On 14/5/21 4:23 pm, Bob Cameron wrote:
Just checking if this is an okay thing to do. ie moving a major road
so it is centred on GPS traces - assuming there enough data for
accuracy (eg bidirectional, multi trace etc)
Just a word of caution, to say that using historical GPS data will undo
I haven't walked those sections between Blowering Dam and Tumbarumba, so
I'm happy to trust your judgement.
I'm still hoping to map more one day on foot with GPS. If I do, I'll
revisit OSM, as I always do when I got good traces.
John
On 21/02/17 11:30, Warin wrote:
For comparison of the
On 20/02/17 20:49, Warin wrote:
I'd no be worried by 10 m ... the differences are ~100 metres in
places. Might be more in some places too .. have not been measuring
.. just concerned at the differences. It could be as simple as
running off a map and going a bit off the official course as 'it
On 02/09/16 07:10, Andrew Davidson wrote:
Come and visit Canberra; u-turns at traffic lights are permitted.
Only where specifically permitted. The "ACT Road Rules", Rule 40 states:
"Making a U–turn at an intersection with traffic lights"
"A driver must not make a U–turn at an intersection
On 01/10/15 20:44, Andy Townsend wrote:
I'm no mkgmap expert and even I manage to do it, using the
"--add-pois-to-areas" flag. :)
Wow, mkgmap has come a long way since the early days. Time for me to
have another look and revise my flags :)
One of the things it needs to do to be really
On 30/09/15 19:31, Andrew Harvey wrote:
Currently Melbourne Airport appears in the database twice, once as a
node once as a way. Is there any reason why I should not move the
tags from the node to the way and delete the node?
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/235151361
On 18/09/15 12:26, Andrew Davidson wrote:
Currently in NSW point-to-point cameras are only used to check heavy
vehicle speeds.
That restriction certainly doesn't apply in the ACT.
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On 02/09/15 13:55, Nev Wedding wrote:
I think you should add tags as you think appropriate using satellite
imagery and any gps traces in the area and then add a changeset
comment to the person who originally entered the data, explaining
what you have done ask for a check or further info. The
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/330876380
Unless I'm mistaken, this road seems to have no tags whatsoever.
I didn't think such a situation was possible.
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Hi sparrowhawk,
Done. You may want to revise details on the versions that remain.
Regards,
John
On saturday night I made my first edit, adding a couple of streets
that appeared to be missing and naming an unnamed street in Glen
Innes NSW. I used Mercaartor (SP) included in ubuntu 14.04.2.
On 31/12/13 11:17, Warin wrote:
Any other thoughts?
Use mkgmap to make your own Garmin maps. Edit the mkgmap points file
and add an entry for radio telescope. Eg:
man_made=radio_telescope [0x6411 resolution 21]
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On 27/10/13 12:27, Arthur Geeson wrote:
Firstly a thank you to the replies I got about the missing bench
seats that were not appearing on the map.
I have been trying to get JOSM working and it implied that I had a
version of java that was too old. I then spend several hours to get
a new
On 19/10/13 11:20, Neil Penman wrote:
Unfortunately the culture seems to have become that any accurate
local mapping should be replaced with unthinking tracing over the top
of obsolete satellite imagery.
I find that it sometimes helps to add an appropriately-worded note to
the nodes or ways
On 24/08/13 18:43, Chik Foo wrote:
I'm fairly active in Canberra.
It's time to put those bus stops onto OSM, along with the stop
number
as a ref=* tag.
I'm guessing ACTION will place these stop number information in the
google_transit.zip file from
On 30/04/13 14:29, Nick Hocking wrote:
The other day I was riding the push bike along some trails and got
talking to some horse riders.
It turns out the Lady (Jenny) is the ACT coordinator for (and also
the secretary of) the Bicentennial National Trail Ltd. Naturally I
dropped the term
On 12/02/13 12:29, Barker, Nicholas wrote:
Hi all I’m after a bit of clarification regarding national cycle
route and mountain bike route relations in Australia. I've searched
the wiki but still have some questions. I hope someone can point me
in the right direction. As many of you will know we
On 12/12/12 23:35, Nathan Van Der Meulen wrote:
I completely disagree that population alone should be used to
classify a location (unless the populations are seriously reduced).
Going by the suggested populations, places like Tenterfield, Glen
Innes, Charleville will become villages and
On 11/12/12 09:17, Chris Barham wrote:
I really do think Gympie, Maryborough, Warwick and Charters Towers
are cities, and should have remained tagged as such. Are there
others, in other states, within this changeset that should have
stayed as is?
I remember the fact that Warwick officially
On 11/12/12 15:02, Michael James wrote:
Warwick - April 1936
Thanks - it must have been an anniversary celebration that I remember
from the mid 70s. They certainly made a fuss about being a city.
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On 02/12/12 09:10, Ben Kelley wrote:
Where it gets more complicated is when we start to think what kind
of marking we should expect to see on the ground before we say that
this is a cycle route in the OSM sense. The same applies when
deciding that some street is not really a cycle route.
I
Steer wrote:
I have been trying to find the accepted practise for mapping traffic
lights where dual carriageways interest. There is much discussion
on various sites, but most seems to be a bit old, and I’m not
convinced I’ve found what is the latest accepted practise.
I checked some
On 04/11/12 07:29, Ian Sergeant wrote:
By choosing to place traffic light not on the intersection node, you
are failing to represent that this is an intersection of two roads,
controlled by traffic signals. Instead you are choosing to
represent There is a stop line here and traffic signal and
On 01/11/12 23:43, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
What's the best kind of contribution that would make their use of OSM
more relevant to the public?
Putting in the footpaths which aren't alongside the road. I mean the
important ones which run between buildings to allow pedestrian access
between
On 23/10/12 15:42, Mark Pulley wrote:
Over the last few years I have added many tracks that are definitely
drivable with a 2-wheel drive (the vast majority added using the GPS
trace from my 2-wheel drive car). 4x4 required should definitely not
be implied by highway=track.
Seconded, from
On 21/10/12 12:03, dban...@internode.on.net wrote:
lanes=[1; 2]
I thing the lanes tag is best not used, unless there's more than two
marked lanes on a two-way road, or more than one lane on a one-way road.
This is the recommendation in the Australian tagging guidelines:
On 21/10/12 13:40, Paul HAYDON wrote:
It occurs to me there's at least one other case which warrants
tagging the lanes - a two-way road (or section thereof) having only
a single lane. I.E. when there are LESS than one in each
direction, making passing difficult or unsafe at normal speeds.
On 21/10/12 13:28, dban...@internode.on.net wrote:
OK, I'm interested in what you say about lanes= John (and the rest
too!)
I use lanes=1 to indicate that a road is generally only wide enough
for one car, if one approaches traveling in the other direction, both
need to slow a little and pull
On 12/10/12 20:34, Nick Hocking wrote:
http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/debug.html?view=routing_non_eulon=150.82846lat=-33.7503zoom=15opacity=0.98
gets the routing outside europe ( I had the same problem and went
looking for this url)
That's much better, thanks.
Hi Russell,
I've installed and run it in JOSM OK.
But I see it operates only for straight lines.
I was hoping it'd average GPS traces downloaded from OSM in JOSM around
corners and curves. That would be a big ask, I know.
John
On 24/09/12 01:16, Russell Edwards wrote:
On 22/09/12 10:20,
On 24/09/12 06:21, Abhi Beckert wrote:
Somebody else (or maybe me) will notice eventually and take the time
to replace it with more accurate data.
Or, having taken great pains to get it very accurate, somebody will
correct it with wildly inaccurate data. Sometimes from imagery with a
big
Hi Ian,
On 23/09/12 22:27, Steer wrote:
I have been updating OSM in my suburb, and am getting the feeling
that while the Garmin maps on OSM Australia update every night, the
changes I make don’t seem to come through for many days.
Can someone please explain the process so I know when to start
On 20/09/12 22:41, Ross Scanlon wrote:
No, a mini-roundabout can be traversed by ANY vehicle legally and
this is not the case in Australia. You can only do so where
impracticable for the vehicle.
That bit about ANY vehicle is not part of the current definition of a
mini_roundabout in OSM.
A
On 20/09/12 18:37, Stephen Hope wrote:
Mini-roundabout doesn't mean you can legally drive over it in any
vehicle, it means that you can physically drive over it if you need
to. The australian guidelines are wrong, in this case. And yes, I
know how they evolved to this state, I've kept up on
On 20/09/12 22:27, Peter Hoban wrote:
Discovering the accuracy of a unit is easy. Find a convenient spot near
your house and with your GPS record its position. Come back next day
(or at least a few hours later) and do it again. Repeat daily until you
are sick of it and you will then have a
Hi all,
I want to draw attention to the correct tag for rest areas, namely
highway:rest_area
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Drest_area
Most I've seen have been tagged as amenity:parking and/or
tourism:camp_site. The camp_site tag is wildly misleading, as setting
up camp is
On 20/09/12 08:17, John Smith wrote:
The rest area to the south of Gympie allows camping for up to 48
hours or something like that, it's not the only one, but the one I
know off the top of my head.
I'm aware of a few of those free caravan/camping facilities, sometimes
provided by local
On 24/08/12 21:24, Nick Hocking wrote:
One spot where my GPS traces don't indicate the border is on the
extension to Hugh Mackay Crescent. John, does your information of
this area (Bicentennial Natiuonal Trail) indicate where the border
is?
I deleted all my GPS data from that area. Way back
On 14/08/12 22:27, Nick Hocking wrote:
Still until the licence change is complete I'm not about to add any new stuff.
JOSM 5356 says License change data redaction is finished, if that's
what you mean.
John
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On 15/08/12 02:26, Ben Johnson wrote:
I really like this, but I think your source:maxspeed=AU:urban below
is a typo. It would be simply
maxspeed=AU:urban
The problem is that AU:urban isn't numeric. It isn't a speed at all.
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On 15/08/12 06:49, Ben Johnson wrote:
It's part of a traffic zone proposal. It derives values based on the
country and type of zone. It looks like it can be an effective way
to define an entire set of tags that should apply consistently
across a group of ways (eg a method for all ways in a
On 25/07/12 16:07, Adrian Plaskitt wrote:
Greetings all. I usually confine my mapping to bush tracks and cycle
paths as this is what I am most interested in and is often not
available from other sources. With the recent devastation of the base
map I am remapping some of my local area, and
On 22/07/12 09:31, Nick Hocking wrote:
Excellent stuff Kai, Canberra-Adelaide will be underway soon. Right
after Golf that is :-) Unfortunately, I know what's going to happen -
I'll be zipping along the highways and will be sidetracked into
fixing up every country town I pass that I have mapped
On 19/07/12 19:29, waldo000...@gmail.com wrote:
Show of hands - Who's going to 1) stick around and help fix the
Australian OSM map
I've never had any intention of moving to an alternative.
JOSM users shouldn't forget that they can tick Raw GPS data when
downloading sections of map to work
On 19/07/12 20:01, Brett Russell wrote:
Ok, it has mountains at 300 metre zoom level along with walking
tracks but given that cyclemaps is for a peddle powered adventurer I
am not surprise. Ok next step getting mountains to appear at higher
levels along with tracks. So thanks John for the
On 18/07/12 01:46, SomeoneElse wrote:
FWIW recent splitter and mkgmap versions should work OK with pbf
files, I think.
Thanks for the tip. I'm happy to report that I've updated my splitter
and mkgmap, and have created my gmapsupp.img from
australia-oceania.osm.pbf without using osmosis at
On 18/07/12 18:45, Brett Russell wrote:
I have been playing with the IMG file for Tasmania from OSM website,
both routable and standard and like what I see but they are
optimised for vehicles with foot tracks not showing unto at the 300
metre scale is zoomed to. As do mountains. This means
Hi Brett,
You've made remarkable progress in a very short time!
I'm a Linux user rather than Windows, so I can be of limited help there.
I can add to Steve's reply.
Firstly, you need to convert that pbf file to an osm one. You use the
osmosis program to do that.
Hi Brett,
On 16/07/12 20:16, Brett Russell wrote:
When navigating in the bush you often target big object so it would
be great if peaks could appear earlier, say even fifty kilometres as
otherwise you are navigating by looking at blades of grass. Also
be good if you could set the tracks to
See article for details:
http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/01/openstreetmap-google/all/1
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On 10/12/11 21:11, Sam Couter wrote:
Many urban residential roads have speed limits of 60 or maybe
70km/h. I think rural roads with moderately dense residential acre
blocks and 80km/h speed limits are still residential, unless they're
also the main route to a neighbouring town, in which case
On 11/12/11 08:35, Sam Couter wrote:
In the ACT 50km/h is the default if there are no signs.
I know that's what the road signs say as you enter the ACT. It's also
repeated on official ACT government web sites.
But it's an over-simplification.
The ACT version of the Australian Road Rules
As time and opportunity arises, I've started re-entering rural roads
where it's clear that the original is scheduled for deletion. I'm
deleting the old way completely, and re-entering it from GPS data I'm
gathering.
JOSM now has a License Check plugin to identify potential deletions,
bringing
On 15/12/11 02:15, Ross Scanlon wrote:
That's fine so long as you are not transferring any tags from the
original way.
Yes, and that's why I'm trying not to reuse any original nodes. I
imagine a lot of corners and other detail is going to disappear from
some ways which remain (as I interpret
On 04/12/11 00:09, Steve Bennett wrote:
Fwiw, I get Garmin maps from osmaustralia.org. Obviously anyone can
custom generate their own Garmin maps and remove the suburb
boundaries, but that wasn't really my point.
I realize that, but I was trying to help with the specific problem you
raised.
On 02/12/11 12:27, Andrew Laughton wrote:
I would like a copy of the map before these deletes are made for my
GPS, has someone done this before these deletes were done ?
I'm not sure exactly what you're looking for, but I've got a copy of
On 03/12/11 10:47, Steve Bennett wrote:
To play Devil's Advocate here, does anyone actually want the suburb
boundaries retained (or reimported)? To me, they've always been a
big pain in the arse - they get in the way when you're trying to map,
they show up in various renderings and add noise,
On 01/12/11 19:15, Andrew Harvey wrote:
Deleted by user: cc_cleaner in changeset
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/9915617
I found this by looking at this area in the owl viewer:
http://matt.dev.openstreetmap.org/owl_viewer/map
Thanks Andrew. I wasn't aware of that facility. It
On 01/12/11 22:34, Mark Pulley wrote:
User cc-cleaner? I've had a quick look at some of the changesets, and
they all seem to be just deleting things. I have a suspicion that the
things being deleted are by users who haven't agreed to the new license,
but I didn't think we were up to this stage
On 02/12/11 01:11, Grant Slater wrote:
I have nothing to do with the cc_cleaner user's deletes/edits. I often
watch OSM edits using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LiveMapViewer
and noticed the deletes of mostly DrLizAU's contributions. I suspected
DrLizAU was removing her own contributions,
On 02/12/11 01:11, Grant Slater wrote:
I often watch OSM edits using
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/LiveMapViewer and noticed the
deletes of mostly DrLizAU's contributions. I suspected DrLizAU was
removing her own contributions, but cannot back this up.
DrLizAU's ethical standards are
On 02/12/11 09:00, Richard Weait wrote:
Deleting tainted data and remapping by local mappers is far superior
to waiting until March 31 and running a script.
So removing data from decliners and remapping it, and reaching out
to those who haven't yet responded is valid and valuable.
Thanks for
On 04/11/11 11:09, Steve Coast wrote:
I disagree. Moderation is the only way to stop this channel being
filled with diatribes and I'm glad that the moderator(s) are being
reasonable enough to let the better emails through.
To each his own. I look up Liz and John S and value their opinions.
On 06/10/11 16:47, Steve Bennett wrote:
It would be very cool to have it fully mapped. As a trail, it has the
same issue as some other trails like the Tasmanania Trail, which
really work best for horses and are problematic for cyclists (poor
surface, obstacles) and hikers (lacking interest,
On 06/10/11 17:17, Steve Bennett wrote:
Interesting. Who makes the changes? Do they update any signs?
I did the initial mapping and some changes, but I notice that others
have contributed updates.
Generally, new signage gets added (although old signs on disused
sections usually get left
On 08/09/11 07:58, Ian Sergeant wrote:
The issue I have is with using a route relation with a road name to
link split parts of a named road, and including roads that don't
have a name or alternate name in common with the route, and can't
clearly be identified as part of that route by survey.
highway=ford is not rendering on Mapnik, eg:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-35.50894lon=149.67154zoom=17layers=M
I believe it should. I have no idea who to raise this issue with, or how.
Before I spend more time looking, does somebody happen to know?
John H
On 02/09/11 10:16, Ian Sergeant wrote:
Hi,
I'm pretty sure mapnik doesn't render highway=ford on a way. It is
probably for the best that it doesn't, IMO.
See
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=7510#p7510 and
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Stylesheet for information on what
On 02/09/11 12:44, Ian Sergeant wrote:
So, if I were you, I would either use highway=ford on a node, rather
than a way, or use highway=unclassified, ford=yes.
Thanks. I'll put it back to that again.
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On 26/08/11 13:33, Nick Hocking wrote:
I'd really like it if all roads that don't have names yet (in OSM)
were just deleted. Then II'd be much more inclined to drive there and
collect all the infomation.
Having a quick look around, it looks like one of us needs to put some
names onto the
On 27/08/11 06:47, Liz wrote:
A lot of those streets were placed by a particular person whom I
know traced from Google in particular places. I'll stop that
accusation there. I haven't been able to put many names to streets in
Cowra because I don't travel through there often. If the streets are
On 25/08/11 08:36, Chris Barham wrote:
Hi,
at this link
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-27.4395lon=152.726zoom=14layers=M
in Fernvale, there are two label oddities:
1) Bottom left - town label Fernvale appears, but the town is also
labelled correctly up to the North East already (where the
On 11/07/11 00:02, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
So please, let's stop hitting each other over the head with this.
That's a very unAustralian attitude.
John H
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On 08/07/11 00:01, 80n wrote:
The probability of collisions is quite small in practice. We are able
to automatically sync all OSM updates into fosm.org http://fosm.org in
near real time. Consequenly fosm.org http://fosm.org already has more
content than OSM and the gap will continue to widen.
On 20/06/11 11:49, James Andrewartha wrote:
Ah, that welcoming OSM spirit.
Yes, it's easy to forget sometimes that we're all friends here.
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On 16/06/11 10:21, David Groom wrote:
I should have added how impressed I am with the generous attitude that
Nearmap has taken in regards to these past contributions, please pass my
thanks on to those concerned.
I second that. I'm delighted that I can now accept the new terms
without
On 14/05/11 16:35, Ben Kelley wrote:
IMHO definitely put source=survey if it is. (e.g. from a gps track) It
can be difficult to determine this later.
E.g. I can see that there is a GPS track log nearby, but did the person
use it?
This brings up a point which I'd like clarification on.
When I
On 08/04/11 06:25, {withheld} wrote:
Whilst I agree / commiserate with your basic point (been there; done
that; spent the fuel), don't you still have the raw traces from your
device? I certainly do, and consider at no point have I ever given up my
rights to them.
I couldn't see any point in
On 08/04/11 07:30, {withheld} wrote:
VNT-2: You didn't upload the traces to OSM, and thus have the capability
to legitimately download them again; do you? Worth checking:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/your-OSM-id/traces.
Unfortunately no. The few traces I've uploaded have been the pure
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=mapping-the-food-desert
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On 17/02/11 20:16, {withheld} wrote:
Here is a suggestion:
Whenever a situation like this comes up (i.e. posted signage which does
not fit neatly in a predetermined/official tag case), why not introduce
a new tag:
signposted: Literal text from sign
...on the basis such a thing cannot
On 17/02/11 12:58, John Smith wrote:
Saw a couple of roads signed unsuitable for caravans which seems
like council butt covering but I'm not sure how to tag it since it's a
sign to discourage rather than to disallow.
I've got at least one to tag also. Maybe
access:caravan=unsuitable
On 17/02/11 16:12, David Murn wrote:
Presumably if its unsuitable for caravans, its also unsuitable for HGV?
Maybe simply re-use the HGV access tags already in place?
I think they should be kept separate - there'll likely be places where
caravans are permitted (encouraged even), but HGVs not
On 08/11/10 20:49, Peter Ross wrote:
Their idea is that a museum (say) would buy these locata things and
place them throughout their building then people could wander around
with their smart phone and get information relevant to where they are,
or alternatively firefighters could place the
I note the wiki says that Direction of the way should be downstream.
Most streams I look at on OSM have been drawn uphill, and I've been
reversing the direction of ones I notice as wrong. Indeed, I find it
more natural to draw streams that way myself, and then reverse them.
This is just to
On 12/07/10 10:33, Simon Biber wrote:
I don't think size is the deciding factor... pitch is used in general as an area
for a sport (including individual sports like sport=skateboard). In this case it
seems that most people have been using leisure=fishing instead of sport=fishing
so I guess we
On 05/07/10 17:49, John Smith wrote:
There is no church, they're using a school hall for church based activities...
church is a significant amenity provided by that building, surely. It
is, by all accounts, a place of worship.
John H
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On 05/07/10 19:19, John Smith wrote:
At most the church (as an organisation) makes use of a location,
what's on the ground is a school facility that may have many such
uses...
Like a Post Office building also acting as a weather-monitoring station,
for example? Just tag the Post Office?
On 20/06/10 11:52, John Smith wrote:
Does anyone know why Linderman Island and 2 other islands close to the
northern Qld coast get their own time zone?
Are you sure that's not just on April 1st?
John H
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On 17/06/10 15:48, John Smith wrote:
I knew someone had brought it up in the past, but I'm wondering if we
could map it as an area rather than a line?
Arguably the best approach would be to mark the wilderness area as such,
and perhaps show any tracks stopping at the boundaries.
Others may
On 17/06/10 23:13, Tom Brennan wrote:
Not always true. For example, from the Plan of Management for Kanangra
Boyd National Park
Existing walking tracks on the Kanangra Tops within the wilderness (as
indicated on the map on the central pages of this plan) will be retained
and managed to
On 17/06/10 15:27, John Smith wrote:
tagging names...
AS2156=* isn't descriptive enough, the standard covers several aspects
from gradients to publicity, this document was interesting, if nothing
else for the publicity section on the bottom of page 5:
On 11/06/10 19:28, John Smith wrote:
Thanks for going to so much effort, I was only expecting 1 or 2 shots
of the same stile...
No problem - just a pleasant bicycle ride along the BNT for a retiree.
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On 10/06/10 15:08, John Smith wrote:
As I said, it was just a stub page, feel free to extend it :)
I've added In some countries, a horse stile might be more commonly
called a cavaletti or a horse hop.
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On 10/06/10 10:33, John Smith wrote:
On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Hendersonsnow...@gmx.com wrote:
I'm more than happy to go with barrier=horse_stile, given that established
usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting
a note on the map features page when I take
On 09/06/10 16:55, John Smith wrote:
On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Hendersonsnow...@gmx.com wrote:
barrier=cattle_grid
cattle_grid=cavaletti
What about:
barrier=horse_grid
They aren't cattle grids, and they aren't proper cavalettis either
from what I've seen, cavalettis seem to be horse
On 09/06/10 17:28, John Smith wrote:
Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse
stiles... like a turnstile but for horses...
Rather than a turnstile, more like the existing barrier=stile, which
allows a walker to cross a fence using rudimentary stairs/steps to climb
it.
On 10/06/10 11:15, John Smith wrote:
On 10 June 2010 11:10, Jim Croftjim.cr...@gmail.com wrote:
there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend...
Thanks, in the mean time I wrote a stub page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhorse_stile
Shouldn't the page
On 09/06/10 09:22, John Smith wrote:
On 9 June 2010 09:07, John Hendersonsnow...@gmx.com wrote:
Do I put it on the main international wiki, or just the Australian one?
Map features page, but first I'd come up with a better name, even
wikipedia couldn't find anything related to the 2 keywords
On 09/06/10 09:40, John Smith wrote:
The name might be correct, but I don't think it is a good choice for a
name since it doesn't appear even in wikipedia, then again I can't
seem to find anything better, nor any images of permanent
installations.
Almost completely obscured by cyclists, but
On 03/06/10 13:31, Eraina and Richard jenkins wrote:
2.At least two people suggested that an eeepc 701 would make a
great GPS using Navit. I'd love to find a howto for this because I
have one sitting on my desk ... and I could do a simple PS to run it
off the car electrics. Mine is the
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