Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-07-04 Thread Peter Miller
Apologies about being very late to respond to this issue. I did use the historic:railway=* tag for old railway for a period of time having come across it somewhere in the DB. It was good because it was possible to tag which sort of railway it was However... I now only use it in very particular

[Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread Richard Fairhurst
I've just been bitten by the minority, largely undocumented usage of railway:historic=rail on a bunch of dismantled/abandoned railways in Britain. Having exported some OSM data and done a few days' manual processing on it, I belatedly find that various lines are missing due to not taking

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread Lester Caine
Richard Fairhurst wrote: Taginfo/Taginfo GB suggest that railway:historic=rail is not used much elsewhere in the world, and that railway=abandoned, =disused and =dismantled remain the popular choices. No client software appears to take any notice of railway:historic=rail. Would there be any

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread Barnett, Phillip
] Sent: 13 May 2013 12:56 To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail) Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail . BR is unlikely ever to do that and the information is not visible on the ground, but it is available information. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL They certainly are unlikely ever to do that. Unless

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread sk53.osm
I don't think Richard's original post was an invitation to discuss arcane quirks of Britain's historical railway system. I have raised the issue of wholesale tag changing several times recently, and as this tagging is clearly not with the consensus of mappers either in the UK or elsewhere, I

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread Lester Caine
sk53.osm wrote: I don't think Richard's original post was an invitation to discuss arcane quirks of Britain's historical railway system. I have raised the issue of wholesale tag changing several times recently, and as this tagging is clearly not with the consensus of mappers either in the UK or

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic=rail

2013-05-13 Thread Andy Allan
On 13 May 2013 11:49, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Would there be any opposition to gradually reverting uses of this tag to railway=dismantled/abandoned, depending on what's on the ground? I don't oppose the change in principle, but we need to be clear what you intend for all

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-06 Thread Kev js1982
I've noticed a stack of stations showing up on the map recently labelled VillageName Station which just seams wrong and to have them show up on the default rendering seams even more wrong. They are tagged railway=station; disused=yes e.g. Widmerpool Station http://osm.org/go/eu8kWOCCe-- Plumtree

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-06 Thread Andy Allan
On 6 July 2012 21:43, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote: I've noticed a stack of stations showing up on the map recently labelled VillageName Station which just seams wrong and to have them show up on the default rendering seams even more wrong. They are tagged railway=station;

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-06 Thread Kev js1982
Done - I now remember where I first saw them jumping out at me! On 6 July 2012 21:49, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 July 2012 21:43, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote: I've noticed a stack of stations showing up on the map recently labelled VillageName Station which just

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-04 Thread Craig Loftus
However, there are also instances of highway=no, where roads have been realigned or ripped up, should these also be removed from the database? I think highway=no is typically used as a temporary tag to try to stop remote mappers from adding something from a source that is not up to date. In

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-04 Thread Peter Miller
On 4 July 2012 09:39, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: However, there are also instances of highway=no, where roads have been realigned or ripped up, should these also be removed from the database? I think highway=no is typically used as a temporary tag to try to stop

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-04 Thread Donald Noble
On 4 July 2012 09:39, Craig Loftus craigloftus+...@googlemail.com wrote: I think highway=no is typically used as a temporary tag to try to stop remote mappers from adding something from a source that is not up to date. … However, what is the argument for keeping connections between

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 July 2012 15:00, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com wrote: Responding to comments below. Use of railway=abandoned for lines across housing estates is definitely wrong. Some suggest railway=dismantled, some remove them. Leaving aside other issues; these terms are confusing, and seem

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-02 Thread Chris Hill
)  but this is not a historic document. Cheers Jason W (UniEagle) -Original Message- From: Dave F. Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 10:49 PM To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags On 30/06/2012 15:11, SomeoneElse wrote: Obviously mapping

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-02 Thread Peter Miller
On 1 July 2012 22:49, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 30/06/2012 15:11, SomeoneElse wrote: Obviously mapping things that aren't there any more is a bigger issue Has there been discussion about this outside talk:railway? If there hasn't I'm a bit annoyed that a niche user

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-02 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Peter Miller wrote:  I started using railway:historic=xxx in place of railway=dismantled for cycletracks etc in response to a comment through OSM messaging that one editor had found it confusing to suddenly have cyclepaths being rendered as railways in Potlatch due the railway=xxx tag

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-07-02 Thread Shaun McDonald
On 2 Jul 2012, at 16:19, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Miller wrote:  I started using railway:historic=xxx in place of railway=dismantled for cycletracks etc in response to a comment through OSM messaging that one editor had found it confusing to suddenly have cyclepaths being rendered

[Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-06-30 Thread SomeoneElse
I've noticed a few of these popping up recently, e.g.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/168528933 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/77277743/history and http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/77277743/histor http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/77277743/historyy

Re: [Talk-GB] railway:historic = rail tags

2012-06-30 Thread Philip Barnes
I had spotted some of these, same mapper, near Whitchurch, and must admit it has concerned me as previously it had shown on the map as a tracked. It is still visible on the ground, but now not visible on the map. This seems wrong to me, my feeling it should be reverted. Was going to contract the