Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-12 Thread Brick Robbins
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Chris, UK t...@chrisjj.com wrote: Never met those Spanish evening class students who know an incredible number of words but still cannot hold a conversation with a native speaker?? Have you ever met a person who spoke a language fluently who DIDN'T have a

Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-11 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
I started to learn Spanish in 2004, on my own. I am now fluent in the sense that I can talk at the same speed I talk in English, without translating from one language to another. My approach: 1) first start leaning verbs, conjugation and prepositions, on the ground that they form the

Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-11 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
I must say that on this count, Chris was correct, although he could not have known for the reasons you stated. I started speaking in Mexico. Even in Florida, all my friends (including my spanish-speaking friends) spoke English, so I did not speak much with them. But my study of tango (mostly

Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-10 Thread robin tara
Removing music from the movement removes the swing On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:31 PM, Secondary Yahoo johnc...@yahoo.com wrote: From a learning transfer perspective, the further away the design of a learning experience is from the real life context in which one is expect to perform, the slower

Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-10 Thread Trini y Sean (PATangoS)
...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Secondary Yahoo johnc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Tango-L] why music To: Trini y Sean (PATangoS) patan...@yahoo.com Cc: Tango-L Tango-L@mit.edu Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 5:50 PM Well... Now multiplication tables and dancing tango are one of the same. Learning styles asides

Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-07 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
I understand your position, Michael, but I respectfully disagree with your conclusion. The music helps one understand the figure. The human brain is a marvelous mechanism that has the evolved the ability to use multiple references to anchor a memory, including the visual details of where the

Re: [Tango-L] why music

2011-07-07 Thread Gordon Erlebacher
I was told by a teacher in France one day, a teacher dancing classical tango, that his advice to me, to improve my musicality, was to get tango music into my blood, under my skin. I took the advice to heart and for the next 1-2 years, I listened to tango 24/7 until I could whisle Milongas,

[Tango-L] why music is p layed in class

2011-07-06 Thread Nussbaum, Martin
I am really shocked when I read comments like Michael's who said he doesnt understand why music is played in class, for the alleged reason that it intereferes with his ability to learn the figure. This suggests that he believes executing the figure itself is more important than placing it in the

Re: [Tango-L] why music is played in class

2011-07-06 Thread Michael
I find that in any class, about HALF of the couples can't immediately execute the figure. The instructors move around the room helping them. Confused couples not being helped watch the couples being helped to try to figure out what to do. This is NOT necessarily an issue of technique. It can be