Re: [OSM-talk] Internet cable map

2011-10-17 Thread SteveC
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.12/ffglass.html On 10/17/2011 10:40 AM, yvecai wrote: As far as I know, submarine data cables are highly strategic. You can see on the map linked they are only few of them but carrying 99% of the information between continents. I am certain it would be

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

2011-10-12 Thread SteveC
Well done all, good luck and looking forward to seeing what you accomplish! :-) On 10/12/2011 11:32 AM, Michal Migurski wrote: Hey, cool! Thanks everyone. I'm excited to get started with Martijn, Randy, Jim, and Richard. According to the wiki page there is a monthly chapter meeting

Re: [Talk-us] US local chapter board election results

2011-10-12 Thread SteveC
I'd urge you guys to think about /community/ as well as /technology/. Import some Weait's or something. Steve On 10/12/2011 12:03 PM, Michal Migurski wrote: Hand off agenda is a great idea. My computing habits mean that IRC is probably unrealistic for me. As far as goals for this year, I

Re: [Talk-us] OSM US Chapter elections and

2011-09-15 Thread SteveC
On 9/15/2011 11:56 AM, Jim McAndrew wrote: There has been some informal talk about when the elections are coming up. I think with SOTM this year, things have been more focused on that than the elections. SOTM was largely organised by OSMF and the working group with some funds channeled

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread SteveC
, Chris Fleming wrote: On 08/09/2011 00:20, SteveC wrote: There are a bunch of people asking things on twitter about OSM that we miss. Or people saying nice things that we should be retweeting. I'm looking for a solution. Mozilla has this: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/army-of-awesome and I'm

Re: [OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-08 Thread SteveC
On 9/8/2011 11:30 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 09/08/2011 05:20 PM, SteveC wrote: * Chicken and egg. No OSM answers supplied today - so why would there be lots of questions? +1 to Mikel: Let's answer questions by pointing people to our existing support infrastructure; not by trying

Re: [OSM-talk] Pre SOTM gathering

2011-09-08 Thread SteveC
blake street sports/dive bar for the NFL is where many are headed On 9/8/2011 3:40 PM, Gregory Arenius wrote: Are there any pre-SOTM gatherings going on this evening? Or failing that can anybody recommend a brewery to get one going at? Cheers, Greg

[OSM-talk] twitter handling

2011-09-07 Thread SteveC
There are a bunch of people asking things on twitter about OSM that we miss. Or people saying nice things that we should be retweeting. I'm looking for a solution. Mozilla has this: http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/army-of-awesome and I'm in touch with them to see if the src is available.

Re: [Talk-ca] BC Open Data License compatibility

2011-09-07 Thread SteveC
On 9/4/2011 6:51 PM, john whelan wrote: The issue with using data like this with OSM is when you contribute it under the new contribution terms you accept that OSM can change the license at a later date. Practically speaking it makes it impossible to respect any other license so currently

[OSM-talk] featured image

2011-09-06 Thread SteveC
Very funny - it's my heatmap, right? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How to start to remove non-CT compliant data..

2011-08-31 Thread SteveC
things have changed since then, might be worth revisiting On 8/31/2011 5:48 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Ed Avis wrote: Why not do what Wikipedia did and work together with the licence authors (in this case Creative Commons and Open Data Commons) to provide an automatic upgrade clause? Then

Re: [Talk-us] Mapping Party SLC

2011-08-27 Thread SteveC
Would love to come if I can find a cheap flight, let us know when you pick a date. On 8/27/2011 10:28 AM, Martijn van Exel wrote: Hi all, I want to organize a mapping party here in Salt Lake City. Are there any Salt Lake locals on this list? The wiki page[1] is sparse on social happenings

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Refusing CT but declaring contributions as PD

2011-08-24 Thread SteveC
On 8/24/2011 8:56 AM, Simon Poole wrote: But probably the buck would stop with the OSMF. Distributing data just because somebody on the web said it was PD has a high likelihood of being considered negligent. You need to search around for safe harbor provisions. Steve Simon Am 24.08.2011

Re: [OSM-talk] A happy birthday OpenStreetMap song from Nagoya Japan

2011-08-22 Thread SteveC
On 8/20/2011 9:57 PM, Shu Higashi wrote: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/16768642/highlight/195864 Not all the members are OSMers though ;-) Shu Higashi ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk that

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF elections

2011-08-15 Thread SteveC
I would encourage everyone to have a think about running for the board and look to what you can contribute. Be aware when thinking about it that we have a lot of work to do and meet frequently. That might impact your work and social life, it's not a ceremonial role, just ask Henk :-) The

Re: [talk-au] ATTN Steve Coast st...@asklater.com RE Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
Don't know how I can reply to someone who explicitly declares they don't want to change their mind or debate. In amongst the vitriol is perhaps a nugget that's worth responding to, this idea that somehow everyone on talk-au is 80n's puppet, is of course absurd. Unless you prove this isn't just

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:14, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: It's been pointed out that I'm not replying to hundreds of messages from John Smith, Anthony and friends. I don't see them as they're automatically deleted. I find life is better without

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
Sam Underlaying your attacks is the notion that I dismiss people who disagree with me, or that I can't understand different points of view. I find that strange given my rational responses to several disagreements on this list and outlaying where I feel misunderstandings have come from. I have

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 2:57, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: Steve Coast st...@asklater.com wrote: We've gone to insanely long lengths to make that the case, including getting clarifications from Ordnance Survey, Nearmap and many others. As far as I'm aware there are no remaining issues as

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:10, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Sam Underlaying your attacks is the notion that I dismiss people who disagree with me, or that I can't understand different points of view. I find that strange given my rational responses

Re: [talk-au] missing messages

2011-07-08 Thread SteveC
On Jul 8, 2011, at 3:11, Sam Couter s...@couter.id.au wrote: SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: As it happens however, my view that John smith and others are trolls is widely held. And unless you have anything to discuss other than you believing what I write to be bullshit I'm afraid you

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
This reads like you disagree with taxation or death. I do too, but there's not much I can do about it. The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at and now it's down to people holding out because of a comma in the wrong place or a moral objection to various aspects of intellectual

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
...@sunsetutopia.com wrote: On 8 July 2011 13:26, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: The vast majority of people are happy with where we are at From what I've read on ML posts, and from what was reported about the last SotM meeting (I wasn't there), the vast majority of people don't care and would be happy

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
What you say mike is mostly reasonable apart from the control bit. It's a democratically elected nonprofit, so it's hard to cast that as a dictatorship. Steve stevecoast.com On Jul 7, 2011, at 20:47, Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Chris

Re: [talk-au] Active Australian OSM contributors in light of CT/license changes

2011-07-07 Thread SteveC
Actually, the license process has been known about for a long, long time so it's not this new turnaround you cast it as. In addition, everyone else (bing, ordnance survey...) has worked with us very reasonably. In fact it's hard to say near map have been unreasonable, just that they were not

Re: [OSM-talk] License/CT issues: Let's not punish the world's disadvantaged, pls.

2011-06-22 Thread SteveC
How will fosm (assuming it reaches the stage of being functional) continue to sync with OSM when the licenses are incompatible? Steve On Jun 22, 2011, at 11:18 AM, 80n wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com wrote: As I suggest in the

Re: [Talk-us] Appearing Sign

2011-06-22 Thread SteveC
the sign. The sign has the magnifying glass over map image and: Open Street Map www.openstreetmap.org The Free Wiki World Map On 6/22/2011 11:33 AM, SteveC wrote: Okay. We are a 400,000 strong volunteer community, do you have any other clues to go on? What does the sign say? Who was it from

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread SteveC
Tim Chris is trying to gently point out to you, as I was, that you're the one who's sucked up the most LWG time lately and thus making your suggestions on how they sound their time is a bit odd. Ignoring the point isn't helping. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:25, TimSC

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-20 Thread SteveC
writes: The Troll word is used so often around in this community that it's hard to speak about courtesy. That's because SteveC uses it on people who don't agree with him. Can you point to an example where I call someone a troll who was not characterized by the wikipedia definition? http

Re: [OSM-talk] Pitiful proceedings - as usual

2011-06-20 Thread SteveC
Tim An ad hominem attack would be something where you complained about what the LWG spent it's time on and I replied with a comment about your mother. Instead, I replied pointing out that you are in fact the one using most of their time recently. That would be called a rebuttal or perhaps a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-16 Thread SteveC
So those guys put out a legal statement and an employee even gave you his interpretation on this list, which you can cite in court if you want. I think you're pretty solid and it feels like people are just looking for problems no matter what is done or said. :-( Steve stevecoast.com On Jun

Re: [talk-au] [OSM-legal-talk] Statement from nearmap.com regarding submission of derived works from PhotoMaps to OpenStreetMap

2011-06-16 Thread SteveC
So those guys put out a legal statement and an employee even gave you his interpretation on this list, which you can cite in court if you want. I think you're pretty solid and it feels like people are just looking for problems no matter what is done or said. :-( Steve stevecoast.com On Jun

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-13 Thread SteveC
Thats a kind of odd set of statements given... the random polls you're showing around...? Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 13, 2011, at 13:53, TimSC mappingli...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote: On 13/06/11 12:30, Serge Wroclawski wrote: That vote took place three times. It was done first by the

Re: [Talk-GB] Landuse polygons created by TimSC: delete them?

2011-06-13 Thread SteveC
I think the original email makes more sense as a discussion point if instead of being about deleting data it's more about getting started early on the problem of re-surveying data which might be removed. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 12, 2011, at 18:16, Adam Hoyle adam.li...@dotankstudios.com

Re: [Talk-ca] walking papers website having trouble??

2011-06-11 Thread SteveC
Mike? Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 11, 2011, at 13:27, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: I have been waiting 17 hours for a map to generate at walking-papers.org. Is anybody aware of problems?? http://walking-papers.org/print.php?id=qztkwgs3 Bernie.

[Talk-ca] Fwd: walking papers website having trouble??

2011-06-11 Thread SteveC
Steve stevecoast.com Begin forwarded message: From: Michal Migurski m...@teczno.com Date: June 11, 2011 18:41:41 GMT+01:00 To: SteveC st...@asklater.com Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] walking papers website having trouble?? It's been a long week so I've had to ignore WP for a few days - I

Re: [OSM-talk] Join the OSMF !

2011-06-10 Thread SteveC
On Jun 11, 2011, at 1:02, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all - I know of no form of democracy that distinguishes between grudging acceptance or evangelical zeal. Dermot, I would quite like to take my data and start my own PD / CC0 project. What is stopping you? So by

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-10 Thread SteveC
Or as close to it as possible, yes. I don't care what the result is, it's just too fashionable to automatically believe the imports are bad thing. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:05, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 06/09/11 18:01, SteveC wrote: I know it's

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-10 Thread SteveC
There are tons of things. People drive in the US so pubs are difficult to arrange things around. Mapping in the US is boring because of the big gridded cities. I map much less in the US than the UK. It's not just that there are roads there already, which by the way is a good thing because I

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis New Data and bot

2011-06-09 Thread SteveC
On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:42, Jerry Clough : SK53 on OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Generally, I am still opposed to a bot. There is a substantial body of evidence that automated imports damage the ability to recruit and nuture new mappers. Could you cite the evidence? Is it just hand waving

Re: [Talk-GB] Are you coming to London on Sunday?

2011-06-08 Thread SteveC
:-( sorry Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 8, 2011, at 2:14, Chris Fleming m...@chrisfleming.org wrote: On 07/06/11 19:18, Steve Coast wrote: or saturday night http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Board_Meeting_June_2011 Would be awesome to see you there Steve With a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Phase 4 and what it means

2011-06-05 Thread SteveC
Sadly I agree. Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 5, 2011, at 4:19, Nick Hocking nick.hock...@gmail.com wrote: The problem I have is a bit different. Someone (who has actively declined the CT) has been using nearmap to trace in some roads under construction in the Canberra area. Some of these

Re: [OSM-talk] early OSM webmap request

2011-06-04 Thread SteveC
Try image search? Steve stevecoast.com On Jun 4, 2011, at 16:31, Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: For my SOTMEU presentation I need an image of the OSM webmap prior to mapnik, the old landsat +white lines version. I have looked on 'history' and 'featured images' on wiki but no

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread SteveC
are changed on the front page (some still are old versions). There is two quotes I want to cite from the log: 1. (12:38:15 PM) SteveC: TomH: how is rails 3 coming BTW? (12:39:02 PM) TomH: oh it mostly works, but there's an issue with our multi-part primary keys that is giving me grief (12

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread SteveC
Mikel and SWG don't have to take all this, I did it so flame me Jochen. Steve stevecoast.com On Apr 30, 2011, at 9:04, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote: So tired of the bad attitude in OSM. Perhaps you're just trying to be funny Jochen, but really, this makes me want to quit trying

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-04-30 Thread SteveC
stevecoast.com On Apr 30, 2011, at 9:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/4/30 SteveC st...@asklater.com: You will also find discussion of this list in that meeting. If I had posted the new logo idea here before doing anything there would have been a gigantic discussion

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011-04-19 Thread SteveC
it would make more entertaining reading that your recent posts. SteveC said he'd let me pilot his private jet if I say yes. Bye Frederik ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk Steve

Re: [OSM-talk] License graph

2011-04-19 Thread SteveC
Google while mapping OSM data and he was very badly treated... ;) or ;(( Gert -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: SteveC [mailto:st...@asklater.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 19 april 2011 21:18 Aan: Frederik Ramm CC: talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] License graph It's true

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Contributor Terms vs OS OpenData Licence

2011-04-18 Thread SteveC
On Apr 18, 2011, at 2:42 PM, TimSC wrote: On 18/04/11 22:23, Frederik Ramm wrote: I'm an outsider to all this OS business but if you guys in the UK should really have been uploading data that requires attributing OS in every downstream product then we have a problem which has nothing

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-02-12 Thread SteveC
I want to go to that mapping party. Steve stevecoast.com On Jan 21, 2011, at 17:59, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@thenilgiris.com wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-21 at 19:30 +, Steve Doerr wrote: Nothing official, but it would be very unusual for anybody to call something that wasn't surfaced a road.

Re: [OSM-talk] It's fun while it lasts

2011-02-11 Thread SteveC
Don't count your chickens until they are hatched. Steve stevecoast.com On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:44, Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:40, Andrew Ayre a...@britishideas.com wrote: What is the point of spreading unfounded FUD? OSM doesn't need Microsoft to

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-02-03 Thread SteveC
That's an interesting idea, I wonder what else lurks on the web, like postcodes for example? Steve On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Nic Roets nro...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, Another thing that Bing can help us with is determining address ranges of roads. For example, when you spider the web

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-02-03 Thread SteveC
Thanks for the feedback. Eyal and jm any chance of confidence? Steve On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:10 PM, François Van Der Biest francois.vanderbi...@camptocamp.com wrote: Thanks for this new service. I felt quite frustrated when I saw the silverlight stuff warning, so I decided to create a simple

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-02-03 Thread SteveC
Maybe put the magicshop version number in the creator? Steve On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:12 PM, John-Michael Wiley jmwi...@microsoft.com wrote: I made the changes, checked in the code and published them to the staging servers. If someone else wants to take a look at the output and let me know

[OSM-talk] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread SteveC
GPS might not work; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/20/unavailabe_gps_warning/ Steve stevecoast.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[Talk-us] Watch out if mapping in Florida, Georgia...

2011-01-21 Thread SteveC
GPS might not work; http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/20/unavailabe_gps_warning/ Steve stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us

Re: [OSM-talk] What phone survey results

2011-01-08 Thread SteveC
On Jan 8, 2011, at 5:18 PM, David Murn wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-07 at 12:00 -0800, SteveC wrote: That's kind of interesting. Sold over what time period though? The article I posted gave figures (in both volume and $ sales) for per-quarter periods, compared with other quarters in 2010

Re: [OSM-talk] What phone survey results

2011-01-07 Thread SteveC
: On 05/01/2011 22:45, SteveC wrote: In response to the critique of the validity, feel free to go do a better job. Why do people who are afraid of criticism (in fact, it was just a question to start with) always post ridiculous non sequiturs such as the above? *I* don't want to know who's

Re: [OSM-talk] What phone survey results

2011-01-07 Thread SteveC
That's kind of interesting. Sold over what time period though? On Jan 6, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Michael Kugelmann wrote: On 05.01.2011 23:45, SteveC wrote: Results from my crude little survey; For my point of view this is somehow the same as the distribution of phones sold. Except: the very

Re: [OSM-talk] Use of Bing imagery visualised - update

2011-01-07 Thread SteveC
now you just need to go add addr:* tags for all of them, and you're done :-) On Jan 4, 2011, at 4:21 AM, Steve Chilton wrote: Updated and colour differentiated: http://www.stevechilton.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/osm/buildingsBing.png Cheers STEVE -Original Message- From:

[OSM-talk] What phone survey results

2011-01-05 Thread SteveC
Results from my crude little survey; count percentage Android of some kind70 30% Nokia 65 28% iPhone 39 17% Other 45 19%

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs and the 1 April deadline

2011-01-05 Thread SteveC
very funny On Jan 4, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Rob Myers wrote: On 04/01/11 15:05, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Miller wrote: I will currently be one of the people locked out because I have used the Ordnance Survey open data which is apparently incompatible with the new license. OS OpenData

[Talk-us] Fwd: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap?

2010-12-14 Thread SteveC
Steve Begin forwarded message: From: Michal Migurski m...@stamen.com Date: December 14, 2010 11:14:19 PM PST To: SteveC st...@asklater.com Subject: Re: SF Gov GIS data clickthrough license - compatible with OpenStreetMap? I told him I'd pass the word along, there's nothing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Is this click through agreement compatible with OSM?

2010-12-12 Thread SteveC
Making sure mike sees this thread... He's been talking to the same people I believe. Steve stevecoast.com On Dec 11, 2010, at 1:27 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com wrote: city changed the click through to

Re: [Talk-us] Address Node Import for San Francisco

2010-12-12 Thread SteveC
Just wanna say that addressing in SF would be awesome :-) Steve stevecoast.com On Dec 10, 2010, at 1:29 AM, Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Gregory Arenius greg...@arenius.com

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-26 Thread SteveC
Speaking personally about what large orgs and what they want, I think it's pretty simple. Have a look at commercial data and OSM and do a diff, what are the main things missing? Addressing for geocoding and turn restrictions for routing. On Nov 26, 2010, at 1:27 AM, Ed Avis wrote: I think

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference (from osm-talk)

2010-11-26 Thread SteveC
On Nov 25, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Grant Slater wrote: John, On 25 November 2010 20:15, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Just a comment from one of the 130 who has voted yes on the recommendation of one of the people I thought was fairly sensible here and I now regret taking his advice.

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-26 Thread SteveC
://oegeo.wordpress.com/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:36 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Speaking personally about what large orgs and what they want, I think it's pretty simple. Have a look at commercial data and OSM and do a diff, what are the main things

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference (from osm-talk)

2010-11-26 Thread SteveC
On Nov 26, 2010, at 3:03 PM, Grant Slater wrote: On 26 November 2010 21:37, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Nov 25, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Grant Slater wrote: There have been many round of question, answers and many revisions. The LWG spends at around 25% of their time just keeping minutes

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-26 Thread SteveC
://schaaltreinen.nl | http://martijnvanexel.nl | http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ twitter / skype: mvexel flickr: rhodes On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Nov 26, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote: ...and some metric that tells you that the data

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-26 Thread SteveC
On Nov 26, 2010, at 3:25 PM, Ed Avis wrote: SteveC steve at asklater.com writes: Speaking personally about what large orgs and what they want, I think it's pretty simple. Have a look at commercial data and OSM and do a diff, what are the main things missing? Addressing for geocoding

Re: [OSM-talk] Suggestion for an Unconference

2010-11-24 Thread SteveC
Hrm. I think we should have some kind of idea of what we're trying to accomplish. There are a bunch of companies interested in OSM, and it might be nice for them to talk. I suspect it's about as simple as that? But we don't want to do that and exclude anyone else, so it should be free for

Re: [Talk-de] news von steve coast

2010-11-24 Thread SteveC
On Nov 24, 2010, at 2:09 AM, Martin Simon wrote: Am 23. November 2010 22:27 schrieb SteveC st...@asklater.com: wow Hey, stop google-translate-ing our list! We can only succesfully conspire against you, OSMF, ODBL and whoever-you-happen-to-work-for-atm when it's kept secret! Please

Re: [Talk-de] news von steve coast

2010-11-23 Thread SteveC
wow On Nov 23, 2010, at 12:36 PM, 007 wrote: Pure Spekulation ;) : OSM bekommt The worlds best sat imagery. Beuutifull pictures. Gibt es nichts mehr zu mappen wird nach einhelliger Meinung der ODBL-Verschwörungstheoriegemeinde die versuchte Übernahme der Openstreetmap durch

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM11 will be held in Denver.

2010-10-25 Thread SteveC
Believe it or not (and I look forward to the conspiracy theories on 80n's mailing list) it's one very large coincidence. I originally pushed Denver (where I live) with some folks here for SOTM-US and Eric asked me to help with the FOSS4G bid for 2010. Both fell through. Then Hurricane and

Re: [Talk-us] Request for community mediation

2010-10-21 Thread SteveC
+1 On Oct 21, 2010, at 3:16 PM, Ian Dees wrote: I agree with Richard but I don't want to feed the trolls by responding (which is the policy of several other mailing list readers I know). On Oct 21, 2010 4:08 PM, Nathan Edgars II nerou...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:37 PM,

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-16 Thread SteveC
On Oct 15, 2010, at 9:13 PM, Anthony wrote: I also haven't been kicked out of Wikipedia, though you have claimed it multiple times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Raul654/Anthony_evidence#Anthony_DiPierro

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread SteveC
lately is from SteveC... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread SteveC
Steve stevecoast.com On Oct 16, 2010, at 8:43 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 October 2010 00:36, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Oh hardly. All I have done is call out Anthony and link to the things he denies about wikipedia. What specifically has any

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread SteveC
Well that's kind of hilarious given you cut out the first half of my email where I exactly answered your question Duane. Steve stevecoast.com On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:02 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 October 2010 00:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I wish i had

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread SteveC
...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 October 2010 00:58, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: I wish i had a pony. This is why things end up in a endless debate, people pose serious questions and you either can't be bothered, or won't respond properly so the debate can move forward. I, and probably

Re: [OSM-talk] Code of Conduct: civil discussion, lists etc.

2010-10-16 Thread SteveC
On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:50 AM, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: On Saturday 16 October 2010 17:40:36 SteveC wrote: :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com|\ ^(to|cc|bcc).*ed...@billiau.net .spam/ :0: * ^(to|cc|bcc).*...@inbox.org|\ ^(to|cc|bcc

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Thread SteveC
On Oct 15, 2010, at 8:36 AM, Randy Meech wrote: Why would you expect that? Randy Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:41 PM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Mike N.

Re: [OSM-talk] Response to A critique of OpenStreetMap

2010-10-15 Thread SteveC
On Oct 15, 2010, at 1:32 PM, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 10:22:56 -0600 SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Anthony is just trolling. He's been kicked out of wikipedia, as noted multiple times. Ignore him. That is untruthful. Which bit? Steve stevecoast.com

[Talk-us] Detroit

2010-10-12 Thread SteveC
Is anyone on this list in the Detroit metro area? I was hoping to speak at the LUG there, but can't, and it'd be nice if someone else could do a little OSM demo. Steve stevecoast.com ___ Talk-us mailing list Talk-us@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-us] Detroit

2010-10-12 Thread SteveC
nov 13 On Oct 12, 2010, at 9:38 AM, Richard Weait wrote: On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:28 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Is anyone on this list in the Detroit metro area? I was hoping to speak at the LUG there, but can't, and it'd be nice if someone else could do a little OSM demo

Re: [Talk-us] SOTM bid- Denver

2010-10-12 Thread SteveC
On Oct 12, 2010, at 11:56 AM, Katie Filbert wrote: I think the bid is very promising and would be happy to come to Denver Being strawman here, putting some issues and questions out... Take a look at Haifa's Wikimania bid page, and perhaps fill in some more details like what they

Re: [OSM-talk] If you've missed this ...

2010-10-06 Thread SteveC
On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:23 AM, Nic Roets wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 4:09 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote: Op 06-10-10 15:12, Nic Roets schreef: On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:55 PM, TimSC

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread SteveC
Jochen this is level 17 awesome. The first thing I wanted to look at was this http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/FIXME and then go fix things near me. Maybe if I click on the map it could redirect to a nominatim search for that tag, if you can constrain the search to a bbox near

Re: [OSM-talk] Introducing Taginfo

2010-10-05 Thread SteveC
but the point is hooking the two things together? On Oct 5, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Jochen Topf wrote: On Tue, Oct 05, 2010 at 08:56:00AM -0600, SteveC wrote: The first thing I wanted to look at was this http://taginfo.openstreetmap.de/keys/FIXME and then go fix things near me. Maybe if I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-02 Thread SteveC
project. On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:10 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: This message has gone OT. On 01/10/2010 19:38, SteveC wrote: Both are very easy to discover. Hell, you can even get my phone number from my

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-02 Thread SteveC
On Oct 2, 2010, at 5:16 PM, Anthony wrote: On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 6:54 PM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote a bunch of stuff. I'd like to further ask that you do not repost private messages on a public message board. Your behavior is unacceptable, and I'm not going to respond

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread SteveC
On Oct 1, 2010, at 6:43 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: TimSC wrote: It may be possible to argue that OSMF did try to engage the community. Rather than me try to make the case, it's more fun seeing what justifications people are trying to use on the mailing list! Seriously? You

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread SteveC
On Oct 1, 2010, at 12:20 PM, Anthony wrote: On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:58 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Personally I think it's time to consider kickbanning the trolls with the fake names. TimSC is a fake name? If so, what's SteveC? Both are very easy to discover. Hell, you can

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread SteveC
On Oct 1, 2010, at 5:18 PM, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: This message has gone OT. On 01/10/2010 19:38, SteveC wrote: Both are very easy to discover. Hell, you can even get my phone number from my website. What do you want, a medal? Yes please. The hint

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

2010-09-30 Thread SteveC
On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Those people fill out a form and are invited later to use some simple online screen capturing software while asked to do some simple tasks and this is where you come

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

2010-09-30 Thread SteveC
On Sep 30, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 16:20, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Those people fill out a form

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] OSM User Testing

2010-09-30 Thread SteveC
Just my few cents! On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:42 AM, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Sep 30, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 16:20, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

2010-09-30 Thread SteveC
On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Those people fill out a form and are invited later to use some simple online screen capturing software while asked to do some simple tasks and this is where you come

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] OSM User Testing

2010-09-30 Thread SteveC
On Sep 30, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 16:20, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 15:34, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote: Those people fill out a form

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