Re: Which one?

2017-04-14 Thread Goos
Whether or not a coincidence. :-) For those who can read German RitLabs published at their Facebook page information with a good (silent) step-by-step instruction video how to setup and use S/MIME the built-in encryption: https://www.facebook.com/ritlabs/posts/1887696304840160:0 I do not

Re: Which one?

2017-04-12 Thread MFPA
Hi On Wednesday 12 April 2017 at 1:02:57 PM, in , Goos wrote:- > The main issue for me is, that it is not > understandable how it works, > what exactly to do to get it working, and that it > does not work intuitive > or even already is implemented in

Re: Which one?

2017-04-12 Thread Martin
Hi Goos On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 2:02:57 PM you wrote: > For YOU it may be simple, for ME it is complicated. OK, installing is > easy, but the next steps aren't. Why I need a public and a private > key, and how to configure things in The Bat to get it all working at > writng and receiving

Re: Which one?

2017-04-12 Thread Adrian Godfrey
Wednesday, April 12, 2017, 2:02:57 PM, you wrote: > I think the main issue is that most people cannot be bothered to >>> encrypt or digitally sign their email, irrespective of ease or >>> difficulty. Being unable to get friends or family members to do so is >>> almost the default Getting

Re: Which one?

2017-04-12 Thread Goos
>> I think the main issue is that most people cannot be bothered to >> encrypt or digitally sign their email, irrespective of ease or >> difficulty. Being unable to get friends or family members to do so is >> almost the default. The main issue for me is, that it is not understandable how it

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Martin
Hi MFPA On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 11:03:27 PM you wrote: > I think the main issue is that most people cannot be bothered to > encrypt or digitally sign their email, irrespective of ease or > difficulty. Being unable to get friends or family members to do so is > almost the default. As long

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread MFPA
Hi On Tuesday 11 April 2017 at 5:18:57 PM, in , Martin wrote:- > If you have it - you can send him encrypted mail. And > if you sent him > your question with your signature he has your public > key and he is > able to send you encrypted mail. I think

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread MFPA
Hi On Tuesday 11 April 2017 at 8:22:25 PM, in , Martin wrote:- > If Windows 10 handles it so complicated - I can't > give you any hint > because I am using Windows 7 and I will never change > to Windows 10. I have no such issues with GnuPG on Windows

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Martin
Hi Goos On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 7:39:07 PM you wrote: > At first the GnuPG program did not install correctly, due to my protection > tools. I had to delete it and clean the registry and then, after a reboot, a > new install succeeded because I then was prepared to make whitelist entries >

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Goos
> Why? On Windows you install gpg4win and probably you have already > installed an email client which supports GnuPG. So you generate your > key and you are done. > What can be complicated with this? This will be a little longer At first the GnuPG program did not install correctly, due to

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Martin
Hi Adrian On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 6:04:35 PM you wrote: > Irrespective of whether it is simple or not, how do you avoid asking > everybody else whether they can receive PGP mails and of course > communicating the keys? I am not sure if I understand your question correctly. But you

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Adrian Godfrey
Tuesday, April 11, 2017, 4:16:32 PM, you wrote: > Email clients TheBat, Thunderbird or ClawsMail on Windows (also with > gpg4win installed) are very simple to use. On Linux it is simple as > well. Irrespective of whether it is simple or not, how do you avoid asking everybody else whether

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Martin
Hi Goos On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 4:21:39 PM you wrote: > From my own experience and of two friends with whom I tried together to > get it running, I completely disagree. It is NOT simple, it is complicated > and has already cost me too much time. Why? On Windows you install gpg4win and

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Goos
>> My conclusion: PGP is (still) something for interested freaks. > This is now quite old prejudice. > Email clients TheBat, Thunderbird or ClawsMail on Windows (also with > gpg4win installed) are very simple to use. On Linux it is simple as > well. From my own experience and of two friends

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Martin
Hi Goos On Tuesday, April 11, 2017 3:38:43 PM you wrote: > My conclusion: PGP is (still) something for interested freaks. This is now quite old prejudice. Email clients TheBat, Thunderbird or ClawsMail on Windows (also with gpg4win installed) are very simple to use. On Linux it is simple as

Re: Which one?

2017-04-11 Thread Goos
> I have GnuPG installed Well, I had. What a rigmarole! Getting GnuPG working is laborious and quite time-consuming and because I could not find a good beginners help, I gave up and deleted the program. My conclusion: PGP is (still) something for interested freaks. Instead, I am using

Re: Which one?

2017-04-10 Thread MFPA
Hi On Friday 7 April 2017 at 4:05:04 PM, in , Goos wrote:- > And their encryption tool also has to be Gnu PG? Or > doesn't it matter which > one they use? GnuPG or PGP or any other tool which implements the OpenPGP protocol. -- Best regards

Re: Which one?

2017-04-10 Thread Martin
Hi Dirk On Monday, April 10, 2017 8:23:38 AM you wrote: > Mailbox.org generates a new key for the (new) adress - same you > should do, if you set up an account at any other provider. This key > is downloadable and ready for import in your local keyring, so you > can use the key (and the mail

Re: Which one?

2017-04-10 Thread Adrian Godfrey
Monday, April 10, 2017, 9:16:06 AM, you wrote: > Instead, two of them counter-proposed to use VPN. A VPN is much easier. If you use a mobile device for email, a VPN will work there as well. Trying to guess which recioients use PGP (and most people don't) Even worse for mails you receive

Re: Which one?

2017-04-10 Thread Goos
> If you already have GnuPG (or PGP) installed, I have GnuPG installed but failed to make a The Bat new mail template ... despite the help site. Moreover, I do not know how to organize it automated in TB to use GnuPG with contacts who also use it and not to use it with those who don't. Neither

Re: Which one?

2017-04-10 Thread Dirk Zemisch
Moin Martin, hello list > Martin Schoch wrote yesterday @18:06: >> I personally use Mailbox.org [1], but there are some others too. [2] > Ok. But if you really want to setup a fresh new account to use GnuPG? If you like to start using openPGP (PGP or GnuPG) with a fresh

Re: Which one?

2017-04-09 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi Dirk Thanks for your input. On Sunday, April 9, 2017 9:48:11 AM you wrote: > I personally use Mailbox.org [1], but there are some others too. [2] Ok. But if you really want to setup a fresh new account to use GnuPG? > Generally you can try to use Mailvelope [3] for most webmail >

Re: Which one?

2017-04-09 Thread Dirk Zemisch
Good morning List, the day before yesterday (on 04/07/2017 at 17:32) Martin Schoch chipped in: > Mail on Webmail with GnuPG is quite difficult - I don't know any > provider which support this. It's not easy - but far not as difficult as it was one or more years ago. There are some

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Martin Schoch
Hi Goos On Friday, April 7, 2017 5:03:18 PM you wrote: > Then, I have to convince first some to also install GnuPG in their > mailclient - if they are using webmail, thea, in turn, have to ask > that to their admins? Mail on Webmail with GnuPG is quite difficult - I don't know any provider

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Goos
G>> Do I have to contact them all first to ask that? > Yes, unless there is another way to obtain their public keys. You'll > encrypt with their public keys, and then they can decrypt with their > private keys. And their encryption tool also has to be Gnu PG? Or doesn't it matter which one they

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Goos
> First: PGP is not GnuPG. It seems that you installed now GnuPG Yes, so, they are different encryption tools. Thanks for telling me that. I thought the basis was all the same, just different companies who made tools around the same encryption method. > Second: You can encrypt mail to people

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Goos
> You can start Kleopatra as standalone program which was installed by > gpg4win. Does this work? So there you can create your key. Kleopatra does not start at all at any of my Windows 10 computers, neither called from inside The Bat, not standalone from the desktop. But the alternative, GPA

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Peter Meyns
Hi Gunivortus, on Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:13:02 +0200GMT (07.04.2017, 10:13 +0200GMT here), you wrote: G> ... G> Can I now encrypt any message or only those to people who also use G> PGP? Only the latter. G> Do I have to contact them all first to ask that? Yes, unless there is another way to

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Martin
Hi, > But fourth.. > I do not understand this really. > Can I now encrypt any message or only those to people who also use > PGP? > Do I have to contact them all first to ask that? First: PGP is not GnuPG. It seems that you installed now GnuPG Second: You can encrypt mail to people where

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Martin
Hi > Under Preferences I added as the GnuPG External Key Manager the file > kleopatra.exe > which seems to be the managing GUI. > But that file does not start after calling the OpenPGP Manager in The Bat to > create the > keys. > So, I do not know how to go on now. You can start Kleopatra as

Re: Which one?

2017-04-07 Thread Goos
Guten Tag, Goos, > So I downloaded and installed GPG4Win 2.3.3. > Under Preferences I added as the GnuPG External Key Manager the file > kleopatra.exe > which seems to be the managing GUI. > But that file does not start Already for many years I failed to implement PGP in my email

Re: Which one?

2017-04-06 Thread Goos
So I downloaded and installed GPG4Win 2.3.3. After a reboot, I could choose in The Bat under Options - OpenPGP - Choose OpenPGP the version the GNU Privacy Guard... well, actually, TB already had chosen that. :-) Under Preferences I added as the GnuPG External Key Manager the file kleopatra.exe

Re: Which one?

2017-04-06 Thread Maxim Masiutin
Hello Goos, Use "GNU Privacy Guard (GPG)". Before choosing this option, you need to download and install the GNU Privacy Guard for Windows. -- Best regards, Maxim Masiutin Current version is 7.1 | 'Using TBUDL' information:

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-15 Thread Robin Anson
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 at 11:42:01 -0400, Rich wrote: AH! Ok then, so that I may possibly better my template (perhaps simplifying it to as RA suggests), the next line is: Dear %Capital(%TOFNAME=+%if:%ABToHandle:%- %if:'%ABToHandle''%ABToFirstName':'%ABToHandle':'%ABToFirstName':%ABToFirstName+)

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-14 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 21:27:59 -0400, Rich wrote: RA On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 16:03:38 +, Doug wrote: That way, even if the address says Quality Manager, your reply will say Dear Dave, Dear %ABTOFirstName, If you reply to someone who is not in your address book, you will get Dear , RA

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-13 Thread Doug Higby
Hello John, If you are dealing with a limited set of addresses, you can use the info from your address book instead. Then you match the address, and use whatever you have in the Firstname field in your address book. That way, even if the address says Quality Manager, your reply will say Dear

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-13 Thread John Phillips
Doug, On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, at 16:03:38 [GMT +] (02:03:38 14/08/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: If you are dealing with a limited set of addresses, you can use the info from your address book instead. Then you match the address, and use whatever you have in the Firstname field in

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-13 Thread Robin Anson
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 at 16:03:38 +, Doug wrote: If you are dealing with a limited set of addresses, you can use the info from your address book instead. Then you match the address, and use whatever you have in the Firstname field in your address book. That way, even if the address says

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-09 Thread Urban
Thursday, August 9, 2007, John Phillips wrote: Read in the macro help file I see a CAPITALFIRST macro, but if I add the parameter =%TONAME I get Hello Sharon smith. I really only need the first part of the name; how to do this? Use TOFNAME instead of TONAME -- Urban Franklin discovered

Re: Which one to use?

2007-08-09 Thread John Phillips
Urban, On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, at 00:01:38 [GMT +0200] (08:01:38 10/08/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: Use TOFNAME instead of TONAME Thanks! -- Regards, John Phillips Current version is 3.99 | 'Using TBUDL' information: