Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 21:56, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In the absence of any objection I intend proceeding with this scheme on the coming Monday (21st June, 2010). Can you please update a couple of stations and paste links showing what you plan to do?

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 22:24, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: specific request to check hillston airport Station Details ID: 075032 Name: HILLSTON AIRPORT and hay airport Station Details ID: 075019 Name: HAY AIRPORT AWS as i have found those ones and moved them already the numbers on the BoM

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 10:39, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I am facing the same issue in Bendigo. I have been considering suggesting a landuse=rural_residential tag. AS you state, these blocks are too small for Aren't they commonly known as hobby farms if you have a few animals

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 07:17, Tom Brennan webs...@ozultimate.com wrote: Other than contours, the key things bushwalkers want to see for Do you have any suggestions on how contours should be marked? eg every 10m elevation, or 5 or 50 or ... ? navigation are: - tracks - render as dashed black line

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 11:33, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: A farm is an area of land that you derive the majority of your income from. Given the drought of the last decade it could be argued that there are many more hobby farms across the southern states. Personally I don't like

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 11:40, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: are we mapping for tax purposes? We map what ever is verifiable, a tax purpose might be verifiable :D what is it referred to in the local government act (or planning act) of your particular state. No idea, I've always

Re: [talk-au] Generating good looking PDF/SVG maps?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 06:16, Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com wrote: My current thinking is that Mapnik would be the best tool for this. I don't know what produces a SVG file, but if you click on the export tag on the main OSM website you can export areas as SVG.

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 13:49, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Try Australian Standard AS 2156.1-2001 (Walking tracks - Classification and signage) http://infostore.saiglobal.com/store2/Details.aspx?ProductID=260163 (not free, but try e.g. the following page for some details:

Re: [talk-au] Residential landuse

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:09, Craig Feuerherdt craigfeuerhe...@gmail.com wrote: I don't disagree Roy. I still argue that the land use isn't wholly residential and that these peri-urban areas are a distinct land use. The other alternative is another tag to help (those who want to) distinguish

Re: [talk-au] Proposal to update weather monitoring_stations using BoM data.

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 14:06, {Tim} m526244+osm...@gmail.com wrote: In essence there's six cases, varying in reliability of the result: 1. Example: Ballina Airport AWS http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/741763977 * Site already exists in OSM; both WMO:id and name details match those

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 June 2010 15:46, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I may have raised this issue in the past. Walking tracks are never signposted or otherwise marked through declared wilderness areas. This includes some sections of the Australian Alps Walking Track. Maps should not show tracks in

[talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-15 Thread John Smith
Some of us were discussing making a custom hiking map styles on IRC earlier so we can print out such maps or use them in presentations to show bush walkers the potential of what they can get back out of OSM. I don't think any of us has had much to do with hiking maps, so is anyone on this list an

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 10:58, Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: The advantage of the orienteering map style is that it emphasises features which can be used for navigation and route planning. The problem with that is I don't think a lot of those things are mapped by most OSM'ers... I was thinking

Re: [talk-au] Hikers on this list?

2010-06-15 Thread John Smith
On 16 June 2010 12:50, Peter Ross pe...@emailross.com wrote: Agreed, they're not mapped at the moment but if someone starts rendering them, then people will start to map them. Some people already attempted to do this: http://oobrien.com/oom/ I'm guessing, but orienteering maps seem to be

[talk-au] Buildings

2010-06-13 Thread John Smith
I know this was a pet topic of Steve, the wiki page for buildings suggests building:use=* for the use but has anyone tagging buildings with anything other than building=yes? ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Highway classifications

2010-06-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 June 2010 11:30, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, I think it boils down to this: make it secondary if it's more important than nearby tertiary roads, and make it tertiary if it's less important than nearby secondary roads. Iterate. That seems to be circular

Re: [talk-au] Buildings

2010-06-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 June 2010 14:57, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/building/#values shows lots of esoteric values. I don't know what people expect building=university to mean or do. Building:use gets some love: http://osmdoc.com/en/tag/building:use/#values Looks like

Re: [talk-au] Highway classifications

2010-06-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 June 2010 15:15, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: But: is combining state and council road classifications a feasible approach? Presumably not every council will have a web-accessible register of roads with this kind of classification. Comments? Wouldn't most councils be using

Re: [talk-au] Highway classifications

2010-06-13 Thread John Smith
On 14 June 2010 15:45, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Sure, do you know what it is? In in case though, you're going to need a council document defining how each road is classified. Nope, others seem to either come across this as part of their work, or know others that do.

[talk-au] USB connected paddocks?

2010-06-11 Thread John Smith
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=enq=Waubra+Victoria+3352,+Australiasll=-37.571029,143.851835sspn=0.013912,0.01929ie=UTF8cd=1geocode=FUPuxf0dV8aPCAsplit=0hq=hnear=Waubra+Victoria,+Australiat=hll=-37.326096,143.610835spn=0.009009,0.022638z=16 From:

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-11 Thread John Smith
On 11 June 2010 15:36, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I'm new to this digital photography thing, but I've photographed 7 different cavalettis and put them here: Thanks for going to so much effort, I was only expecting 1 or 2 shots of the same stile...

[talk-au] Google applies for Chinese map license

2010-06-11 Thread John Smith
BEIJING—New Chinese licensing rules for online mapping services could provide the first measure of the government's attitude toward Google Inc. since the Internet giant stopped operating its Chinese Web-search site in March. Under new rules issued last month by the State Bureau of Surveying and

Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 19:59, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 19:14:16 +1000 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone take giveway signs? If so what tags do you normally use? I don't. However, tagwatch shows highway=giveway on some nodes, similar

Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 June 2010 09:55, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 7:46 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: XAPI reports only 7 or 8 highway=giveway tags and I was wondering if there was something used more often. No idea, but FWIW wouldn't highway=give_way

Re: [talk-au] tagging giveway signs

2010-06-10 Thread John Smith
On 11 June 2010 11:45, Simon Biber simonbi...@yahoo.com.au wrote: My personal preference would have been to use give_way, since it follows the tradition of using British English as the source of tag names, but the majority of mappers so far have chosen yield. I've already shifted giveway to

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: barrier=cattle_grid cattle_grid=cavaletti What about: barrier=horse_grid They aren't cattle grids, and they aren't proper cavalettis either from what I've seen, cavalettis seem to be horse jumps these barriers aren't meant to be

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... And the americans call them horse hops... ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 17:29, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 9 June 2010 17:28, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Just found something, it seems the brits refer to them as horse stiles... like a turnstile but for horses... And the americans call them horse hops

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 20:04, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: well we should make one it may have limited use It'd be nice if there were some Australasian cartographers we could ask about these sorts of map design issues... ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
Looks like someone else was asking for the same things to be included already: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/New_barrier_types#other_new_values ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 06:49, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: I'm more than happy to go with barrier=horse_stile, given that established usage. I'll change the cavalettis I've already tagged, and look at putting a note on the map features page when I take some photos. Can someone get a picture

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 11:10, Jim Croft jim.cr...@gmail.com wrote: there is one near my place... will try and iPhone it this weekend... Thanks, in the mean time I wrote a stub page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhorse_stile ___ Talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Dean dd...@ieee.org wrote: Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. It might have been better to contact them privately about this before resorting to making a fuss publicly, I'm not sure of Nearmap's take on it but it'd great if

Re: [talk-au] Fwd: Community Notification- Services Relocation

2010-06-09 Thread John Smith
On 10 June 2010 15:52, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 3:03 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 June 2010 14:26, David Dean dd...@ieee.org wrote: Looks like NearMap or us need to talk to BrisConnections about attribution. It might have been

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 8 June 2010 16:09, Ben Last ben.l...@nearmap.com wrote: Without giving too much away, I'm letting you know that NearMap are looking at/working on adding support for some basic OSM editing operations to our website. We're doing this to more directly address some of the weaknesses of OSM; in

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 09:07, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: Do I put it on the main international wiki, or just the Australian one? Map features page, but first I'd come up with a better name, even wikipedia couldn't find anything related to the 2 keywords you list below Just to make things

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 09:22, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Dictionary.com had this: A small, portable jump for schooling horses. Constructed of light poles, 4 to 6 ft long, resting on a cross of timber at each end so that the pole is 12 to 18 inches above the ground. Sorry, wasn't

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 09:04, Franc Carter franc.car...@gmail.com wrote: One of the things I most wished for from my pre gps days was for maps to have turn restrictions marked. Is there a good way to do this without cluttering the map? These have real value and should be displayed prominently on a map

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
Best descriptive term I can think of is: barrier=horse_jump From the quick reading I did, and this picture: http://www.texashorsemansdirectory.com/cavalet.gif A cavaletti is only one type of horse jump, so: barrier=horse_jump horse_jump=cavaletti Might be more useful.

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 10:08, John Henderson snow...@gmx.com wrote: might be a little better. But I don't see the problem in applying the correct technical term to it up front. It's hardly more obscure than some correct is pretty subjective when it comes to these things, since most answers will be

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, could have been clearer. By integration, I meant asking the OSM developers to make some changes to make it easier, too. But yeah, if not possible, not possible. I have and didn't get much of a useful reply... It would be so

Re: [talk-au] NearMap support for OSM editing

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 11:28, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Some parts of the US are pretty crazy too. My favourite though is a scheme I saw in Dallas (and I'm sure exists elsewhere) where the numbers are independent of the street, and uniquely identify a house within some region. So a tiny

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 11:24, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I'd also like some basic surface information to be rendered. Dividing I previously filed a bug for surface=sand to render the same as natural=beach for exactly this reason: http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2873 the surface

Re: [talk-au] Things that would be nice if they rendered...

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 14:14, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: One thing Id like to see tagged in some way, is railway ends. These are tagged as railway=buffer_stop, but dont have any indication on the rendered map. This makes it difficult sometimes to know if a track ends at the node, or

Re: [talk-au] Another graphic use of OSM

2010-06-08 Thread John Smith
On 9 June 2010 15:22, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: At a guess, he has downloaded thousands of flickr images geotagged in that area, and has access to the registered location of the The reason it made OSM news was because he used, and correctly attributed, the base layer as being OSM

Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect

2010-06-07 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 15:41, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?colour=tablestyle=_default_osm_tagsarea=4687:0sort=total-show=key_values:8 I only just discovered ItoWorld, heh. I think Ross reported the other week about almost 100,000 objects in OSM

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 June 2010 12:22, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: When putting long rivers on the map eg Darling, Bidgee, Lachlan I routinely put the unsurveyed river at layer=-1 when i actually get there and find whether the road has a bridge, a punt or a ford to cross the road, then I do some changes to

Re: [talk-au] The nearmap effect

2010-06-07 Thread John Smith
On 8 June 2010 13:31, Neil Penman ianaf4...@yahoo.com wrote: Only the vast majority of these were not sourced from Nearmap (except in some of the country areas not previously covered by Yahoo). They may have been updated by somebody using nearmap imagery, mostly trivial changes, but they

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 11:05, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: These are not assumed and need to be added. Most bridges and tunnels could be assumed when there is water involved, I'm pretty sure someone, might have been Steve, brought this up on the tagging list a few months ago. At this point

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 13:31, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I had thought that the consensus was that layer tags *are* assumed, at least in cases like highway/bridge crossing river. While that may have been decided on a mailing list, I'm not sure if anyone updated the wiki to reflect it, or

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 14:32, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Incidentally: how do current renderers (principally mapnik and osmarender) currently behave? Are any of these assumed defaults actually implemented, or have I got my wires crossed? Mapnik usually renders roads on top of other

Re: [talk-au] Bridges and Tunnels

2010-06-06 Thread John Smith
On 7 June 2010 14:18, Ross Scanlon i...@4x4falcon.com wrote: The consensus may have been that all bridges and tunnels need to have a layer tag and that's what I'm looking at. I don't think the wiki was updated, then again consensus is limited to the group discussing it at the time.

[talk-au] Cheap EeePC

2010-06-04 Thread John Smith
There is a good deal going on a 10 touch screen EeePC: http://www.dailygizmo.com.au/ ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Planet file now at 10 GB

2010-06-04 Thread John Smith
The file is 9.3GiB -- Forwarded message -- From: Werner Hoch werner...@gmx.de Date: 4 June 2010 19:13 Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Planet file now at 10 GB To: t...@openstreetmap.org On Donnerstag, 3. Juni 2010, John Smith wrote: I'd still like to know the actual stats of users v

Re: [talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

2010-06-03 Thread John Smith
On 3 June 2010 17:36, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: Your email promted me to look on the back of my #701. It says, inter alia ... +9.5V DC 2.315A 22W. Certainly NOT a good idea to just connect it to a 12 volt battery. Power needs to be regulated , capable of at

[talk-au] Object ID Permenence

2010-06-03 Thread John Smith
Thanks to David and James (on this list) and Anthony from the main talk list for feedback, we've come up with a proposal on giving objects in the OSM DB one or more unique IDs which unlike regular OSM IDs can be shifted from nodes to areas as they are changed. This proposal will probably not have

[talk-au] China issues new rules on Internet map publishing

2010-06-02 Thread John Smith
BEIJING, May 19 -- An updated standard for Internet map servers will be implemented next month to avoid state secrets being disclosed and uncertified maps published online, authorities have said. The new standard issued by the State Bureau of Surveying and Mapping, one year after the first

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Thread John Smith
On 2 June 2010 20:59, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: I have in mind a project that involves making my old laptop into a large-screen GPS. Maybe someone on this list can refer me to where this has been mentioned before. My OS of choice is linux, but the laptop will

Re: [talk-au] Making a Laptop GPS

2010-06-02 Thread John Smith
On 2 June 2010 21:14, bened...@cortado.de wrote: I'm using Google Earth (data cashed via script) and my Garmin 60csx connected through GPSgate. The GE cache is limited to 2GB. That's not enough for whole NSW in high res, but for about 20x60km in highest detail level. Don't know if you are

Re: [talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

2010-06-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 June 2010 13:31, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Where is there a tutorial/howto/whatever for Navit. For me it comes up with a blank screen ... and no maps. I did attempt to download some maps for SE Australia ... so, how do I proceed from this point??

Re: [talk-au] Making a laptop Into a Big-Screen GPS (cont.)

2010-06-02 Thread John Smith
On 3 June 2010 14:00, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 June 2010 13:31, Eraina and Richard jenkins richardvk...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Where is there a tutorial/howto/whatever for Navit. For me it comes up with a blank screen ... and no maps. I did attempt to download

Re: [talk-au] Software goes on, brain goes off...

2010-05-31 Thread John Smith
On 1 June 2010 09:39, nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au wrote: Another article on the same topic, http://searchengineland.com/woman-follows-google-maps-walking-directions-gets-hit-sues-43212 I wonder if she's eligible for an honourable mention from the darwin awards?

[talk-au] Road restrictions

2010-05-30 Thread John Smith
There is a lot of places in Australia road trains and b-doubles are allowed or disallowed, but no one had documented any tags on the wiki for anything as big as a regular semi-trailer, let alone B-Doubles or Road Trains, Road trains aren't usually allowed on the east coast further east than the

Re: [talk-au] Road restrictions

2010-05-30 Thread John Smith
On 31 May 2010 11:55, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Cool, I think it makes sense to tag this kind of thing with australian-specific tags, as you have done. According to wikipedia they aren't specific to Australia, just the road legal ones are. OTOH, I wonder about the

[talk-au] High-Tech Burglars May Get Longer Sentences In Louisiana

2010-05-28 Thread John Smith
Hugh Pickens writes Burglars and terrorists should be careful not to use Google Maps if they plan on committing crimes in the state of Louisiana. Nola reports that a bill approved 89-0 by the Louisiana House will require that judges impose an additional minimum sentence of at least 10 years on

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-27 Thread John Smith
On 28 May 2010 15:07, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I came across one of these (Holmesglen TAFE, Moorabbin). Was I supposed to do anything more than move it to what appears to be the actual tower (nearmap) and remove the fixme:to_be_reviewed (or whatever) tag? Unless you have

[talk-au] US to spend $8bn upgrading GPS constellation

2010-05-26 Thread John Smith
The United States is about to give the now nearly ubiquitous Global Positioning System an $8 billion overhaul. The improvements, which involve replacing each of the 24 aging GPS satellites, are estimated to take over a decade to complete, and will see the triangulation margin of error decrease

Re: [talk-au] T-Shirts

2010-05-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 May 2010 19:39, Richard Colless fire...@ar.com.au wrote: You can also buy a special Iron-On Transfer paper at specialist paper supply shops, and print your own design, using any standard inkjet printer. Works really well, as long as you remember to mirror-reverse any text. Works out at a

Re: [talk-au] Australian Coastline

2010-05-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 May 2010 20:01, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: Are you able to explain how to check easily with JOSM if part of the coastline is missing? JOSM often complains too much about missing or lacking coastlines... With reading about all the rendering problems with coastline not being a

Re: [talk-au] Australian Coastline

2010-05-25 Thread John Smith
On 25 May 2010 20:28, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: You still haven't explained how to check the whole coastline is joined with JOSM. You mensioned JOSM has a validation checker that should be used for this kind of thing. Click to display the validation plugin panel or press Alt+Shift+V

Re: [talk-au] [Fwd:[OpenStreetMap] Tagging Tidal Ways]

2010-05-25 Thread John Smith
On 26 May 2010 03:07, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: I received this follow-up email to a query about some strange tagging. I thought it was worth throwing out there to get the lists opinion on the appropriate way to tag this road. In summary, it is 21km long and is one-way for

Re: [talk-au] [Fwd:[OpenStreetMap] Tagging Tidal Ways]

2010-05-25 Thread John Smith
On 26 May 2010 08:09, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 May 2010 03:07, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: I received this follow-up email to a query about some strange tagging. I thought it was worth throwing out there to get the lists opinion on the appropriate way

Re: [talk-au] Australian Coastline

2010-05-24 Thread John Smith
On 25 May 2010 09:28, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Because I don't understand What are the disadvantages of using a relation? relations that big often have side effects when software can't handle it, even the OSM website itself times out when trying to show big relations.

Re: [talk-au] T-Shirts

2010-05-23 Thread John Smith
On 23 May 2010 21:50, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: interested, I don't have any designs in mind, or any other planning. Thanks to Sam for pointing out this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tshirt_competition Also Harvey Norman via fujifilmimagine.com will do full colour

Re: [talk-au] Austalian Coastline

2010-05-23 Thread John Smith
On 24 May 2010 09:48, Markus marku...@bigpond.com wrote: I thought it was about time someone linked the Australian coastline to relations. Why do they need to be in a relation? I was amazed how many errors I needed to fix along the way including reversed coastline. You should now be seeing a

[talk-au] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available

2010-05-21 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com Date: 21 May 2010 20:36 Subject: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available To: osm t...@openstreetmap.org Cc: Pavel Tsekhotsky ptsekhot...@cogniance.com, Vladimir Agafonkin vagafon...@cloudmade.com Hi Guys,

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-21 Thread John Smith
On 22 May 2010 14:36, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: stick with it and be consistent. We should also make our tools as flexible as possible, to allow people to search both abbreviated and unabbreviated forms. Even to the extent that Saint Kilda should work, even though it's never

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-20 Thread John Smith
Have since uploaded these locations: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/4757013 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

Re: [talk-au] Service road only rendering the name but not the road

2010-05-20 Thread John Smith
On 21 May 2010 09:09, Christoph Donges cdon...@gmail.com wrote: I have been doing some work on Inglewood (Queensland) when I visit for work. I made some changes to 'Callandoon Lane' weeks ago but it's only showing the name but not the road. Have I done something wrong or is the a bug? The

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 May 2010 11:01, Brendan Morley morb@beagle.com.au wrote: Brisbane regularly have the street type abbreviated (ST, RD, MWY, ART) and I think it is better to record the in the field name as such. Even with accurate capitalisation. Think tourists who aren't familiar with the way we do

Re: [talk-au] General Observations.

2010-05-19 Thread John Smith
On 20 May 2010 12:12, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: abbreviations policy. It also means there's a couple of St . that I need to go back and fix to Saint .. Saint can be either St or Saint, eg St George shouldn't be expanded.

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
I've managed to convert most of the relevant information from the ACMA spread sheet and convert it to OSM format using nodes and relations, including start and end dates for temporary licenses. So the question now is what to do with the data, there is 2,152 locations and 7,633

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
Sorry forgot to attach a sample tower for comments on the tags I used. sample.osm Description: Binary data ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au

[talk-au] ga.gov.au website

2010-05-18 Thread John Smith
I was just on ga.gov.au and saw this notice on the bottom of the page: Unless otherwise noted, all Geoscience Australia material on this website is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.5 Australia Licence. http://www.ga.gov.au/geodesy/argn/

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] guide to spatial acronyms

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Ross Johnson ros...@hotmail.com Date: 17 May 2010 16:06 Subject: [Aust-NZ] guide to spatial acronyms To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org This is a handy guide for deciphering acronyms used in the spatial industry!

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 20:12, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: multiple transponders and transmitters is normal, isn't it? (puts on ham radio hat) Not always, think older AM radio mast installations, especially in rural areas... ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 08:04, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: around here every mast has heaps of transmitters tower space can be sold for good money a single transmitter on a tower is rare, unless we map these ones Maybe so, but the data the ACMA released only covers TV and radio stations, it

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 10:29, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: FF3 or Konqueror was enough to get a listing of the sites close to a given area despite a piece saying xml error They have a map, but I couldn't get it to work, just the XML errors in frames... ___

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] FW: Request to Participate in GEOSS Survey [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Bannerman b.banner...@bom.gov.au Date: 18 May 2010 11:21 Subject: [Aust-NZ] FW: Request to Participate in GEOSS Survey [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org aust...@lists.osgeo.org Fyi. This is a worthwhile survey if you get the time.

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-17 Thread John Smith
On 18 May 2010 13:00, Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: Relations should only be used for groups of objects in which each object may take on a specific role. Maybe so, but it's often the best way to tag things at present since you can't have duplicate keys, but in this case you are

[talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Thread John Smith
CC-by dataset just turned up: http://data.australia.gov.au/622 It seems pretty straight forward to convert this to .osm format, suitable for JOSM. However I'm after suggestions on how to deal with the .osm file(s). I'm leaning towards producing metro and non-metro data sets and bulk importing

[talk-au] Fwd: [Aust-NZ] The National Plan for Environmental Information [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

2010-05-16 Thread John Smith
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bruce Bannerman b.banner...@bom.gov.au Date: 17 May 2010 14:30 Subject: [Aust-NZ] The National Plan for Environmental Information [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED] To: aust...@lists.osgeo.org aust...@lists.osgeo.org fyi: http://www.environment.gov.au/npei/

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 15:27, Stephen Hope slh...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/basin%3Dinfiltration +1, waterway=drain according to current wiki doco only applied to ways ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Broadcast tower locations

2010-05-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 May 2010 15:07, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Is that because you're worried there will be a lot of duplicates with existing data in metro areas? Could you perhaps import it all, but Some people were upset at previous imports in metro areas.

Re: [talk-au] Tagging stormwater drain areas?

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
On 15 May 2010 16:27, Andrew Gregory and...@scss.com.au wrote: The best I can come up with is tagging a closed way with waterway=drain;area=yes. You shouldn't need to explicitly tag area=yes, you might want to add surface=grass though... ___ Talk-au

[talk-au] New gateway motorway bridge duplication

2010-05-15 Thread John Smith
It's been months now since a new section of the gateway motorway opened and it still hasn't appeared on their maps, and today, or tomorrow at the latest, the gateway motorway bridge opens to traffic. So I'm wondering if we should start a pool on how long before the bridge and other road works

Re: [talk-au] Ways incorrectly tagged as admin boundaries?

2010-05-14 Thread John Smith
On 14 May 2010 14:14, Balram Ramanathan balram.ramanat...@nearmap.com wrote: Hi, I've come across a handful of Ways with ABS data attributions that are (probably incorrectly) marked as administrative boundaries. They are: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/14191309

Re: [talk-au] Nominatim gives wrong suburb?

2010-05-13 Thread John Smith
Either the ABS boundaries might be wrong, or the boundary has moved since 2006, or where you think the boundary is, isn't where the ABS thinks it is, it's borderlineish though... http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=16ll=-27.517,153.028layer=B00TT ___

Re: [talk-au] Nominatim gives wrong suburb?

2010-05-13 Thread John Smith
On 13 May 2010 18:08, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: Either the ABS boundaries might be wrong, or the boundary has moved since 2006, or where you think the boundary is, isn't where the ABS thinks it is, it's borderlineish though... http://maps.bigtincan.com/?z=16ll

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