Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Warin
On 16/12/22 09:54, Phil Wyatt wrote: Thanks folks,  a consumer of EV chargers is unlikely to be using OSM as their primary source for charging information. Its more likely to be an app or in car service. I believe the apps also give information on 'out of service' chargers ... With a

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Andrew, I think that was the general idea behind this https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/pull/4985 Leave the name there and HOPE that folks add the extra details but in reality most folks didn’t (in Oz). Problem is, it is only implemented on selected EV charging_point

[talk-au] Blog post on NSW road surfaces based on OpenStreetMap data

2022-12-15 Thread Little Maps
Hi all, I’ve written a new blog post on sealed and unsealed roads in NSW. OpenStreetMap now has comprehensive coverage of road surface tags in NSW and the post provides lots of maps and tables to illustrate the patterns. Hope you enjoy it. Best wishes Ian

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 16 Dec 2022 at 08:58, Phil Wyatt wrote: > > > There are some well attributed chargers out there - > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7814409569/ > I'd question having the actual $ cost listed, rather than just fee=yes? We tag servo's as having 91, 98 & diesel, but we don't attempt to

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
Thanks folks, For me its also about the name suggestion index adding a default name to a limited set of chargers that is not unique. In some cases the ‘name’ it adds is the same as the operator and network which just seems superfluous. Below are some links to the issue. What I am looking

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Sebastian S.
Hi Phil, I think you are getting to the real question... So I did some checking and the charging invoice from Tesla does not give any REF or Name. It simply states the address. The map in the car and on the phone gives ' Tesla Supercharger Hollydene, NSW' in bold as the identification token

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Charles Gregory
Hi all, I just shared this on the community site so will share here for completeness: --- I think it depends on the type of charger. If it’s ABC Service Station or XYZ Hotel and they have a charger on their site, as an ancillary feature to their primary business, that they self own and manage, I

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
Hi Sebastian, I suppose for me it’s a question of should OSM hold a name which can be made from other attributes and does it fit with the name and charging wikis? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name Do tesla

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Sebastian S.
Hello all, As an EV driver I think that some charge stations have names. I do agree that 'Tesla Supercharger ' is not a name with much value. Tesla has names in their app for these charging stations, e.g. 'Tesla Supercharger Hollydene, NSW' or 'Tesla Supercharger Central Coast, NSW'. For the

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Simon Poole
See https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/SimonPoole/diary/397565 while amenity=charging_station is not the worst offender, it is still pretty bad https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index/blob/main/data/brands/amenity/charging_station.json Am 15.12.2022 um 04:20 schrieb Phil Wyatt: Hi

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Phil Wyatt
Thanks Warin, Its pretty obvious that most are not real names but actually descriptions or operators/networks and locations https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1p4N Cheers - Phil From: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, 15 December 2022 8:00 PM To: talk-au@openstreetmap.org

Re: [talk-au] 'Named' EV chargers

2022-12-15 Thread Warin
On 15/12/22 17:11, Ben Kelley wrote: My thoughts: I wouldn't remove the names. It's a big call to say that this thing definitely does not have a name, when someone else says it does, especially if 50% have a name. "Tesla supercharger" is not an individual name, probably a brand. And