Re: [Talk-transit] Railway route relations

2009-08-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
Couldn't you just use the network tag on the 3 tram route relations and merge the results to get this relations? It requires a bit more preprocessing to get the information that you are looking for, whilst making it easier for mappers and reducing the data size. Shaun On 4 Aug 2009, at

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

2009-08-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Aug 2009, at 06:40, John Smith wrote: Currently highway=unclassified is too ambiguous, and while there was a proposal to replace this with highway=minor this seems to have gone no where yet the same problem still exists. I'm proposing not to replace highway=unclassified but to

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

2009-08-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Aug 2009, at 20:59, Christiaan Welvaart wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Richard Mann wrote: I'd define a rural as a road which is (usually) maintained by a public body, and open to public access, but where only partial provision is made for vehicles travelling in opposite directions

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Shaun McDonald
Could you please give examples of usage on that page? In the main most chains, such as the Tesco supermarket have the tags shop=supermarket; name=Tesco, which I don't think is compatible with your idea of having an operator and name tag where you would put the name of the branch (for

Re: [OSM-talk] (no subject)

2009-08-04 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 4 Aug 2009, at 21:11, Jack Stringer wrote: I would name it name=Elmers End Tesco, operator=Tesco etc, So if someone wanted to bring up a list off all Tesco sites they just seach the operators, but if you were doing a search for the nearest Tesco then the name will supply you with the

Re: [OSM-talk] Nationnal websites

2009-08-03 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 3 Aug 2009, at 07:53, Vincent MEURISSE wrote: On Sunday 02 August 2009 23:42:13 Shaun McDonald wrote: http://openstreetmap.co.uk redirects to the main site. (as does .com) The goal is to create interlinks between country communities (like most of the actual websites do

Re: [OSM-talk] revert.pl

2009-08-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Aug 2009, at 23:26, Ulf Mehlig wrote: Replying to my own email ... I tried to revert the changesets again, via ssh from a server with much faster internet connection ... on second try revert.pl terminated without an error message now, but the ways of the respective changesets are

Re: [OSM-talk] Something Might be Broken

2009-07-30 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 31 Jul 2009, at 04:41, Karl Newman wrote: On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com wrote: Take a look at this boundary where a forest and national park meet: http://osm.org/go/TwUljNo-- Notice that the boundaries don't line up. This is because the national

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM talk - Stats on user churn - Slides?

2009-07-29 Thread Shaun McDonald
All the presentations and videos are linked from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2009 if they are available. (If anyone hasn't added theirs, please do so). Shaun On 29 Jul 2009, at 15:56, Florian Lohoff wrote: Hi, there was a talk on SotM which besides other

Re: [Talk-GB] Red Routes

2009-07-29 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 29 Jul 2009, at 16:26, Brian Prangle wrote: Finally decided to map red routes after avoiding it for over a year (red routes are sprouting up rapidly in South Birmingham despite fierce oppostion from local traders - they're no stopping routes which are rigidly enforced). There's not

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Thoughts on an enhanced GPX api

2009-07-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Jul 2009, at 12:15, Tom Hughes wrote: The start point in the trace table, which isn't very useful, could be replaced by a bounding box to allow bbox queries - that's something that I have been thinking about doing for a while. I thought Potlatch used it for the edit links. Shaun

Re: [OSM-talk] is_in and similar tags

2009-07-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Jul 2009, at 13:43, John Smith wrote: Is there a real need for is_in tags or have admin boundaries replaced the need? Admin boundaries are the new way of doing this. The is_in tag was the early way of trying to show a hierarchy of admin areas. Shaun smime.p7s Description:

Re: [OSM-talk] is_in and similar tags

2009-07-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Jul 2009, at 15:35, John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 28/7/09, andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com wrote: What if boundary is not defined but the hierarchy is defined, such as with post codes? Should people invent boundary polygons based on just what nodes/ways belong to the area? I

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-27 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 27 Jul 2009, at 04:43, John Smith wrote: --- On Sun, 26/7/09, Vikas Yadav vi...@thevikas.com wrote: btw, JOSM does not recognize turnstile while it had an icon for stile. Then file a trac ticket at http://josm.openstreetmap.de to get one added. there is no official turnstile tag

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-07-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
I think that you should use barrier=turnstile, otherwise data users will think they are http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stile Shaun On 26 Jul 2009, at 17:34, Vikas Yadav wrote: Exactly this: Full-height turnstiles in the same wikipedia page. Ones here are just a metre high without a roof. Ill

Re: [Talk-transit] [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Jul 2009, at 23:24, Richard Mann wrote: I've not exactly rushing to get to that stage, but I couldn't see any obvious way to edit the ordering of a relation. Could anyone give me any clues? You can change the ordering of the relation using JOSM's relation editor. You may need to

Re: [OSM-talk] i18n-rich areas on the map

2009-07-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Jul 2009, at 09:17, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 11:34 PM, 80n80n...@gmail.com wrote: ti...@home uses this technique of a basemap with no captions and a text layer for lowzoom tiles (z1 through z6) . Currently they are combined on the server to create a

Re: [Talk-GB] Roundabout, ways and relationship policies

2009-07-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Jul 2009, at 23:24, Richard Mann wrote: I've not exactly rushing to get to that stage, but I couldn't see any obvious way to edit the ordering of a relation. Could anyone give me any clues? You can change the ordering of the relation using JOSM's relation editor. You may need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Tests in the Antarctica?

2009-07-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
The production server is not to be used for testing data imports. Please use a test server. If you need data dumps to see how it renders, that can be organised. http://apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/ Shaun On 21 Jul 2009, at 22:06, Sam Vekemans wrote: Well, i'll be doing some canvec import

Re: [OSM-talk] Tests in the Antarctica?

2009-07-20 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 20 Jul 2009, at 14:10, Peter Childs wrote: 2009/7/20 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Does anyone know if these are real-world representations or just spam? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-66.662lon=50.799zoom=11layers=B000FTF cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
Bug should be separate from the real data. The bugs should stored in separate tables, or a separate server using the same/similar stack as the real data. Shaun On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:05, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Any reason why we don't just put the bugs in osm. They could be

Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM

2009-07-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 17 Jul 2009, at 16:00, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Shaun McDonald [mailto:sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk] wrote: Sent: 17 July 2009 2:30 PM To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: 'SteveC'; 'Frederik Ramm'; 'Talk Openstreetmap' Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] The future of bugs in OSM Bug

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.1

2009-07-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 Jul 2009, at 19:04, Stefan de Konink wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: Neither the page on openstreetphoto.org nor http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OpenStreetPhoto gives any detail about how us, the community can add photos to this

Re: [OSM-talk] Circular relation by user mapper_07

2009-07-15 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 15 Jul 2009, at 22:45, Chris Browet wrote: Hi, This user, in changeset 1728656, has added relation 20773 has a member of itself. Is this allowed, and if yes, what does it mean, or is it an error? Yes you can do it, though I don't have a good reason for doing such a thing. Shaun

Re: [OSM-talk] Vanishing buildings

2009-07-14 Thread Shaun McDonald
The data has gone. It looks like it was this changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/1790341 Shaun On 14 Jul 2009, at 07:49, Markus Lindholm wrote: Hi I just noticed that some buildings in central Stockholm has disappeared, among then the main railway station. Here's a link

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 14 Jul 2009, at 09:50, Ulf Lamping wrote: Tom Hughes schrieb: because in general terms it won't work - reverting will often need manual intervention to resolve conflicts. I've heard this argument many times before, but no prove that it is actually true. Why not do it the osm way,

Re: [OSM-talk] Undo request button for changesets

2009-07-14 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 14 Jul 2009, at 18:13, John Smith wrote: --- On Tue, 14/7/09, Chris Hunter chunter...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at the history for this stretch of I-75 near the TN/GA border, since I was unaware of the undo process, I ended up spending 6+ hours redrawing I-75 (admittedly the work

Re: [Talk-GB] Calling all Hammersmith and Fulham Mappers

2009-07-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
I would recommend that you come along to the next London Mapping Marathon event, as you'll find some people there who have been mapping in that area. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/Summer_2009_Mapping_Party_Marathon Shaun On 5 Jul 2009, at 14:45, Charles Yarnold wrote: Hello,

Re: [OSM-talk] Ensuring Cyclewyays/Footways are routable?

2009-07-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Jul 2009, at 00:54, si...@mungewell.org wrote: I had a little play with Cloudmade's routing stuff and it wasn't quite working for me.

Re: [Talk-transit] East Coast Main Line

2009-07-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
It's not until later this year until the route will come under the government arm. What about the trains on the East Coast Route that go to Glasgow (via Motherwell), Aberdeen, and Inverness (i.e. North/West of Edinburgh). Should those tails be added to the route too, or a separate

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
http://www.mchme.com/#openstreetmap looks like the software they've used. 1753 changesets in less than 20 minutes. Shaun On 24 Jun 2009, at 17:58, S Knox wrote: Does anyone know why Tim Proegler http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/timproegler/edits has made so many small edits under the

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
the program on the test server. It takes any KML, NMEA, GPX, etc file and uploads all the points in that file in a separate changeset as a node in the data, which is is basically useless. Shaun 2009/6/24 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: http://www.mchme.com/#openstreetmap looks like

Re: [OSM-talk] Thousands of small changesets by Tim Proegler

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
I also sent him a mail and have just received a response saying that he'll remove the feature until the problem is resolved. Shaun On 24 Jun 2009, at 19:59, Rolf Bode-Meyer wrote: On 2009-06-24 18:58, S Knox wrote: Does anyone know why Tim Proegler

Re: [OSM-talk] SOTM 08: Talks Panel debates

2009-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 25 Jun 2009, at 01:00, Michael Kugelmann wrote: SteveC schrieb: So does anyone know if the rest will be put up? BTW: I don't find any list of the Talks Panel debates of the SOTM08. For the SOTM07 the list is in the wiki, but not for 08. IIRC it was present on

Re: [OSM-talk] history in xml format

2009-06-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Jun 2009, at 20:51, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Bernhard zwischenbruggerb...@datenkueche.com wrote: Hi I was searching the api but couldn't find a call that gives me the data of: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changesets How can I get

Re: [OSM-talk] history in xml format

2009-06-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Jun 2009, at 21:32, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: hi There's no API that gives you OSM data on a per-changeset basis. You can only retrieve osmChange files which are all changes within a given timeframe (e.g. minutely, hourly, daily). Do you mean this:

Re: [OSM-talk] [english 93%] [tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - mtb:description

2009-06-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
8 votes in a community of 127,000, where about 10% have edited is a tiny proportion of people to say whether the tag is good or not. Has this tag been used before? How often? and by how many different people? Shaun On 18 Jun 2009, at 19:09, k...@vielevisels wrote: Hi, after the voting

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-17 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 17 Jun 2009, at 18:17, Joe Richards wrote: One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK. I checked it (from other random computers, not my laptop) when I was in Thailand and Australia and it

Re: [OSM-talk] Move the Map

2009-06-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 Jun 2009, at 19:38, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: One of the main annoyances that people tell me that they have with OSM is that whenever they visit the site, the map shows them just the UK. Only if they have a UK IP. Getting more specific than country level is usually unreliable.

Re: [OSM-talk] Traffic lights

2009-06-13 Thread Shaun McDonald
I just put the traffic lights on the nodes. Life is too short to spend time grouping them. There is too much Tiger fixup and unnamed, or completely missing roads to enter. If the junction is large, you'll probably have a longer than normal waiting time, thus it shouldn't be a problem if

Re: [OSM-talk] Crossings of a road

2009-06-12 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 12 Jun 2009, at 14:44, Ed Avis wrote: Here the major road is a dual carriageway with a fence in the middle, so pedestrians cannot cross: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.490971lon=-0.234075zoom=18layers=B000FTF There are subways which I have mapped as level=-1 paths crossing the

Re: [Talk-GB] Vandalism in Kent/London area

2009-06-12 Thread Shaun McDonald
You can view changesets in the data browser, by clicking more in the following list of edits: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/liam123/edits Shaun On 12 Jun 2009, at 10:42, Greg Stark wrote: How do you revert it? I don't see any button for that in the changeset viewer on Potlatch. And for

Re: [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 10 Jun 2009, at 03:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/6/9 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: I'm curious if bicycle boulevards would qualify as living streets, given that a living street would most closely describe a bicycle boulevard in OSM terms, though a bicycle boulevard might lack

Re: [Talk-ca] [OSM-talk] Bicycle boulevards

2009-06-10 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 10 Jun 2009, at 03:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/6/9 Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org: I'm curious if bicycle boulevards would qualify as living streets, given that a living street would most closely describe a bicycle boulevard in OSM terms, though a bicycle boulevard might lack

Re: [Talk-GB] Speed Limit - Trains Was: Re: maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Jun 2009, at 09:06, Peter Childs wrote: On a simular subject are there ways of Tagging 3rd Rail vs Overhead Power etc http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:electrified Oh and London Bridge is a mess, on 5 or 6 Layers. Needs major work, but is very difficult Is there a way of

Re: [Talk-GB] Speed Limit - Trains Was: Re: maxspeed field - what units should we use. etc

2009-06-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
What do you do when the centre tracks are the fast tracks and the outer 2 tracks are the slow stopping lines, like the line near me that runs from London Bridge to East Croydon via Forrest Hill. This is in contrast to some other stations such as those in North London, where you the 2 fast

Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-31 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 31 May 2009, at 15:11, Andrew M. Bishop wrote: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk writes: On 29 May 2009, at 20:23, Peter Miller wrote: On 29 May 2009, at 15:42, Shaun McDonald wrote: I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient version of the snooker ball

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

2009-05-30 Thread Shaun McDonald
Yay, that'd be a great idea. Shaun On 30 May 2009, at 15:53, SteveC wrote: Remember how awesome the wales mapping weekend was last year? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welsh_Mapping_Party_Weekend Remember the Isle of Wight mapping weekend 3 years ago? It was super awesome, we

Re: [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

2009-05-30 Thread Shaun McDonald
Yay, that'd be a great idea. Shaun On 30 May 2009, at 15:53, SteveC wrote: Remember how awesome the wales mapping weekend was last year? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Welsh_Mapping_Party_Weekend Remember the Isle of Wight mapping weekend 3 years ago? It was super awesome, we

Re: [Talk-GB] Question regarding mapping inaccuracies.

2009-05-29 Thread Shaun McDonald
I'm wondering if someone will be able to implement an efficient version of the snooker ball visualisation on http://www.cyclestreets.net/blog/2009/03/26/thats-a-really-odd-route/ Shaun On 29 May 2009, at 15:19, Chris Andrew wrote: Hi, all. It occurred to me whilst editing recently, that

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-25 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 May 2009, at 14:22, OJ W wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 11:19 AM, John McKerrell j...@mckerrell.net wrote: I thought people were sometimes using similar values to the landuse tags, i.e. building=commercial building=retail ? or office, apartments, mixed_use ... currently it looks

Re: [OSM-talk] JOSM max upload changeset size

2009-05-25 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 May 2009, at 20:02, Sam Vekemans wrote: Hi, I'm wondering what the max size per edit session that JOSM can handle is? Whats the standard rule? Every 10mins? Or will josm accept any size, it would just take longer? What is a happy back-end servers size, that doesnt bog it down?

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 1.0

2009-05-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 May 2009, at 09:57, Martijn van Exel wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 10:18, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Martijn van Exel wrote: Great work. It all seems somewhat snappier. Love the offline editing feature already. Glad you like it (and others, thanks for the kind

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 May 2009, at 17:33, Radomir Cernoch wrote: Ben Laenen píše v Čt 21. 05. 2009 v 17:54 +0200: So while it seems to be a polygon vs tags on ways discussion: I wonder what people have against using relations to combine all roads in one built-up area, or one maxspeed zone, or some other

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 May 2009, at 18:17, Ben Laenen wrote: On Thursday 21 May 2009, Mario Salvini wrote: Even every relevant road for _ONE_ city in one relation won't work, because the membercount of a relation is limited since API 0.6. This methode won't create any benefit. Well, apparently it isn't

Re: [OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
I use TrackMyJourney, which has OSM Maps, and you can use OSM based routing and search online, with live updating. I use TMJ for all my mapping at the moment. If you are happy if small amounts of data, you may want to look at GPSMid. See

Re: [OSM-talk] Which software for SonyEricsson phones?

2009-05-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
I should have also said that I use a Sony Ericsson K850i. The K750i will work, though it may run slowly when using the maps as well as the logging. Shaun On 21 May 2009, at 23:00, Shaun McDonald wrote: I use TrackMyJourney, which has OSM Maps, and you can use OSM based routing and search

Re: [Talk-GB] MK mapping party

2009-05-20 Thread Shaun McDonald
In true classic form, we seem to have forgotten to map the area around the venue. I did remember to put the venue on Sunday morning for a change. Shaun On 20 May 2009, at 21:17, OJ W wrote: So did we forget to map area 1? a square of restaurants with an unfinished cake...

Re: [OSM-talk] Reverting Changes....

2009-05-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 18 May 2009, at 15:45, David Earl wrote: On 18/05/2009 15:26, Andy Allan wrote: On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: In just spotted a pile of changes that someone made that seem to have done more harm than good:

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-05-14 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 14 May 2009, at 11:55, Ben Laenen wrote: On Thursday 14 May 2009, MP wrote: [..] And these situations are more common than you may think. Built-up areas are the most common where such a thing happens here as they're of course the largest kind of zonal restrictions, and each city will

Re: [OSM-talk] Live Data - all new Data in OSM

2009-05-12 Thread Shaun McDonald
Frederik, On 13 May 2009, at 01:01, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Tom Hughes wrote: It's a completely insane solution though. It we want to do it we should just do it properly in the database not fart around with stupid hacks in the rails code that break as soon as any updates are not

Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia Mobile Phone - GPS

2009-05-10 Thread Shaun McDonald
There is the following long list on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Software/Mobilephones To have a grid of phone and app, would produce a grid that is too large to be useful. The app that I use is TrackMyJourney (which has the ability to display of OSM data, and the option for

Re: [OSM-talk] RSS Feed for GPS traces

2009-05-07 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi, RSS feeds generally only show the most recent x articles/items rather than every single article/item. Shaun On 7 May 2009, at 16:58, Jan Torben Heuer wrote: Hi, is there a RSS feed for all traces? http://openstreetmap.org/traces/rss shows only the most recent entries and it does

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmisis Uk Extracting

2009-05-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
If this is planet-090421.osm.bz2 then it is a known problem. Please use planet-090429.osm.bz2 which should have that bug removed. Shaun On 1 May 2009, at 08:17, Peter Childs wrote: I'm trying to use Osmosis to extract the Uk data from the planet file, and ideally put it in a PostgreSQL

Re: [OSM-talk] Python API

2009-04-29 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 29 Apr 2009, at 17:00, Etienne Chové wrote: Dears, I wrote a python class to communicate with OSM API (read, write, update). For interested users, informations are here [1]. May I put sources on the dev server ? Wouldn't it be better to put them into SVN? Shaun

Re: [OSM-talk] 403 error getting data

2009-04-28 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 28 Apr 2009, at 17:40, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: William Gresham schrieb: I am trying to edit data in the eastern United States, but Potlatch will not load any of the ways (the farthest it will get are green landmarks), and attempts to load the data into JOSM return a 403 error. Is

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] map data acknowledgement?

2009-04-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 26 Apr 2009, at 13:33, graham wrote: Hi, I haven't been following this list closely before so I'm afraid this is likely to be a faq, though I couldn't find the answer on a quick search. I just tried an iphone application, my.tel. This includes a location finder with slippy map -

Re: [OSM-talk] Complex turn restrictions

2009-04-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 24 Apr 2009, at 15:01, Dirk-Lüder Kreie wrote: Aun Johnsen (via Webmail) schrieb: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:19:39 -0700, Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8ll=44.92934,-123.02527spn=0.000872,0.002414t=kz=19 For those who aren't familiar with why this

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2009-04-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
It's interesting to see that there is a moderator stating there have been quite a few comments on here about the availability of administrative boundaries. I wonder if they will get enough people saying the same thing to change their plans. Shaun On 23 Apr 2009, at 17:13, Richard

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn restrictions ambiguity

2009-04-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Apr 2009, at 22:56, andrzej zaborowski wrote: 2009/4/23 SteveC st...@asklater.com: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:32, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 22:25:36 +0300, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On 23 Apr 2009, at 12:17, Teemu Koskinen wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 21:34:05

Re: [OSM-talk] more changeset question

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
Bulk imports need to be split into smaller uploads. The build uploaders will need to get smarter. Shaun On 22 Apr 2009, at 11:19, maning sambale wrote: Thanks! seems reasonable for my regular editing session. What about bulk imports? On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:17 PM, Shaun McDonald sh

Re: [OSM-talk] more changeset question

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
In fact this is documented on the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Protocol_Version_0.6#New_Limits Shaun On 22 Apr 2009, at 11:33, maning sambale wrote: Alright. Thanks for the info On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 6:25 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: Bulk imports

Re: [OSM-talk] 500 Internal Server Error

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
This was due to a database restart to increase the number of connections to the database server. Should now be back up now. Shaun On 22 Apr 2009, at 11:47, Barnett, Phillip wrote: Getting problems accessing www.openstreetmap.org PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD

Re: [OSM-talk] more changeset question

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Apr 2009, at 11:41, Etienne Chové wrote: Shaun McDonald a écrit : On 22 Apr 2009, at 10:56, maning sambale wrote: limits to the number if node/way edits/deletion/addition per changeset There is a maximum of 50,000 nodes, ways or relations per changeset. There is a maximum

Re: [OSM-talk] [josm-dev] Commit message not empty

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Apr 2009, at 15:45, Ed Loach wrote: more people (I speculate) are leaving their Potlatch comments empty. Perhaps I should RTFM (or RTFW), but I couldn't see anywhere obvious to put a comment (and doing a quick wiki search am no clearer). Checking my post-upgrade edits you can tell

Re: [OSM-talk] Any chance of getting RSS/Atom feeds for those changeset/history pages?

2009-04-22 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 22 Apr 2009, at 21:08, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 22 de Abril de 2009, Frederik Ramm escribió: A proper monitoring function has to use the changeset bbox as an index only and then check whether the changeset *really* contains something in the area of interest to the

Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Apr 2009, at 11:18, Ed Avis wrote: Does this mean you can now set up Postgres on your PC, load a planet file, and get the same database layout as the main server? Yes, though it is still a different database layout compared to that used by Mapnik. For the time being you can use

Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Apr 2009, at 12:27, Steve Hill wrote: On Tue, 21 Apr 2009, Richard Fairhurst wrote: ...with API 0.6, Postgres and the new server. But everyone's uploading at once, so don't expect to do much serious editing for the time being. :) The deltas in

Re: [OSM-talk] Delay before the data is visible?

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Apr 2009, at 17:32, Ed Loach wrote: How large is the current delay before uploaded data became visible? My question is slightly different. I uploaded two changesets successfully earlier from JOSM (the third took over an hour so I clicked Abort and ended up losing my edits, so lucky

Re: [OSM-talk] We're back

2009-04-21 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 21 Apr 2009, at 18:32, Nop wrote: Hi! I noted that in the OSM inbox, all old messages are truncated to about the same length. I guess this is a result of transferring them. Are there any plans to restore them? This problem was found and sorted in the past few hours. Can you please

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] using openstreetmap

2009-04-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 17 Apr 2009, at 00:32, Mohamad Ali wrote: Mohamad, right now we don't have enough coverage in Australia for you to be using OSM for tracking purposes. But do you have tracks and other data that could be contributed? Liz Hi Liz Do you mean by ' don't have enough coverage in

Re: [OSM-talk] suggested website to upload a temporary cycling route event over OSM streetdata

2009-04-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 11 Apr 2009, at 06:49, Maning Sambale wrote: Hi, I want to create an interactive webmap for an upcoming cycling event in the Philippines. I can prepare a gpx file for the route. Now I want it over OSM data. Are there any site that provides this service (other than rolling my

Re: [OSM-talk] suggested website to upload a temporary cycling route event over OSM streetdata

2009-04-11 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 11 Apr 2009, at 11:29, Thomas Wood wrote: 2009/4/11 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: [..] OpenLayers can in fact read the GPX itself. Take a look at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers_Track_example I've just fleshed up this page a bit, and fixed it :) When I searched

Re: [Talk-GB] Yahoo coverage map

2009-04-05 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 5 Apr 2009, at 09:24, Steve Chilton wrote: [...] Also good that mapping parties are starting to be arranged for these places (M Keynes and Sunderland already - Grimsby anyone? [zoom in on mapnik layer for full effect]). Are you setting a Grimsby mapping party up? Shaun

Re: [OSM-talk] UKUUG : Suggestions

2009-03-31 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 31 Mar 2009, at 15:40, Ciarán Mooney wrote: Hi, I've been asked to help coordinate an OpenStreetMap track at the UKUUG Summer conference (http://www.ukuug.org/events/summer2009/). UKUUG is (in my opinion) a hard core techie conference of sys-admins and computer scientists. I had one of

Re: [OSM-talk] more OSM coming soon

2009-03-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
This is the weekly re-import of the data, when the render daemon is stopped for the duration. Shaun On 26 Mar 2009, at 11:45, Chris Hill wrote: I've been getting a lot of tiles with the 'more OSM coming soon' message on Mapnik, both yesterday and today at various zoom levels. The

Re: [Talk-transit] Need information about route planners

2009-03-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Mar 2009, at 18:13, Xayide p wrote: Hello! I am new in this mailing list. I am developping a research about existing route planners. I have recently read about pyRoute, PHPRoute, OpenRouteService, YOURS, etc. However, I have some doubts that I hope somebody could solve. -

Re: [Talk-GB] Route planner using UK OSM data

2009-03-23 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 23 Mar 2009, at 19:14, Andrew M. Bishop wrote: a...@gedanken.demon.co.uk (Andrew M. Bishop) writes: I decided that what would be fun to implement is a routing algorithm that can find the best (shortest or quickest) route between any two OSM highway nodes. I know that there are other

Re: [OSM-talk] Run tilesAtHome client and only accept requests for a small bbox. Possible?

2009-03-19 Thread Shaun McDonald
Alternatively use the minutely tile server, which highlights unnamed roads and pois with about a 10 minute lag. http://matt.sandbox.cloudmade.com/ Shaun On 19 Mar 2009, at 20:45, Yann Coupin wrote: Last I heard it was hourly, and it didn't include the maximum zoom level which can't be

Re: [Talk-GB] Clarifying tagging for footway/cycleway etc

2009-03-19 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 19 Mar 2009, at 16:32, Ed Loach wrote: highway=path has no such assumptions. I'm not sure that any of the highway= values have assumed permissions. If you tag something as a footway in JOSM it defaults to adding both highway=footway and foot=yes (or at least I think it did in a recent

Re: [OSM-talk] Alternatives to wikipedia?

2009-03-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi Lester, You could take a look at includipedia, which is basically a fork of the wikipedia to become an inclusive version of the wikipedia. Shaun On 18 Mar 2009, at 08:53, Lester Caine wrote: While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be applauded, many of us are no

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS track upload working?

2009-03-18 Thread Shaun McDonald
What is the size of the track that you are trying to upload? Shaun On 18 Mar 2009, at 13:58, Ed Avis wrote: When I try to upload a GPS track using http://openstreetmap.org/traces/mine , it takes a while and then gives a blank page. The track does not appear in the list (even as

Re: [OSM-talk] Call for Papers for SOTM09 is now open

2009-03-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
You don't need to have a PayPal account. Once you have entered your order details, click Checkout with PayPal then under Don't have a PayPal account? click Continue and you will be able to pay using the payment methods available in your country, such as credit card. Shaun On 16 Mar 2009,

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-16 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 16 Mar 2009, at 20:40, Russ Nelson wrote: On Mar 16, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Andy Allan wrote: No he's not, and plenty of other people are in agreement here. It's a question of the point of having a community in OSM (vs a large collection of uneditable datasets), and you're arguing about

Re: [OSM-talk] Tim Berners-Lee Linked Data talk

2009-03-13 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 13 Mar 2009, at 17:02, Mike Collinson wrote: I'm not sure if this has on-line video has been mentioned yet on the list: Tim Berners-Lee: The next Web of open, linked data http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/ tim_berners_lee_on_the_next_web.html A relaxing antithesis to the current

Re: [OSM-talk] Add 'Keep right!' to the list of map links in the 'place' template

2009-03-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Mar 2009, at 20:51, Harald Kleiner wrote: Hi! Done (anyone can do this, it's a wiki). I think it's a potentially useful tool, even if it does use the deprecated phrase deprecated for perfectly reasonable tags like abutters=retail (how else do you tag shopfronts in an otherwise

Re: [OSM-talk] One billion tags

2009-03-01 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 1 Mar 2009, at 11:21, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: Jochen Topf jochen at remote.org writes: The OSM database now contains over 1 billion tags on nodes, ways and relations together. Congratulations all around! Jochen Big number really. I guess it is the American billion and not the

Re: [Talk-transit] Modelling complex stations

2009-02-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 26 Feb 2009, at 10:45, Frankie Roberto wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: I'm also going to have to use the relation method for a few trams near me, as the roads are set up so that one side of the road is tram-only

Re: [Talk-transit] Modelling complex stations

2009-02-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 26 Feb 2009, at 10:51, Peter J Stoner wrote: In message 1350f7a40902260245l31fbfe88jc05af7faef79b...@mail.gmail.co m Frankie Roberto fran...@frankieroberto.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.comwrote: I do think we need to spend a

Re: [Talk-transit] [Spam] Re: Modelling complex stations

2009-02-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 26 Feb 2009, at 12:04, Peter Miller wrote: We could model the whole platform as an area with two additional ways at either side of the area polygon to add platform-side specific information. The IFOPT standard appears to define polygons for what they call Quays (called platforms in

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