Re: [Talk-it] relazione per linea autobus e rotonde

2016-07-10 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni
Per me l'ordine bus_stop nella relazione é importante, anche se per la circolare inizi a caso. Non tanto per osm, ma per le applicazioni di transito che ne usano i dati. -- cascafico.altervista.org twitter.com/cascafico Il 10/lug/2016 12:22 "Aury88" ha scritto: > altri

Re: [Talk-it] relazione per linea autobus e rotonde

2016-07-10 Per discussione Aury88
ma l'ordine riferito ad altri elementi con lo steso ruolo (stop o platform) o è un ordine che deve tenere conto anche degli altri ruoli? devo mettere le fermate tra una way e l'altra nella lista degli elementi appartenenti alla relazione o posso semplicemente elencare alla fine (in ordine) tutte

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione mappa OpenStreetMap sul sito

2016-07-10 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 09 lug 2016, alle ore 13:01, Andrea Lattmann > ha scritto: > > Mi permetto un consiglio, fai un whois del dominio e scrivi al responsabile > del sito/società: questo di solito "smuove" ;-) purtroppo oramai tanti si nascondono dietro

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione

2016-07-10 Per discussione girarsi_liste
Il 05/07/2016 21:43, Alessandro Palmas ha scritto: > > Affrontiamo una volta per tutte il problema visto che ciclicamente > ritorna il discorso della mancata attribuzione. > > Prendendo spunto dalla tua lettera l'avrei modificata rendendola > leggermente più diretta e in uno stile non da

Re: [Talk-it] Violazione copyright

2016-07-10 Per discussione Cascafico Giovanni
Mah. Tra sostanziale e non sostanziale, village e town, zone sparsamente popolate (quanto?) e poi questi numeri arbitrari (in base 10) di 100 elementi e 1000 abitanti, mi pare si aggiunga ulteriore confusione. Se l'intento vuole essere di liberare dalle preoccupazioni gli utenti occasionali, mi

Re: [Talk-it] relazione per linea autobus e rotonde

2016-07-10 Per discussione Aury88
altri dubbi: vorrei inserire anche le fermate e per questi ci sono i due ruoli stop e platform. da quello che ho capito stop dovrebbe essere un punto lungo la highway che compone la rotta (e dovrebbe corrispondere al public_transport=stop_position) mentre platform (che dovrebbe essere

Re: [Talk-it] Violazione copyright

2016-07-10 Per discussione Volker Schmidt
Mi sembra che la discussione su "substantial" si riferisce alla ODBL e riguarda la soglia oltre la quale prodotti derivati devono essere mess sotto la stessa licenza. Nel caso nostro si tratta dell'uso delle tiles, che sono sotto CC BY-SA. Richiede l'attribuzione. Vedi

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione tuxayo
On 10/07/2016 23:26, Éric Gillet wrote: > [...] > However, another distinct set of rules is also being enforced by the DWG > : the Automated edits code of conduct > (AECoC). > > In contrary to the Contributor Terms, these rules

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/10/2016 11:26 PM, Éric Gillet wrote: > However, another distinct set of rules is also being enforced by the DWG > : the Automated edits code of conduct This whole discussion seems to have its origin in this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/27888534 Where - for the

Re: [Talk-is] Hvernig fá betri nákvæmni með GPS (tiltölulega ódýrt)

2016-07-10 Per discussione Jóhannes Birgir Jensson
Ég er með Garmin Virb Elite, action cam með Garmin GPS innbyggðu (munurinn á Virb og Virb Elite er GPSið). Það gefur mér GPX skrá (ef ég er að nota video) eða GPS-taggaðar ljósmyndir (ef ekki video). Það er hægt að tengja það við gemsann en eiginlega bara í þá átt að síminn stjórni

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Éric Gillet
Hi Michael, 2016-07-11 0:08 GMT+02:00 Michael Reichert : > Hi Éric, > > Am 10.07.2016 um 23:26 schrieb Éric Gillet: > > In contrary to the Contributor Terms, these rules : > >- Are not shown to new contributors > > It is shown to new contributors, not directly but they get

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Eugene Alvin Villar
On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Éric Gillet wrote: > Hello, > > OSM contributions must follow the Contributor Terms > ; these > therms are being shown to new users and they must explicitely accept them >

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione mappa OpenStreetMap sul sito

2016-07-10 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 10 lug 2016, alle ore 16:01, Andrea Lattmann > ha scritto: > > Voglio vedere se non fanno qualche cosa. sono obbligati, ma è infatti la linea dura, se si riesce ad alzare meno polvere sarebbe meglio ;-) Però nel caso di OSM non si

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Hakuch
On 10.07.2016 23:26, Éric Gillet wrote: > If it were to, I think it should be put to an higher set of standards than > the changeset it aims to direct. For example it could be audited with an > RFC, then a vote, and finally being explicitely accepted by contributors. > > What are your thoughts ?

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Matthijs Melissen
On 11 July 2016 at 01:08, Frederik Ramm wrote: > The automated edits code of conduct is there for a reason; had user > Test360 complied with it, then his edit would likely not have been > faulty My main issue with the AEcoc is that it is nearly impossible to comply with,

Re: [Talk-it] Tag religious_rank=abbey/archabbey

2016-07-10 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 09 lug 2016, alle ore 23:22, girarsi_liste > ha scritto: > > Quindi chiedo chiarezza a riguardo questo tag, sta a significare che è > presente un abate/badessa? o cos'altro? si, abate o arciabate, da aggiungere ai sito delle comunità

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione mappa OpenStreetMap sul sito

2016-07-10 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 10 lug 2016, alle ore 22:35, Cristian Consonni > ha scritto: > > io non voglio vivere > in un mondo in cui si finisce in tribunale "direttamente e senza > passare dal via" per una violazione di copyright. Personalmente > preferirei un

Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/2016 02:02 AM, Éric Gillet wrote: > If you do a search-and-replace on 20 elements and review manually the > change, it is covered under the AE CoC. No, the document clearly states in the "Scope" section: "use of find-and-replace functionality using a standard editor such as JOSM or

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Michael Reichert
Hi Éric, Am 10.07.2016 um 23:26 schrieb Éric Gillet: > OSM contributions must follow the Contributor Terms > ; these > therms are being shown to new users and they must explicitely accept them > before they can start contributing. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Matthijs Melissen
On 10 July 2016 at 23:26, Éric Gillet wrote: > What are your thoughts ? I fully agree with all your points. I think a wider community discussion on the current guidelines is necessary. -- Matthijs ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/11/2016 01:23 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: > My main issue with the AEcoc is that it is nearly impossible to comply > with, especially the part that says that community consensus is > necessary (or rather, "said", because this requirement seems to have > been silently removed). Which

[OSM-talk] Fwd: Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Éric Gillet
2016-07-10 23:56 GMT+02:00 Christoph Hormann : > On Sunday 10 July 2016, Éric Gillet wrote: > > > > In contrary to the Contributor Terms, these rules : > > > >- Are not shown to new contributors > >- Are not accepted by new or existing contributors > > Maybe that is

Re: [OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 10 July 2016, Éric Gillet wrote: > > In contrary to the Contributor Terms, these rules : > >- Are not shown to new contributors >- Are not accepted by new or existing contributors Maybe that is because they don't apply to the vast majority of contributors. You don't need to

Re: [Talk-it] relazione per linea autobus e rotonde

2016-07-10 Per discussione Aury88
ok, ho guardato qualche relazione è ho visto che basta che siano tra loro in ordine tutti gli stop o le platform... vedo che lo stop è posto sia sulla way sia fuori e comunque non bisogna tagliare le way. noto anche che i nodi con ruolo stop alcune volte anno anche tag

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione mappa OpenStreetMap sul sito

2016-07-10 Per discussione Cristian Consonni
Ciao, Il 10 luglio 2016 21:28, Martin Koppenhoefer ha scritto: > Però nel caso di OSM non si fa proprio mai niente, a prescindere di scrivere > lettere, oppure avete mai sentito di un processo o simile? Possibile che > tutti quelli che infrangono poi smettono? La policy

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione mappa OpenStreetMap sul sito

2016-07-10 Per discussione Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2016-07-10 at 22:35:46 +0200, Cristian Consonni wrote: > Personalmente > preferirei un mondo con "un po' meno copyright" quindi non è questione > di linea dura o meno, è questione del fatto che io voglio che il > copyright sia rispettato, ma non penso che bisogna intervenire con la > scure. e

[OSM-talk] Automated edits code of conduct

2016-07-10 Per discussione Éric Gillet
Hello, OSM contributions must follow the Contributor Terms ; these therms are being shown to new users and they must explicitely accept them before they can start contributing. However, another distinct set of rules is also being

Re: [Talk-it] Mancata attribuzione mappa OpenStreetMap sul sito

2016-07-10 Per discussione Andrea Lattmann
>quasi quasi sarebbe da spegnerli il sito direttamente via DCMA takedown >;-) Bravo Martin! Per chi non vuole ascoltare si può comunicare al provider che il loro cliente viola il copyright. Voglio vedere se non fanno qualche cosa. Al max si segnala anche provider al nicit ;-) Grazie per il

Re: [Talk-de] Akkus für den Garmin

2016-07-10 Per discussione Jannis Achstetter
Hallo Michael, > Vor fünf Jahren, als ich meinen Garmin Dakota 20 gekauft habe, habe > ich für ihn vier Sanyo Eneloop XX gekauft. > https://www.amazon.de/Sanyo-eneloop-Mignon-rechargeable-battery/dp/B004D > W7S06/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=opensde-21=1468091800=8-1=B > 004DW7S06 > [2] (Preis damals bei

Re: [talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-10 Per discussione Reuben
On 10/07/16 14:06, cleary wrote: Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet is not sufficient and therefore we cannot use PSMA datasets in OSM. As far as I can ascertain, the lines on the Contributors page of the wiki, referring to

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Lot Talk-fr, Vol 120, Parution 27

2016-07-10 Per discussione Francescu GAROBY
Bonjour, Concernant les old_*, je ne les mets que dans 2 cas : * le changement est tout récent, donc je mets l'ancienne valeur dans un tag old_*, en espérant que Nominatim sache chercher dedans. * l'ancienne valeur apparaît encore sur le terrain (c'est le cas de certaines rues, où un panneau

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Per discussione Richard Fairhurst
Greg Troxel wrote: > When converting to garmin format with mkgmap, and I think with osmand, > I will tend to hear both the name and the ref. That's a big lengthy, but > there's no real pattern on which to leave out. For cycle.travel's directions in the US, I've started post-processing the name

[OSM-ja] Join State of the Map Asia October 1-2, 2016 in Manila, Philippines

2016-07-10 Per discussione maning sambale
Dear everyone, [crosspost] We are happy to announce that the 2nd State of the Map Asia will happen in Manila, Philippines on October 1-2, 2016. Two days in the Philippines with talks, discussions, and workshops all around the free and open map of the world. This is a free event (no registration

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Per discussione Paul Johnson
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 5:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > Greg Troxel wrote: > > When converting to garmin format with mkgmap, and I think with osmand, > > I will tend to hear both the name and the ref. That's a big lengthy, but > > there's no real pattern on which to

Re: [Talk-cz] Říční kilometry

2016-07-10 Per discussione Michal Pustějovský
Ahoj, waterway=milestone, viz http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Dmilestone Michal Dne 09.07.2016 v 23:52 Jan Dudík napsal(a): Dne 6. července 2016 10:57 Karel Volný > napsal(a): - mimochodem, je-li řeč o záchranných kruzích,

[OSM-talk-fr] TLPE et OSM : coment la publicité extérieure aide à compléter OSM !

2016-07-10 Per discussione Pierre Touzard
Bonjour à tous, Dans le carde de la mise en œuvre de la Taxe Locale sur la Publicité Extérieure (TLPE), nous (SOGEFI) réalisons pour le compte de collectivités des inventaires exhaustifs des supports publicitaires présents sur leur territoire. Trois types de supports sont ainsi relevés et

[Talk-lt] Reikia validatorių: Tanzanijos mapinimas

2016-07-10 Per discussione Egle Marija Ramanauskaite
Sveiki, Su Crowd2Map projektu toliau po truputį mappiname Mara regioną Tanzanijoje - HOT task #1788 . Esame užsibrėžę iki

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] MAPS.ME combining OSM data and non-OSM data?

2016-07-10 Per discussione Christoph Hormann
On Sunday 10 July 2016, Ilya Zverev wrote: > > Let's consider another use case. An application that shows OSM map, > and on top of it shows 1 mln of user points. A users has an option to > hide the OSM map underneath proprietary points, with a radius of 1 > km. Does in that moment when a user

Re: [Talk-de] Akkus für den Garmin

2016-07-10 Per discussione Carsten Schwede
Hallo, ich hatte auch lange die XX im Einsatz (Oregon 600), dise ließen aber auch dann nach einigen Jahren Dauernutzung (mind. 5 Tage diw Woche 1 Stunde, ca. 1x die Woche geladen) nach. Ich habe jetzt die Nachfolger Im Einsatz, Eneloop Pro, 2500mAh. Diese halten wieder sehr gut, man merkt

[Talk-br] #RioOlympicsMapping: problemas a pensar solução viável

2016-07-10 Per discussione Sérgio V .
Boa noite pessoal. Sobretudo para os que entendem mais de análise e programação e que quiserem/puderem colaborar em encontrar uma solução, mas para todos envolvidos ou interessados também: No andamento da importação de prédios no Rio

Re: [Talk-ar] estaciones de servicio en una ruta

2016-07-10 Per discussione Matias Montroull
Si eso es una opción pero no te confies porque si te jugas en algun tramo largo a llegar a una est de servicio para cargar y por esas casualidades no tienen combustibles estas en problemas.. Para esos viajes donde tenes est de serv en tramos largos mi recomendación es q cargues donde puedas asi

Re: [Talk-us] Map spam

2016-07-10 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/10/2016 09:45 PM, Mike N wrote: > I have seen a number of these - at first there was some app generating > invalid OSM tags, but excellent geolocation (to OSM standards, center of > main business building). Side note on "we place you on the map" businesses - they often don't have

[Talk-GB] shop=sports and sport=* rather than shop=sport and sports=*

2016-07-10 Per discussione Warin
Hi, Apparently 'someonelese' wants local discussion on this. There is documented discussion on the wiki that puts the case and I don't feel the need to repeat it here. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dsports I think using the sport=* tag means you have the same tag for both

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag 'network' et 'name' pour une relation de type route départementale

2016-07-10 Per discussione François Lacombe
Bonsoir JB Le 10 juillet 2016 à 20:40, JB a écrit : > > TLDR : mauvaise foi ou aveuglement ? De moi, ou des autres ? > Ni l'un ni l'autre, on est juste pas d'accord sur certaines idées. On devrait arriver à s'en remettre, tu ne crois pas ? Chacun a bien donné son point de

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] August Meetup

2016-07-10 Per discussione Brian Prangle
Hi everyone Which Saturady is best for everyone? I can't make 13th, all the rest are OK. Remember we're going to Pershore to map as much of WR10 as possible for mappa mercia's 10th anniversary. Perhaps we should make the whole of August a local mini-project for WR10? Regards Brian

[Talk-gb-westmidlands] FW: [Talk-GB] Night Time Aerial Imagery?!?

2016-07-10 Per discussione Andy Robinson
-Original Message- From: Grant Slater [mailto:openstreet...@firefishy.com] Sent: 10 July 2016 22:45 To: osm-gb Subject: [Talk-GB] Night Time Aerial Imagery?!? Hi OSM-GB, The Environment Agency recently release a massive trove of Open Data, which I am slowly started to process. One

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag 'network' et 'name' pour une relation de type route départementale

2016-07-10 Per discussione Jérôme Amagat
la relation que l'on voit là : http://scigrid.de/posts/2015-Jul-02_power-relations-in-openstreetmap.html ça ressemble beaucoup aux relations utilisées pour matérialiser une ligne de bus ou plutôt une ligne de metro (peu d'intercection), il y a des arrêts, les substastions et des morceaux de route

Re: [talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-10 Per discussione cleary
Reuben. Thanks for your response and clarification. Hopefully your request to Queensland Government Department will be fruitful. On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, at 04:18 PM, Reuben wrote: > > On 10/07/16 14:06, cleary wrote: > > Feedback from the legal-talk list is that the reply from the Department > >

Re: [talk-au] Response regarding use of PSMA Administrative Boundaries (Australia)

2016-07-10 Per discussione Andrew Davidson
Just a gentle reminder that there is a list of steps that you have to go through before you start importing data into OSM*: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines *Yeap I realise I'm being a terrible hypocrite here. I think we managed to achieve two out of the five steps

[Talk-us] Map spam

2016-07-10 Per discussione Jack Burke
Is anyone else starting to see map spam popping up in their areas? Over the past few months, I've seen 3 OSM entries that I'm calling map spam for lack of a better term. I know that doesn't seem like a lot, but it could be a new trend. Specifically, what I'm finding is a well-formed node for a

Re: [Talk-us] Map spam

2016-07-10 Per discussione OSM Volunteer stevea
> Circa 07/10/2016 08:28 PM, Jack Burke and Frederik Ramm > wrote: >> Is anyone else starting to see map spam popping up in their areas? and > DWG here. We see lots, but not to a degree that would concern us. Thank you to Jack for bringing this up and

Re: [Talk-de] Skandal! Skulptur im Park ohne rollstuhlgerechte Toilette!

2016-07-10 Per discussione Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > Il giorno 09 lug 2016, alle ore 23:52, Tom Pfeifer > ha scritto: > > insbesondere da der fehlerhafte > Key nun auch von anderen Mappern übernommen wird. dann ist es nach der OSM Theorie nicht mehr fehlerhaft sondern lediglich eine alternative

[Talk-de] Doppelte Gebäude

2016-07-10 Per discussione Heinz-Jürgen Oertel
Hallo Im polnischen Bronków (31810418) Location: 51.96207, 15.00445 sind viele Gebäude doppelt an genau der gleichen Stelle eingetragen. Wahrscheinlich durch einen Import user:rowers2 obrysy budynków "importowane" z GUGIK Quelle: geoportal.gov.pl: WMS budynki, WMS orto, WMS ISOK_CiEŃ

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag 'network' et 'name' pour une relation de type route départementale

2016-07-10 Per discussione François Lacombe
Bonsoir à tous, Le 7 juillet 2016 à 01:22, Christian Quest a écrit : > Pour ça on a : > - ref pour le Axx > - int_ref pour le Exx > Ok Mouais... pour le changement vu qu'on a de très fortes chances que la > relation soit cassée quelque part, il sera toujours

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag 'network' et 'name' pour une relation de type route départementale

2016-07-10 Per discussione osm . sanspourriel
Le 10/07/2016 à 20:40, JB - jb...@mailoo.org a écrit : Aller, c'était bien trop long pour ce soir, je vais dormir dessus et ne pas reparler des autres sujets abordés qui m'ont aussi fait sauter au plafond. Oui, KISS ou vous finirez par ne plus pouvoir recruter de contributeurs dans le projet,

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Per discussione Paul Johnson
I think this would be great for point-based data in order to help others properly determine the correct name=* tag. However, given the circumstances, I tend to also use source:name or name:source (not sure which is correct) citing the state law renaming the road, since that's verifable and

Re: [Talk-us] Map spam

2016-07-10 Per discussione Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/10/2016 08:28 PM, Jack Burke wrote: > Is anyone else starting to see map spam popping up in their areas? DWG here. We see lots, but not to a degree that would concern us. Occasionally individual IP numbers from Asia were blocked for signups because they would create account after

[Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Per discussione Kevin Morgan
Here is an idea. An additional tag is added called signage. The tag use the following format name;ref;text. Each item is added to the tag if the information is in clued on road signs. The tag has the following sub tags color, icon, description, direction and text. The text sub tag is used to add

Re: [Talk-us] Common names of highways do not match road signs.

2016-07-10 Per discussione Shawn K. Quinn
On Sun, 2016-07-10 at 12:07 -0400, Kevin Morgan wrote: > Here is an idea. An additional tag is added called signage. The tag > use the following format name;ref;text. Each item is added to the tag > if the information is in clued on road signs. The tag has the > following sub tags color, icon,

[Talk-GB] Night Time Aerial Imagery?!?

2016-07-10 Per discussione Grant Slater
Hi OSM-GB, The Environment Agency recently release a massive trove of Open Data, which I am slowly started to process. One of the smaller and quicker to process datasets is the Night Time aerial imagery which I've now tiled and put online here: http://ea.openstreetmap.org.uk/ Birmingham:

Re: [Talk-us] Map spam

2016-07-10 Per discussione Mike N
On 7/10/2016 3:30 PM, OSM Volunteer stevea wrote: It is just not that big of a problem. I am weirdly impressed by the odd combination of "quite well-formed data tagging, yet I can still (nearly always) determine that the node is spam." In other words, they are trying hard to fly in under our

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Tag 'network' et 'name' pour une relation de type route départementale

2016-07-10 Per discussione JB
Le 10/07/2016 à 19:23, François Lacombe a écrit : Oui, c'est pour ça que j'ai donné l'exemple... les relations se cassent très facilement et si on ne jardine pas en permanence se baser uniquement dessus n'est malheureusement pas fiable. Il y a pourtant tous les contours de