Hello Gary,
Put something else other than The Bat in the X-Mailer mail header. It's not
the mailing list. It's your ISP. Not a few treat The Bat as spam.
See here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/spammer.html
Nothing wrong with plain text, but it wasn't easy to get it to be the default
Hello Roelof,
I guess I will unsubscribe.
I really do not like reading the SAME text over and over again which is what
happens if the NEW text is not first
Adrian
Current version is 4.2.42 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
T-online in Germany has just done this to me as well.
SMTP works, but it is POP I am having issues with. I have The Bat Professional
6.0.1.2. Do I need a newer version?
I either get connection failed or TLS not supported. T-online wants port
995 for POP.
Adrian
Thursday, February 6, 2014,
Does anyone else have problems with actually buying an upgrade licence for The
Bat version 6 via element 5 / digital river link from Ritlabs own website?
As I write, it is SIX hours since placing the order. No messages about card
declined
Is there a way of doing this with SWREG? That is
I have actually succeeded now. In the end it took around eight hours
foe element 5 to actually do something. NOT the fault of Ritlabs.
I don't understand. SWREG is also Digital River and that is INSTANT
notification of card declined / card accepted. Same as every other
website except
Is it possible (the only differences are the email address and the
password) to create new accounts in Version 6.2 by copying an existing one?
Or even better, is there a file that can be edited with any text
editor to do this?
Thanks in advance
Adrian
Gmail ignores whatever is set in your email client.
When you set up POP, you have to choose between mark Gmail copy as
read and Delete Gmail copy at the website.
Gmail also has the nasty habit of breaking email clients (the error
log fills up with web login required if you access
the
I can't see anything obvious in the filter actions, but some Yahoo
mailing lists have a nasty habit of sending me a message.html
attachment, i.e. content type text/html. In such cases, I see a text
and an html tab
Is there any way of using filters to delete those HTML
Some people tend to cc me at multiple email addresses and/or just use
any of my email addresses (without cc) they happen to know. I have filters
set up to put these all into a common folder based on the from
header. In fact I filter everything into folders not associated
with any
Hello Thomas,
In Eudora, I just pick a personality from the list of accounts I
have created. There is only ONE Outbox for all messages in the
outgoing mail queue irrespective of which account I selected.
Similarly in Eudora, there is only one Inbox which you create filters
Hello Thomas,
I don't quote here any more. Last time I quoted here, I got admonished
for it, despite my new text being much more more than what I actually
quoted.
The point is when I pick the account to send from is that the outgoing
messages does NOT get put into that account's outbox. It
Hello Thomas and Marck
Problem solved. It's the bottom line in the message editor window that
is the key. If I change the sending account here (the right hand
one of the three in the middle), it works and gets
queued in the appropriate outbox so that the send does not fail.
I now wonder
Hello Thomas,
My customers (and everybody else) send me mail, but as many of them know
multiple email
addresses for myself and some even cc me at multiple email addresses, I need
to filter into a common folder based on
the sender rather than having to look in separate inboxes of all the
Tuesday, April 29, 2014, 8:27:06 PM, you wrote:
I
always have none checked as default,
I don't have any accounts checked as default either, but I don't get
the choose account dialogue when I write a new message. In my case,
it is the very first account I created (when I had a Version 5)
Sunday, June 15, 2014, 1:10:22 AM, you wrote:
Well, it helps only in making me realize **once again** that if I continue to
use
HTML (in all correspondence except those to TB!) I'm gonna have these
weird problems
HTML doesn't belongin email in the first place (if
that
Monday, June 16, 2014, 12:42:51 AM, you wrote:
And even if the recipient views in HTML, their viewing settings may be
wildly different to your own, so they don't see what you imagine they
might.
Not to mention all those crazy colours that make a lot of HTML mails
extremely difficult to
Monday, June 16, 2014, 1:14:42 AM, you wrote:
I too have a Gmail account
which I seldom use because TB! far exceeds Gmail.
I have a gmail account as well. The only time I went to the website
was to create that address in the first place (or to resolve those
pesky web login required
Monday, June 16, 2014, 4:44:06 PM, you wrote:
Wasted bandwidth: Not an issue in the 21st century.
Of course it's a waste. Why send the same message twice? Even without
roaming charges, many providers have daily volume limits. Plain text is
more than adequate. I agree attachments don't
Is there a way to copy and paste ALL filters (or at least more than
one at a time) associated with a specific email address to common
filtera?
The background is I had LinkedIn groups (NOT digests) set up to send to a
specific
email address and not my primary one. LinkedIn seems to be
Does anybody know what causes cannot copy the message? Or even how
to find which message it is that triggers this during filter processing?
Thanks in advance
Adrian (version 6.3.2 Professional)
..
Current version is 6.1.8 | 'Using TBUDL'
Sunday, July 6, 2014, 3:03:17 AM, you wrote:
I don't understand why RITlabs don't make all filters into Common
Filters, with the per-account filters views just showing the
Common Filters currently ticked for that account.
Perhaps they will in one of the next versions of The Bat.
I've
Sunday, July 13, 2014, 3:09:55 PM, you wrote:
In Options | Preferences | System you can find Account tree font on
the right side of the window which you can change to your needs.
Thanks very much. That fixed the problem. I'm still curious why it
changed though - maybe a keyboard shortcut?
Friday, July 18, 2014, 7:50:32 PM, you wrote:
I've even reset the missing ones as unread but
it still won't see them
I don't know (yet) where it is in The Bat, but you will probably also need to
change the last message read to a lower number (zero is a good one to
use unless you have
Wednesday, August 20, 2014, 9:06:48 PM, you wrote:
Is there a way to copy them to another, rather than
having to recreate each in turn?
You can copy and paste by right clicking, but only one at a time.
I learned that the hard way by not putting all my filters in common
filters in the
Sunday, August 24, 2014, 2:49:38 PM, you wrote:
I never see that, since Gmail works perfectly well in The Bat! using
SMTP/POP without resorting to their terrible (IMHO) webmail interface.
gmail works fine in all email clients. Just set it up once to activate
the POP server. Then you
Thursday, September 25, 2014, 9:04:25 PM, you wrote:
Any reason why it shouldn't be put in:
C:\Program Files (x86)\The Bat!?
It offends my Monkian sensibilities to have files to a specific
program spread all over the place.
The place you do NOT want application data (whether email
Friday, October 3, 2014, 6:27:34 PM, you wrote:
I am seriously considering buying an authorized copy ($99 from Newegg)
of Windows 7 and trashing Windows 8 on this new machine. I will
contact ASUS tech support to see if the machine will even let me do
that.
First thing to do with any new PC
I know there is an account log for each email address, but is there
a log that shows all the activity for all accounts in one place
whether only the last check mail or send mail session or even all
since the last time the log was reset?
With more than a dozen email addresses, it's
My ISP sent me this:
According to an online research, your mail client The Bat does not
include the root certificate for the StartCOM certificate authority - which
is rather strange as they are neither new nor uncommon,
I have a download link, but how do I import the certificate into The
Bat?
Friday, November 21, 2014, 11:02:02 PM, you wrote:
It can be done through the Address Book, but it's simpler to switch to
CryptoAPI in Options - S/MIME and TLS.
Options looks easier, but then I get server host name does not match
the certificate and the mail does NOT get sent
If I don't
Saturday, November 22, 2014, 8:07:10 PM, you wrote:
Are you running the SMTP servers, or are they?
If they are running them and the certificate does not match the server
name you are using to connect, are you perhaps using an alias and the
server is also known by the name that matches the
Saturday, November 22, 2014, 8:07:10 PM, you wrote:
I would have thought the root certificate belonged in a single AB
entry in the Trusted Root address book. (Assuming you have done your
due diligence and came to the decision you actually do trust the
certificate and the CA behind it.)
Also
Monday, March 16, 2015, 1:22:50 AM, you wrote:
I send and read plain text because, as far as I'm concerned, an email
is a message and not a presentation.
Same here. Email is email. HTML is for websites.
If all that presentation is actually needed, that's what file
attachments are for.
Saturday, April 11, 2015, 1:44:19 AM, you wrote:
I recently
had sent to me a couple of emails each of which contained about 15MB
worth of attachments.
I usually want attachments in a separate directory on my hard disk
rather than in message bodies. I don't know the exact limit yet, but
Monday, June 1, 2015, 2:02:34 AM, you wrote:
some of the filters no longer seem to be working
I don't know why either, but sometimes filtering on message source
fixes this. I thought mail headers were supposed to be immune from the
dreaded HTML
Adrian
Saturday, August 15, 2015, 3:27:44 AM, you wrote:
Win 7 issue. They made changes that stopped the ability to have animated icons
Admittedly Version 6.8 of The Bat, but I see animated icons on my
Windows 7 Ultimate taskbar for several applications including TheBat.
I have downloaded
I am suddenly being plagued with "connection to host broken" messages
in the error logs for random email accounts in Version 6.8.8 (32-bit)
of TheBat on Windows 7 Ultimate.
Is there a recent Windows Update that could be causing this?
It happens more often with a VPN connection, but it
Tuesday, July 26, 2016, 12:53:16 AM, you wrote:
> They only use it if a fraudulent log-in was suspected. I'm not
> saying it's a great idea, but it's not a big problem over here.
> Happenes maybe twice a year, and I change IP addresses several times
> per month.
It's a pain in Europe where
Monday, July 25, 2016, 12:52:21 PM, you wrote:
> Otherwise, Gmail and Yahoo both from time to time randomly disable POP
> and/or SMTP on an account and you have to log into their web interface
> to fix it.
Gmail breaks email clients every time you change your IP address. It
doesn't even send
Monday, July 25, 2016, 3:02:14 PM, you wrote:
>> Gmail breaks email clients every time you change your IP address.
> Not true, I use Gmail on the laptop that I travel with. I rarely get
> it blocked, but if it happens I am informed that web login is required.
That is definitely breaking
Saturday, July 30, 2016, 6:03:56 PM, you wrote:
> So here's what I recommend, close TB!.
> Copy the ADDRBOOK.INI from its location in Program Files to the location in
> AppData.
> Open TB!.
I have a better idea. Put it in a directory you create yourself,
ideally on a different partition
Sunday, July 31, 2016, 5:03:24 PM, you wrote:
> No amount of copying the
> jackADDRBOOK.INI file to a couple of different locations and then loading
> from those locations ever resulted in my regaining my complete address book.
> Only when I loaded from the Program Files(x86) location would my
Sunday, July 31, 2016, 9:11:58 PM, you wrote:
> Move your mail directory from APDATA to MY Documents
That will fix it, but why not go one step better and put it anywhere
that is not within the directory structure created by Windows itself?
I have mine on a separate partition from the
Thursday, July 21, 2016, 2:03:15 AM, you wrote:
>> The error messages is clear, but where do I find the certificate so
>> that I can see what is actually in there?
> try this:
> go to Options/S/MIME and TLS... and set Microsoft CryptoAPI.
Thanks for the suggestion. Now the error
The error messages is clear, but where do I find the certificate so
that I can see what is actually in there?
SEND - This certificate is self-issued.
SEND - TLS handshake failure. The server host name ("smtp.xxx.xxx") does not
match the certificate.
I don't get any warnings about the
Friday, July 29, 2016, 5:47:01 PM, you wrote:
> I'm pretty sure
> my Win 7 user account was as an administrator
Nit a good idea to login to Windows with administrator rights all the
time. Apart from actual software installs, you should look very
critically at software that won't run
Friday, July 29, 2016, 6:59:24 PM, you wrote:
> (if I'm already an administrator, why wouldn't TB! run
> properly?)
I would try to find out why TB on your PC even wants administrator
rights.
I don't login with administrator rights or do "run as administrator"
and yet TB works on my
Thursday, July 21, 2016, 12:20:17 PM, you wrote:
> Thursday, July 21, 2016, 2:03:15 AM, you wrote:
>>> The error messages is clear, but where do I find the certificate so
>>> that I can see what is actually in there?
>> try this:
>> go to Options/S/MIME and TLS... and set Microsoft
For each of my email addresses, I only have two filters. An "incoming"
to move everything to a "not sorted" directory and an outgoing one to
save sent messages in a top level directory outside the "account".
I only use "common filters" for the actual filtering and that works
when new mail
For each of my email addresses, I only have two filters. An "incoming"
to move everything to a "not sorted" directory and an outgoing one to
save sent messages in a top level directory outside the "account".
I only use "common filters" for the actual filtering and that works
when new mail
That option is there BUT you have to do it individually for each email
address in the Properties for the account
Sunday, February 5, 2017, 5:25:21 PM, you wrote:
> I want it defined in the attachment location directive in settings. This
> way I set it once for all incoming mail without using
Friday, February 24, 2017, 3:02:21 AM, you wrote:
> The moderators bounced my reply that had the
> screenshot.
>
That is normal on almost every mailing list in existence that attachments are
not
accepted. Some just strip the attachment but the rest posts, others reject
the entire
post.
Saturday, February 25, 2017, 2:36:37 PM, you wrote:
> In my Windows 10 its called "default programs" or "default apps"
> depending which screen view I look at (in case this helps anyone
> to find it).
Windows 10 has a nasty habit of resetting file associations to the
"Microsoft defaults".
Tuesday, February 7, 2017, 6:53:52 PM, you wrote:
> When manually re-filtering, all the filters (common and account ones)
> of the selected type (Incoming, etc.) will be used, UNLESS 'Manual
> filters only' is ticked. In this case, only filters set as 'manual'
> will be used.
> I didn't
Friday, February 10, 2017, 7:32:42 PM, you wrote:
> Sorry. But as I said in previous reply, I don't need to set the filter
> to manual for re-filtering.
I couldn't find out where the log for "refilter" is, but I tried right
clicking on messages and "test filters". It looks like some of the
Thursday, February 16, 2017, 2:31:50 AM, you wrote:
> the
> organisation gave me the log-in credentials:
I get this with some wifi accesses. You have to start a web browser
first and do that login. Afterwards your email client should work
normally.
Some providers try to make you use
Thursday, September 15, 2016, 2:59:38 PM, you wrote:
> Select the Message Menu and then Select "Edit as New".
Thanks. "Edit as new" does what I expected "resend" to do. I wonder why
"resend" is even there.
Adrian
Current version is 7.1 |
Thursday, September 15, 2016, 9:00:13 PM, you wrote:
> See Help | Help Topics | "Contents" tab | expand "Reading Mail" |
> Folder View.
>
> "The "Message Viewer" window is actually a Folder View window
> and (by default) hides a list of messages stored in the
>
Thursday, September 15, 2016, 12:29:06 AM, you wrote:
> In the new window, you could try:-
>View | Show message list | Hide
But why does that new window even open at all?
It happens for me as well (previously version 7.3.1 but also with
7.3.2). Windows 7 Ultimate is my operating
The "resend" option only seems to be in the "Message" menu. It does
not seem to be visible by right clicking on the actual message.
The "Resend" in the "Message" menu sends immediately and does
not give an opportunity to edit or even confirm sending. Is there a
setting somewhere that I have
Is there a way of looking at least in the last session (ideally all
sessions) at the account logs for all accounts in one place without having to
go to each mail account
individually?
I am particularly interested in finding out whether any "connection to
host broken" errors occurred. This
How long do the entries stay in the account logs?
I just looked at a couple. One has no entries at all apart from today
and I know there was definitely an error for that account yesterday.
Another one has entries for the last three days.
Is there any setting in The Bat that can put the
Saturday, January 14, 2017, 12:33:16 PM, you wrote:
> You could take the opportunity to change them all to Common Filters
Common Filters is a much better place. Then you only have one filter
to add / change that will work for all your email addresses.
I still have some leftover in
Saturday, December 3, 2016, 4:59:03 PM, you wrote:
M>>My Windows start menu shortcut is called "The Bat! (64-bit)"
M>>
M>>My TB! executable is called "thebat64.exe"
> Just for the record also, none of the examples you gave hold true for me
> running
> the 32 bit version. One
Is it possble to disable / enable the automated checking for ALL mail
accounts or do I have to go into each one individually?
Thanks in advance
Adrian
Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Sunday, March 26, 2017, 9:16:51 PM, you wrote:
> Try setting the association through Control Panel -> Default
> applications - that's the only way to get the association to stick
> with a progra
I have done this using both "default applications" and the file
extensions in both
Tuesday, March 21, 2017, 7:35:41 PM, you wrote:
> Is it possible to read and post
> messages from within TB
It certainly is possible. I only used the gmail website to create the
account in the first place and occasionaly for "website login
required" errors (see below). You need to look
Tuesday, April 11, 2017, 4:16:32 PM, you wrote:
> Email clients TheBat, Thunderbird or ClawsMail on Windows (also with
> gpg4win installed) are very simple to use. On Linux it is simple as
> well.
Irrespective of whether it is simple or not, how do you avoid asking
everybody else whether
Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 2:02:57 PM, you wrote:
> I think the main issue is that most people cannot be bothered to
>>> encrypt or digitally sign their email, irrespective of ease or
>>> difficulty. Being unable to get friends or family members to do so is
>>> almost the default
Getting
Monday, April 10, 2017, 9:16:06 AM, you wrote:
> Instead, two of them counter-proposed to use VPN.
A VPN is much easier. If you use a mobile device for email, a VPN will
work there as well.
Trying to guess which recioients use PGP (and most people don't)
Even worse for mails you receive
Tuesday, March 7, 2017, 11:43:34 PM, you wrote:
>> I am surprised port 25 for SMTP works. That is
>> blocked by many ISPs.
> I have been hearing that for years but never encountered it myself.
It gets particularly irritating when you use the SMTP£ server from
your own domain, but your
Thursday, March 9, 2017, 1:27:15 PM, you wrote:
> Been using port 26 for years and still do.
587 usually works as well.
Just a bit strange that they block port 25 when you are using the SMTP
server from your own hosting/domain.
The ones I have come across (prepaid SIM card in a 3G wifi router
Monday, March 13, 2017, 10:28:03 AM, you wrote:
> Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your
> message and following it with all quoted text below, is not
> encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list
> because
Putting the NEW text before
Monday, March 6, 2017, 8:48:28 PM, you wrote:
> For mail retrieval to work, I also have to log onto gmail website
That is a real pain and rather defeats the point of an email
address. Sometimes you have to do that if your active
Internet connection has a different IP address. Not
I can recover them with Ctrl Alt Shift L, but why do
directories disappear from the view every so often? They are of course
NOT deleted from my hard disk, so why does the Bat sometimes not find
them?
I have 64-bit Version 7.4.16 on a Windows 10 Pro (clean install, not
an
Wednesday, December 13, 2017, 9:30:00 PM, you wrote:
> SETTINGS - SYSTEM - DEFAULT APPS - CHOOSE DEFAULT APPS BY FILE TYPE (at the
> bottom) and select Adobe Reader for .PDFs ( which assumes you have Adobe
> Reader
> on your computer.)
I don't actually want Adobe Reader - I _do_ want
In Windows 10, the file associations keep getting reset at random
times (probably the forced Windows Updates) to "Windows
defaults". Is there any way of specifying a particular application
within The Bat itself (currently version 8.0.14 64-bit)
for viewing PDF attachments in the mails I
Wednesday, August 23, 2017, 6:06:11 PM, you wrote:
> So, The file size (.MP4) is 594,243,584 bytes
Far too large for email. Even if it works, it will take for ever to
send and probabky bounce anyway because it exceeds the mmessagae size
limit of the recipient's mailbox.
Put it on an FTP
I just noticed that some of my email accounts are showing more than once in
the account tree. I renamed one, but it renamed all the others for
that one as well. The actual account directory for such affected
accounts only exists once on my hard disk.
Is there a way to force a
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 2:00:11 AM, you wrote:
> We have successfully run TB! on the Linux machine using Crossover
> and Play on Linux. Might there be a way to run TheBat! on a Mac
> through Crossover, Boot Camp, Parallels, Citrix XenApp, or other
> such applications??
Any Windows virtual
Sunday, June 3, 2018, 12:40:52 PM, you wrote:
> I had that with an account a few years ago. I deleted the account from
> TB", selecting the option to keep the account files on disk. Then I
> created a "new" account with the same name and pointed it to the
> existing account files. (First I made a
Monday, July 30, 2018, 1:20:48 PM, you wrote:
> just showing you what is there. No more, no less." my TB!
> displays all senders in the message list
That is normal. The "sender" is the mailing list itself.
What is important is what are in "From" and "reply-to". The "from"
should be the
Friday, September 7, 2018, 1:53:39 AM, you wrote:
> it also has one of my accounts listed four times in the Account
> Tree. All with the same message counts. Is there also a way to fix that?
Ihave a similar problem, but it's more than one account (but NOT
all of them) that gets shown
Saturday, September 8, 2018, 2:44:33 PM, you wrote:
> You can delete the accounts you don't want shown
That is tricky when they are duplicated in the account tree. The files
on the hard disk are safe, but assume account X is duplicated. Either all
of the duplicates for
account X get
that tries to start.
Strangely setting The Bat as my default email client does NOT get
reset.
Adrian Godfrey
Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
A very helpful person t Ritlabs gave me a solution:
Close The Bat
Delete the AccOder.cfg file
Regedit HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\...\ rename "RIT" into "RIT_1".
Restart The Bat and change the "user-defined directory" accordingly
The drawback is, the order of the entries change, but at
the problem when I add some new ones recently.
Adrian Godfrey
Current version is 8.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Is it possible to use a macro (%NORCPTCONFIRM and %NOREADCONFIRM) as a filter
action? I need this to happen for every incoming mail, i.e. "any message",
remove the receipt and reading confirmation flags and then continue processing
with other filters.
All my e-mail addresses ignore "read
Right clicking on folders and using up, down, move in, move out is one way to
sort the account tree.
But I wonder if it is possible to edit a configuration file (but which one?)
with a text editor while The Bat is not running.
Adrian
Current
Hello MAU,
I presume you mean this: Options - Preferences - Other Options - Use denser
display of items for folder and message lists
I still don't see a space (blank line) between folders whether that box is
checked or not.
Adrian
Tuesday, September 7, 2021, 7:40:05 PM, you wrote:
> Hello
Automatic indentation does not happen for myself with the plain text editor,
but I wouldn't expect it there anyway. It also does not happen if I
exceptionally change to HTML editor in my attempt at reproducing the problem.
Adrian
Current
How do you get a "space between the folders"? I have never seen that in any
version of The Bat (from version 7, but now version 9).
Adrian
Monday, September 6, 2021, 12:04:45 PM, you wrote:
how to switch from the new style with the space between the folders to the
classic style. Couldn't
Out of office should be set up at the mail server itself, not in the e-mail
client. That said, you can do it with the "send automatic reply" filter action.
But that filter action will only work if The Bat is actually running.
Just don't set up any kind of autoresponders for any mailing lists you
Just activate Options, Periodical checking for the e-mail accounts, but
probably not a good idea more often than every 30 minutes.
Adrian
Current version is 9.1.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information:
Is there a way to disable periodic checking for all e-mail accounts in TheBat
Version 9 without starting the program?
Similarly, a way to set the "ignore check all accounts" flag for every account
before starting the program or even afterwards providing I can disable periodic
checking first.
I guess simply unplugging the Ethernet cable (it is rare that I use wifi) so
that there is no possibility of an Internet connection will guarantee no
retrieval of mail. Then I just need to go through the "options" in the
properties for every e-mail account one at a time.
I have had "forward to POP and delete gmail's copy" already activated since
creating gmail addresses. "allow less secure apps" was sufficient. But even
with that, I was still plagued with "web login required" if my IP address for
the actual Internet connection changed.
Today I have added
Try using Mail Dispatcher so that you only get the headers and can decide which
ones to actually retrieve. Just append "/spam" to your username to access the
junk / spam folder instead of the INBOX.
Otherwise, you need to play with the sorting office filters
Adrian
If you are using POP, you won't even see the spam folder unless you append
"/spam" to the login username.
If you are using IMAP, you need to remove the spam folder from what it
accesses. Every three minutes to check for mail is excessive, but if it's IMAP,
you get the mails as soon as they
Hello Jack,
I get a "memberships reminder" every month that has passwords from
mailman-ow...@thebat.dutaint.com, but that is not Rit Labs. Those passwords are
for if you ever use a web browser to access this tbudl mailing list.
Adrian
Saturday, January 8, 2022, 7:21:33 PM, you wrote:
> The
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