Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
specifically indicate inaccuracies and errors in OSM data but not a lot of ressources are used at the moment to make use of this. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-14 Thread Christoph Hormann
preconceptions, dealing with the problems of technical language etc. But doing this across significant cultural and geographical barriers is a whole other story. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] Some thoughts against remote mapping

2015-06-13 Thread Christoph Hormann
and design and the barriers for those are much higher than for mapping. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
not establish a name on their own. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
. with British English vs. American English. In the opposite direction i know transliteration from Russian into Latin script varies a lot. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?

2015-05-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
and less important places verifiability gets difficult. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Keulen (was Re: Can wikidata links help fight name inflation?)

2015-05-30 Thread Christoph Hormann
for the mapper to show the names added are verifiable (like by being consciously and specifically used by several other independent sources). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-21 Thread Christoph Hormann
parliament comes to mind (Reichstag). [...] Oh, if we only had that kind of budget... (just for reference: that was 600 Million D-Mark back then) -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https

Re: [OSM-talk] List of OSM-based services

2015-08-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
. Such list will never be complete or even representative. In particular on an English wiki page services exclusively in other languages will be underrepresented. If you want to consider the overall diversity of uses of OSM data you'd better cast a wider net. -- Christoph Hormann http

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
alternative. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] The Proposed Great Colour Shift

2015-08-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
does not exist here. So i should have better said among those participating in discussions on the matter on several occasions there was a large majority in support for such a change. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - routable network and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
locally for QA tools or validators in editors - just like in case of the coastline. If you rely on polygon features creating connectivity in the waterflow network you need to analyze it in full before you are able to spot where mapping is broken. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - routable network and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
arising from having components of the network represented by undirected polygon geometries. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Then and Now revived

2015-08-01 Thread Christoph Hormann
, and share your favorite comparisons! But that is not the 2007 coastline, is it? -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - routable network and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
in uniform color a full water flow network is the basis of almost everything you might want to do. In particular any differentiated rendering depends on a consistent importance rating which can only be produced based on water flow analysis. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto v2.33.0 release

2015-08-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
and there are tree covered areas which are neither of these. But in reality this is not the case and due to the widespread use of these tags it is likely this will never happen, it would require a systematic re-assessment of millions of features. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] Summer/Winter/Seasonal Imagery Air Photos for use in JOSM?

2015-08-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
to high resolution images from Bing/Mapbox for verification. In some parts of the Alps you have also local sources with aerial photos available which usually are from a much stricter time frame in summer/autumn. As far as i know Andermatt is not included there though. -- Christoph Hormann

Re: [OSM-talk] waterway - routable network and reservoirs/lakes

2015-07-27 Thread Christoph Hormann
flows out of that reservoir, should a linear way be drawn through the reservoir to connect the two streams (the reservoir is currently represented by its own closed way tagged natural=water, water=reservoir)? Yes. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering idiosyncrasies

2015-11-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Monday 02 November 2015, Dave F. wrote: > I genuinely can't work out if that's said as a joke. It is not, landcover polygon rendering is sorted by size in the standard style. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list t

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Carto: White Roads & Road Widths

2015-11-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
very likely to frustrate those who participated in those previous discussions by bringing ideas and arguments that have been covered in depth previously. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https:

Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposal: Sunset ref=* on ways in favor of relations

2015-11-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Friday 06 November 2015, Paul Johnson wrote: > Stop rendering this key and instead render the relations Is there *any* map style that does this at the moment? AFAIK osm2pgsql does not support including relation membership info in the rendering database. -- Christoph Hormann h

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Carto: White Roads & Road Widths

2015-11-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
subjective. If at the end of a long process a decision is made without once more listing in depth all arguments for and against it this does not mean the decision is arbitrary. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSM Carto: White Roads & Road Widths

2015-11-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
You might disagree with the outcome but in this particular point you can hardly say it was not covered in depth. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Christoph Hormann
rule'. For OSM the boundary is what locals treat as the boundary. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Christoph Hormann
e other side. The general convention in OSM, also for boundaries, is to map the actual situation on the ground, that is which areas are actually administred by which authority. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] open question about boundaries sharing nodes with ways or nodes

2015-10-14 Thread Christoph Hormann
ed river. Examples: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/32.0077/35.5299 http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/0.7489/29.9702 -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-08-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
ayless area to a solidly built gravel road. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Three-months ban is over

2015-09-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
the situation getting again as unbearable and damaging for the atmosphere on the wiki as it was now." So far I don't see any indication of attempts for more productive social interaction. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Portal for end users

2015-09-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Tuesday 15 September 2015, Alex Barth wrote: > > Actually to be precise: OSM world wide, TomTom in US + Canada + > Mexico. Not that it matters much but Canada north of Lancaster Sound is OSM (though coastline is at least a few months old). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.i

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

2015-09-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
s bad' without showing that you have considered the reasons why this change has been made in the first place does not make you very believable. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

Re: [OSM-talk] recent changes in rendering the map make it worse

2015-09-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
negative. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Community Conference

2015-12-03 Thread Christoph Hormann
. Of course the congress has the huge advantage of taking place at the same location every year which simplifies a lot of things. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] FOSM Elections - We need representatives that can represent and respect the diversity of OSM, maintain his dynamism

2015-12-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 02 December 2015, augustindo...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Martin, are you sure ? I tried to subscribe OSMF list 10 days ago, > I received : > [...] Writing to the list is reserved to members, reading it is open to the public (via the link provided by Martin). -- Christoph Hor

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
dition to the right (and in case of HOT apparently the obligation) to vote for the board you also have the right - together with your fellow members - to decide who becomes a member. To me this seems a quite fundamental difference to the OSMF. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imag

Re: [OSM-talk] From osmf-talk: "Balancing the presence of the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT US Inc) in the OpenStreetMap Foundation"

2015-11-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
df According to the available information Kate is a member of HOT - so are several candidates for the OSMF board: Mikel Maron Joseph Reeves Yantisa Akhadi Other candidates are active in HOT to some extent (like participating in HOT mapping tasks) but are not members of the HOT organizatio

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
structions from the OSM wiki and allowing the OSM community to provide input and fixes this way. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
use on any scale. But there is no sense in getting lost in this particular example - it is just that, an example. So i repeat my suggestion to improve QA of the mapping instructions and allowing the OSM community to effectively correct mistakes there. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] A message to our friends at HOT, Peace Corps etc. about Changeset Comments

2015-11-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
ing different. Referring to > Do we not have the same goal of a free map of the entire world? if instructions like the above indeed describe the aims of HOT for mapping its vision of a free map of the entire world is indeed very different from mine. -- Christoph

Re: [OSM-talk] Reporting Attribution Issues on Mapbox maps

2016-06-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
ind quite a few entries in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution with a comment indicating a Mapbox map. Not all are still current but many are. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapbox imagery won't load hires imagery that seems to exist

2016-06-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
g/mc/?lon=13.754608=56.157484=16=3=bing-satellite=mapnik=mapbox-satellite http://mc.bbbike.org/mc/?lon=13.754186=56.157108=15=3=bing-satellite=mapnik=mapbox-satellite -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.

Re: [OSM-talk] Lybian territorial waters

2016-06-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
use be disputed, conflicting with others or be frivolous to a varying degree. But there is not really an objective way to distinguish between 'real' and 'non-real' territorial waters or legal and illegal territorial claims. -- Christoph Hormann http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
quite a few cases where water mapping covers the whole floodplain of a braided river like here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=12/46.0764/12.8456 Similar situation by the way with landuse=reservoir/landuse=basin - acutal presence of water vs. dedication of an area for certain use. -- Chri

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
ou want to abolish the water=* or if you just prefer using waterway=riverbank instead of natural=water + water=river - which does not in any way conflict with the water=* tag. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@open

Re: [OSM-talk] [Osmf-talk] [Talk-us] license changes

2016-02-23 Thread Christoph Hormann
whoever they want to. [1] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1q89ImYlJd4Jm1E9JYL5lpcLGiZDbvYpYg5Vazdg_A2w/edit -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Release openstreetmap-carto v2.38.0

2016-02-18 Thread Christoph Hormann
s at all, it is now for surface=sand (fine pattern) and surface=gravel| fine_gravel|pebbles|pebblestone|shingle|stones|shells (coarse pattern). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Aerodromes

2016-04-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
r than removing an aerodrome based on the fact that it is not visible on imagery. See also here for a different angle on the problems of aeroway=aerodrome as it is currently mapped: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1143 -- Christoph Hormann http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
ve waterbody data in OSM is by actually doing mapping work and correcting errors based on local knowledge or imagery. You can believe me when i say that factual errors and inaccuracies are much more common and harmful problems w.r.t. water area mapping than basic tagging inconsistencies. -

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM plugin to import GeoJSON?

2016-03-21 Thread Christoph Hormann
alite SW are you using? I am not aware of any software dealing with spatialite files that does not use libspatialite/SQLite. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [BOT] [RFC]: water surfaces

2016-03-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
an a human mapper and you would destroy any chance of actually determining the original intent of the mapper with such edits. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=coastline vs natural=water fix and refresh tiles

2016-03-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
ne changes from turning up in the map. If you want to change coastline tagging of the Russian lakes you should discuss this with the Russian community instead of simply changing it. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk ma

Re: [OSM-talk] natural=coastline vs natural=water fix and refresh tiles

2016-03-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
ut RU contributors about that. I brought the matter up some time ago in http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=29127 Situation might have changed since then since the Russian lakes are now the only ones remaining with coastline tag. -- Christoph Horma

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
e, like the significant upfront investments necessary to produce this kind of data, but solid support from the already much more successful OSM world by emphasizing the need and desire for truly open image data would certainly help this sector a lot. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
an see there have already been reactions in that direction. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-25 Thread Christoph Hormann
ges for practical use. And you are right - we should not be so arrogant to think we know things better than the local community in Benin. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Crowdfunding for OpenStreetMap in Bénin : 275km² high resolution satellite imagery for Cotonou by 1-May 2016!

2016-04-28 Thread Christoph Hormann
r. [1] http://blog.imagico.de/new-franz-josef-land-map/ [2] http://maps.imagico.de/#map=9/6.702/2.215=en=sat=osmim=3=8 tms:http://imagico.de/map/osmim_tiles.php?layer=S2A_R022_N06_20151221T103009={zoom}={x}={-y} -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Uber most likely using OSM data

2016-07-27 Thread Christoph Hormann
data for this > function without any visible attribution to OSM. Looks like it. The area shown by the way is here: http://mc.bbbike.org/mc/?lon=100.565099=13.736474=17=3=nokia-map=mapnik=google-map Is there any mentioning of OSM in the app? Like hidden on some 'about page' or similar?

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-12 Thread Christoph Hormann
ften than you probably think but ultimately it also does not work in many cases because not every mapper is willing or capable to do this. And - since you always talk about enforcing rules - this is generally not about enforcement, this is about maintaining a friendly and consistent environm

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Thread Christoph Hormann
the DWG making sure mappers comply with the rules are open to everyone. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
representative. This of course does not mean a direct vote of some sort on things (see the tag voting process) would be any more representative. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-11 Thread Christoph Hormann
therefore there has been discussion how to deal with that. But as far as i can see none of the changes mentioned in this thread can be considered borderline cases in that regard. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Failed water proposal reversal

2016-06-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
iverbank tag is that it was originally meant and is widely understood to be a way tag while today it should normally be applied to the multipolygons relation. Cleaning up such ambiguities - not mechanically as it has been suggested in the past but with individual verification - using either waterw

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto database schema change

2017-01-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
particular it would be important to know if there are situations where the new database schema leads to incorrect mapper feedback through the the way things are rendered. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Carto database schema change

2017-01-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
rg map: http://mc.bbbike.org/mc/?lon=-2.521598=51.318976=15=3=mapnik-german=mapnik=geofabrik-standard -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Limiting changesets to 10k changes.

2017-01-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
h a lot of input from various sides for half a year - so at this stage this is more about communicating this change to a wider range of people (and also application developers) than about "opening a discussion". -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___

Re: [OSM-talk] Suez Canal - Coastline or not?

2017-02-01 Thread Christoph Hormann
s in case of the Suez Canal). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

2017-01-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
ecision process transparent. But this is just my personal view of course and i am not in a position to impose this on anyone so it is safe to just ignore my opinion here. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

2017-01-31 Thread Christoph Hormann
we are grateful for the bids to host State of the Map > (OSMF) and we are happy to help interested groups prepare future > bids. Is this process openly documented somewhere? Last Sotm WG minutes on http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Group_Minutes#StateoftheMap_Organizing_Committee

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-16 Thread Christoph Hormann
olygon size. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
of large scale tracing work seems a much more productive way and much more compatible with normal manual mapping in OSM. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons

2017-02-17 Thread Christoph Hormann
keep them. Of course this task would be technically non-trivial, many of these polygons are large, a lot of big river polygons that should be split into smaller ones etc. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM EU

2017-01-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
The name 'SOTM EU' is probably too often read with a political connotation - better to see it just as SOTM Europe, in principle this could take place outside the EU as well - Switzerland, Norway, Russia, ... -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering hill figures

2017-02-27 Thread Christoph Hormann
ation. I don't think it would be appropriate for the standard map style to render these figures independent of physical observable properties like this. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Planned water color change on osm-carto

2016-09-22 Thread Christoph Hormann
re desirable for other reasons anyway. Some more background information and a link to an implementation of this idea can be found on https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1781#issuecomment-241061156 -- Christoph Hormann http://ww

Re: [OSM-talk] How to check the historic popularity of a tag?

2016-08-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
ic data but you are not the first to ask for it: https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/93 The easiest way to determine this for low volume tags at the moment probably is via overpass API. For high volume tags you need to process the history planet. -- Christoph Hormann http:/

Re: [OSM-talk] How to check the historic popularity of a tag?

2016-08-24 Thread Christoph Hormann
ps://github.com/tyrasd/taghistory. Very nice. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Use policies update

2016-11-05 Thread Christoph Hormann
that but something like "using free tile services from osm.org" + a donation link would not seem inappropriate to me. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM New Logo Proposal

2016-10-15 Thread Christoph Hormann
proposed text design is kind of strange by the way since it emphasizes 'StreetMap' relative to 'Open' - even though 'Open' is, as most know, the only part of the name that truly fits (Simon also mentioned this on github by the way). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ __

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
cal mapper after moving away and how far you can become a local mapper during a short term visit is an open question. But this is just minor semantics. The important thing is that OSM is primarily about local knowledge and human assessment of the on-the-ground situation. -- Christoph H

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
n error but taginfo tells us that there are more than 22000 wikidata values that are used more than once. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
ou usage statistics for the values used: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=wikidata#values -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
On Wednesday 04 January 2017, Andy Mabbett wrote: > There are circumstances where it is legitimate for a > Wikidata value to be used more than once. Then you'd need to change the tag definition on the wiki to reflect that (and to explain what these circumstances are). -- Christoph Horman

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-07 Thread Christoph Hormann
munity is interested in outside advise how to productively map large and remote areas without imports i am sure there are many people who would be glad to provide input. But lets separate this from the discussion here (which is about wikidata tags). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imag

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap carto "FR" v2017 online...

2017-01-02 Thread Christoph Hormann
o the most common tag for indicating tidal features is tidal=yes and not water=tidal. You do not seem to render natural=shoal and wetland=tidalflat which are the dominant ways of mapping tidal areas at the moment (though admittingly wetland=tidalflat does not really make much sense for rocky tid

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
which are very useful for the community. Fixing them is something where a manual approach with local knowledge is considered desirable by most mappers though. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
desirable by the expensive humans on a per case basis. If this seems unreasonable to you it could be a good idea to consider OSM might not be the right project for you. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
added without actually looking at the data and the real world situation. Rory already explained this for one case but you can widely look around there and find many more. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
emoved. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
n reverting others' work. The on-the-ground rule usually gives us a very powerful tool to resolve conflicts, something that other communities like wikipedia lack. And the user blocks - which are the only real power of the DWG - are well documented on http://www.openstr

Re: [OSM-talk] Wikipedia/Wikidata admins cleanup

2017-01-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
e sitting in Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver [is] really more of a local mapper on Devon Island or Ellesmere Island than someone from Britain, Germany or Russia?" -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list tal

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons, some notes

2017-03-19 Thread Christoph Hormann
l mapping activity. However as long as the bad quality Corine data is there and meant to stay few people are interested in editing this mostly meaningless data. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.

Re: [OSM-talk] Appropriate attribution to OSM in a mobile app

2017-03-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
owsing - than an always on message on the map display. Of course many app developers do not look for a good way to do this but just look for the least generous way to avoid getting sued. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list t

Re: [OSM-talk] Fixing broken multipolygons, some notes

2017-03-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
are western and central Europe (mostly, there are gaps even in that, in particular in the Italian Alps). And these are obviously not particularly difficult in terms of forest mapping. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk maili

Re: [OSM-talk] The Top Ten Tasks list

2017-04-06 Thread Christoph Hormann
uld not means the task in question is undesirable or even unimportant, it just means that ten other things are considered to be more important. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Community survey: help shape the State of the Map 2017 program!

2017-04-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
ian: 18 Commercial products/projects: 13 Academic research: 12 Local communities international: 12 Local Japanese community: 10 General technical subjects: 9 General community subjects: 7 Others that do not fit any category: 4 -- Christoph Hormann htt

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
offers a product called "OpenStreetMap Data in Layered GIS Format" [1] - that is certainly a nominative use but at the same time also "sell(ing) stuff with OSM’s brand on it" as per section 3.4. [1] http://www.geofabrik.de/data/geofabrik-osm-g

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
enStreetMap' when advertising commercial services and products based on OpenStreetMap data. This could be considered to fall under 3.3 (nominative/referential use) but 3.3.3 specifically excludes commercial purposes. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
m essentially no rules to these - however strict or lenient you might consider them) will have. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
r opinion in open discussion even if it appears to you they are in error (which might at least in some cases be due to you misunderstanding them). -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft Trademark Policy

2017-08-04 Thread Christoph Hormann
eetMap" and "OSM" and similar/composite terms being used much less even in fairly strictly OSM related projects that the OSMF would probably have no problem with using the name. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Rendering issues with Carto 4.0

2017-06-20 Thread Christoph Hormann
ey are member of a relation or not - which is a good thing and ultimately should also make it easier for mappers understanding how multipolygons work. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

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