Re: [OSM-talk-be] abandoned railways

2009-12-03 Thread Luc Van den Troost
Hi Lennard and the others. Perhaps you can explain how 'abandoned' and 'disused' SHOULD be interpreted in relation to the rendering rules. As far as I have seen, the wiki pages about railways do not mention this. If both should appear on the map, then probably 'historical tracks' that are no

Re: [OSM-talk-be] abandoned railways

2009-12-03 Thread Alain Empain
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:11:15 +0100, Luc Van den Troost wrote Hi Lennard and the others. (...) Historical items then might be mapped in a different way that is usefull for, for instance, a separate rendering or different layer. That would not only be the case for historical railway tracks,

Re: [OSM-talk-be] abandoned railways

2009-12-03 Thread Maarten Deen
On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 10:11:15 +0100, Luc Van den Troost luc.a...@gmail.com wrote: Another 'historical' point is that it is a pitty that OSM doesn't offer a kind of 'time-machine'. On one side it would be nice to see the growth of OSM that way, on the other side the map we are currently making

Re: [OSM-talk-be] abandoned railways

2009-12-03 Thread Lennard
Luc Van den Troost wrote: Perhaps you can explain how 'abandoned' and 'disused' SHOULD be interpreted in relation to the rendering rules. As far as I have seen, the wiki pages about railways do not mention this. I can only explain at the moment how these situations handled on the mapnik

Re: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page

2009-12-03 Thread Mike Harris
... Yes, fully agreed ... (and I wasn't being terribly serious as it was getting near time to go and open a bottle of foreign wine (;) and watch a movie). Although it may sometimes be useful to supplement the internationally applicable / useful with an indication of regional / national

[OSM-talk] CORINE Land Cover import in Estonia started

2009-12-03 Thread Margus Värton
Hi, I am glad to inform You that CORINE Land Cover data for Estonia is currently being imported. It takes some time and some manual or semi-manual intervention but in few days we should have much improved map data. Regards, - M - ___ talk

[OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
Can I draw some attention to this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Divided_road I was going to propose exactly the same thing, pretty much. Maybe I'd quibble with some of the naming. I find the current practice of duplicating minor roads when there is a median strip pretty

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread John Smith
2009/12/3 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I find the current practice of duplicating minor roads when there is a median strip pretty unsatisfactory. Even disregarding the effort, the end result never renders well: usually the street name is written twice, the one-way arrows get messy etc.

[OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: question about commercial use. import of data in OSM format

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Begin forwarded message: From: paul everett tap...@t-online.de Date: 3 December 2009 04:57:41 GMT To: legal-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org Subject: question about commercial use. import of data in OSM format Hi, I am a plugin developer, developing plugins for cinema4D. I am working on a

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Mann
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:39 AM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/3 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I find the current practice of duplicating minor roads when there is a median strip pretty unsatisfactory. Even disregarding the effort, the end result never renders

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Richard Mann That's a problem with the rendering, not with the mapping. Unless you want to write routines for pre-processing two almost-parallel ways back into a single way so it can be rendered neatly, I suggest it's a mapping problem. Don't make work for

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:17 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: That's a problem with the rendering, not with the mapping. Unless you want to write routines for pre-processing two almost-parallel ways back into a single way so it can be rendered neatly, I suggest

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
Sorry, one last example, also nearby: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-37.826282lon=144.947554zoom=18layers=B000FTF This mess might be much more understandable if pairs of lanes that were physically together were rendered as pairs (with a line between them), and those that were on separate

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Morten Kjeldgaard
On 03/12/2009, at 10.39, John Smith wrote: 2009/12/3 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: I find the current practice of duplicating minor roads when there is a median strip pretty unsatisfactory. Even disregarding the effort, the end result never renders well: usually the street name is

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
Ok, I've mocked up what it might look like. Complicated to show you though: 1) http://www.geowiki.com/halcyon/ 2) Lat: -37.821995 Lon: 144.919573 3) Add these lines to the of end of the big edit box: way[highway=service][!divider] { color: white; width: 3; casing-width: 5; }

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/3 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com Can I draw some attention to this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Divided_road I was going to propose exactly the same thing, pretty much. Maybe I'd quibble with some of the naming. I am also working on a proposal (let's

Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE Land Cover import in Estonia started

2009-12-03 Thread Joseph Reeves
That's great news Margus, thanks for letting us know! I'm always pleased to see more CORINE :) Cheers, Joseph 2009/12/3 Margus Värton mar...@dakar.ee: Hi, I am glad to inform You that CORINE Land Cover data for Estonia is currently being imported. It takes some time and some manual or

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: it allows to define things like: there is a kerb between the footway and the street, but on given nodes there is a lowered kerb to crossover. Yes, it's certainly quite expressive, at the cost of complexity - and

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
Oops, I also meant to point out a screenshot of my mockup: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Stevage_Divided_road.png (And an earlier version: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/archive/9/9e/20091203113817!Stevage_Divided_road.png ) Sorry for the spam. Steve

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Stevage_Divided_road.png If dividers are so small and do not create any turn restrictions, I just ignore them. But you are lucky to have a source which allow you to go so deep in

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/3 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: it allows to define things like: there is a kerb between the footway and the street, but on given nodes there is a lowered kerb to crossover. Yes, it's certainly

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
moved to proposal from user-space to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Area cheers, Martin ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 10:19 PM, Mike Collinson wrote: - Whether friendly or unfriendly, they never have any obligation to merge in their data improvements into our database. - However, you or I can. Does that make sense? I completely agree that they don't have to do anything towards merging

Re: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page

2009-12-03 Thread Barnett, Phillip
To be fair, 'village green' has an explicit definition in English law, which is presumably why whoever originally defined it put the word 'English' in. Agreed, that it doesn't have to be in a village, but can be in (or, indeed, outside) any sized population centre. See

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 10:19 PM, Ed Avis wrote: That was my interpretation too. It appears to me that if some well-meaning body released a set of data under the ODbL (which presumably we recommend as an appropriate licence for geodata) then the OSM project would not be able to use it. In other

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Nick Whitelegg
It's both, a rendering issue when the names are duplicated and a mapping issue about representing the turn restrictions. Note that It's a very old definition in OSM to say that we duplicate the ways when there is a physical division between the two ways (it's physically impossible to cross the

Re: [OSM-talk] New OpenStreetMap iPhone Editor - Mapzen POI Collector

2009-12-03 Thread Nick Black
On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Nick Black nickbla...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Guys, Mapzen POI Collector was released into the App Store this morning. Mapzen POI Collector is a free iPhone app that makes it really

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I find the current practice of duplicating minor roads when there is a median strip pretty unsatisfactory. I was thinking about this recently when we had the map everything as areas thread, and I have to agree with you to

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 12:40 AM, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: Agreed, while it's sensible for two ways in a dual carriageway, it seems OTT to have two ways for a road simply because it's got white lines down the middle. It seems to me to be introducing unnecessary

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I'm not sure how this would work without using areas, though.  And even then, it'll be complicated.  I think the proposal at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Divided_road is far too kludgy and temporary What do

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:40 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I'm not sure how this would work without using areas, though.  And even then, it'll be complicated.  I think the proposal at

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 3:14 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: It doesn't seem to be general enough, but instead as an incomplete lump of special cases. It covers the small, but salient, case of divided roads. Nothing more. We're just talking about one key here. So routers are going to have to

Re: [OSM-talk] Halcyon/MapCSS question

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/2 Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net You shouldn't need to add :area for it to render. :area just means only use this rule if the way is closed (i.e. start and end points are the same). So you might do: way [highway] [!junction] :area { fill-color: grey; } which would

Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE Land Cover import in Estonia started

2009-12-03 Thread Margus Värton
Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 08:47, Margus Värton mar...@dakar.ee wrote: I am glad to inform You that CORINE Land Cover data for Estonia is currently being imported. It takes some time and some manual or semi-manual intervention but in few days we should have much

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: I should also have asked whether the widths of the roads are accurately measured. Presumably we need to know the width of each road and the distance between them, at each point. But if you want to model the roads that

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Are there other downsides I'm missing? Oh yeah, I forgot to mention a big problem. Using forward/backward breaks when a way is reversed. So divider=u_turn_forward and divider=u_turn_backward are a bad idea.

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Lester Caine
Steve Bennett wrote: Why? Primarily as a landmark, I would think. The fact that there is a median strip is more important, relatively, than that there is a median strip which is 83cm wide, surfaced in terracotta pavers overgrown with moss... Anyway, to back up slightly here, the benefits of

Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE Land Cover import in Estonia started

2009-12-03 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/12/3 Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason ava...@gmail.com: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 08:47, Margus Värton mar...@dakar.ee wrote: I am glad to inform You that CORINE Land Cover data for Estonia is currently being imported. It takes some time and some manual or semi-manual intervention but in few days we

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: And I think that's eventually where we're going.  The distance between the centerlines is only part of the equation, but I wouldn't want to throw that information away.  This is all moot, however, because I now understand that you

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org Are there other downsides I'm missing? I think the biggest downside is that it creates two accepted ways to map the same thing. Even that, I suppose, is not a problem, if we make it clear that the old way, which contains more information, is preferable.

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/12/3 Anthony o...@inbox.org Are there other downsides I'm missing? I think the biggest downside is that it creates two accepted ways to map the same thing.  Even that, I suppose, is not a problem, if we

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Well, put it this way: if this was implemented, I would duplicate far fewer roads in future. If it worked (and I really haven't delved into the details enough to check), I might be convinced to add division information

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:46 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: I don't know. I read over the proposal again and I don't even get it, actually. Is the way supposed to be split before and after each intersection? Maybe I should write up the proposal as I see it, but all I'm proposing is:

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:54 AM, Anthony o...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Well, put it this way: if this was implemented, I would duplicate far fewer roads in future. If it worked (and I really haven't delved into the details

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
(Weird, did this email not get sent before - so many emails going back and forth. Oops.) On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: no, I think this is a big con: there are (and will always be) people who change the map to different schemes, sometimes

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: ie:      | =+=      | With junction=fourway or whatever at the +. fourway would be the only tag that's not ambiguous. Your junction was already solved properly by turn restrictions.

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Let's take this situation:        B        | A==C You're going from A to B. I'm saying that the router doesn't attempt to make the turn because the way A-C is marked as divided=median, and there's nothing

Re: [OSM-talk] Borders in the Persian Gulf

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/2 OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com so... do any of us know enough to mark this border on the OSM map? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/6712250/Wrong-maps-landed-British-sailors-in-Iranian-captivity.html http://osm.org/go/zDsi62-- let's ask the different

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - covered - Last Call

2009-12-03 Thread Randy
There have been no comments to the covered proposal since the first flurry. I'd like to move this to the Approved page if the group has no objection, so I'll allow another day for comments, and then move it to voting. Yes, I know there are those who are dead set against voting, but that's the

Re: [OSM-talk] Vegetation page

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/2 Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de Hi as an programmer my first bolean thoughts where An as a foreign national my thoughts were And I thought OSM was an international project... what does not mean you can't use features that appear only in some parts of the world. I never

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Fwd: question about commercial use. import of data in OSM format

2009-12-03 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
Begin forwarded message: From: paul everett tap...@t-online.de Date: 3 December 2009 04:57:41 GMT To: legal-talk-ow...@openstreetmap.org First of all, please subscribe to the legal@ mailing list in order to post questions. Emailing the list owner is awkward. I am a plugin developer,

Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE Land Cover import in Estonia started

2009-12-03 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 17:10, Margus Värton mar...@dakar.ee wrote: So my suggestion is to ask from Iceland's local environment agency or ministry. Actually I do not see much reason to reject Your proposal. We've already looked into doing that but every ministry in Iceland has an explicit

Re: [OSM-talk] CORINE Land Cover import in Estonia started

2009-12-03 Thread Margus Värton
andrzej zaborowski wrote: I'd have mentioned Estonia in the document if I knew about it, I only mentioned France, including a screenshot of how the attribution is displayed (requested by the lady...) In Estonia we have a requirement to tag data mentioning Corine Land Cover and version of

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-12-03 Thread Aleš Janda
Hi, OpenStreetMap mug is amazing! Do you plan to produce it also in bigger size? I think cca 0.5 l, some one like http://www.eshop-pro.cz/img/p/5830-8430-thickbox.jpg :-) Current mug is too small for common every-day use (at least for me) and it's pity but if bigger mug would be available, I

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread John Smith
2009/12/3 Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com: Unless you want to write routines for pre-processing two almost-parallel ways back into a single way so it can be rendered neatly, I suggest it's a mapping problem. Don't make work for other people if you don't have to. I thought

[OSM-talk] Utilities to analyze / report statistics / make neat maps based on GPX data

2009-12-03 Thread Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
I've recently been given access to daily per-day GPS dumps for a bunch of GPS devices. I'd like to produce some statistics from these GPX files on a daily basis, like how many kilometers each device traveled, charts per device / group of devices and so forth. Is there any GPX analysis software

Re: [OSM-talk] New OpenStreetMap iPhone Editor - Mapzen POI Collector

2009-12-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Nick, Nick Black wrote: Mapzen POI Collector is a free iPhone app that makes it really easy to collect POIs for OpenStreetMap. Users locate themselves using the iPhone's built in GPS, position a pin at the location of the POI they want to add and then choose from a range of pre-selected

[OSM-talk] putting Q150 survey marks on osm

2009-12-03 Thread nicholas . g . lawrence
Hello Mappers, It is Queensland's (Australia) 150th birthday, and to celebrate, the Surveying and Spatial Sciences Institute (SSSI) organised the placement of a number of commemorative permanent marks around the state. http://sssiq150.org/About-SSSI-Q150-Project.aspx These marks are part

Re: [OSM-talk] New OpenStreetMap iPhone Editor - Mapzen POI Collector

2009-12-03 Thread Grant Slater
2009/12/4 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Nick, I assume that the POI collector not only lets you collect new POIs but also modify existing ones. For this, the existing ones must be shown as active elements on the map that the device displays. Given that the OSM server proper is too slow

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] putting Q150 survey marks on osm

2009-12-03 Thread John Smith
2009/12/4 nicholas.g.lawre...@tmr.qld.gov.au: These marks are part tourist attraction, part survey control. Most are located where a car with an in-built GPS can drive right up to it, so the driver can check the accuracy of their GPS signal. The Gympie co-ords are wonky to say the least, it

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 64, Issue 20

2009-12-03 Thread Richard Bullock
2) There is a divided road that has been sketched out roughly, simply to indicate the division. (Very common, I think) Converting this to a simple divided=* tag doesn't lose information, and better indicates the actual level of information stored. Here's one that looks like 2):

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
Awesome, nice to finally get some proper criticism :) I'll write up the proposal as I see it. I think most of these comments are assuming that somehow a single divider=* tag is going to replace all split roads, including dual carriageway motorways etc. That's not what I'm suggesting. I like the

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread John Smith
2009/12/4 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Again, this proposal is not primarily about rendering. That's a nice benefit in some cases. The goals are: 1) More appropriate data structure How is this more appropriate, you are loosing real world information to improve rendering. 2) Better

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:28 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2009/12/4 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: Again, this proposal is not primarily about rendering. That's a nice benefit in some cases. The goals are: 1) More appropriate data structure How is this more

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided roads proposal

2009-12-03 Thread John Smith
2009/12/4 Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com: The main focus is *adding* information to roads currently mapped as single (non-divided) roads. Gaining information. Not losing. There are a huge number of places that this will add information that was not previously mapped. This opens up a can of

[Talk-in] server name

2009-12-03 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
Hi, I had mailed some people on the OSMF board with regard to getting the in.openstreet.org domain pointed to the Indian server, but they said that so far the OSMF has not taken a decision on subdomains. However they pointed out that a dot in domain with the openstreetmap word in it is not

Re: [Talk-in] server name

2009-12-03 Thread H.S.Rai
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 6:47 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: I had mailed some people on the OSMF board with regard to getting the in.openstreet.org domain pointed to the Indian server, but they said that so far the OSMF has not taken a decision on subdomains. We still would

Re: [Talk-in] server name

2009-12-03 Thread Guillaume Audirac
However they pointed out that a dot in domain with the openstreetmap word in it is not against OSM policies, and we are free to use it (as long as we stick with OSM data and licenses). By the way, regarding the license, I do not see the Creative-Common logo on the experimental map of India

Re: [Talk-it] Via vs via

2009-12-03 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il giorno 03 dicembre 2009 08.12, Roberto Moretti ilr...@gmail.com ha scritto: EdoM aveva anche scritto all'accademia della Crusca per sentire il loro parere. Ma non credo abbiano risposto. E invece sì che avevano risposte: tutte le scelte che abbiamo preso sono conformi a quanto suggerito

[Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Gian-Paolo Pallari
Ciao a tutti, negli ultimi giorni ho ricalcato alcuni dei layer WMS della regione Toscana basandomi sull'autorizzazione che hanno lasciato per e-mail a Federico Cozzi[1]. Ho iniziato correggendo i confini del mio comune che sulla base del dato Istat presentavano errori di centinaia di metri,

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/12/3 Gian-Paolo Pallari gianpaolo.pall...@gmail.com: - Perchè nessuno, almeno nella mia zona, usa questi layer? In attesa di un rilascio dei dati che ne permetterebbe l'importazione e quindi vanificherebbe il tempo speso per il ricalco? Ciao, sono quello che ha ottenuto l'autorizzazione

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Stefano Pallicca
- Perchè nessuno, almeno nella mia zona, usa questi layer? In attesa di un rilascio dei dati che ne permetterebbe l'importazione e quindi vanificherebbe il tempo speso per il ricalco? Io li uso, e anche parecchio :) Tuttavia spesso risultano non corretti, credo che certi livelli non siano

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Gian-Paolo Pallari
Ciao Federico, Il giorno 03 dicembre 2009 10.58, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2009/12/3 Gian-Paolo Pallari gianpaolo.pall...@gmail.com: Ciao, sono quello che ha ottenuto l'autorizzazione al ricalco. Se scorri tutta la discussione che il mio messaggio aveva originato,

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Gian-Paolo Pallari
Ciao Stefano, Il giorno 03 dicembre 2009 11.01, Stefano Pallicca palli...@gmail.com ha scritto: Io li uso, e anche parecchio :) Tuttavia spesso risultano non corretti, credo che certi livelli non siano molto aggiornati, cmq spesso bastano e avanzano. sicuramente non sono aggiornati, credo

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Stefano Salvador
Mi sembra di aver letto che in Josm c'è il modo di selezionare oggetti sovrapposti ma non ho trovato come. Premendo il tasto centrale del mouse (spesso è montato assieme alla rotellina). --- Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Stefano Pallicca
Il 03/12/2009 12:04, Stefano Salvador ha scritto: Mi sembra di aver letto che in Josm c'è il modo di selezionare oggetti sovrapposti ma non ho trovato come. Premendo il tasto centrale del mouse (spesso è montato assieme alla rotellina). Strabello!!! Non si finiscono mai di imparare

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread totera
Stefano Pallicca wrote: Un'altra domanda, che forse esula un po' dall'argomento, è come tracciare i confini che, ad esempio, coincidono come un fiume. Anch'io ieri mi sono messo a ritracciare i confini del mio comune, che avevano un errore spesso notevole rispetto ai dati presenti sul WMS.

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Alessandro Rubini
Nel caso di un fiume invece mi chiedo se, in caso di variazioni del corso, la cartografia dei confini venga variata di conseguenza. In questo caso la sovrapposizione su osm mi sembrerebbe corretta. Quando l'uomo decide di controllare il territorio, e` il fiume che deve smettere di cambiare

[Talk-it] It-box template

2009-12-03 Thread albertobonati
Sarebbe possibile modifucare il template per: - aggiungere testo oltre al titolo ed ai link - aggiungere icone ai vari link Lo farei io se sapessi come Mi piacerebbe anche sapere dove trovare queste info Ciao Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing

Re: [Talk-it] [semi-OT] guida escursionistica

2009-12-03 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
Ho visto che USGS offre un webservice che ti restituisce la quota a partire dalle coordinate. http://gisdata.usgs.gov/XMLWebServices/TNM_Elevation_Service.php ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

[Talk-it] gpsbabel+winZoz

2009-12-03 Thread Cristina Moretto
Scusate la domanda... c'e' qualcuno che usa gpsbabel da interfaccia su windows? -- Cristina Moretto more...@fbk.eu FBK - Fondazione Bruno Kessler FreeIT - Free Information Technology Via Sommarive, 18 - 38100 Povo (Trento), Italy http://www.fbk.eu/ +39 0461 314582 +39 338 7051131 Fax:+39 0461

Re: [Talk-it] [semi-OT] guida escursionistica

2009-12-03 Thread Matteo Gottardi
In data giovedì 03 dicembre 2009 14:54:44, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Ho visto che USGS offre un webservice che ti restituisce la quota a partire dalle coordinate. http://gisdata.usgs.gov/XMLWebServices/TNM_Elevation_Service.php Ho gia' risolto con i tiff srtm, comunque grazie :) Ho usato

Re: [Talk-it] gpsbabel+winZoz

2009-12-03 Thread albertobonati
Cristina Moretto ha scritto: Scusate la domanda... c'e' qualcuno che usa gpsbabel da interfaccia su windows? A me funzionama lo uso solo per tradurre files. Ciao Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-it] [semi-OT] guida escursionistica

2009-12-03 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
2009/12/3 Matteo Gottardi matg...@tin.it: In data giovedì 03 dicembre 2009 14:54:44, Maurizio Napolitano ha scritto: Ho visto che USGS offre un webservice che ti restituisce la quota a partire dalle coordinate. http://gisdata.usgs.gov/XMLWebServices/TNM_Elevation_Service.php Ho gia' risolto

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Carlo Stemberger
Il 03/12/2009 11:57, Gian-Paolo Pallari ha scritto: Mi piacerebbe sapere cosa accade al confine allo spostamento di un fiume Ad un confine comunale non so; so però che se hai una proprietà il cui confine è stabilito da un corso d'acqua, quello rimane anche e la sede del corso d'acqua cambia.

Re: [Talk-it] Ricalco WMS Toscana. Fino a dove spingersi?

2009-12-03 Thread Federico Cozzi
2009/12/3 Carlo Stemberger carlo.stember...@gmail.com: Mi piacerebbe sapere cosa accade al confine allo spostamento di un fiume Ad un confine comunale non so Penso che dipenda da come è stabilito il confine. Se il confine è lungo il fiume da qui a qui mi sembrerebbe ragionevole che si sposti

Re: [Talk-it] gpsbabel+winZoz

2009-12-03 Thread Cristina Moretto
Roberto Moretti wrote: Ciao, si, io uso la GUI su XP SP3. Lo uso per scaricare i dati sia del iblue 747 che del Garmin. Qualche info in particolare? si, cercavo di capire se con quella interfaccia si possono cancellare i dati presenti sul ricevitore gps... non mi ritrovo molto con quei

Re: [Talk-it] Voglio la tazza di OSM!!!

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/2 Fabri erfab...@gmail.com I costi di spedizione in Europa si aggirano intorno ai 10€ per una o due tazze. Quindi la vorrei comprare...unica cosa...alla registrazione sul sito, firefox mi avverte che il sito usa un certificato di sicurezza non valido e inaffidabile inquanto l'autorità

Re: [Talk-it] Importazione SIT Puglia - Call for contributions

2009-12-03 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2009/12/2 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com la forza del nostro progetto è la comunità. i dati non sono niente e non valgono nulla. sottoscrivo tutto quello che ha detto Simone. +1 - In FVG ho visto che avere gli edifici non è un ostacolo ai novellini, anzi è un aiuto +1

Re: [Talk-it] fiumi e torrenti

2009-12-03 Thread niubii
Stefano Salvador ha scritto: Ciao a tutti, sto cercando di capire come mappare correttamente i torrenti, cioè quei corsi d'acqua anche importanti che per la maggior parte del tempo sono in secca o quasi. Il problema in Friuli è particolarmente sentito in quanto i principali fiumi sono a

Re: [Talk-it] gpsbabel+winZoz

2009-12-03 Thread Roberto
Cristina Moretto ha scritto: si, cercavo di capire se con quella interfaccia si possono cancellare i dati presenti sul ricevitore gps... non mi ritrovo molto con quei bottoni... Si può. Nella parte Ingresso clicchi sul tasto che si trova a destra della scritta opzioni. Si apre una

[Talk-hr] samo dvojica rade?

2009-12-03 Thread Valent Turkovic
Ako je vjerovati unisima u hrvatskom dnevniku samo dvojica mappera nesto rade: http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary/hr -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the

Re: [Talk-hr] samo dvojica rade?

2009-12-03 Thread Željko Filipin
2009/12/3 Valent Turkovic valent.turko...@gmail.com Ako je vjerovati unisima u hrvatskom dnevniku samo dvojica mappera nesto rade Vjerojatnije samo dvojica pišu o tome. :) Ima ljudi koji se strgaju od posla, ali nisu blogerski tip. Mogu iz osobnog iskustva sa nedavnog zajedničkog mapiranja

[Talk-hr] Križevci jako dobro ucrtani na OSM kar ti

2009-12-03 Thread Valent Turkovic
Kada sam prije par mjeseci gledao Križevci su bili dosta slabo ucrtani na karti, a pogledajte sada: http://osm.org/go/0Iu1JR57-- Pohvale Dim-u (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/dim), koliko vidim on je glavni krivac za ovako dobru kartu. Ako je još netko radio na Križevcima javite se. Ako

Re: [Talk-hr] 1. mapping party - aftermath

2009-12-03 Thread Željko Filipin
2009/11/29 Dražen Odobašić dodoba...@gmail.com Toliko od mene, napišite dojmove... Ne znam prati li Marko ovu listu, ali očito je pisao o mapiranju u nedjelju, a nije ovdje javio. :) http://akuzativ.wordpress.com/2009/11/29/tumarati-s-neznancima/ Željko

Re: [Talk-hr] Označavanje cesta u HR....Pono vo po x-ti put.

2009-12-03 Thread hbogner
Marjan Vrban wrote: Evo malo sam uvatio vremena pa slažem ceste prema onoj birokratskoj shemi, za koju mislim da ju je prihvatila većina? Jel to izglasano ili šta da se wiki već sredi, i da imamo pravila kartiranja za RH. Evo mog prijedloga, može ići i u wiki ako se slažete: 1. primary -

Re: [Talk-hr] samo dvojica rade?

2009-12-03 Thread Marko Dimjasevic
On Četvrtak, 03. Prosinac 2009. 10:20:31 Valent Turkovic wrote: Ako je vjerovati unisima u hrvatskom dnevniku samo dvojica mappera nesto rade: http://www.openstreetmap.org/diary/hr Ako je ovo bio pokušaj nagovaranja na pisanje dnevnika na OSM-u, podržavam :) no naravno da ima više od dvoje

[talk-ph] Is Aurora province in region 3 or 4-A

2009-12-03 Thread maning sambale
I'm a bit confused, in the past Aurora is part of Quezon Province (hence Region 4), but Wikipedia says its part of region 3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_the_Philippines Can someone enlighten me. Thanks in advance. -- cheers, maning

Re: [talk-ph] Time for another mapping party?

2009-12-03 Thread maning sambale
Just a reminder, we will have a micro-mapping meetup on Saturday December 12, 2009. This event coincides with OSM's Christmas Party. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Christmas_Party_2009 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 1:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Let's mark this date!

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [Osmf-talk] New license proposal status II

2009-12-03 Thread James Livingston
On 03/12/2009, at 6:12 AM, Mike Collinson wrote: We have now fully updated the OSM Contributors agreement section of the main proposal. I hope that meets concerns about clarity of the change-over process. http://www.osmfoundation.org/images/3/3c/License_Proposal.pdf A while ago on the

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