Talk-de] Update JOSM Mappaint Style Coloured Streets 2.0

2014-02-26 Thread Gertrud Simson
Am 26. Februar 2014 22:16 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: Warum alternative Version und nicht konfigurierbar? Seit einigen Wochen kann man Stil-Farben konfigurierbar machen in JOSM. Das verwende ich im Fahrspur-Stil um verschiedenste Einstellungen konfigurierbar zu machen. Ist

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Notes herunterladen

2014-02-26 Thread malenki
On 26.02.2014 23:35, Alexander Lehner wrote: Bei OSB gabs die Moeglichkeit, eine Region von Bugs als XML runterzuladen. Das vermisse ich jetzt. Geht das irgendwie? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Map_Notes_API hth Thomas ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] OSM Notes herunterladen

2014-02-26 Thread Alexander Lehner
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014, malenki wrote: On 26.02.2014 23:35, Alexander Lehner wrote: Bei OSB gabs die Moeglichkeit, eine Region von Bugs als XML runterzuladen. Das vermisse ich jetzt. Geht das irgendwie? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6#Map_Notes_API hth Thomas Ja, merci! A.

Re: [Talk-de] Access-Tags (was: Re: Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten)

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 26. Februar 2014 21:00 schrieb Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de : Die überwiegende Mehrzahl von Feld- und Forstwegen sind definitiv für Fußgänger und Radfahrer erlaubt. und das soll ausreichen als Argument? Gruß Martin ___ Talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Access-Tags (was: Re: Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten)

2014-02-26 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 27. Februar 2014 02:10 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: und das soll ausreichen als Argument? (um die tags zu löschen) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] Update JOSM Mappaint Style Coloured Streets 2.0

2014-02-26 Thread Christoph
Ich arbeite auch gerne mit dem Stil in leichter Modifikation für die NRW ALK Rasterdarstellung. http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=23576 Christoph Sent from my iDingens Am 27.02.2014 um 00:04 schrieb Gertrud Simson simson.gert...@gmail.com: Am 26. Februar 2014 22:16 schrieb

Re: [Talk-de] Access-Tags (was: Re: Keine Namen in Mapnik und anderen Karten)

2014-02-26 Thread Manuel Reimer
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com writes: Die überwiegende Mehrzahl von Feld- und Forstwegen sind definitiv für Fußgänger und Radfahrer erlaubt. und das soll ausreichen als Argument? Wenn die Tags sind meiner Ansicht nach redundant nicht als Argument für eine Löschung der Tags

Re: [Talk-de] Access-Tags

2014-02-26 Thread Bernd Wurst
Hallo Manuel. Am 27.02.2014 07:58, schrieb Manuel Reimer: Mir geht es um dieses Schild: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Zeichen_260.svg Mit dem Zusatz darunter Land- und forstwirtschaftlicher Verkehr frei. Ich lese da erstmal das motorisierte Fahrzeuge verboten sind. Weiterhin lese

[Talk-it] http://blackpoint.smaniadisicurezza.it/

2014-02-26 Thread mircozorzo
Ciao, ho visto questa iniziativa che anche se un po' acerba (manca una'app e i punti sono pochi) mi sembra buona e mi chiedevo se sia possibile chiedere a loro una collaborazione, ad esempio se la licenza se la concede, integrare i blackpoint nei dati osm o in altro modo? Sito Ania

Re: [Talk-it] GPX del confine amministrativo

2014-02-26 Thread bredy
Non funziona mi dice che Error: line 11: static error: Unknown attribute reg in element has-kv. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/GPX-del-confine-amministrativo-tp5795396p5797525.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

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