Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Viewer for Linux/Gtk available

2009-05-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Your free to contribute ideas or code that should be integrated. It's implemented in C using gtk, glib, libcurl, libnpng libwebkit. It would be nice to have a separate source tarball and binaries. You said 'for linux', but I'd hope that this would run on any reasonable mostly-posix system.

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-20 Thread Greg Troxel
In my part of Australia, we have a speed limit that applies to every non-rural street that is not specifically signed as being another speed - basically case (b) below. The wording used in the law is built up area. (In practice, the test for a built up area seems to be does it have

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-20 Thread Greg Troxel
I find this talk of overlapping polygons a bit boggling. Things seem far simpler: roads with an explicit speed tag use that tag. This represents the situation where the road has a sign and that's been entered. roads in a city center polygon that don't have a tag inherit from the

Re: [OSM-talk] zones for motorway/in town/outof town?

2009-05-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk writes: So as long as exception roads have speed tags, what's the problem? None as far as I can see, but by the time you've checked every road in the zone to see whether it is an exception, and presumably tagged it as checked so other mappers know it has been

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-28 Thread Greg Troxel
I'd agree that service isn't quite right, if that's the front of the buildings. But similarly residential isn't right either (I guess we all think of that as something with pavements/sidewalks). residential doesn't imply sidewalks in my area So is there any objection to

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag small city alley ?

2009-05-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Isn't that highway=pedestrian exactly? As for cars I think it might be a physical impossibility rather than permitted / not permitted. (But for routing purposes it's just the same.) I suppose it is, except that really it's highway=motorcycle. My real point was that the whole 'highway'

Re: [OSM-talk] LV region border import

2009-05-31 Thread Greg Troxel
My main concern is should I import data as is or optimize this data as they are quite detailed? Also each region border is one separate polygon. Should I merge neighbour region nodes and import seperate border lines or again should I leave data as is? While out riding just now I crossed

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-21 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/21 Milo van der Linden m...@opengeo.nl: May I suggest looking at what people at the CORINE landcover dataset have defined? http://www.eea.europa.eu/publications/COR0-landcover/at_download/file they have a nomenclature describing a

Re: [OSM-talk] Do we care if its forest or wood? Natural world mapping ...

2009-07-22 Thread Greg Troxel
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Greg Troxelg...@ir.bbn.com wrote: yes, land_use=forestry perhaps implies land_cover=trees, Not when they've all just been chopped down :-) land_use=forestry land_cover = mud_treestumps_and_woodchips But seriously, there's a difference between an

Re: [OSM-talk] [talk-au] maxheight/height

2009-07-28 Thread Greg Troxel
Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Stephen Hopeslh...@gmail.com wrote: No, you're wrong here. Maxheight is an element of the way that goes under the bridge. It is caused by the bridge, but it is not part of the bridge. You're saying that the

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
If the highway-tag was the only tag on a road, I would agree with this approach, but as we are meanwhile tagging physical attributes as supplementory tags (e.g. lanes, surface, traffic-lights), as we do for administrative classification (ref), I am in favour of changing the definition

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes:     secondary is typically used for travel at least 25km (between     multiple towns)     tertiary is used to get to secondary roads (to get to the 'real     road' in the next town) this is working well for out-of-town situations. Inside

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com writes: --- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: it's a different meaning in urban areas as in rural areas. Many of what you tag as primary and secondary in rural areas (especially low density ones) has 2 (1+1) lanes, while

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Thu, 30/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: - residential roads (just in residential areas, no connecting function, you will not take this if you don't live in the

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
David Lynch djly...@gmail.com writes: Motorway: More than one grade-separated intersection in a row, high speed, oncoming traffic separated. A Motorway should meet the physical standards of what the best national Motorway/Interstate/etc. roads are. Generally entirely divided and limited

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/31 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com: --- On Fri, 31/7/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I just see it as a hierarchical line: residential unclassified tert sec prim trunk motorway it's simple as

Re: [OSM-talk] definition of the main highway-tag

2009-07-31 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2009/7/31 Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com: So probably the renderers need a way to show unclassified as less important than tertiary. they (t...@h, mapnik, cyclemap) are already doing this. Sorry, I meant 'lower than tertiary and more

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Residential home

2009-08-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com writes: David's summary is imho a good one. There are subtle but not hard-and-fast distinctions between 'sheltered accommodation' for those who can manage in their own place but need a warden around (and perhaps a community room or a public kitchen) and

Re: [OSM-talk] sidewalks

2009-08-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com writes: On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM, OJ W ojwli...@googlemail.com wrote: sidewalks in villages - what to do? http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=52.172898lon=-0.524788zoom=18 are they footpaths or are they road attributes?

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com writes: 2009/8/11 Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de: Hi! Lauri Kytömaa schrieb: _When not signed for anyone_ but where local legislation allows cyclists on such routes, people used local judgement to decide whether the way was built as being suitable for the common

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-12 Thread Greg Troxel
John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com writes: --- On Wed, 12/8/09, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: Going the other way and not having highway=footway imply any value for  bicycle would mean that people like me could tag something as a  footway and say that I don't know whether it's

Re: [OSM-talk] GSoC End: signFinder

2009-08-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk writes: here, whatever the local council decides to put up often reflective silverish background, black letters may be black on yellow may be white on blue may be green on white Where's here? The UK seems to be rather variable, black on white is most

Re: [OSM-talk] new proposals for k:shop

2009-09-19 Thread Greg Troxel
shop=vacant; empty stores should be marked vacant, not removed from map. I think this is fine. shop=foo disused=yes doesn't work because often the idenity of a shop is removed as the landlord gets ready to re-lease, and it's just an empty room. shop=supplements; specialty food and dietary

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC - military boundary for areas used by military

2009-10-12 Thread Greg Troxel
sly (sylvain letuffe) li...@letuffe.org writes: Hi there, For those interested, please have a look at this proposition : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Military_base It's intended use is to permit the same area to be for example a forest and a military restricted

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging for Seasonal/Dry Streams

2009-11-25 Thread Greg Troxel
See http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Hydrography_Dataset http://www.mail-archive.com/newb...@openstreetmap.org/msg03521.html It sems 'obvious' :-) that this should be waterway=stream stream=intermittent pgpvyQUE20BJu.pgp Description: PGP signature

[OSM-talk] mapping driveways

2009-01-24 Thread Greg Troxel
Sorry if this is on the wiki - I've tried to read the relevant parts. I live in a semi-rural area where there are a lot of long driveways. Some of these show up on the map, mostly due to MassGIS bulk imports. For commercial places, and other places where the public might go, I've set a few to

Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import

2009-01-25 Thread Greg Troxel
For government/bulk imports -where we know that updates are available; how is it dealt with? I was just thinking about this; there is a lot of MassGIS data now, and some of it is wrong (wrong location, streets that don't actually exist), although 99.8% of it seems very good. I've edited

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping driveways

2009-01-25 Thread Greg Troxel
First of all, you should NEVER remove anything from the database, unless you have made certain by your own eye that the object in question is an error and not existing in reality! Even than take care not to remove anything marked as abandoned or alike, that marks this object was once

Re: [OSM-talk] uStream .tv broadcast 2pm PST 5pm EST - geobase import

2009-01-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Russ Nelson r...@cloudmade.com writes: On Jan 25, 2009, at 7:17 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: So I think this is really 3-way merge process, and there needs to be something that looks at each item in the new dump, finds any previous import, and checks if it has been modified. Bulk imports

Re: [OSM-talk] [Fwd: [OpenStreetMap] GPX Import Failure]

2009-02-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Example 'unicvs' log (where name is actually GPS seconds): -- lat,long,alt,name 49.66167756437,-114.59122054052,1434.1903,584656.000

Re: [OSM-talk] immutable=yes Fwd: DEC Lands

2009-03-10 Thread Greg Troxel
I share the discomfort of others about truly non-editable imported data. I have found a number of errors in MassGIS data, although the vast majority of it seems very good. Two approaches come to mind: 1. a. Have a way to have a separate database with such data. b. Have a way to have

Re: [OSM-talk] What is amenity=food_outlets in map features?

2009-03-29 Thread Greg Troxel
Someone added amenity=food_outlets to the map features and even after reading the comment An area with several food outlets I'm quite unsure what this could be. Is this a collection of several amenity=fast_food or a kind of vending_machine or ...? In the US we have a thing called

Re: [OSM-talk] turn restriction relations: via

2009-03-31 Thread Greg Troxel
As you can see there is a roundabout, but there is also a dual carriageway through the middle with the flow controlled by traffic lights. If you are in the lanes which go through as the dual carriageway you can't turn onto the roundabout, and if you are in the lanes that lead onto the

Re: [OSM-talk] the ref:color schema

2009-04-19 Thread Greg Troxel
There has been some discussion about what might be a similar problem on talk-us, where different states have different signs on Interstate highways. I have a few questions; it might be good to explain the answers on the tag proposal page. (I'm sure in .es the answers are obvious but I think

Re: [OSM-talk] the ref:color schema

2009-04-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es writes: In the US, the essence of the issue is that we have Interstate highways, which have a standard sign, but some states, especially California, have variants, and people want maps to show the local variants so they match what's on the ground.

Re: [OSM-talk] the ref:color schema

2009-04-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es writes: As an example, near me in the US you can be on a road which is both I-95 S and Massachusetts state route 128 south. Then there is an intersection where I-95 splits off. After the interchange you are on 128S and I-93N. Hm, sounds a little

Re: [OSM-talk] Zonal restrictions.

2009-04-29 Thread Greg Troxel
What currently comes closest to what I want is an area with a place= tag, but the meaning of that is not clearly defined, and you can't do everything with that. I think what you really want is an implicit relation, where the road ways inherit maxspeed from the relation, and you define the

Re: [OSM-talk] barrier=tool_booth also for automated toll cameras?

2009-05-05 Thread Greg Troxel
David Lynch djly...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 12:45, Maarten Deen md...@xs4all.nl wrote: Is it ok to use barrier=toll_booth for portals over the road with cameras for automated toll collection, like the ones used for LKW Maut (HGV toll) in Germany? To me, toll_booth

[OSM-talk] dispensing pharmacy considered confusing

2009-05-08 Thread Greg Troxel
I just mapped a CVS, which is a store that sells lots of personal hygiene stuff and has a real pharmacy (with a licensed pharmacist, who can fill prescriptions signed by doctors). I used amenity=pharmacy dispensing=yes, but find the description on the tag page confusing. I put my confusion on

Re: [OSM-talk] dispensing pharmacy considered confusing

2009-05-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes: Stefan Bethke wrote: Am 09.05.2009 um 08:59 schrieb Paul Johnson: Yes, but here in the US you wouldn't call anything where you couldn't get a prescription filled a pharmacy so the dispensing tag is redundant. I think that's what he's getting at.

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging Greenways

2009-12-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Paul Johnson ba...@ursamundi.org writes: Sam Vekemans wrote: Where the only way i know to map it is to use a relation and call it route=greenway and dont have it render on the cyclemap. Just map the sections as appropriate. Greenway is the US/Canadianism for cycleway. I don't follow

Re: [OSM-talk] Edit war on Key:religion - Pastafarians

2010-01-06 Thread Greg Troxel
In other words, stop the edit war, discuss pros and cons on the talk page, and be open to include more rather than remove. If it is concluded as not a religion than find alternative tagging. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:religion [2]

Re: [OSM-talk] New Highways view in OSM Inspector

2010-01-09 Thread Greg Troxel
We were discussing what exactly a straight line was. There is no such thing as a straight line in the database, because, as you correctly state, the database only stores the end points of a line. If you draw a line from point lat=10;lon=10 to lat=30;lon=30, then it is unclear

Re: [OSM-talk] North America extract

2010-01-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Frank Lahrmann frala1...@gmail.com writes: Am 26.01.2010 15:43, schrieb Nakor: Anybody knows where I can find a North America extract (at least US and Canada)? I used to get it from geofabrik but I cannot find it there. Have look here: http://downloads.cloudmade.com/north_america That

Re: [OSM-talk] Way out west

2010-02-07 Thread Greg Troxel
I have been noticing this. My theory, not yet confirmed by actually looking at the data, is that this is due to tags on polygons from the massgis open space or similar import. I think there are parcels that have tags like landuse=reservoir, and this means that those parcels are used for

Re: [OSM-talk] Fun with duplicate nodes

2010-02-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Has someone done a bot edit to fix the duplicate nodes in Massachusetts resulting from the MassGIS import being segmented at town boundaries. There are a lot of dups still, but they look like neighboring open space polygons mostly. pgpN6F1HDSmmJ.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Greg Troxel
I would like to put the lat long data right into the JPEG images though. I don't know how to use gpsbabel or any other program to integrate the lat lon in the EXIF part of the photos. I can use the commandline if it is required or if there are a few simple commands. Maybe a command

Re: [OSM-talk] Photo_mapping - How to put EXIF data into a jpg image

2010-02-21 Thread Greg Troxel
John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com writes: On 22 February 2010 06:10, Jochen Plumeyer joc...@plumeyer.org wrote: Be aware of your time zone (and daylight savings timezone as well) of your camera, as GPX times are all in lon=0°/ Greenwich/ UTC/ Zulu time. Actually they are in GPS time, and

Re: [OSM-talk] I ordered my first personal camera so I can do 'photomapping' or 'geotagging'

2010-02-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Yesterday I ordered my first camera(Nikon Coolpix L19). Mostly with the purpose of taking photos while I have a gps along with me, to later geotag photos with josm and later use the pictures as sources for street names or Points of Interest. Does anyone have that camera? I was a bit

Re: [OSM-talk] coastline within a park

2010-03-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Hillsman, Edward hills...@cutr.usf.edu writes: I have a related question, which I've let sit for several months hoping to find an answer for. There is a park here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=27.8394lon=-82.5924zoom=14layers=B000FTF that includes wetland islands, wetland mainland, and

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (amenity=ice_cream)

2010-03-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Roy Wallace waldo000...@gmail.com writes: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Stefano Pallicca palli...@gmail.com wrote: [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Ice_cream Use amenity=* for useful and important facilities. Use shop=* for a place selling a retail product or

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey points with different altitudes reported as duplicate nodes

2010-03-21 Thread Greg Troxel
So would be the best solution to fix this issue ? I see different options: - do nothing (with the risk that a bot will fix it incorrectly in the future) - remove arbitrarily one of the survey points but we loose some information - merge the points into one node and merge the tags using

Re: [OSM-talk] Moving to Java 1.6 not so easy to swallow

2010-03-24 Thread Greg Troxel
Christian Rogel christian.ro...@club-internet.fr writes: I found a bit unsensitive Frederik Ramm's assumption that folks willfully chained to their Hardware/OS supplier and that supplier is unwilling to release Java6 for your platform, it may be time to finally ditch that supplier (he

Re: [OSM-talk] rural highway tagging: residential or track

2010-06-28 Thread Greg Troxel
I have frequently a tagging dilemma. See this example: Coburn Rd on this location: http://osm.org/go/z...@yoeg-- (N of US 2). It was tagged as residential, but I've been there two days ago and it's a decent compacted gravel road, almost 2-car wide primarily for agricultural use, although

Re: [OSM-talk] Revert requests in general

2010-08-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net writes: Nick Black wrote: The current mechanism by which Mapzen and Mapzen POI Collector users authenticate against OSM is horrible for users. At the risk of being really hand-wavy and imprecise, I'd just say: Twitter's OAuth UI is really exemplary.

Re: [OSM-talk] USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Weait rich...@weait.com writes: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Ian ian.d...@gmail.com wrote: FYI: Most of the information present on USGS Topo Maps should already be present on the map due to an import of the GNIS dataset a couple years ago. And fixing that import so that the GNIS

Re: [OSM-talk] GNIS quality improvement, was: USGS Topo maps

2011-11-28 Thread Greg Troxel
On that matter -- I've been working on an idea for a GNIS microtasking platform. What it would do is: * Show a random non-improved GNIS point in your neighborhood - name + map * Allow you to 1) drag the point to the correct location, 2) flag it as no longer existing or 3) flag

Re: [OSM-talk] Vista eTrex 10,20,30 series

2011-12-20 Thread Greg Troxel
A common method of photo surveying in OSM is to take a picture of the GPS while it displays the GPS Satellite time. On the eTrex 30, I can only display the time to the nearest minute. Has anyone found a screen to display the seconds? If not, it is useless as a reference time

Re: [OSM-talk] Critical Mass for license change-over

2012-01-28 Thread Greg Troxel
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: Hi, On 01/28/2012 05:59 AM, Michal Migurski wrote: Keeping in mind that I am in support of the license switch, I think it's completely reasonable to expect a technical plan for a switch just 60 days in the future. You talk about reasonable - I

Re: [OSM-talk] Old Server planet is up

2012-04-03 Thread Greg Troxel
http://planet.openstreetmap.org/planet-120401.osm.bz2.md5 Is that going to be torrented? I would think many people want a copy... pgpIVnbkpUs0J.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

2012-05-30 Thread Greg Troxel
John Sturdy jcg.stu...@gmail.com writes: On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:40 AM, Thomas Davie tom.da...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, if a road has no classification, and is made of mud and gravel, it's a track... The ones I reclassified typically had two wheel-tracks of soil-colour and grass

Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines proposal update

2012-09-19 Thread Greg Troxel
Pieren pier...@gmail.com writes: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:55 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Since you[1] are trying to revise guidelines that are found to be acceptable across the community Could you provide evidences about this ? Since the vast majority of the community

[OSM-talk] OSM being used by Boston Globe (US)

2012-10-30 Thread Greg Troxel
I noticed this morning a map on boston.com (which is part of the Globe, it seems): http://www.boston.com/news/weather/specials/hurricane_sandy_reports_mapped/ The map data looked like it was from nOSM, but there was no attribution (only that it used leaflet), so I wondered. I sent a note to

Re: [OSM-talk] fences, trees and houses

2012-11-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Robin Paulson ro...@bumblepuppy.org writes: i've done some quite detailed editing near where i live, i'd appreciate anyone who is interested taking a look and responding. i'm not sure what to make of the result. for one, my partner, a non-mapper, has told me she finds it very confusing,

Re: [OSM-talk] What to call OSM data?

2012-11-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Kate Chapman k...@maploser.com writes: Hi All, So I met with a group looking to link OSM data to other data. Meaning have a link that says this village in OSM is equivalent to this village in these 3 other datasets. Part of this process involves having metadata for everything. The people

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our data?

2013-01-05 Thread Greg Troxel
Christian Quest cqu...@openstreetmap.fr writes: 2013/1/5 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: I suppose the obvious question is: what was -your- source for the building outlines? It is a fair assumption that google is simply using the same. It is even more obvious that it is not a plain copy of OSM

Re: [OSM-talk] Multi tag rendering (Was Rendering of Farmland not 'Light' enough?)

2013-01-06 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2013/1/6 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com: On 06/01/2013 16:24, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: The problem is with the mapper mixing up linear and polygon features on the same osm object. I completely disagree with this. He mapped it accurately

Re: [OSM-talk] New History tab for openstreetmap.org (beta)

2013-01-07 Thread Greg Troxel
Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm writes: Hi Julien, Could it be possible to integrate the user classification visible here ( http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/oooc) by example by adding the same coloured man icon on the right of OSM User link. IMHO it could be very usefull to know if an edit

Re: [OSM-talk] Can Google use our buildings

2013-01-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com writes: Why do you want to see outlines autogenerated from aerial imagery, you could just look at the aerial imagery? That's not true. For example, when converting to garmin format, buildings render with very few bits, and let you know developed vs

Re: [OSM-talk] Simple improvement(s) to openstreetmap.org

2013-01-09 Thread Greg Troxel
Jonathan Bennett jonobenn...@gmail.com writes: On 08/01/2013 21:31, Rovastar wrote: My idea is simple can someone add modern social media networks logos/links to the home page. As a member of the OSMF Communications Working Group (CWG), I have perhaps the greatest level of involvement in

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-newbies] Wiki documentation on GPS devices - please help answer some questions

2013-02-04 Thread Greg Troxel
Dudley Ibbett dudleyibb...@hotmail.com writes: I would also add that the section on PDOP is rather technical for a newbie. Perhaps this could be moved to a separate wiki page and the answer to the question changed to be more general. If your GPS has a display then this is more likely to be

Re: [OSM-talk] advice for getting a newer Garmin nüvi car navigation device?

2013-02-13 Thread Greg Troxel
Andreas Reuleaux reule...@web.de writes: I am about to get a newer Garmin nvi model for car navigation, and want to use OSM maps with it. I found several web pages, which suggest that in general OSM maps on a nvi should not be any problem, but the models listed on

Re: [OSM-talk] advice for getting a newer Garmin nüvi car navigation device?

2013-02-14 Thread Greg Troxel
Andreas Reuleaux reule...@web.de writes: OK, thanks a lot. I am beginning to understand. But does that mean, the nüvi 40, although it is the cheapest model, is the newest one? I believe the 40/50 are the newest. LM stands for lifetime maps, T for traffic - right? Yes. ...which would

Re: [OSM-talk] Out of Service Roads

2013-03-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com writes: 2013/3/30 Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de Define long-term. I think you can't define this on a global level, it depends heavily on the local activity whether it makes sense to enter a mid-term interruption into OSM or ignore it. Agreed that

Re: [OSM-talk] Re-opening a note if necessary?

2013-06-11 Thread Greg Troxel
colliar colliar4e...@aol.com writes: On 09.06.2013 20:33, John F. Eldredge wrote: I agree that it should be possible to update notes after the fact. malenki o...@malenki.ch wrote: On 08.06.2013 22:22, James Mast wrote: I'm curious, but does anybody think that notes should

[OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-28 Thread Greg Troxel
I'd like to see two things different; both of these are regressions from the old way and I think easy to address add the shortlink link in the lower right, so you can more easily use it to get to a URL for the current view, so you can shift-reload to see what yfou just edited. (Moving the

Re: [OSM-talk] comments on new map widget on main page

2013-07-29 Thread Greg Troxel
John Firebaugh john.fireba...@gmail.com writes: On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: I'd like to see two things different; both of these are regressions from the old way and I think easy to address I believe that persisting the location and zoom in the URL

Re: [OSM-talk] Culvert and average contributor

2010-08-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Question 1 : is culvert commonly used by native english speakers ? Is that a term mainly used by civil engineers ? I understand it to be a passage under a road that isn't big enough for a vehicle - maybe a 0.5m pipe for water, or maybe just big enough for some animals, but a human going

Re: [OSM-talk] Ham Radio for OpenStreeMap Mappers

2010-10-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Mike N. nice...@att.net writes: FYI - I saw this post and it has some interesting possibilities for community building. Mappers like gadgets and Ham radio people are interested in ways to apply their hobby... http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=9747 Indeed. There are about 6

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places

2011-01-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes: what i see a bit right now in the US are places where we have a central node from one import and a boundary with the same name from another, and as a result two names showing up. it's mildly annoying. That may be true but Kurt is right.For

Re: [OSM-talk] Nominatim US places

2011-01-03 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes: On 1/3/11 9:51 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: Richard Weltyrwe...@averillpark.net writes: That may be true but Kurt is right.For most towns in New England there is a polygon for the boundary, and then a specific place, often an intersection

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-09 Thread Greg Troxel
I would think the intent of original taggers is that highway=unsurfaced was that they were real roads that aren't paved vs tracks. So I'd map highway=unsurfaced to highway=unclassified surface=unpaved note=review:was-highway-unsurfaced or something like that. Have you looked at a

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Anthony o...@inbox.org writes: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Alex Mauer wrote: Which one were you thinking of?  I count two road types in your list: highway=track and highway=unclassified.  And it could be other highway=* types too.

Re: [OSM-talk] Licensing Working Group

2011-03-23 Thread Greg Troxel
Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com writes: Pieren writes: Are we forced to read every two months the same thread, the same approximations, the same lies, the same trolls on this list ? The strength of OSM is its community, not its license. If relicensing hurts the community (which it

Re: [OSM-talk] Tracks and there place in society

2011-05-21 Thread Greg Troxel
are the following tags rendering on the main openstreetmap renderers? If so, can designation=public_footpath appear without highway=footway. If so, that does then bring up the issue of good rendering, and I think you are conflating two things: in tagging, it makes sense to describe both

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Garmin relationship?

2011-06-30 Thread Greg Troxel
Jaakko Helleranta.com jaa...@helleranta.com writes: Does someone know if there is some sort of relationship between OSM and Garmin? The reason I'm asking is that 1) as you may know OSM is the only good enough map (data) for Haiti that e.g. makes routing possible -- now or in the

Re: [OSM-talk] Endorsing properietary social platforms

2013-08-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com writes: Switching focus to iD: there would be list of post edit notification plugins one could drag into place. Facebook, Twitter and G+ would be among those, along with whatever open source version you happen to track down or create. Anyone not wanting to

Re: [OSM-talk] Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM

2013-08-25 Thread Greg Troxel
Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com writes: Track is used more and more for unpaved roads. Mapnik and other renderers are probably a big reason, because they don't render Surfacehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Surfaceand Smoothness http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:smoothness tags. I

Re: [OSM-talk] Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM

2013-08-25 Thread Greg Troxel
Pieren pier...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Janko Mihelić jan...@gmail.com wrote: BTW osrm.at is helping in this campaign, because it doesn't route through tracks BTW I just discover that some people are tagging for routing (after tagging for the renderer). They add

Re: [OSM-talk] Dirt Roads in Mapnik, default render in OSM

2013-08-25 Thread Greg Troxel
John F. Eldredge j...@jfeldredge.com writes: So, how would you classify a one-lane road leading through a former field, now overgrown with 30 years or so of bushes and saplings, leading to a billboard adjoining a motorway? The only improvements the road receives is to be mowed periodically

Re: [OSM-talk] Living with 'improvements'

2013-09-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk writes: Lester Caine wrote: Basically - does anybody have a smartphone option that correctly and safely handles UK motorways and trunk roads? Well I'm seeing some feedback off-list, and there have been a few steps forward, but The one thing I have finally

Re: [OSM-talk] Element on OSM which don't exist in real life

2013-12-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: Hi Same but different for the Kettleman Station node, this has been imported 5 years ago from a GNIS data set and deserves no more respect than the rest - if there's nobody living there then it's likely not a hamlet. It's true that it's not hamlet.

Re: [OSM-talk] Element on OSM which don't exist in real life

2013-12-02 Thread Greg Troxel
Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net writes: there is some bad data in the GNIS import. when i encounter obviously bogus objects from the GNIS import, i just delete them. just the other day i deleted a GNIS object which suggested someone had a heliport in their back yard a little south of

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com writes: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 1:13 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: I think this is a good example of where notes are the way to go. A badly positioned node is only likely to be spotted by a mapper who is specifically interested in bike

Re: [OSM-talk] [Imports] amenity=bicycle_repair_station :::: only 18 so far

2015-01-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com writes: On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com wrote: Also, if a tag isn't rendered in the default mapnik view, then those elements are unlikely to be cleaned up (absent a special render for a community of interest, which the cyclemap

Re: [OSM-talk] Mechanically Cleaning Up FIXME Tags

2015-02-27 Thread Greg Troxel
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com writes: On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:10 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote: On 25/02/2015 05:00, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Any fixme in wide use I'm not interested in deleting. I'd strongly oppose the mechanical deletion of low volume fixme values.

Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-02-20 Thread Greg Troxel
Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com writes: 6) Lazy Requests to do cleanup that the note writer did not want to do themselves. That's unnecessarily perjorative. I've seen a number of notes around me that could be characterized that way, and I've entered a number myself. I view it as a public

Re: [OSM-talk] Removing redundant routing instructions

2015-04-26 Thread Greg Troxel
Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com writes: I'm not sure I get your point about hint for router versus aid for navigation. I suspect this may stem from the don't tag for the renderer rule. If we look at the end use case the aim is to get a routing engine that provides an optimal route

Re: [OSM-talk] Draft updated privacy policy

2015-06-18 Thread Greg Troxel
Simon Poole si...@poole.ch writes: I've produced an updated version of the OSM privacy policy: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Updated_Privacy_Policy (the original resides here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Privacy_Policy). I have a few big-picture comments so I'm sending them to

Re: [OSM-talk] Unsealed footways/cycleways/paths and rendering

2015-07-01 Thread Greg Troxel
Fernando Trebien fernando.treb...@gmail.com writes: Do you think it is necessary, for the general user, to visually distinguish unsealed (unpaved/poor surface) footways/cycleways/paths from those that are sealed? This has been raised in an issue related to unsealed roads (with focus on

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