[talk-ph] Historical OSM

[Jim Morgan]

Hi,

I was just curious to look at the OSM map for Manila from 2007 when I started 
mapping. Is there a way to display this? Some sort of OSM time-machine?

I looked around but didn't find anything useful, except for someone suggesting 
to take a planet dump from that time, and render it in my own mapping server. 
Probably possible, but a little more effort than I was hoping for!

J.

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Re: [talk-ph] Proposal to move talk-ph to OSM Discourse

[Jim Morgan]

I would support any solution that allows me to continue to interact with the 
list via email. Any solution that requires me to login to a website and respond 
there would lose my engagement pretty quickly.

Its just the way I work: Email is great for asynchronous communication. I can 
respond when I feel like it. But as soon as the conversation moves to a 
chat-based format then I'm forced to actively keep up with it.

The threading in Discourse is nice, as it lets you focus on discussions you're 
interested in, and ignore others.

Jim

On 7/14/23 02:03, Arnalie Vicario wrote:

+1 for me too.

would love to know what people who are active here in the mailing list thinks 
about the proposal of moving to Discourse :)

On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:09 AM Michael Collinson  wrote:

+1 from me. I am probably the list's biggest dinosaur - an old timer who
just loves doing everything via email. But it looks as though I can
still get my email (just PH-tagged??) and it is a chance to try
something new.

Mike

On 2023-07-13 04:13, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> How do people here think about deprecating the use of the talk-ph
> mailing list and start using PH-tagged threads in the OSM Discourse
> site? https://community.openstreetmap.org
>
> To give some examples, here are threads tagged for the German
> community: https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/de/
>
> And here are the threads tagged for the United States community:
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/c/communities/us/
>
> Supposedly, talk-ph is the "official" communications channel for the
> PH community but this mailing list barely has any posts in the past
> few years.
>
> One advantage of OSM Discourse is that it's tied to OSM accounts and
> can still be accessed via email (so it won't alienate people who
> prefer email).
>
> ~Eugene
>
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[talk-ph] Worldmapper

[Jim Morgan]

Just discovered this site. It has some interesting visualizations on it, for 
example:

https://worldmapper.org/maps/gridded-population-phl/

Jim

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[talk-ph] AmCham Mapping Event

[Jim Morgan]

Just posting this here, in case anyone is interested in attending.

The Philippines' National Mapping and Resource Information Authority or NAMRIA, 
is an agency of the Philippine government under the Department of Environment 
and Natural Resources responsible for providing the public with mapmaking 
services and acting as the central mapping agency, depository, and distribution 
facility of natural resources data in the form of maps, charts, texts, and 
statistics.

Following this, it is very relevant for information technology in the 
Philippines to foster in order to provide a web-native integrated management 
information and safety and security planning geo-data, especially in times of 
crisis and calamity. Furthermore, it is as important for businesses in the 
Philippines to develop an understanding of the Geoportal Philippine Map Apps, 
and utilize it to effectively promote the safety of their members and staff.


https://amchamphilippines.glueup.com/event/utilizing-mapapps-in-creating-a-safe-and-secured-metro-manila-57268/

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[talk-ph] Metro Manila Postcodes Map

[Jim Morgan]

Quick question: Does anyone know of the existence of a map of the postcodes of 
Metro Manila, showing their boundaries?

Either a pre-existing one in image form, or a method of querying OSM or some 
other database-driven map to get it. Or any other suggestions welcome.

My googling hasn't turned up anything yet.

Jim

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[talk-ph] Mapping Tools.

[Jim Morgan]

Thought this list might be useful to pass on.

https://gijn.org/2022/02/17/9-essential-mapping-tools-for-journalists-in-2022/

J.

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[talk-ph] Sloped Borders

[Jim Morgan]

From the consistently entertaining XKCD:

https://xkcd.com/2519/

Jim

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Re: [talk-ph] weeklyOSM #541 2020-11-24-2020-11-30

[Jim Morgan]

Just thought I'd  mention that one of the links in that Newsletter has special 
relevance to Manila, in case you missed it. The Alexander Zipf one ... 




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On 06/12/2020 19.12, weeklyteam wrote:
> The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 541,
> is now available online in English, giving as always a summary of a lot of 
> things happening in the openstreetmap world:
> 
>  https://www.weeklyosm.eu/en/archives/14021/

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[talk-ph] Topical nCov dispersion map.

[Jim Morgan]

Seemed relevant enough to post, and pleasingly factual

ICAO Coronavirus 3DFX dispersion


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[talk-ph] Spelfie App

[Jim Morgan]

Could be useful for remote mapping?

Spelfie.com allows users to take a selfie at 
the exact time that a satellite camera captures their location from 
space. Users of the app click on the event they are attending, then, 
once they are at the venue, the app provides coordinates so the user 
knows precisely where to position themselves and at what time. They then 
take a photo of themselves at the moment the satellite is taking its 
photo and later the same day the app sends back the satellite image 
juxtaposed with the selfie to be viewed in its gallery. Spelfie 
spokesman Anthony Burr said that in future the images will be available 
within a matter of minutes rather than hours.


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Re: [talk-ph] weeklyOSM #477 2019-09-03-2019-09-09

[Jim Morgan]

I was pleased to see this Linux Distro mentioned, which I was previously 
unaware of. 

OSGeoLive is a Linux distribution that runs directly from a bootable DVD or USB 
thumb drive. You also can load a pre-made virtual machine disk file (vmdk) that 
runs in a VMware Workstation or VirtualBox environment. Or you can install it 
the old-fashioned way as a dual-boot or sole operating system on a hard drive.

https://www.linuxinsider.com/story/86226.html

It also served as a good roundup of all the available Linux mapping-related 
software, some of which I'll now have to investigate.

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[talk-ph] Agloe

[Jim Morgan]

This amused me. I thought I'd share it.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5071422202#map=16/41.9662/-74.9017

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Re: [talk-ph] Congratulations to the UP Resilience Institute YouthMappers!

[Jim Morgan]

Excellent. I hope they can get the new International airport on the map! That's 
been bugging me for months! :-)

Jim


Eugene Alvin Villar wrote on 17/04/2019 1:23 PM:
> The UP Resilience Institute YouthMappers received funding to help implement 
> their Bohol exposure data mapping from TELUS Philippines. 
> 
> More info here:
> https://www.facebook.com/UPRIYouthMappers/posts/274609556753352
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[talk-ph] Tie Points

[Jim Morgan]

Hi,

Figured there might be a few people on the list familiar with the concept of 
tie points here and in particular in connection with the Land Registry in the 
Philippines. 

I'm trying to solve a problem for a friend and need some help, so maybe contact 
me off list if you can help. There will be some consulting work in it if you're 
interested. 

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[talk-ph] Music Venues

[Jim Morgan]

I've often thought it would be useful to be able to tag music venues, bars 
which have bands on, etc. I see there is a tag in the proposal stage. How are 
people in the OSM-PH community handling this, if at all?

Jim

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[talk-ph] Bohol Panglao Airport

[Jim Morgan]

As I understand it, the Bohol Panglao Airport is now open, and has superceded 
Tagbilaran. As this is a fairly major bit of infrastructure, OpenStreetMap 
should probably be updated to include it, but the data seems a bit sparse right 
now. Does anyone have up to date imagery which could be used to fill out a few 
details? The available Bing imagery claims to be 2018, but just shows 
grassland. 

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1776750

Jim

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[talk-ph] XKCD does GIS

[Jim Morgan]

https://xkcd.com/2029/


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[talk-ph] SatCam

[Jim Morgan]

Might be useful occasionally for getting Satellite images? "In return for
submitting their observations, users receive a copy of the satellite image
that was taken at their location"

iPhone only though. Why do developers do that? :-(

Jim

15. SatCam
http://satcam.ssec.wisc.edu

SatCam is a citizen science smartphone app that helps improve the quality
of information derived from satellite data. Users capture observations of
sky and ground conditions when a satellite is overhead. This data is then
submitted to the Space Science and Engineering Center at the University of
Wisconsin - Madison where it is used for quality control. In return for
submitting their observations, users receive a copy of the satellite image
that was taken at their location. SatCam currently works with the Terra,
Aqua, and Suomi NPP satellite networks. Sample submissions can be viewed
through the Browse SatCam Records link at the top of the page. SatCam is
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[talk-ph] Maps as Art

[Jim Morgan]

Or maybe Art as maps

http://www.xinjianlu.com/CityDNA

Have a good weekend all. 

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[talk-ph] Population Estimator

[Jim Morgan]

More mapping fun. Thought this might be useful to some of you. 

http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/mapping/popest/gpw-v4/

Blurb here:

http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/data/collection/gpw-v4/population-estimation-service

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[talk-ph] Pasay Boundary

[Jim Morgan]

The northernmost boundary of Pasay doesn't look right to me

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/113858#map=15/14.5533/120.9955

Most of the rest of it is following roads, rivers, coast etc, but it looks like 
this doesn't follow anything in particular. 

Jim

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Re: [talk-ph] Strava Heatmap

[Jim Morgan]

Eugene Alvin Villar wrote on Tuesday, 21 November, 2017 01:52 PM:
> I find it more useful for aligning imagery. :)

Interesting. I know how to align the background imagery in OSM to the GPS 
traces within OSM. But how would you do it using an external source like this? 
Just in case I need it sometime ... 

Jim

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[talk-ph] Strava Heatmap

[Jim Morgan]

Just of general mapping interest. 
https://labs.strava.com/heatmap/#13.42/121.01607/14.56427/hot/ride

Can use it to see where people cycle, run, etc. 

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[talk-ph] GLONASS

[Jim Morgan]

Just saw a phone advertised with GPS and A-GLONASS, so I looked it up. 

I know the current GPS system is old and up for retirement at some point. Maybe 
this is the replacement?

https://beebom.com/what-is-glonass-and-how-it-is-different-from-gps/

Oh, apparently iPhones already use as a GPS+GLONASS combination. Never knew ... 

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Re: [talk-ph] When to use"Saint" or "St." in place names

[Jim Morgan]

Just to flag a related issue, the search engine of OSM doesn't seem 'smart' in 
that it doesn't know that 'St.' and 'Saint' are equivalent (or 'St.' and 
'Street' for that matter!). So when you're searching for Santa Ana, but its in 
the database as Sta. Ana, it won't be found. So yes, it is important to 
standardize on something. Or make the search engine a bit smarter! Actually the 
second option sounds better ... but I don't know how to do that. 

Jim

Jherome Miguel wrote on Wednesday, 14 June, 2017 07:37 PM:
> After reading this OSM Help thread 
> (https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/19609/saint-or-st-is-there-an-official-osm-policy),
>  this has raised this question for place names in the Philippines starting 
> with "Saint" and "St.". While there is consensus on OSMPH to use "San" over 
> "Sn." and "Santa" over "Sta.", the case of "Saint" and "St." is unclear. I 
> have tended to spell out "St." on place names (including street names) using 
> them in the beginning to "Saint" with this lack of consensus, but, after 
> reading the linked OSM Help thread, I am made aware about the use "Saint" or 
> "St." in place names which start with those. If the sign uses "Saint", then 
> use it, and that is the same case for "St.", but this may be troublesome for 
> names which may be spelled out with "Saint" or "St." (something I encountered 
> with the name of Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, where it can be written 
> with "St." or "Saint"). Can that be used when choosing to use "Saint" or 
> "St."?
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Re: [talk-ph] Mapbox Satellite imagery updates (May 2017)

[Jim Morgan]

That's crazy. Boracay now has its first ever imagery! There's a lot of fixing 
up to happen down there ... :-) 

Jim

maning sambale wrote on Wednesday, 10 May, 2017 01:27 AM:
> But wait! There's more!
> 
> http://blog.digitalglobe.com/news/digitalglobe-satellite-imagery-launch-for-openstreetmap/
> https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/353700/25863783/b91e7e4a-350a-11e7-96d3-2d025a3a5e1c.gif

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Re: [talk-ph] ☑just a note

[Jim Morgan]

Grrr. I'd just like to say that this is not from me, wasn't sent from my 
computer, and didn't pass through my mail server. It originated from a server 
in Vietnam. 

I'm guessing the spambot is harvesting addresses and names from this forum and 
combining them together. The originating address for the last few spams has 
always been hsing at rocketmail.com, which is apparently a valid forum address. 
Anything we can do about it? 

Jim


Jim Morgan wrote on Tuesday, 09 May, 2017 04:46 AM:
> Dear, 
> 
> I've just wanted to say Hi and show you some cool things, check it  out  
> shackelford.narcoticharmony.com
> 
> Yours truly, Jim Morgan
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[talk-ph] Missing Road

[Jim Morgan]

This is odd. The end of Polaris street and the whole of Orion street are 
missing. 


http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=14.56256=121.03101#map=19/14.56256/121.03101

I deleted and recreated Orion street, but that still didn't prompt it to 
re-appear. 

Any ideas? Also, you used to be able to right click on the map to load the 
image. Seems like OSM has hijacked the right click menu. 

The image in question is this one.
http://b.tile.openstreetmap.org/19/438408/240703.png

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Re: [talk-ph] my place

[Jim Morgan]

So ... obviously don't click on that link ... :-)

Jim

OSM wrote on Saturday, 18 March, 2017 10:46 AM:
> I just wanted to share with you some thoughts about my favorite place, it's 
> so beautiful! Just take a look view message <>


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Re: [talk-ph] Residential.

[Jim Morgan]

Eugene Alvin Villar wrote on Wednesday, 22 February, 2017 04:17 AM:
> The wrong label is persisting on the map because low zoom level tiles are not 
> refreshed as often. I'm not sure when these are refreshed.

Aha. That makes sense. Always ask an expert! 

Jim

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[talk-ph] Residential.

[Jim Morgan]

Can't quite figure this out. Do we have Residential Island here in 
Philippines?


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[talk-ph] Google Timelapse 1984 to 2016

[Jim Morgan]

Just found this. Seems to need Chrome browser to work. 
https://earthengine.google.com/timelapse/

Mount Pinatubo area is worth a go. 

Jim

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[talk-ph] New Traffic Flow

[Jim Morgan]

Hiya, 

Tried to update the roads around the junction of Kamagong, Metropolitan and 
Ayala Ave with 4 sets of new traffic lights, new one-way system. 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/43503640

I think functionally it describes the new situation, but it could probably be 
done better. Does it make sense to some of the more experienced traffic flow 
experts here? Feel free to make it prettier, or ask me questions on- or 
off-list if you need clarification. 

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[talk-ph] Philippine Satellite Imagery

[Jim Morgan]

Thought this was relevant. 

DIWATA-1 was built with an PhP 800 million budget and the program ran for three 
years. It is the first microsatellite designed, developed, and assembled by 
Filipino researchers and engineers backed by the Department of Science and 
Technology (DOST), and the University of the Philippines Diliman (UPD) with the 
guidance of Japanese experts from Hokkaido University and Tohoku University.




They could probably have spent the money better on an army of photo drones! :-) 

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[talk-ph] True Size Map

[Jim Morgan]

Drag countries around to counteract Mercartor Effect. 
http://thetruesize.com/

Cute. Worth a couple of minutes. e.g. Philippines is much bigger than UK. 

Jim

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[talk-ph] Terrapattern

[Jim Morgan]

Search engine for satellite imagery. 
http://www.terrapattern.com/

Predictably, Philippines not on there, but an interesting map-related thing. 

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[talk-ph] Great OSM summary

[Jim Morgan]

Found this in Eugene's Weekly OSM roundup and thought it was worth pointing out 
as a resource. Its a really good introduction to the mapping process, and 
beyond. 

http://www.keypressure.com/blog/osm-in-the-beginning-there-was-a-node/

Jim

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Re: [talk-ph] Massive deletion of nodes?

[Jim Morgan]

maning sambale wrote on Monday, 22 February, 2016 11:48 AM:
> I found this user editing lots of duplicated nodes:
> http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-suspicious?country=23=96=-1=%3E=1000=d=n#4/-18.52/0.26

Appears to be an automated bot:  "I use the botdidier2020 account to make 
corrections on the buildings (import Maps) and correcting duplicated ways"

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[talk-ph] 7500 and counting.

[Jim Morgan]

MANILA, Philippines -The Philippines is now officially a +7,500 islands after 
the National Mapping and Resource Information Authority discovered 400 more 
islets in a series of mapping research.

http://themaharlikan.info/news/breaking-philippines-no-longer-7107-islands-after-discovery-of-400-more-islets/

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Re: [talk-ph] Downloading a section of the Philippine open street map

[Jim Morgan]

Erwin Olario wrote on Monday, 08 February, 2016 02:56 PM:
> Try this utility: http://extract.bbbike.org/

This is brilliant. I'd never come across that before. Great for downloading 
small areas like cities you're visiting, without having to download the entire 
country. Thanks for sharing. 

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Re: [talk-ph] Downloading a section of the Philippine open street map

[Jim Morgan]

Hi Frank,

Frank Woolf wrote on Thursday, 04 February, 2016 07:07 AM:
> Can someone please tell me where to go to select and download an up to date 
> map, preferably of only Davao city and surrounding area.

I'm not sure if this is what you're after, but I use the OSMAnd application on 
my Android phone, and that lets you download the entire Philippines for offline 
use in one file. 

I also used to use TrekBuddy. That will cache files, tile by tile, so if you go 
over the area you want while you're connected to Wifi, and then go somewhere 
where there's no data connection, it will use the cached files. 

There are probably many more solutions like this. 

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[talk-ph] What3Words

[Jim Morgan]

Thought this was interesting, but probably not very practical. Its basically an 
easy way of verbally sharing a geographic location. The idea is that the globe 
is chopped up into 3x3 metre squares, and each square gets assigned 3 unique 
words. eg, I'll meet you at study.recently.fattest

http://what3words.com/

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[talk-ph] Google Street View

[Jim Morgan]

Just noticed that they've finally published all the images they took last year 
for Metro Manila, and a little beyond. Very cool. I'll be searching this today 
for a while to discover some "Manila Moments" captured on camera. 

Meanwhile, what's the legality of this situation: I remember there's a 
restaurant on a certain street in QC. I go to Google Street View and find out. 
Is this information OK to put on OSM? Its not tracing maps ... its public 
domain info ... I already half know what the restaurant is called ... 

So I guess a broader question would be, "What is OK to use from this data?"

Happy (rainy) Sunday all. 

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[talk-ph] OSM website speed

[Jim Morgan]

Anyone else finding OSM slow to load for the last few days?

It could be a PLDT thing. I've had problems with them before where certain 
websites are super slow, while others load at the normal speed. It usually 
affects google sites though - Google Maps, Yahoo, Google Drive, Gmail etc. 
First time I've noticed OSM being sluggish. 

Jim

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[talk-ph] Mapping Resources.

[Jim Morgan]

Found a page of mapping resources for educational purposes and thought 
I'd share it.


http://www.nea.org/tools/teaching-with-maps.html

Particularly interesting was the one which allowed you to take photos of 
an area from the International Space Station. Not sure if it passes over 
the Philippines, but if it does, then you may be able to use it if 
you're affiliated with a school.


https://earthkam.ucsd.edu/

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Re: [talk-ph] Mapper in Cebu?

[Jim Morgan]

Lu Sevier wrote on Wednesday, 15 July, 2015 11:36 AM:
 Hello OSM community, 
 Does anyone know of local mappers in Cebu, especially Cebu City? I have a few 
 specific questions for them if so!

Maybe this might help?

http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc?zoom=14lat=10.3144388lon=123.9152493layers=B00FTTF

:-)

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[talk-ph] Drones Update

[Jim Morgan]

Found this update from January. 

Summary: Apparently its OK to have recreational drones under 1.5kg, but if 
you're doing it commercially you need a license. However UAVs cannot be flown 
into crowds or restricted areas like airports, or no-fly zones like military 
camps or the presidential residence


http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/420112/scitech/technology/caap-drones-for-commercial-use-must-be-registered

Thought that might be of interest. 

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Re: [talk-ph] OSMAnd now available (free) for iPhone

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maning sambale wrote on Wednesday, 22 April, 2015 10:22 AM:

I don't own an iPhone. Can anybody confirm if this works?
To test, please download a sample obf file from Vanuatu here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_03_Vanuatu_Pam_Cyclone_Response#Offline_Navigation_on_Small_Devices


And of course there are the full OSM obf files here too
http://download.osmand.net/list.php

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[talk-ph] OSM Website Slow

[Jim Morgan]

Hi,

Is it just me, or is the OSM website slow today? I've noticed it with a few 
sites, so maybe its PLDT. Facebook is normal speed, but anything to do with 
Google is almost unbearably sluggish, and now OSM as well ...

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[talk-ph] Mini Imaging Satellites.

[Jim Morgan]

Thought this was relevant. Maybe we can get full coverage in the Philippines at 
last ...

https://www.planet.com/

The TED video is worth watching if you have a few minutes. It explains what 
they're doing.


http://www.ted.com/talks/will_marshall_teeny_tiny_satellites_that_photograph_the_entire_planet_every_day

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[talk-ph] Why OSM is better than Google Maps.

[Jim Morgan]

Case in point ...

http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/13.8060/121.2714

:-)

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[talk-ph] Missing Maps Project

[Jim Morgan]

Saw this in the Guardian and thought I'd share it

http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/oct/06/missing-maps-human-genome-project-unmapped-cities

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[talk-ph] How big is one degree lat/long

[Jim Morgan]

Thought I'd pass this on as its tangentially related ...

http://factually.gizmodo.com/how-precise-is-one-degree-of-longitude-or-latitude-1631241162

Then of course I needed to find out the longitude calculation for the 
Philippines so ...


20 deg N (Batanes area) - 104.6 km
15 deg N (NCR) - 107.6 km
10 deg N (Cebu ish) - 109.6 km
5 deg N (Below Gen Santos) -  110.8 km

Courtesy of http://www.csgnetwork.com/degreelenllavcalc.html

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Re: [talk-ph] road name changes in Makati?

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maning sambale wrote, On Monday, 07 July, 2014 02:53 PM:

Kalayaan to Imaelda avenue: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/93890213/history


Kalayaan is still very much Kalayaan according to the signposts when I rode 
down it a couple of days back!


Senator Gil Puyat to Nicolas Buendia Road:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/146300437/history


Senator Gil Puyat used to be called Buendia, and in fact everyone knows it as 
that. I use the old name in taxis so that the driver knows I've been around for 
a while.

Maybe it should have an alternate_name tag as Buendia? Would that show up on 
searches though? Otherwise pretty useless. I do wish they'd stop changing road 
names by the way. Just leave them alone and name a new road after yourself!

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Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: MEDAIR : Philipines Imagery

[Jim Morgan]

On a related note, I was wondering about the feasibility of starting a 
crowd-funded venture to start up a drone operation here, with the object of 
putting rural areas of the Philippines on the map. I hadn't really thought 
through the details, but perhaps investors over a certain threshold - say USD 
1000 for example - could get priority mapping of their chosen area. Certain 
towns might need the data, or maybe in areas where there are high 
concentrations of hotels and tourists, the tourist industry might club together 
to get a decent map of the area. eg. Malapascua Island.

The initial funding would pay for the drone purchase, flights to the targeted 
areas and accommodation. After that, it could be spun off as a business.

Just an idle fantasy right now. Anyone have any thoughts about this?

Jim

maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 07 May, 2014 05:51 AM:

A team from Drone Adventure (http://www.droneadventures.org/) came to
Philippines to work alongside our team and take aerial pictures from
affected area where we work.


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Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops

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maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 29 January, 2014 06:40 PM:

Might it be more prudent if we can consolidate several of the requests into
1, preferably in Manila? Outside of Manila, there is no group of mappers who
are also interested in spreading the word or giving lectures, workshops, and
tutorials.


Just thinking out loud here ... would it be possible to do tutorials or demos 
online, using web conferencing software? Then the geographical location becomes 
irrelevant. It defintely works for Slideshows and QA - I've done a few of them 
on Online Security topics.

Here are a couple
http://www.anymeeting.com/   (ad supported)
https://www.meetingburner.com/  (ten participants free)

... and there are more around. Maybe OSM has an account with one of the paid 
ones, which we could borrow for an hour?

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Re: [talk-ph] Increasing demand for OSM talks and workshops

[Jim Morgan]

On 01/31/2014 09:18 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
But for real-time workshops and lectures, the problem would be the 
unreliable Internet connection.
I agree there would need to be a solid internet connection, but the 
bandwidth needed isn't that great, so interested parties would only need 
to get to a location where they could secure a reasonably reliable 
connection. In addition, a whole group of people could be sharing one 
client computer, so even if you're limited to 10 participants, that 
could be 10 small groups of people around the country.


The services I've used usually have some sort of slideshow presentation 
capability, have audio streaming for the presenter's voice, can do 
screen-sharing, for demonstrationg applications and techniques, and have 
a group chat facility where participants can ask questions. This all 
seems to work fine over a 1Mbit connection.




Also, I've noticed that Filipinos generally prefer face-to-face 
interaction. I've seen countless times where you ask the audience if 
they have any questions and nobody would raise their hands. But after 
the lecture is over, a few people would approach the lecturer and then 
ask questions. This kind of interaction would be hard to do online.
Point taken about the reticence of audiences here. I've held a few 
meetings here myself where its really hard to get input ... which has 
been the whole purpose of the meeting! But I think the group chat might 
actually encourage this. People actually seem to get braver when they're 
not putting their hand up in a roomful of people. Basically as the 
presenter is demonstrating something, questions appear in the group 
chat, and the presenter can address them when its convenient. It 
actually seems to work quite well. There are also options to send 
private messages by email which can be addressed in the QA session.


Anyway, just something to consider, and I'm just bouncing the idea around.

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Re: [talk-ph] latest map download

[Jim Morgan]

On 01/29/2014 11:29 AM, rem zamora wrote:
If you use OSMAnd on your android, you can also get the latest OSM map 
for PH Tutubi. :) That's what I use in android. There's a freeware 
version where you can download new maps in a limited number of times :)
Actually if you download them on your Desktop computer and copy them 
over to your phone manually, they don't seem to count against the total 
of 10 downloads. Or at least updating an existing map wouldn't increase 
the total.


http://download.osmand.net/list.php

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[talk-ph] Why we need OSM

[Jim Morgan]

In case anyone asks you, a useful summary of points

http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/01/04/why-the-world-needs-openstreetmap/

And in the Philippines of course, the data are just Better!

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Re: [talk-ph] UAV/Drone imagery over Tacloban

[Jim Morgan]

On Tuesday, 17 December, 2013 07:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote:
Anyway, the guys over at Drone Adventures have photographed various 
location in Haiti: http://www.droneadventures.org/2013/05/29/haiti/


Their photos are really well orthorectified.

Damn these things are cute ...
https://www.sensefly.com/drones/ebee.html

They mention the software they use for orthorectification too
http://pix4d.com/products/

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Re: [talk-ph] Mountains and elevations removed at Biliran

[Jim Morgan]

Andrew Buck wrote, On Friday, 22 November, 2013 01:03 AM:

I have thought about creating such a server but I do not have a computer to 
host it
on, etc.


This prompts me to mention that I recently built a tile server as a VirtualBox 
virtual machine. It works pretty well, and I can just fire it up when I need to 
generate some tiles, so no need for a separate computer.

The reason why I wanted a tile server was to generate offline tiles for 
Trekbuddy. The OSM servers don't like it when you use them and will start 
serving up blank tiles after a bit, so it seemed like the right way to go.

If anyone wants details, then you can contact me off-forum.

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Re: [talk-ph] [HOT] Typhoon Haiyan Mapping Progress

[Jim Morgan]

Just found this map in the New York Times, which credits OpenStreetMap. 
Presumably this is the end result of all the initial mapping done on OSM?


http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/11/11/world/asia/typhoon-haiyan-map.html?_r=0

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Re: [talk-ph] tagging questions

[Jim Morgan]

On Friday, 01 November, 2013 06:39 PM, Carlo Antonio Romero wrote:


I was trying to finish a couple tasks in the Candaba OSM Training and 
was wondering about heavy cloud cover in the imagery.


Are we going to make assumptions if an area has heavy cloud cover?

Im leaning towards no. id rather not tag something im not comfortable 
with. the closest solution i can make is a FIXME=resurvey or 
FIXME=resurvey - heavy cloud cover in imagery


Thoughts? suggestions?

You've probably tried this, and it doesn't really answer your question, 
but I just thought I'd mention its worth zooming in and out over an 
area. Sometimes you'll find that an area has cloud cover at one zoom 
level, but not at another ...


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Re: [talk-ph] Portable USB for OSM editing

[Jim Morgan]

tutubi wrote, On Tuesday, 08 October, 2013 02:37 PM:

i think this is what i need
i uninstalled flash on my laptop as it's too unstable and a security nightmare
i can't use Potlatch :(


The USB stick uses JOSM and therefore Java, not Flash.

Java is still reasonably safe to use on a PC, but you're strongly recommended 
to disable the browser plugin as that is the main attack vector. So you can 
still use JOSM/Java on your PC, with or without the USB stick.

Jim

P.S. They named a Bicycle Sharing project after you: 
http://cleanairinitiative.org/portal/node/12100
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Re: [talk-ph] video mapping

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maning sambale wrote, On Wednesday, 25 September, 2013 11:02 PM:

Nice article by Ervin on video mapping.
http://www.s1expeditions.com/2013/09/102-videomapping.html?m=1
I didnt know its possible to add gps coordinates as subtitles in a video.


That is interesting. I'd probably seen that GPSbabel could export in SRT 
format, but it didn't occur to me that this was subtitles as it was out of 
context. Question: how do you get the timing of the video and GPX to 
sychronise? For a start you'd have to make sure the video recording device and 
the gpx recording device had their time set the same. Do you sync them up just 
by switching them on at the same time, or is there a way to embed the time in 
the video? GPX has time information included of course.

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Re: [talk-ph] recommended csv format

[Jim Morgan]

On Thursday, 19 September, 2013 11:22 AM, Rally de Leon wrote:
lat,long,name or long,lat,name? and why do you prefer one over the 
other? (eg. less hassle, less clicks to import csv to common GIS 
softwares)
Just my opinion: when people talk about co-ordinates, they normally talk 
about Lat and Long (almost never Long and Lat), so they should probably 
be in that order! I'd say gpsbabel has it right, and your other software 
is swimming against the tide.


The advantage of XML formats as opposed to CSV, is that they specify 
that each point is either lat/lat or long/long so there is no 
ambiguity.


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Re: [talk-ph] Cebu City Jeepney Routes

[Jim Morgan]

On Friday, 13 September, 2013 10:29 AM, maning sambale wrote:

If you've been to Cebu City and like me, got confused with the jeepney
routes categorized as number and letters. Should I take 04C or 04B?
I was thinking about this for Manila. As a foreigner I have no idea 
where the Jeepneys go, except for a few around my house, and my language 
skills aren't too good either. Although I can say Para!


Anyway I was thinking of an initiative to put in all the jeepney routes. 
My reasoning was that this might be a bit unwieldy making it part of the 
OSM dataset, so I was thinking a data overlay might be the best way to 
go. This would mean of course that you could turn on and off various 
data overlays (jeepney, bus, train). Maybe even one day you could give a 
start and end point and get a number of options on how to travel.


Just thinking out loud. Maybe we could get some funding for this.

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Re: [talk-ph] Waterways in NCR and surrounding provinces

[Jim Morgan]

On Thursday, 12 September, 2013 09:31 AM, maning sambale wrote:

In some cases, we had to switch the way direction to follow the the
convention [0] that the direction of the way should be downstream
Hah, I'd never really thought of this before. I guess a lot of times I 
start tracing from the sea backwards inland, so I've probably got this 
wrong a few times.


It started me thinking though. If you were able to get the elevation 
data for the start point and end point of a waterway, you could probably 
work out the direction of flow from that, and apply it automagically.


So what about canals? :-)

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Re: [talk-ph] Yet another WebGL 3-D OSM map

[Jim Morgan]

On Wednesday, 04 September, 2013 08:36 AM, Ed Garcia wrote:
Hi.  My Firefox browser on Ubuntu does not support WebGL. Anything I 
need to do?  is it just a plug in or do I need to upgrade the whole 
system?
Working OK here on Ubuntu 12.04, Firefox 23.0. Contact me directly if 
you need any info on plugins etc.


It is pretty sluggish though.

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[talk-ph] Map Humour.

[Jim Morgan]

From the occasionally excellent Amazing Super Powers comic

http://www.amazingsuperpowers.com/2013/08/map/

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[talk-ph] Fun Maps

[Jim Morgan]

Not too serious, but some good ones in there ...

http://www.boredpanda.com/fun-maps-they-didnt-teach-you-in-school/

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[talk-ph] GeoGuessr

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Cool site. It randomly picks a location from Google Street View, and you have 
to guess where it is. 

http://geoguessr.com/

Beware, you may lose some time.

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Re: [talk-ph] Land area of the Philippines

[Jim Morgan]

tutubi wrote, On Thursday, 25 April, 2013 09:58 AM:
 land area may vary, depends whether it was measured during high tide or low 
 tide too

I was about to make the same joke! But then I did a quick back-of-an-envelope 
calculation and found out it wouldn't actually make that much difference:

Let's assume the Philippines is a rectangle, 300km x 1000km. And lets assume 
that the tide going from in to out exposes an average of 10m of extra 
beach. So now our rectangle is 300.02 x 1000.02, which is only an extra 26 km2 
of area. 

OK, so its obviously not the correct figure, but I think it gives something of 
the right magnitude. :-) 

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[talk-ph] Google Pirate Map

[Jim Morgan]

As part of April Fool's day, Google set up this pirate map rendering. 


https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=40.749338,-73.97644spn=0.120162,0.128231t=8z=13

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Re: [talk-ph] SotM 2013 will be in Birmingham, United Kingdom

[Jim Morgan]

Whoa, are you sure you guys want to go to Birmingham? ;-) 

But kidding aside, if we do actually manage to raise say, a couple of thousand 
dollars locally for mapping, wouldn't that money be better spent buying mapping 
equipment for use here, rather than sending someone to Birmingham? I'm 
thinking, off the top of my head:

 - Some sort of aerial photo rig for mapping provincial areas. Remote control 
plane, balloon etc. 
 - Buying imagery from imagery suppliers. Perhaps they'd entertain a discount 
for non-profits. 
 - Buying GIS data from the people hoarding it here. 
 - Lobbying government departments to help. 
 - More GPStoGo pool units.

And if that sort of approach catches on, then maybe we could use 
http://www.kickstarter.com/ to crowdsource the funding. For example. 

Jim

maning sambale wrote, On Monday, 18 February, 2013 11:08 AM:
 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hopefully then can provide scholarships so that people without the means to
 attend can come. :-)
 
 Just an idea, why not do our own fundraising to send 2-3 Pinoy OSMers
 to Birmingham?  I was able to attend SOTM in Denver and would like
 other people to experience it as well.
 Raising funds for this may be difficult to pull off, but, will never
 know unless we try? :)
 
 I'll ask around for possibilities.  Ideas welcome.
 
 

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[talk-ph] GPS accuracy advances

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Ongoing research in Spain

Spanish scientists develop more accurate sat-nav system

Researchers in Spain have developed a system they say can greatly improve the 
accuracy of car sat-navs.

It combines a conventional global positioning system (GPS) signal with those of 
other sensors - accelerometers and gyroscopes - to pinpoint a car's location to 
within 2m (6ft 6in).

It can be cheaply installed in any car and may eventually work on smartphones, 
the researchers say.

Such a system has the potential to help the burgeoning driverless car industry.

The system was jointly designed and developed by the Applied Artificial 
Intelligence Group and the Systems Intelligence Laboratory - both based at 
Carlos III University in Madrid (UC3M).

We have managed to improve the determination of a vehicle's position in 
critical cases by between 50 and 90%, said researcher David Martin.

According to the scientists, the margin of error of commercial GPS used in cars 
is about 15m in an open field, where the receiver has good visibility from the 
satellites.

However, in cities where the signal bounces off buildings and trees, the 
calculation of a vehicle's position can be off by more than 50m.

In certain cases, such as in tunnels, communication is lost completely.

At that point, the system reverts to essentially guessing the location. While 
this may be sufficient for in-car navigation systems, it would not be suitable 
for automated vehicles, which are currently being developed by the likes of 
Google.

Cars are becoming increasingly connected, said Prof David Bailey from the 
Coventry University Business school.

There is a lot of research into driverless cars and, for that, GPS needs to be 
as accurate as possible, he added.

The system developed in Madrid makes use of a unit comprised of three 
accelerometers and three gyroscopes, which keep track of the speed and 
direction of a vehicle at all times.

The data from these is combined with that from a conventional GPS unit to 
pinpoint a location of a car to within 2m in cities.

Using smartphones

The next step for the Spanish researchers is to develop a system that can work 
with smartphones.

Most are equipped with a range of sensors, including an accelerometer, a 
gyroscope, a magnetometer, GPS and cameras, in addition to wi-fi, Bluetooth and 
GSM communications.

We are now starting to work on the integration of this data fusion system into 
a mobile telephone, said researcher Enrique Marti.

It can integrate all of the measurements that come from its sensors in order 
to obtain the same result that we have now, but at an even much lower cost, 
since it is something that almost everyone can carry around in their pocket.








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[talk-ph] Public Transport Mapping Intiative

[Jim Morgan]

Just found this.

About Public Transport Terminals and Hubs Mapping

The Ateneo School of Government’s Inclusive Mobility Project is taking the 
initiative to help map public transport terminals and hubs in Metro Manila. We 
commonly found them in street corners, vacant lots, roadsides and in malls. 
However, most of them are unrecorded and unaccounted. This makes the 
information regarding the seamless public transport interconnectivity difficult 
to find.

https://mmterminals.crowdmap.com/

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Re: [talk-ph] Cebu health facilities

[Jim Morgan]

Hi Marion

I'm no expert either, but generally the OSM wiki is a good place to start: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital

It gives useful guidelines like Hospital is bigger than Clinic. Clinic is 
bigger than Doctor, and it also answers your query about emergency services:
amenity=clinic
name=Cebu Wellness Center
emergency=yes|no

You should be able to get most of the info from there. At the end of the day, 
OSM is a consensus of users, so if you feel strongly that other tags should be 
used, or don't fit your needs, then you can argue your case on the mailing 
lists. 

Jim 

Marion Singleton wrote, On Friday, 01 February, 2013 11:04 PM:
 Hello I am new to this group. I am currently personlly surveying health 
 facilities in the Cebu, Mandaue and Consolacion area of Cebu Province for my 
 own needs. I am a newbie at adding points to the database. I have come across 
 some of the following different types of places both public and private:
 
  1. Doctor offices
  2. Dental offices
  3. Optometrists
  4. Private clinics with and without emergency facilities
  5. Public clinics with and without emergency facilities
  6. Hospitals
  7. Treatment centers
  8. Birthing Centers
  9. Diagnostic test centers
 10. Health care training facilities and schools
 
 I am sure this is not an exhaustive list. What I need to know is how should 
 each be identified on the map. What codes should I use to enter each one. I 
 have only been using the simplest methods so far but I think it is important 
 to differentiate to help the user find what they need. I would like to 
 discuss this with someone very knowledgeable in this area before starting to 
 enter the data. Please contact me here.
 
 Marion Singleton aka Bossfish
 
 
 
 
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[talk-ph] History of Mapping Podcast

[Jim Morgan]

General mapping podcast about how maps alter our perceptions of the world. 


http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/audio/2012/oct/19/map-history-ptolemy-mercator-google

It might be of interest to some of you. 

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Re: [talk-ph] SOTM 2012 feedback

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Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Saturday, 15 September, 2012 08:49 AM:
 However, I am not actually aware of anyone in the OSMPH community who
 is experienced enough with running and maintaining a server here in
 the Philippines. The usual strategy I know is that people buy hosting
 services from data centers in located the United States.

If this proposal comes to anything, I can donate some of my time to setting up 
and running the server. I currently do this for several clients around the 
world. There must be how-tos on how to set up the synchronisation etc. 

But as the discussion unfolding below concludes, we clearly first need to 
identify the need for the server, and what functions it will take over. 
Personally I feel it could be a good source for downloading offline tiles with 
a zoom of 17 and 18, which are currently prohibited from the main servers. And 
tweaking the style to make it more local might be a good idea. 

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[talk-ph] Automatic Building Mapping.

[Jim Morgan]

Cool gadgets. Check out the video at the end of the piece.

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2012/automatic-building-mapping-0924.html 

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[talk-ph] Lowering Barrier to Entry

[Jim Morgan]

500k grant to help develop tools to make map editing easier for the masses. 


http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Foundation-grants-575-000-for-new-OpenStreetMap-tools-1715448.html

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[talk-ph] Rasa Surveying

[Jim Morgan]

I was on Cebupacific last week, and I saw an advert for Rasa Surveying in their 
magazine

http://www.ink-live.com/emagazines/smile/1189/september-2012/#/136/

They advertise a rather handy looking Unmanned Arial Vehicle, kitted out with 
camera and GPS. I've asked them for more details. Just for fun. I'll share them 
here if they look interesting. 

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Re: [talk-ph] iOS 6 using osm and tomtom?

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tutubi wrote, On Saturday, 15 September, 2012 10:42 AM: 
 i'm eagerly awaiting the release of iOS 6 to check the map feature reportedly 
 using tomtom and osm data.  
 i only need routing, offline maps, and 1s logging. hope they're all there

Did we have this conversation before? :-) This is all available on Android, 
although not in the same app as far as I can find out. You can get a nice cheap 
Android for about 9k these days (the Huawei G300 is getting good reviews), or 
4k if you really push it (Cherry Mobile). I use Trekbuddy for OSM data with 
offline maps and 1s logging. You can run a different app for routing. At the 
same time if you want!

Anyway, I don't see any reason to drop 40k on the latest Apple. Paying more for 
a phone than a computer has always seemed a little obscene to me. 

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[talk-ph] Old Maps, Online

[Jim Morgan]

Not surprisingly, found at 

http://www.oldmapsonline.org/

Just thought a few of you might like the site. There are a few from the 1800s 
featuring the Philippines.

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[talk-ph] TED Talk on GPS

[Jim Morgan]

Thought some of you GIS people might like this. 

http://www.ted.com/talks/todd_humphreys_how_to_fool_a_gps.html

I was unaware of the significance of May 2000. 

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[talk-ph] Map Exhibition.

[Jim Morgan]

Exhibit at the Metropolitan museum this month. I suspect some of the members of 
this group might have to restrain their natural impulse to correct mapping 
errors. ;-)

Jim

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Three Hundred Years of Philippine Maps 1598-1898
JUN. 27 - JUL. 31, 2012 @ Tall Galleries

A unique exhibition of 134 original Philippine Maps dating from the Spanish 
colonial period to early American time. The show features maps of Petrus 
Kaerius, J.N. Metellus, Wytfliet, Bertius and Fr. Pedro Murillo Velarde's 18th 
century Mapa de las Islas Filipinas.

Lectures will be held in relation to the cartography of provinces in the 
Philippines and the beauty and significance of mapping in contemporary art.

The exhibition is in celebration of Philippine-Spanish Friendship Day and in 
partnership with Philippine Map Collectors Society (PHIMCOS) and Embassy of 
Spain in the Philippines.


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Exploring the world of map-making can be overwhelming.
Join the art of cartography lecture series at the Met Museum.

Featuring:

JUNE 30
The Mapping of Philippine Provinces by Christian Perez

JULY 7
Power, Beauty and Knowledge in Philippine Antique Maps by Leo Garcia

JULY 14
From Night Stars to Rocky Shoals by John Silva

JULY 21
Biography of Fr. Pedro Murillo Velarde by Dr. Benito Legarda Jr.

JULY 28
Cartography in Art (Maps of the Artistic Imagination) by Florentina Colayco


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[talk-ph] Keepright Bug Fixing Video

[Jim Morgan]

Quite a nice intro to Keepright, plus a good tutorial on some of the advanced 
features of Potlach and how to fix errors. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MF4oJIHuQw

Also, you'll learn how to spot if a mapper lives in your neighbourhood! 

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[talk-ph] Cherry Mobile Andoids

[Jim Morgan]

Hi all,

Just noticed that Cherry Mobile is having a sale on their Android Range. Most 
of them pack GPS, so its an option if you want to get into mapping cheaply. 


http://www.cherrymobile.com.ph/sites/default/files/images/Poster_AndroidFlyer_12in_18in%281%29.jpg

I've had the Cosmo for about a year and its still going strong. Quite 
pleasantly surprised its lasted this long! They're never intended to be as fast 
or as flash as an iPhone, but at a tenth of the price, they seem like a good 
deal to me. 

I use the TrekBuddy application for recording tracks, and for navigation using 
pre-downloaded maps. 

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[talk-ph] Google Spreadsheet Mapper

[Jim Morgan]

Just found this and it looked useful, although clearly not an OSM thing. 

http://www.google.com/earth/outreach/tutorials/spreadsheet3.html

Is there an equivalent for OSM? Maybe it would be possible to use the same 
approach. Maybe with zoho docs instead of google? ;-)

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[talk-ph] Apple Developing 3D Mapping?

[Jim Morgan]

Possibly ... 


http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/05/12/android-payback-apple-to-cut-google-out-of-stunning-new-3d-maps-app-in-ios6/

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Re: [talk-ph] Apple Developing 3D Mapping?

[Jim Morgan]

And some irresistable mapping porn about how C3 technology works here. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNemPTHOKWg

Jim

Jim Morgan wrote, On Tuesday, 15 May, 2012 10:51 AM:
 Possibly ... 
 
   
 http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonykosner/2012/05/12/android-payback-apple-to-cut-google-out-of-stunning-new-3d-maps-app-in-ios6/
 
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Re: [talk-ph] Barangay Street Mapping in Cebu - Saturday May 5th and Sunday May 13th

[Jim Morgan]

This is great stuff Neil. Can you come and fix all the potholes in Manila too? 
:-)

Jim

Neil Taylor wrote, On Thursday, 03 May, 2012 08:01 PM:
 I am currently working on a project for Cebu City Government which is being 
 funded by the World Bank.  The aim of the project is to develop and implement 
 an Open311 (http://open311.org/) civic engagement software application that 
 will enable members of the public in two trial Barangay areas (Luz and Basak 
 San Nicolas) to submit fault reports about pot-holes in the street and 
 missing or broken street lights by SMS text message.  These SMS text reports 
 will be checked and verified by a team of people working at each Barangay 
 Hall before they are placed on a map base, using a web-based software tool 
 similar to www.fixmystreet.com http://www.fixmystreet.com, and forwarded to 
 the relevant local government departments (DEPW, DPWH, DPS).  If the trial is 
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[talk-ph] Google Maps and Balloon / Kite mapping

[Jim Morgan]

Thought this might be interesting to the group. 


http://google-latlong.blogspot.co.uk/2012/04/balloon-and-kite-imagery-in-google.html

They mention an open source mapping kit priced at USD 100. 

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[talk-ph] Atlas Trip Recorder

[Jim Morgan]

Just saw this after picking up a flyer in a hardware store
http://www.atlas.com.ph/

Funnily enough the website doesn't ever mention GPS, as that might give the 
game away I guess. :-)

However I did see in the testimonials section there are a few companies using 
the technology. I was wondering if they might turn out to be a repository of 
GPS data, that they might be persuaded to part with ... 

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Re: [talk-ph] Wiki Loves Monuments needs some mapping help

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Ed Garcia wrote, On Tuesday, 10 April, 2012 02:37 PM:
 Anyway, I have been locating many of these sites lately by using combined 
 panoramio, google earth, wikimapia.  Latest ones are some POIs in Cagayan 
 Valley.  Most often, I see some of these monuments tagged in panoramio photos 
 that are linked to GE. 

Google Maps (not Earth) has a feature where you can right click on any point on 
the map, and select What's Here?. That puts a large green arrow on the map. 
If you then click on the arrow it will pop up the co-ordinates (in decimal as 
well as degrees, minutes, seconds). Thought that was quite handy. And also, as 
you're placing the arrow yourself, then you're not stealing any info from the 
Google database, so I imagine you can use this information unrestricted. 

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[talk-ph] Sneaky House Numbering Scheme

[Jim Morgan]

Pretty nice idea actually ... 

Google is getting the public to identify house numbers and signs from Street 
View photos as part of its reCAPTCHA anti-spam technology - and feeding the 
data into its online mapping service.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/04/google_recaptcha_street_view/

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Re: [talk-ph] Crowdsourcing health facilities

[Jim Morgan]

Wayne Manuel wrote, On Saturday, 24 March, 2012 10:32 AM:
 What type of help could we provide them? They've asked me about the 
 extraction from Google Maps but for OSM, they didn't ask me.

Wouldn't there be some copyright issues with extracting from Google Maps? 
Whereas you can extract from OSM as long as you give the correct attribution. I 
think ...

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Re: [talk-ph] OSM Philippine data in the X-Plane flight simulator

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Eugene Alvin Villar wrote, On Monday, 19 March, 2012 12:34 AM: 
 (So lets all add lots more buildings!) :D

Guess we'd also need the height= tag ... 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:height

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Re: [talk-ph] foursquare checked-in on openstreetmap

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maning sambale wrote, On Thursday, 01 March, 2012 09:19 AM:
 http://blog.foursquare.com/2012/02/29/foursquare-is-joining-the-openstreetmap-movement-say-hi-to-pretty-new-maps/

Nice. Followed a link in that post, and found this tool which looks quite handy:

http://mapbox.com/tilemill/

I forgot who it was, but someone on this list was looking for a way to change 
the way tiles are rendered. Looks like this tool might help. 

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