Re: [Talk-transit] Vertical Levels (Layers) versus Altitude forstations

2009-09-04 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 Sep 2009, at 09:25, Christoph Boehme wrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: We would also need to consider slope, steps and lifts between layers and the situation where a lift only connects some layers but not all of them. A lift is currently represented as a single node

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal

2009-09-04 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 Sep 2009, at 10:28, Liz wrote: On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Mike Harris wrote: Peter Excellent summary - very well balanced. I would get particularly suspicious of motivation where there was no response to courteous attempts to get in touch to discuss. again general agreement Slight

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal

2009-09-04 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 Sep 2009, at 11:23, Peter Körner wrote: tagging@ would be a start. And vandalism@ I would prefer counter-vandalism@ I also support Richard's suggestion of tagging@ Personally I think the wiki is an under-supported resource and much load would be taken off talk if it was better

[Talk-GB] Stratford-upon-Avon mapping party 2? Anyone fancy going flying?

2009-09-04 Thread Peter Miller
a reasonable chance of good weather on at least one of those days. Should we offer this as a little way of saying thank you to someone who has done a lot of work for OSM to date? If so, the who??? Suggestions please. Regards, Peter Miller ITO World Ltd [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Sep 2009, at 10:05, Pieren wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Dave Stubbsosm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk wrote: As far as I know most of the tools used for reverting currently are also public -- the problem being, they're dangerous to use if you don't know what you're doing, not at

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools - work for copywriters!

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Sep 2009, at 14:34, Peter Körner wrote: Richard Weait schrieb: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:05 AM, Peter Körnerosm- li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Making 10 changesets of more than 10 features each over a period of at least 2 weeks without attracting reverts or complaints should be

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Sep 2009, at 14:04, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I agree that there should be a 'easy revert' for a single changeset. This might result in a 'clean' revert (where none of the features have been touched since),

[OSM-talk] Inconsistency in way history?

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
This page indicates that the last way says the last editor was Liam123 on 2 June 2009 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23180071 However, if one clicks the 'edit' button it goes to Potlatch and if one then clicks 'h' for history then it says the last editor is Mr Mark on 23 July

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools - work for copywriters!

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Sep 2009, at 21:18, SteveC wrote: On 3 Sep 2009, at 07:04, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Miller wrote:  Ok, so I have just had an RSS alert that Liam123 is back editing again today after a delay of 3 weeks. Probably because kids are back at school now. Look at his first changeset

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Sep 2009, at 22:17, Someoneelse wrote: Frederik Ramm wrote: ... But I really need people familiar with the region who tell me that they are reasonably sure that the edits are bogus. If it helps, I've just looked at a selection of 20 of the 60 ways edited in changeset 2308178 by

[Talk-GB] Liam123 back again - can we check if this is vandalism?

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
Liam123 is back, however some of his edits moving bus stops might be reasonable. This might be ok (moving bus stop to side of road) http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/469765466 Here he has added goods=yes to a railway line. Is this correct?

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 back again - can we check if this is vandalism?

2009-09-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Sep 2009, at 23:15, Mark Williams wrote: David Earl wrote: On 03/09/2009 14:53, Peter Miller wrote: This looks like messing with a street and yahoo photography shows it as going through a house. This appears to be straight forward vandalism http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal

2009-09-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Sep 2009, at 13:18, Bjarki Sigursveinsson wrote: I can confirm that the changes this user has made in Iceland are completely disruptive and illogical. The user has gone all around the country and either promoted or demoted roads in a seemingly random way without any regard to the

Re: [OSM-talk] RR8 - Possible International Vandal

2009-09-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Sep 2009, at 14:54, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Lester Caineles...@lsces.co.uk wrote: Bjarki Sigursveinsson wrote: I can confirm that the changes this user has made in Iceland are completely disruptive and illogical. The user has gone all around

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools

2009-09-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Sep 2009, at 20:30, Peter Körner wrote: Sybren A. Stüvel schrieb: On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 09:17:11PM +0200, Peter Körner wrote: A revert is changing a lot of things in one time, which would be much more time-consuming with e.g. josm. I see this (doing a lot of things with just a single

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools

2009-09-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Sep 2009, at 21:52, MP wrote: be added at the right side of every changeset line. One click might report succeed or conflict/failed, do it manually. Until this is possible I want to try to (or at least collect all necessary information to) write an external tool for this. Adding

Re: [OSM-talk] Brainstorming: Simple Revert-Tools

2009-09-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Sep 2009, at 22:35, Peter Körner wrote: Peter Miller schrieb: On 2 Sep 2009, at 21:52, MP wrote: Until this is possible I want to try to (or at least collect all necessary information to) write an external tool for this. Adding revert to main site could attract vandals (ok, let's just

[OSM-talk] Local Chapters Working Group Update

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Aug 2009, at 16:49, Nick Black wrote: Hello, snip *Next Meeting of the Local Chapters Group* The local chapters working group will meet at 6pm BST on Weds 30th September to discuss these issues and others. The agenda of the meeting is: * What is the process for creating

[Talk-GB] Is there an operating railway line to the east of Sleaford?

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
/Village]searchp=ids.srf [6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough-Lincoln_Line Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Is there an operating railway line to the east ofSleaford?

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Aug 2009, at 12:12, Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/28 Peter Childs pchi...@bcs.org: 2009/8/28 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: Anyone fancy a bit of detective work on a railway line? Question: Is there an operating railway line to the east of Sleaford in Linclonshire and how many

[Talk-GB] Sleaford Avoiding Line

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Aug 2009, at 15:41, Richard Fairhurst wrote: To confirm: double track, southbound freight-only, northbound out-of- use (there's track there but it's overgrown). I found a message from aforementioned train driver on some Usenet archive somewhere: Very useful thanks. So I guess I

Re: [Talk-GB] Sleaford Avoiding Line

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Aug 2009, at 16:11, Matt Williams wrote: 2009/8/28 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 28 Aug 2009, at 15:41, Richard Fairhurst wrote: To confirm: double track, southbound freight-only, northbound out- of- use (there's track there but it's overgrown). I found a message from

Re: [Talk-GB] Tenfoot

2009-08-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Aug 2009, at 20:15, Matt Williams wrote: 2009/8/28 Chris Hill chillly...@yahoo.co.uk: In many towns and cities in the UK there are small ways behind rows of houses. In my part of the world (Yorkshire) we know them as a tenfoot (they are traditionally 10 feet wide). I have not

Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Miller
On 27 Aug 2009, at 11:12, Tom Hughes wrote: On 27/08/09 11:05, Tom Hughes wrote: In fact I can't find any map which shows either the tunnel or the approach roads as the A102(M) - they all shown as the A102 for the whole length from the junction with the A12/A13 to the north to the

[Talk-GB] New Digital Master Map for Great Britian: Confidential Advice to Ministers, 2009 (and a bit of a rant)

2009-08-27 Thread Peter Miller
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Import#Rights_to_NaPTAN_data Regards, Peter Miller ITO World Ltd. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Uk Missing Major Roads.

2009-08-26 Thread Peter Miller
On 26 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Chris Hill wrote: The orange (maybe brownish) roads can be secondary, tertiary or unclassified. I've compared the NPE roads to some roads that I know well and they cover what I would say are secondary, tertiary or unclassified. Secondary have reference numbers.

Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?

2009-08-26 Thread Peter Miller
On 20 Aug 2009, at 13:21, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/17 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: I'll start the imports tomorrow. I think it'd be wise to spread them around the country so one group of people aren't entirely swamped with several counties. As such, I'll start with Hull,

Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?

2009-08-26 Thread Peter Miller
On 26 Aug 2009, at 18:46, Mark Williams wrote: Thomas Wood wrote: [] Regarding remaining counties, Essex is definitely a priority, we may as well just upload the remaining counties as and when we can. (Which'll probably be when the new dev server is up with a sane python environment)

Re: [Talk-transit] JOSM Plugin

2009-08-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Aug 2009, at 20:18, Péter Connell wrote: Wonder if we need some openjourneyplanner thing - obviously a massive task. ... but who owns bus timetables? The argument is raging as we speak This is a great blog post on the subject which shows how hard the agencies are being pushed

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Miller
On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting the same general information. Do the Scottish and Northern Irish counties generally extend to the low water mark too? Drawing from the NPE maps

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Miller
On 23 Aug 2009, at 15:52, Bogus Zaba wrote: Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting the same general information. Do the Scottish and Northern Irish counties

Re: [Talk-GB] District Boundaries - N Wales

2009-08-23 Thread Peter Miller
On 23 Aug 2009, at 15:50, Chris Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Aug 2009, at 12:03, Chris Hill wrote: Well I'm pleased that they agree with me, but I'm not the oracle! This is another source quoting the same general information. Do the Scottish and Northern Irish counties

[Talk-transit] Tools for viewing and dealing with the NaPTAN data...

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Miller
? They could be added as a new section on the main naptan page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-transit mailing list Talk-transit@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: NAPTAN update?

2009-08-20 Thread Peter Miller
On 20 Aug 2009, at 13:21, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/17 Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com: I'll start the imports tomorrow. I think it'd be wise to spread them around the country so one group of people aren't entirely swamped with several counties. As such, I'll start with Hull,

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert a changeset

2009-08-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 20:08, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Tue, 18 Aug 2009 20:48:03 +0300, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/8/18 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: On 18 Aug 2009, at 14:57, Teemu Koskinen wrote: Could somebody please revert this changeset: http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: [OSM-talk] copyright problem with datacopiedfrom a map

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 17 Aug 2009, at 19:13, SteveC wrote: On 17 Aug 2009, at 11:13, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/17 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com: You may wish to set up a Belgium equivalent for this page to act as a record of such reverts. As you can see we have been having some problems

Re: [OSM-talk] Local Chapters Meeting Minutes WAS Re: Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 09:17, Nick Black wrote: John, I said: so if you can't make it but would like to, please add your name to the wiki so we can have a second call at a better time. No-one is trying to exclude you - especially not the people who are trying set up local groups and make

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - miniature railway

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 17:47, Peter Childs wrote: 2009/8/16 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Sun, 16/8/09, Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote: I'd recommend synchronising this with wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miniature_railway A lot of work has been done there between

Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 14:08, Nick Whitelegg wrote: My main comment was that the proposal didn't 'sit' well with the government regional structures. I do have to make the comment though that the government regional structures are rather arbitrary and do not reflect real cultural regions.

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Merging Guidelines

2009-08-17 Thread Peter Miller
On 18 Aug 2009, at 01:07, Bryce McKinlay wrote: Thank you very much for your efforts on this, Thomas, and everyone else involved - I've been waiting for the London import for a while, and it's fantastic to see this data in OSM! +1 I have one bug to report: Is it possible that special

Re: [Talk-us] bike rail trail as built vs as proposed and imported

2009-08-12 Thread Peter Miller
the main transport modes. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport And here is the category for public transport:- http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Public_transport Regards, Peter Miller ITO World ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us

Re: [Talk-GB] Wales Boundaries (Wrexham Denbighshire)

2009-08-11 Thread Peter Miller
On 11 Aug 2009, at 07:43, Shaun McDonald wrote: On 11 Aug 2009, at 06:41, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Aug 2009, at 23:09, Bogus Zaba wrote: With Denbighshire however I made a new relation (192442) and am slowly adding various ways that will make up this boundary. Not sure however

[Talk-GB] Peer verification (was: Liam123 again)

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 8 Aug 2009, at 11:11, Simon Ward wrote: On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 01:11:02PM +0100, Nick Barnes wrote: To my mind, nobody ought to be able to edit live map data unless: 1 - They have uploaded n tracks, 2 - They have had m edits approved by a moderator 3 - They are vouched for by somebody

[Talk-GB] Progress on estimating coverage

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Miller
. One small suggestion - you might like to use a 'thermal' colour range; currently I am not able to guess which colour is associated with the highest coverage and the lowest etc. Feel free to use colours used by OSM Mapper in the 'thermal' range if that is useful. Regards, Peter Miller

[Talk-GB] Wales Boundaries (Wrexham Denbighshire)

2009-08-10 Thread Peter Miller
On 10 Aug 2009, at 23:09, Bogus Zaba wrote: I have been working on these two relations. Wrexham is finished and the entries on the WikiProject Wales are complete, because somebody already put them there - I just fixed the relation (137981) and some of its members. It is great that you

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Miller
On 7 Aug 2009, at 10:08, Ed Loach wrote: Thanks Roger, If they're PlusBus zones, then Clacton railway station lies outside the Clacton zone as it currently stands, and while Harwich International (formerly Harwich Parkeston Quay) is probably a boundary point for the Harwich zone (though

Re: [Talk-transit] Is 'Transit' and 'Public Transport' the samething?

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Miller
On 7 Aug 2009, at 17:07, Christoph Böhme wrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: Which leads to a question of terminology... Is 'transit' a synonym for 'public transport'? or not. If not then what is the difference? As a non-native speaker of english I find it easier

[Talk-GB] counter-vandalism tools

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Miller
This is an interesting category of tools and resources available for maintaining Wikipedia against vandalism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_counter-vandalism_tools Regards, Peter ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] 3 more changesets from Liam123 for reversion

2009-08-07 Thread Peter Miller
On 7 Aug 2009, at 13:32, Andy Allan wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:21 PM, David Earlda...@frankieandshadow.com wrote: Peter Miller wrote: 3 more changesets today from Liam123 for reversion. I have added them to the revert page and have copied this email the Andy. http

[Talk-transit] New 'Transit' page and proposed Stop Place model

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Miller
I have create a new top level page for 'transit' and redirected 'public transport' to that page. Take a look here and tell me what you think, and do of course make it better! http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Transit I am also proposing to write basic articles for each of the individual

Re: [Talk-transit] New 'Transit' page and proposed Stop Place model

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Miller
On 6 Aug 2009, at 14:07, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: snip b) splitting the pages down into smaller components - eg railways, bus stops, train services, train stations, etc. Whilst it's good to have an overall

[Talk-GB] 3 more changesets from Liam123 for reversion

2009-08-06 Thread Peter Miller
3 more changesets today from Liam123 for reversion. I have added them to the revert page and have copied this email the Andy. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GB_revert_request_log I will send him another message, not that this seems to help really. Thanks Andy, Regards, Peter

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 Aug 2009, at 23:37, Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi all, I'm still keen to try and nail this public transport service vs infrastructure issue. I have create a new wiki-page 'Public transport schema 2' based on Oxomoa's proposal on the main wiki based on the last edit made before the

Re: [Talk-transit] Route relations types

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 Aug 2009, at 13:05, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com wrote: Before anyone answers your question, please bear in mind that there is no clear definition of a “coach” ... and I have dealt with a feedback to traveline on this

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 Aug 2009, at 13:13, Richard Mann wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Cartinus carti...@xs4all.nl wrote: IMHO the solution is simple. Name it after what you are mapping. For vehicles: The route the cyclist follows is route=bicycle. The route bus 5 follows is route=bus. The route tram

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 Aug 2009, at 14:41, Richard Mann wrote: Yes Frederik could tidy things up, but it's best not to change things arbitrarily (ie substituting line for route), because it just makes it harder to remember what is correct. The lack of presets for relations in Potlatch makes it doubly

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 alert!

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 Aug 2009, at 12:30, David Earl wrote: David Earl wrote: David Earl wrote: liam123 has been active again this morning - the first changeset for a while: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/2043351 I have no idea whether this represents valid data or rubbish. It seems

Re: [Talk-GB] Liam123 alert!

2009-08-05 Thread Peter Miller
On 5 Aug 2009, at 14:28, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 12:59 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Can I suggest that you (David) immediately add this to the GB Revert Request log (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/ GB_revert_request_log) , send Liam123 asking him

Re: [Talk-transit] NaPTAN Import

2009-08-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 1 Aug 2009, at 22:51, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/8/1 Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net: Thomas Wood grand.edgemas...@gmail.com schrieb: I think all outstanding coding issues have now been dealt with. There's one minor tagging issue to address - should the source tag be on the data or

[Talk-gb-midanglia] NaPTAN import - add your area to the list and get loads of bus stops!

2009-07-29 Thread Peter Miller
the import on the NaPTAN page [2] or on talk- transit[3]. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Request_for_Import [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN [3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit Regards, Peter Miller

[Talk-GB] NaPTAN import - add your area to the list and get loads of bus stops!

2009-07-29 Thread Peter Miller
the import on the NaPTAN page [2] or on talk- transit[3]. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Request_for_Import [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN [3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit Regards, Peter Miller

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 27 Jul 2009, at 22:14, Christoph Böhme wrote: Hi Roger Slevin ro...@slevin.plus.com schrieb: Locality Classification was added as a possible nice to have to the version 2 schema but it has not been populated, and no guidance has been created to indicate how this field should be used

Re: [Talk-transit] Naptan import

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Jul 2009, at 18:41, Christoph Böhme wrote: o...@edwardbetts.com schrieb: Christoph Böhme christ...@b3e.net wrote: Many places have wikipedia entries (even villages). If we can manage to automatically look the entries up and extract the relevant information (population size) from the

[OSM-talk] Broken formatting of Wiki pages

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cambridgeshire Any ideas? Peter Miller ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[Talk-GB] UK Boundaries - update

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
Progress on English boundaries has been amazing recently. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_England . Wales and Scotland seem to need champions and are not so far advanced for some reason. What is really good is that we now have people using them for useful purposes (see Peter

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries - update

2009-07-28 Thread Peter Miller
On 28 Jul 2009, at 13:33, Chris Hill wrote: Why is this 'great'? What is the point of boundary=ceremonial? If you change a boundary=administrative to boundary=ceremonial what does this do except break existing renders and tools? If you *add* boundary=ceremonial then this is available

[Talk-GB] How are we doing admin boundaries and what does nnnnnn ba r j stand for ?

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Miller
On 27 Jul 2009, at 17:25, Bogus Zaba wrote: Sorry if this contains some really stupid questions, but i have poked around the mailing list and the wiki and not been able to answer them for myself. 1. Given that we are not allowed to use official OS data (many threads on this topic), how is

Re: [Talk-GB] How are we doing admin boundaries and what does nnnnnn ba r j stand for ?

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Miller
On 27 Jul 2009, at 21:03, Bogus Zaba wrote: Peter Miller wrote: On 27 Jul 2009, at 17:25, Bogus Zaba wrote: snip for me anyway. There seem to be problems with r and j at present for at least some boundaries. Boundaries are created using ways and relations. You can read about them

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-24 Thread Peter Miller
On 24 Jul 2009, at 00:48, Mark Williams wrote: Peter Miller wrote: On 22 Jul 2009, at 15:18, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: snip So for the future, if there's another changeset that needs sorting out, please consider

[Talk-transit] Change of settings for talk-transit

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Miller
Just to let you know that I have added Frankie Roberto as an admin for the list as per an earlier discussion. Thanks for helping out Frankie. I have also changed the setting for talk-transit so that replies go to the whole list by default which seemed to be what the majority who expressed

[Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Miller
I have create a wiki page for reversion requests for GB data and have added all Liam123s recent changesets to it with a reference to the discussions of the nature of his edits. I believe that this will be a suitable interface between mappers and the people who do the actual reversion

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Miller
On 22 Jul 2009, at 13:29, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I have create a wiki page for reversion requests for GB data and have added all Liam123s recent changesets to it with a reference to the discussions of the nature

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Miller
On 22 Jul 2009, at 15:18, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Without going through every edit in the changeset it will be hard to determine. If we do have to go through every changeset then we might as well revert them by

Re: [Talk-GB] New wiki page for GB reversion requests

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Miller
On 22 Jul 2009, at 15:18, Andy Allan wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Peter Millerpeter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Without going through every edit in the changeset it will be hard to determine. If we do have to go through every changeset then we might as well revert them by

[Talk-us] Updated: ITO image of 'a year of edits' for North America

2009-07-22 Thread Peter Miller
where we also have updated images and check out other parts of the world in the 'from time to time' set. Regards, Peter Miller ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:05, Alice Kaerast wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:00:25 +0100 (BST) Steve Hill st...@nexusuk.org wrote: If there is a user who (by general consensus) is making nonsense edits and is continuing to do so after having been

[Talk-GB] Protecting the work - Probation?

2009-07-21 Thread Peter Miller
On 21 Jul 2009, at 13:17, Nick Allen wrote: Hi, One persons edits have created much talk as we are all worried about damage to the work that has been put into the project, and rightly so. When I started editing over a year ago I was worried (rightly on occasion) that I was damaging rather

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Miller
. Do be aware that a vandal is very unlikely to sign the new license so at present it is important that we remove the edits rather than repair on top of edits. Regards, Peter Miller (If we had a revert button next to a changeset, and I agree with the cautious voices who said

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ABC Street Atlas

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Miller
On 16 Jul 2009, at 20:11, Ed Avis wrote: http://www.spatialknowledge.eu/ABCAtlas/openlayers.html is a scan of the London 'ABC Street Atlas' from 1933/34. It is suggested on the OSM wiki as a data source; is it judged okay to copy information such as street names and layout from

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ABC Street Atlas

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Miller
On 16 Jul 2009, at 20:11, Ed Avis wrote: http://www.spatialknowledge.eu/ABCAtlas/openlayers.html is a scan of the London 'ABC Street Atlas' from 1933/34. It is suggested on the OSM wiki as a data source; is it judged okay to copy information such as street names and layout from

[Talk-GB] Reverting all Liam123's edits

2009-07-20 Thread Peter Miller
I am proposing that we get all Liam123's edits removed from OSM. My reasoning is firstly many of his edits are clearly just plain wrong and are certainly breaking previously good maps. Secondly that he has failed to respond to a polite message asking him for an explanation. Thirdly, given

Re: [Talk-GB] Estimating coverage

2009-07-19 Thread Peter Miller
On 19 Jul 2009, at 11:54, Chris Hill wrote: Peter Reed wrote: Of the authorities I have managed to measure, the following all show more road mapped than the DfT believes exists: Having mapped every road in Hull (Kingston-upon-Hull since today is a Sunday), some are fairly new and may

Re: [Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Miller
On 16 Jul 2009, at 11:31, Chris Hill wrote: David Earl wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Since this is a Freedom of Information Act request, and they have refused to supply me the requested information I'll ask the Office of the Information Commissioner for a ruling. Not expecting much, but

[Talk-GB] RRe: The DfT Cycle journey planner / CycleStreets

2009-07-15 Thread Peter Miller
On 14 Jul 2009, at 20:04, Martin - CycleStreets wrote: Nice to meet you all at SOTM! Peter Miller wrote: OSM coverage of cycle demonstration towns is pretty good already and it would be truly weird for the Cambridgeshire County Council to pay for someone to survey Cambridge

Re: [Talk-GB] Municipal boundaries

2009-07-15 Thread Peter Miller
On 15 Jul 2009, at 14:13, Abigail Brady wrote: This is certainly worth pursuing. Unfortunately, the real problem comes in rural areas where, for example, boundaries are defined to be the paths of things like hedges that aren't there any more, previous courses of rivers, etc. There are

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: Municipal boundaries

2009-07-15 Thread Peter Miller
/Boundary_Committee_for_England Regards, Peter Miller Councils may indeed have the English written versions - it would be worth asking them I have had more success with the Crown estates who were very helpful, but once again their GIS system is based on licenced OS data and therefore

Re: [Talk-us] US Online Mapping Parties

2009-07-12 Thread Peter Miller
the world and learning from other places. Regards, Peter Miller (PeterIto) ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us ___ Talk-us mailing list

[Talk-GB] boundary for Wales?

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Miller
So.. where is the coastal boundary of Wales? Is it at the high-water mark, or somewhere further out. Any ideas? In order to get something on the map I have created a complete boundary for Wales using high-water mark and included islands as exclaves. Happy for evidence that I am wrong and

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: boundary for Wales?

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Miller
. Regards, Peter Cheers, Chris Peter Miller wrote: So.. where is the coastal boundary of Wales? Is it at the high-water mark, or somewhere further out. Any ideas? In order to get something on the map I have created a complete boundary for Wales using high-water mark and included islands

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Miller
On 6 Jul 2009, at 21:24, Melchior Moos wrote: Hi, 2009/7/6 Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com I've experimented with the section of the West Coast Mainline between B'ham New St and B'ham International: I've added a train (i.e service) relation with ref=WCML and also a railway (i.e

Re: [Talk-GB] [Spam] Re: The DfT Cycle journey planner

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Miller
from government has been from the Scottish Government's Sustainable Transport section http://www.cyclestreets.net/about/ Possibly they can provide more information. I will forward the thread to them. Regards, Peter Richard On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil

Re: [Talk-GB] The DfT Cycle journey planner

2009-07-07 Thread Peter Miller
funding from the Cycle Demonstration Towns project for our journey planner Regards, Peter Richard On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I notice that councils across England are being encouraged to contribute to the cost of collecting data

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-03 Thread Peter Miller
On 3 Jul 2009, at 00:11, Richard Weait wrote: On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 19:02 +0100, Peter Miller wrote: Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add the data to the map but I am not aware of anything

[OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Jul 2009, at 17:32, Steve Hill wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009, Hurricane McEwen wrote: I just went to visit openpistemap.org and I get a blank map. Anyone run in to the same issue? Errm.. yes, damn. :( Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenGolfMap? - was OpenPisteMap

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Jul 2009, at 21:19, si...@mungewell.org wrote: Any chance of opengolfmap? I am needing a map to show the interaction between an existing golf course and a proposed cycle route. I can add the data to the map but I am not aware of anything that will render it.

[Talk-GB] UK Boundaries progressing really well, however why is Hampshire, England not rendering?

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
There is loads of work going on around the country on the boundaries project which is great to see. Here are a list of all the main administrative boundaries (for England and Wales) and the status of those boundaries. Scotland is a blank canvas if anyone feels motivated to do the work:

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries progressing really well, however why is Hampshire, England not rendering?

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Jul 2009, at 13:29, Ed Loach wrote: However, Hampshire (England) is not rendering. I have looked at the data with various tools and can't see what is wrong. The best tool for finding errors in boundaries is this one, but it fails for Hamphire for some reason:-

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Boundaries progressing really well, however why is Hampshire, England not rendering?

2009-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:27, Ed Loach wrote: Ed: I notice you have tweeked the 'non-simple' way today. Do you think it is now simple? If not do you want to try and sort it. I checked the way quite a bit. It shares most of its nodes with a section of a beach area, but that shouldn't be an

[Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Railway route relations

2009-07-01 Thread Peter Miller
--- Cross posted from Talk West Midlands On 1 Jul 2009, at 19:39, Brian Prangle wrote: Hi everyone I've added a railway relation for the West Coast Mainline as it runs thoruh New Street - so far I've got as far from Rugby Junction to Sandwell Dudley station. I've named it as

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] NaPTAN and the new PTtagging schema

2009-06-26 Thread Peter Miller
On 26 Jun 2009, at 17:51, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Sent: 26 June 2009 4:41 PM To: Thomas Wood Cc: talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; talk-transit@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-transit] NaPTAN and the new PTtagging schema

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