Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Gogle Chrome

[Joshua Gregory]

interesting thing that you mention all of this, because from what I gather,
Microsoft edge is going to move to a Google chrome codebase. should
supposedly make it better, although how, for us screen reader users, I
don't know. Should probably be the same actually. apparently they're doing
this because they're edge ml, or whatever the engine that they were using
to develop edge, wasn't doing as well as  they thought it would, so they
just thought it would be best to switch to chrome I guess.

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 5:50 AM Gordon Smith  wrote:

> There’s only one thing I used to dislike about Chrome, and that was the
> way it wrote home, so to speak, regarding where you’ve visited and
> sometimes your personal data. I believe, however, that Google has now
> changed that behaviour. So I might just reinstall it on my PC. I hate
> Microsoft Edge. It’s slow, and very unfriendly to use, I find. So on
> Windows, I went back to Internet Explorer.
>
> But that’s another area of concern for me, since Internet Explorer isn’t
> the most secure browser these days, so maybe time to retry Chrome on
> Windows.
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2019, at 14:48, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>
> I have Chrome on all my Windows systems here.
> In the early days I used to have a lot of trouble with Chrome just
> crashing for no apparent reason on Windows machines.
> This problem for the most part seems to have been addressed by the team at
> Google and I just don’t see the issue now.
> Google is lightning fast on the platforms I use it on and it works so
> that’s good enough for me.
>
>
> > On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:43 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> >
> > The Windows version didn’t impress me all that much, to be utterly
> honest. In fact, I removed it after a while. On my BrailleNote Touch,
> (which runs Android), it does work very well with speech turned off, which
> is my usual method of working.
> >
> > HumanWare also has its own browser, called “KeyWeb”. It’s similar in
> some respects to Chrome, and I suspect it’s built around similar source
> code. However, KeyWeb doesn’t show you a real version of most web pages.
> For a start, it doesn’t seem to indicate the presence of images, although
> it will display Alt Text and LongDesc elements. On the whole though, I
> prefer to use Chrome when browsing on that device.
> >
> >
> > On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:27, Dane Trethowan 
> wrote:
> >
> > Google Chrome all round is a very nice browser on whatever platform you
> choose to use it, IOS, OS, Android and Windows.
> >
> >
> >> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:21 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> >>
> >> Your points are well taken. I was going to mention the Windows example
> actually, although another one springs to mind as well. For me, for
> whatever reason, Safari on MacOS is nowhere near as effective as Google
> Chrome is on that platform. I see many, many sites where Safari either just
> displays half of the web page, whereas Chrome shows it all and makes it
> accessible. Often, Safari fails to show up frames and controls such as
> video buttons. I don’t really want to get into a MacOS discussion here,
> that’s more appropriate for Mac Access. But the point here is that the
> differences between the browsers is amazing.
> >>
> >> And yes, I am afraid I couldn’t resist it. To join the Mac Access
> mailing list, which is the sister group to this one, run on the same terms
> on the same servers, please send a blank. Message to:
> >> 
> >> Respond to the Cookie message you receive backhand you’re good to go.
> >>
> >> Now, enough about Mac and Apple. ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:04, Dane Trethowan 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> The answer to your question would very much depend on the user of the
> device.
> >> Some Apps work better with Google Talkback whilst other work better
> with Samsung Voice Assist.
> >> Samsung Voice Assist is in fact a modified version of Google Talkback
> and Google Talkback is an open source project so anyone can make changes or
> modifications as they see fit.
> >> A further example of modifications being made to Google Talkback is
> with Amazon’s VoiceView Screen Reader which is found in many Amazon Tablets
> and Echo devices with a screen such as Echo Spot and Show.
> >> The situation with Google Talkback and Voice Assistant can also be
> compared to that often encountered when using Windows on a PC.
> >> Windows users will be all-too-familiar with the situation of some
> Windows Apps being more accessible when a particular Windows Screen Reader
> is being used.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 1:44 am,  <
> mmstopk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Some I have a question. Do people use voice assistant more than
> talkback on galaxy phones? If so why?
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: Gordon Smith 
> >>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 6:18 AM
> >>> To: Techno-Chat ... Technology Enthusiasm! <
> techno-chat@techno-chat.net>
> >>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Samsung Galaxy S10 Notes
> >>>
> >>> Just one comment for the 

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: SmartSwitch App For Android

[Joshua Gregory]

oh, I honestly didn't know that. My mistake. I thought that it was a
Samsung thing completely, but it appears, from what you say, that they
customized yet another thing along with everything else they've  done. Not
a bad thing, just interesting. I think the Samsung version does work with
iCloud.

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 5:43 AM Gordon Smith  wrote:

> SmartSwitch isn’t a Samsung app actually, although I believe they have
> their own custom version. But if you look in the Google Play Store, you
> should be able to find it there. You can also get it for iOS. And actually,
> the purpose of the original app was to allow you to switch your contacts
> and data between the two OS platforms. I believe that Samsung’s app
> requires you to either have the two phones on the same WiFi network, or
> else have a USB connection between the two Android phones.
>
> And actually, therein lies the difference between the two apps.
> SmartSwitch, (which I actually have on my iPhone and on my Samsung Galaxy
> S6 Edge+), works very differently to the Samsung app. SmartSwitch makes it
> much simpler to deal with your data. The way it works is to first backup
> your data to Google, then simply run the app on the destination and
> re-download your data, job done! Actually, I believe that later versions of
> SmartSwitch will allow you to use other cloud services, such as iCloud or
> DropBox.
>
>
> On 20 Apr 2019, at 22:50, Joshua Gregory  wrote:
>
> Weird, I honestly am not sure. I do believe it is a Samsung app,so
> maybe the problem lies somewhere in that?
>
>

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Resetting Sony X Performance Xperia

[Joshua Gregory]

Weird, I honestly am not sure. I do believe it is a Samsung app,so
maybe the problem lies somewhere in that?

On 4/20/19, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> The App is available for the Sony phone.
> The problem lies in the installation process.
> I don’t think the Sony phones firmware will allow downloading of the Smart
> Switch software as the Samsung phone does during the setup process.
> Now I could very well be wrong and I’d like to hope I am, I’d like to think
> that Sony have updated their Firmware enough to allow the use of Smart
> switch during the setup process so the only way to know is for Gordon to go
> through the setup process again and then he can tell us what he finds.
>
>
>> On 21 Apr 2019, at 5:06 am, Joshua Gregory  wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It is. I have an s10e, on Xfinity in the U.S., but it does come
>> preinstalled. If you have a Sony phone, you might have to download it,
>> but it shouldn't be too difficult.
>>
>> On 4/20/19, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
>>> With the later Android setups I’ve seen the Smart Switch App - or a
>>> smaller
>>> variant - is included so you may port settings such as Wifi and
>>> Bluetooth
>>> over to your new phone thus if the user had a keyboard paired with an
>>> older
>>> phone it should work with the new upon installation.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:46 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have it reset now. I need to get that phone configured. I wish I
>>>> could
>>>> use a portable keyboard at this point, as my Google password is, as all
>>>> web-based passwords should be, very strong. Typing in the password,
>>>> accurately, is taking me forever!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:25, Dane Trethowan 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The reset procedure is found in Language and Inputs if I remember
>>>> rightly
>>>> under settings.
>>>> Just follow the prompts and the procedure should be easy in your case
>>>> given you haven’t set up any passwords or the like so its just a matter
>>>> of
>>>> answering “Yes” to the prompts.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:09 am, Gordon Smith 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, comprehensive response, that’s what I like to see from list
>>>>> members.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you remember what the reset procedure is? Wouldn’t you require
>>>>> visual
>>>>> assistance for that? I’ll try the keyboard first, never thought about
>>>>> that. The only USB keyboard I have is an. Apple one, and quite an old
>>>>> one
>>>>> at that. But I’m wondering whether the Logitech preprietary system
>>>>> would
>>>>> work if I plugged a USB dongle into the phone via an adapter. Only one
>>>>> way to find out I guess, I’ll go and give it a whir.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 16:50, Dane Trethowan 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Its been a good while since I’ve used a Son Xperia X-Performance phone
>>>>> but I can tell you that I was at the very least always able to get to
>>>>> the
>>>>> Google Play store.
>>>>> I’m quite sure that you’ll find the iCon on the home screen somewhere
>>>>> or
>>>>> at the very least you should be able to invoke a Voice Search to open
>>>>> the
>>>>> App.
>>>>> The Play Store was the first thing I tackled after completing a setup
>>>>> of
>>>>> the phone given Google is at the heart of Android phones and you need
>>>>> your Apps.
>>>>> The other alternative you have is to reset the phone and sign into
>>>>> your
>>>>> Google Play account during the setup process so that when the setup
>>>>> process is complete the phone is already signed in to Google.
>>>>> You can from here manipulate your phone from your PC or Mac by going
>>>>> to
>>>>> the Google Play store and selecting the Apps you want to install on
>>>>> your
>>>>> phone.
>>>>> In other words don’t give up just keep trying.
>>>>> You can also try plugging a USB Keyboard into the phone and navigating
>>>>> around that way to find the Google Play Store iCon.
>>>>> It is best you install

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Resetting Sony X Performance Xperia

[Joshua Gregory]

Hi,

It is. I have an s10e, on Xfinity in the U.S., but it does come
preinstalled. If you have a Sony phone, you might have to download it,
but it shouldn't be too difficult.

On 4/20/19, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> With the later Android setups I’ve seen the Smart Switch App - or a smaller
> variant - is included so you may port settings such as Wifi and Bluetooth
> over to your new phone thus if the user had a keyboard paired with an older
> phone it should work with the new upon installation.
>
>
>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 7:46 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>
>> I have it reset now. I need to get that phone configured. I wish I could
>> use a portable keyboard at this point, as my Google password is, as all
>> web-based passwords should be, very strong. Typing in the password,
>> accurately, is taking me forever!
>>
>>
>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 17:25, Dane Trethowan 
>> wrote:
>>
>> The reset procedure is found in Language and Inputs if I remember rightly
>> under settings.
>> Just follow the prompts and the procedure should be easy in your case
>> given you haven’t set up any passwords or the like so its just a matter of
>> answering “Yes” to the prompts.
>>
>>
>>> On 20 Apr 2019, at 2:09 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks, comprehensive response, that’s what I like to see from list
>>> members.
>>>
>>> Can you remember what the reset procedure is? Wouldn’t you require visual
>>> assistance for that? I’ll try the keyboard first, never thought about
>>> that. The only USB keyboard I have is an. Apple one, and quite an old one
>>> at that. But I’m wondering whether the Logitech preprietary system would
>>> work if I plugged a USB dongle into the phone via an adapter. Only one
>>> way to find out I guess, I’ll go and give it a whir.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 19 Apr 2019, at 16:50, Dane Trethowan 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Its been a good while since I’ve used a Son Xperia X-Performance phone
>>> but I can tell you that I was at the very least always able to get to the
>>> Google Play store.
>>> I’m quite sure that you’ll find the iCon on the home screen somewhere or
>>> at the very least you should be able to invoke a Voice Search to open the
>>> App.
>>> The Play Store was the first thing I tackled after completing a setup of
>>> the phone given Google is at the heart of Android phones and you need
>>> your Apps.
>>> The other alternative you have is to reset the phone and sign into your
>>> Google Play account during the setup process so that when the setup
>>> process is complete the phone is already signed in to Google.
>>> You can from here manipulate your phone from your PC or Mac by going to
>>> the Google Play store and selecting the Apps you want to install on your
>>> phone.
>>> In other words don’t give up just keep trying.
>>> You can also try plugging a USB Keyboard into the phone and navigating
>>> around that way to find the Google Play Store iCon.
>>> It is best you install your Apps from the phone if possible for a number
>>> of reasons.
>>> First being that you can look at the library of Apps you’ve purchased or
>>> installed previously on other devices so if you know what you’re looking
>>> for you can find the App there.
>>> Second when you’ve installed an App from the Play store you get the
>>> chance to open that App much as you would with the Apps Store under IOS
>>> and OS.
>>> Suppose you installed Nova Launcher through the Play store on your
>>> Phone.
>>> When the App had been installed an “Open” iCon would appear.
>>> Double-Tapping on that would prompt you as to whether you wish to use the
>>> Launcher as a default Launcher.
>>> At this point several choices would appear depending on how many
>>> launchers you have already installed, the Xperia Launcher would be one of
>>> the presented choices obviously.
>>> Double-Tap on the Nova Launcher and select the button “Always” which
>>> indicates that the nova Launcher is always to be used and then press
>>> Okay.
>>> If you wish to test the Launcher then you can choose the “Just Once”
>>> button.
>>>
>>> I’m sure the default Sony Launcher has changed somewhat since I last
>>> looked at it so getting around the phone could be a little difficult
>>> before a new launcher has been installed.
>>>
>>>
 On 19 Apr 2019, at 8:18 pm, Gordon Smith  wrote:

 Just one comment for the moment, as I don’t yet have my planned
 acquisition of the S10. On a standard phone, such as the Sony Xperia X
 Performance and Xperia Z2+ phones, how do you change the launcher?
 Sorry, but I just can’t remember. Actually, on my Xperia, I can’t even
 get to the Google settings, so I. Can’t get to the Play Store.


 On 13 Apr 2019, at 04:09, Dane Trethowan 
 wrote:

 Hi,
 Here are some interesting discoveries I’ve made with regard to the
 operation of the Samsung Galaxy S10.
 Some of these are probably old favourites to  other users out there and
 if that’s the case both bare with me and feel free to comment on
 anything 

Re: [Techno-Chat]: The mysteries Of Microsoft's Skype

[Joshua Gregory]

All very true, hadn't thought of it in that way but it is a good point.

On 2/1/18, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Fact is that consumers and business are people alike and both use video
> conferencing, I can see a wide variety of applications for video
> conferencing in the consumer domain such as user group meetings and so on.
>
>
>> On 1 Feb 2018, at 11:13 pm, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>>
>> Business users are consumers as well, you know. ;-)
>>
>> But no, it’s across the board. The whole Skype situation has now changed,
>> predictably, since it’s all now under the Microsoft banner.
>>
>> 
>>
>> My compliments and kindest regards
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>>
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>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 23:21, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com
>> <mailto:joshtg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> That's for consumers too? I thought it was just for business,
>> interesting.
>>
>> On 1/31/18, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net
>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>>> Yes they do have a free account on the site for personal use I believe.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/02/2018 5:29 AM, The wolf wrote:
>>>> they have a free account on that site?
>>>> I thought you had to pay with zoom.us <http://zoom.us/>?
>>>> thanks
>>>> Hank
>>>>
>>>> On 1/31/2018 3:26 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>>>> I know a lot of people who are talking about a new site offering
>>>>> audio and video conference facilities http://www.zoom.us
>>>>> <http://www.zoom.us/> and that’s
>>>>> only one site so I’m sure there are dozens of others.
>>>>> According to those I’ve spoken to the audio and video attributes are
>>>>> entirely customisable or you can have the site do that work for you
>>>>> depending on your needs and that customisation is exactly what Skype
>>>>> lacks and everything else has, even my VOIP phone allows full
>>>>> customisation of audio depending on what sort of Network connection
>>>>> you have and the sort of phone system you’re running.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 8:44 pm, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net
>>>>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>
>>>>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Absolutely not. Microsoft faces stiff competition from several
>>>>>> providers now and that, it has to be said, is no bad thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My compliments and kindest regards
>>>>>> Gordon Smith:
>>>>>> <gor...@mac-access.net <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>
>>>>>> <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net <mailto:gor...@mac-access.net>>>
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: The mysteries Of Microsoft's Skype

[Joshua Gregory]

That's for consumers too? I thought it was just for business, interesting.

On 1/31/18, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> Yes they do have a free account on the site for personal use I believe.
>
>
>
> On 1/02/2018 5:29 AM, The wolf wrote:
>> they have a free account on that site?
>> I thought you had to pay with zoom.us?
>> thanks
>> Hank
>>
>> On 1/31/2018 3:26 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>>> I know a lot of people who are talking about a new site offering
>>> audio and video conference facilities http://www.zoom.us and that’s
>>> only one site so I’m sure there are dozens of others.
>>> According to those I’ve spoken to the audio and video attributes are
>>> entirely customisable or you can have the site do that work for you
>>> depending on your needs and that customisation is exactly what Skype
>>> lacks and everything else has, even my VOIP phone allows full
>>> customisation of audio depending on what sort of Network connection
>>> you have and the sort of phone system you’re running.
>>>
>>>
 On 31 Jan 2018, at 8:44 pm, Gordon Smith > wrote:

 Absolutely not. Microsoft faces stiff competition from several
 providers now and that, it has to be said, is no bad thing.

 

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 On 31 Jan 2018, at 09:34, Dane Trethowan > wrote:

 So we watch to see how this all plays out.

 One thing is for certain, Skype no longer have the marketplace to
 themselves as they once did not all that long ago.


 On 31/01/2018 8:16 PM, Gordon Smith wrote:
> On my two new Minix machines, I logged into Windows using my
> Microsoft account and, before I know it, Skype is being installed
> and there’s no way to remove it. So yes, it’s now an integral part
> of Windows 10 it would appear. I have been anticipating that move
> ever since Microsoft acquired the Skype business. It makes sense, I
> guess, from their perspective to do that. Although I’m not sure
> it’s a very positive move from the consumer’s point of view.
>
> After all, I know lots of people who use Windows, but have no
> inclination whatsoever to use Skype. They use Windows 10 Enterprise
> at work, a lot of them, and as I say, they can neither remove it,
> nor prevent it from activating when they power up their machines in
> the morning to begin their daily work.
>
> 
>
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> On 30 Jan 2018, at 20:38, Dane Trethowan  > wrote:
>
> Thanks and sorry as I didn’t pick up your point.
>
>
>> On 31 Jan 2018, at 7:13 am, Gordon Smith > > wrote:
>>
>> That’s what I was saying the other day.
>>
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Installing Windows From The Ground Up

[Joshua Gregory]

LOL sorry meant booting from a device only works with 1709, but
booting into recovery on your hard drive works in 1703 as well.

On 1/31/18, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just a note/thought, you might be able to do it with the use a device
> option in recovery mode, which works with the initial creator's
> update. As for booting from recovery working, I think it is indeed the
> Fall one.
>
> On 1/31/18, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> Hello everybody
>>
>> For quite a while, I’ve been looking around for information as to how to
>> install Windows 10 from the ground up. The support people at Site & Sound
>> here in the UK gave me a hint as to how this is accomplished. However,
>> the
>> reason I couldn’t get it to work was because they made one glaring
>> mistake,
>> and I must credit Mr. Trethowan for giving me the heads-up as to their
>> error. So, for the benefit of anybody who may be able to use this
>> information, here’s how you do it.
>>
>> • As a prerequisite for this process to work with accessibility enabled,
>> you
>> must have Windows 10 Fall Creator’s Update, (Build 1709) at the earliest.
>> • You must create a bootable Windows 10 media device from which to start
>> the
>> process
>> • Your computer’s BIOS or EFI BIOS must be configured to allow boot from
>> USB
>> or DVD as a primary device. The method you use to accomplish this depends
>> upon your machine. From memory, if you have an American MegaTrends Inc.
>> BIOS, you can find the setting for this on the main screen once you
>> sercomvent any BIOS passwords which are configured. If you have a
>> Gigabyte
>> BIOS, you need to go into the Advanced Functions screen and scroll down
>> to
>> Boot Sequence. Naturally, there’s no method of accomplishing either of
>> these
>> tasks with accessibility
>> • Another way you might get your machine to boot, if you have somebody
>> with
>> sight close at hand, is by activating the boot menu which appears on many
>> systems just before the hard disk boot begins. If you can do this, you
>> can
>> then scroll down to your desired boot media and just hit enter. But we’ll
>> assume you don’t have eyes at hand, and proceed
>> • Once you have these preconditions satisfied, place your boot media into
>> the drive, and power-cycle the machine
>> • When you’ve done this, go make yourself a coffee, cup of tea or
>> whatever
>> tickles your fancy, and leave your computer to its own devices, (pardon
>> the
>> pun), for a few minutes
>> • When you return to the machine, press Windows+Control+Enter and
>> assuming
>> your sound device is a fairly modern standardised one, you should be able
>> t
>> use Narrator from that point onwards.
>>
>> Actually, since its dark days of Windows 98/Vista/2000, Narrator has
>> evolved
>> out of sight. Indeed, even since Windows 10’s initial roll-out, it has
>> improved markedly. Although a little tedious in some ways, Narrator is now
>> a
>> perfectly acceptable tool, at least until you can get something more
>> substantial installed.
>>
>> HTH.
>>
>> 
>>
>> My compliments and kindest regards
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Installing Windows From The Ground Up

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Just a note/thought, you might be able to do it with the use a device
option in recovery mode, which works with the initial creator's
update. As for booting from recovery working, I think it is indeed the
Fall one.

On 1/31/18, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> Hello everybody
>
> For quite a while, I’ve been looking around for information as to how to
> install Windows 10 from the ground up. The support people at Site & Sound
> here in the UK gave me a hint as to how this is accomplished. However, the
> reason I couldn’t get it to work was because they made one glaring mistake,
> and I must credit Mr. Trethowan for giving me the heads-up as to their
> error. So, for the benefit of anybody who may be able to use this
> information, here’s how you do it.
>
> • As a prerequisite for this process to work with accessibility enabled, you
> must have Windows 10 Fall Creator’s Update, (Build 1709) at the earliest.
> • You must create a bootable Windows 10 media device from which to start the
> process
> • Your computer’s BIOS or EFI BIOS must be configured to allow boot from USB
> or DVD as a primary device. The method you use to accomplish this depends
> upon your machine. From memory, if you have an American MegaTrends Inc.
> BIOS, you can find the setting for this on the main screen once you
> sercomvent any BIOS passwords which are configured. If you have a Gigabyte
> BIOS, you need to go into the Advanced Functions screen and scroll down to
> Boot Sequence. Naturally, there’s no method of accomplishing either of these
> tasks with accessibility
> • Another way you might get your machine to boot, if you have somebody with
> sight close at hand, is by activating the boot menu which appears on many
> systems just before the hard disk boot begins. If you can do this, you can
> then scroll down to your desired boot media and just hit enter. But we’ll
> assume you don’t have eyes at hand, and proceed
> • Once you have these preconditions satisfied, place your boot media into
> the drive, and power-cycle the machine
> • When you’ve done this, go make yourself a coffee, cup of tea or whatever
> tickles your fancy, and leave your computer to its own devices, (pardon the
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> • When you return to the machine, press Windows+Control+Enter and assuming
> your sound device is a fairly modern standardised one, you should be able t
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>
> Actually, since its dark days of Windows 98/Vista/2000, Narrator has evolved
> out of sight. Indeed, even since Windows 10’s initial roll-out, it has
> improved markedly. Although a little tedious in some ways, Narrator is now a
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[Techno-Chat]: Amazon/tablets

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 isn't quite as well built as an iPad but its a tough build
> all the same as all modern Samsung phones and tablets seem to be thus should
> last you hears to come.
>
> I'm working on a series of audio demos for the Samsung Galaxy Book 12 at the
> moment and will release them shortly.
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> On 11/15/2017 7:32 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> The latest model is called the PixelBook. The main advantage is that there
>> is now full 100% Android app support built-in which means, of course, that
>> you can install TalkBack and BrailleBack. Specs look quite good, although
>> I still think that the Samsung Galaxy Books, based on what I’ve read and
>> what I’ve been told, offer a better alternative.
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>>
>> I'll have to take a look at that, thank you!
>> On
>> Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 12:07 AM Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net
>> <mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> No first hand experience hereas yet.
>>> I've thought about getting a Chromebook to look at and I do know someone
>>> who uses a Chromebook fulltime, he's totally blind and loves it, he came
>>> from using an Apple Mac Mini and Voiceover.
>>> Further to this, may I suggest you look up the AFB Access World
>>> magazine.
>>> There you'll find a series of reviews and articles that have tracked the
>>> Chromebook and the Screen Reading technology.
>>>
>>> On 11/10/2017 1:34 PM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello,
>>> > I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences with Chromebooks
>>> > and the chromevox screen reader. What were your experiences? Did you
>>> > like it, did you not? Was there anything that stood out to you in
>>> > comparison to, say, windows and nvda or narrator? Thanks very much!
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Experiences with Chromebooks

[Joshua Gregory]

Ah OK, thanks!

On 11/14/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> The latest model is called the PixelBook. The main advantage is that there
> is now full 100% Android app support built-in which means, of course, that
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> still think that the Samsung Galaxy Books, based on what I’ve read and what
> I’ve been told, offer a better alternative.
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> I'll have to take a look at that, thank you!
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> Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 12:07 AM Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net
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> Hi!
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> No first hand experience hereas yet.
>
> I've thought about getting a Chromebook to look at and I do know someone
> who uses a Chromebook fulltime, he's totally blind and loves it, he came
> from using an Apple Mac Mini and Voiceover.
>
> Further to this, may I suggest you look up the AFB Access World magazine.
>
> There you'll find a series of reviews and articles that have tracked the
> Chromebook and the Screen Reading technology.
>
>
> On 11/10/2017 1:34 PM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences with Chromebooks
>> and the chromevox screen reader. What were your experiences? Did you
>> like it, did you not? Was there anything that stood out to you in
>> comparison to, say, windows and nvda or narrator? Thanks very much!
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home Mini

[Joshua Gregory]

That sounds awesome.

On Nov 10, 2017 12:34 AM, "Dane Trethowan"  wrote:

> I received mine this morning, a nice neat little device which will sit
> perfectly on my bedside table.
>
> I've found out quite by accident just how helpful Google Home can be in
> the kitchen - that's where my bigger unit is -.
>
> Say to Google soemthing like, "Okay Google, How To Cook Porterhouse Steak"
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Experiences with Chromebooks

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I'll have to take a look at that, thank you!

On

Fri, Nov 10, 2017, 12:07 AM Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:

Hi!

No first hand experience hereas yet.

I've thought about getting a Chromebook to look at and I do know someone
who uses a Chromebook fulltime, he's totally blind and loves it, he came
from using an Apple Mac Mini and Voiceover.

Further to this, may I suggest you look up the AFB Access World magazine.

There you'll find a series of reviews and articles that have tracked the
Chromebook and the Screen Reading technology.

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> Hello,
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[Techno-Chat]: Experiences with Chromebooks

[Joshua Gregory]

Hello,
I was wondering if anybody has had any experiences with Chromebooks and the
chromevox screen reader. What were your experiences? Did you like it, did
you not? Was there anything that stood out to you in comparison to, say,
windows and nvda or narrator? Thanks very much!

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Reading Versus Listening

[Joshua Gregory]

No actually you do have a point. There is a difference. Hadn't thought
about it that way but it's true.

On 11/9/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> Main stream is certainly cheaper, once you have the phone itself, that is.
> Actually I’m going to. Look at the Android Audible client, because I also
> use Audible books quite a lot. You’re right, Josh, they have actually a
> tremendous amount of professionally recorded materials.
>
> But you know, Josh, there are an awful lot of great text and Kindle books
> around, and some of them are both entertaining and informative. Reading is,
> in my view, not just about recreation. It’s also about information learning.
> And I really think that Amazon’s independent publishing service is something
> worth looking at for both potential publishers and for reading enthusiasts.
>
> I personally don’t classify listening to audiobooks as “Reading”. But that’s
> just me. That’s listening to somebody else doing the reading. I often read
> stuff on my Braille display, courtesy of the Internet. That is what I
> classify as “Reading literature”. But to each their own.
>
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> I don't read much but when I do I use Audible. Sure they don't have
> everything, but they do have a lot, and while you do have to pay for
> the books they're professionally done. I do feel that blindness stuff
> is quite expensive, I do get what is said here, but for a lot of folks
> mainstream is more affordable and easier for this reason.
>
> On 11/8/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> I'd like to take a slightly different tac if I may and pose a question,
>> I wonder how relevant all these talking book player this and talking
>> book player that may be in the future with the advent of Amazon Echo,
>> Google Home and so on.
>>
>> I find myself reading more books with my Amazon Echo these days through
>> audible though Audible too does have some disadvantages but in the main
>> Amazon Echo is a truly delightful tool for book reading.
>>
>> Issue voice commands to navigate through your book, bookmark, set sleep
>> timers and so on.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/2017 7:08 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>> Read the article. The primary differences are convenience and
>>> all-in-the-same-place functionality. David’s point is valid, regarding
>>> swiping around. Certainly on iOS it is, at any rate. But I’m not so
>>> sure that an Android user who knows their way around the system would
>>> find it such a chore. This is due, in my opinion, to the fact that the
>>> entire interface under Android is consistently better than it is under
>>> iOS.
>>>
>>> But again, if the user is happy with iOS, then more power to them.
>>>
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>>> On 8 Nov 2017, at 19:48, joe quinn <jdawg1...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:jdawg1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> what's the difference between ios and the stream then? you can do the
>>> same thing with ios devices that you can with the stream
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Accessible Services For All; Or Not?

[Joshua Gregory]

Serious question. How do you guys do it? That's... damn.

On 11/9/17, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> I think you’re looking at this from the sole perspective of the US consumer.
> Believe it or not, there is intelligent life beyond the Atlantic and Pacific
> Ocean base. ;-)
>
> In other countries, such agencies simply don’t exist. Blind and other
> disabled people over here, for instance, can only get aid if they require it
> for their professional lives. The rest are left to either come up with the
> dosh themselves, or do without! And that is a strong argument in favour of
> main stream technologies.
>
> After all, as Dane quite rightly points out, one can simply pay something
> like $50.00 U.S, and there you are with a more than usable device. Even with
> the smallest Google Home or Amazon Echo Dot, you can get hundreds of hours
> of pleasure from listening to audio content both locally and on the
> Internet.
>
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> On 9 Nov 2017, at 02:20, The wolf  wrote:
>
> as long as the voc rehab agencies continue too purchase these devices there
> are going to be priced really high
>
> pritty much 99.9 percent of blind people don't even make a income to
> aford these high end devices myself included
>
> 700.00 a month is my total income 581 of that money pays the rent
>
> the rest has to cover everything utilities food for my guide dog the basic
> needs
>
> thank god fore food stamps.
>
> so the voc rehab agencies are getting them fore the clients
> when all the funding dries up from the agencies it is going to  be really
> interesting to see what companies end up by going out of business.
> I understand that this is a nitch market
> but these AT companies can only do this fore so long
> On 11/8/2017 7:11 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
>> Its tipical Humanware though really isn't it? Late to the party yet
>> again.
>>
>> There is a segment of the population that can't access an IOS or Android
>> device so perhaps Humanware's device may be useful for those people.
>>
>> What's the betting too that this device is using out of date hardware?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/9/2017 5:47 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>>> Hello everybody
>>>
>>> Sadly, HumanWare has put their device beyond the reach of many, yet
>>> again. And not only that, but they’ve made it an untenable product, in my
>>> view. Everything it does, you can do via iOS and Android. That includes
>>> playing talking books and, I’m pretty sure, DAISY content.
>>>
>>> Given that the main stream devices have so much more to offer than simply
>>> being a book player and a GPS navigator, I don’t really think they’re on
>>> to a winner this time.
>>>
>>> Sure, the functionality is easy to use, and accessible. But then again,
>>> most people would find it just as easy to use a smart phone with GPS, and
>>> something to the tune of the Seeing Eye, (RNIB) Navigator.
>>>
>>> But make up your own minds. I’m just expressing my humble opinion as
>>> somebody who is looking to start advising clients on this sort of ting
>>> professionally. My take on this is, sadly, it won’t last long.
>>>
 http://store.humanware.com/heu/victor-reader-trek-talking-book-player-gps.html
 

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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: Humanware - Victor Reader Trek – talking book player & GPS - Victor Reader Talking Book Players (Stream & Stratus) - Blindness - Low Vision Aids for Macular Degen

[Joshua Gregory]

I don't read much but when I do I use Audible. Sure they don't have
everything, but they do have a lot, and while you do have to pay for
the books they're professionally done. I do feel that blindness stuff
is quite expensive, I do get what is said here, but for a lot of folks
mainstream is more affordable and easier for this reason.

On 11/8/17, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> I'd like to take a slightly different tac if I may and pose a question,
> I wonder how relevant all these talking book player this and talking
> book player that may be in the future with the advent of Amazon Echo,
> Google Home and so on.
>
> I find myself reading more books with my Amazon Echo these days through
> audible though Audible too does have some disadvantages but in the main
> Amazon Echo is a truly delightful tool for book reading.
>
> Issue voice commands to navigate through your book, bookmark, set sleep
> timers and so on.
>
>
>
> On 11/9/2017 7:08 AM, Gordon Smith wrote:
>> Read the article. The primary differences are convenience and
>> all-in-the-same-place functionality. David’s point is valid, regarding
>> swiping around. Certainly on iOS it is, at any rate. But I’m not so
>> sure that an Android user who knows their way around the system would
>> find it such a chore. This is due, in my opinion, to the fact that the
>> entire interface under Android is consistently better than it is under
>> iOS.
>>
>> But again, if the user is happy with iOS, then more power to them.
>>
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>> On 8 Nov 2017, at 19:48, joe quinn > > wrote:
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>> what's the difference between ios and the stream then? you can do the
>> same thing with ios devices that you can with the stream
>>
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Article: Google Docs users locked out of their files in glitch that raises deeper concerns

[Joshua Gregory]

and for that matter anything online... sure perhaps local clouds but
beyond that... and companies share everything about us anyway. We
might not like it but it's the age we live in.

On 11/3/17, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> There’s no such thing as privacy on Google.
>
>
> **
> “For the gardener nothing is more handier than bulbs, I mean the 1’s you put
> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>
>
>
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>> On 4 Nov 2017, at 1:12 am, Gordon Smith  wrote:
>>
>> Having read this article, I think you are totally missing the point. This
>> has absolutely nothing to do with advertising. It has to do with a breech
>> of privacy. If Google’s personnel are monitoring your documents, then it
>> could result in serious breeches of both privacy and confidentiality.
>>
>> I personally never, ever, use Google Docs, or any other free cloud access.
>> You’re correct is saying it’s free for a reason. But for Google to dictate
>> what people can and cannot do with their own personal documents or
>> professional projects is, quite Franky, outrageous. It’s precisely why
>> I’ve never trusted cloud providers who offer “free” access.
>>
>> But, of course, we all know about Google’s browser Chrome, which routinely
>> writes home to Google with your browsing history. That’s an established
>> fact. In that context, I would be very reluctant to use Chrome for things
>> like online purchasing where you need to provide payment details. If, (and
>> I make no claims against Google here), if indeed they do collect all of
>> your browsing history and also input to websites, that really could
>> constitutes a security hole for the user.
>>
>> All of which just goes to prove that no operating system on the planet can
>> guarantee your total security.
>>
>> Whilst there are obvious advantages to them as well, modern cookies can be
>> so sophisticated that we often have no idea what’s being sent via the
>> cookies and to whom. I know that many analysts have issues with this.
>> There have been a lot of publications on this very point to and by
>> technology journalists.
>>
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>> On 1 Nov 2017, at 20:22, Dane Trethowan > > wrote:
>>
>> I really don’t know what all the fuss is about.
>> Google Docs is a free service so you use it at your own risk.
>> Yep, Google collects data and has always done to provide you with their
>> free service thanks to the support of advertisers who won’t advertise with
>> Google unless they know something about the audience.
>>
>>
>>> http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/google-docs-users-locked-out-of-their-files-in-glitch-that-raises-deeper-concerns-20171101-gzcmsw.html?deviceType=text
>>> 
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [vi-android] Seems as Samsung Note 8 do not support Talkbak during "Handwriting mode"

[Joshua Gregory]

Oh ok, that makes more sense. Thanks.

On 10/14/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Perhaps I didn’t quite explain what I meant when I spoke of “Printing” and
> “Hand Writing”, when you “Print” with a pen you write each letter separately
> so it stands out - I’ve seen cases where people have “Printed” on a page
> with a pen and a piece of OCR software has recognised the page.
> “Hand Writing” varies all over the place and each person has their own style
> of “Hand Writing”, indeed Samsung’s S-Pen with the Note8 recognises this and
> acknowledges 3000 pressure levels of writing with the pen.
>
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>> On 15 Oct 2017, at 7:06 am, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah definitely a good point.
>>
>> On 10/14/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> Yep absolutely right.
>>>
>>> I know Apple cfall it "Hand Writing Mode" for IOS but to me its' more
>>> like "Printing Mode", there's a difference between printing and hand
>>> writing with a pen.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/15/2017 1:47 AM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
>>>> iOS does have handwriting in VoiceOver but something tells me that's
>>>> completely different since you use your hand and not a pen.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>>>> The question is can Samsung realistically do anything about the
>>>>> accessibility hand-writing of the Samsung Note8?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that - with the Note4 - I did some testing.
>>>>>
>>>>> My Father was able to scribble some notes with the S-Pen and translate
>>>>> them into text which he then sent me via eMail.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure the same sort of process could be repeated with the Note8 but
>>>>> having Talkback actually speak the hand writing as its written? Well
>>>>> that's a different ball game altogether I should think.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/14/2017 3:42 AM, Nilsen, Espen Raa wrote:
>>>>>> *Hello friends!*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Seems as Samsung Note 8 do not support Talkbak during "Handwriting
>>>>>> mode". Samsung support does not promise a fix for this error in their
>>>>>> Android version (Touch wiz).*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Do anyone know if it will be possible to install pure Android on a
>>>>>> Samsung Note 8?*
>>>>>>
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [vi-android] Seems as Samsung Note 8 do not support Talkbak during "Handwriting mode"

[Joshua Gregory]

Yeah definitely a good point.

On 10/14/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Yep absolutely right.
>
> I know Apple cfall it "Hand Writing Mode" for IOS but to me its' more
> like "Printing Mode", there's a difference between printing and hand
> writing with a pen.
>
>
>
> On 10/15/2017 1:47 AM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
>> iOS does have handwriting in VoiceOver but something tells me that's
>> completely different since you use your hand and not a pen.
>>
>> On 10/14/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> The question is can Samsung realistically do anything about the
>>> accessibility hand-writing of the Samsung Note8?
>>>
>>> I know that - with the Note4 - I did some testing.
>>>
>>> My Father was able to scribble some notes with the S-Pen and translate
>>> them into text which he then sent me via eMail.
>>>
>>> I'm sure the same sort of process could be repeated with the Note8 but
>>> having Talkback actually speak the hand writing as its written? Well
>>> that's a different ball game altogether I should think.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/14/2017 3:42 AM, Nilsen, Espen Raa wrote:
>>>> *Hello friends!*
>>>>
>>>> *Seems as Samsung Note 8 do not support Talkbak during "Handwriting
>>>> mode". Samsung support does not promise a fix for this error in their
>>>> Android version (Touch wiz).*
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> *Do anyone know if it will be possible to install pure Android on a
>>>> Samsung Note 8?*
>>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>> *Regards, Espen *
>>>>
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>>> you
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [vi-android] Seems as Samsung Note 8 do not support Talkbak during "Handwriting mode"

[Joshua Gregory]

iOS does have handwriting in VoiceOver but something tells me that's
completely different since you use your hand and not a pen.

On 10/14/17, Dane Trethowan  wrote:
> The question is can Samsung realistically do anything about the
> accessibility hand-writing of the Samsung Note8?
>
> I know that - with the Note4 - I did some testing.
>
> My Father was able to scribble some notes with the S-Pen and translate
> them into text which he then sent me via eMail.
>
> I'm sure the same sort of process could be repeated with the Note8 but
> having Talkback actually speak the hand writing as its written? Well
> that's a different ball game altogether I should think.
>
>
>
> On 10/14/2017 3:42 AM, Nilsen, Espen Raa wrote:
>>
>> *Hello friends!*
>>
>> *Seems as Samsung Note 8 do not support Talkbak during "Handwriting
>> mode". Samsung support does not promise a fix for this error in their
>> Android version (Touch wiz).*
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Do anyone know if it will be possible to install pure Android on a
>> Samsung Note 8?*
>>
>> **
>>
>> *Regards, Espen *
>>
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Device To Device Calling: Google Versus Amazon

[Joshua Gregory]

Not sure about the subject lines... I use the mobile version of gmail,
maybe that has something to do with it?

Payment plans, I meant for the pixel 2, google calling is free as far
as I know, sorry for the confusion.

On 10/7/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> Josh, I` wonder why your mail client is replicating the subject lines?
>
> As I think I said in another message, the Amazon Alexa to Alexa device or
> Alexa app calling is totally free of charge. So it obviously isn’t the same
> as the Google service. That fact makes me feel a bit better because were
> they to do that over here I wouldn’t be prepared to pay for the privilege.
> ;-)
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> Gordon, in the US I've heard they'll have payment plans, but not sure
> about the UK.
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> On 10/6/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> This is just confirming what I sent a little while ago. But I don’t see
>> anything about making calls via it and, I wonder, is this Google’s
>> intended
>> direction given the launch last week, at least here in the UK, of the
>> Google
>> Pixel2 smart phone. I’d love one, but the price, youch! £699.00 from
>> Google
>> online. No, not justified at the moment.
>>
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>> On 6 Oct 2017, at 14:07, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thought this may interest other list members, seems that Amazon aren’t
>> the
>> only people busy with launching new products and services.
>>
>>
>>> https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1
>>> <https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1>
>>
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: google Home Mini – Smart Small Speaker – Google Store

[Joshua Gregory]

Nope, meant for the pixel 2, sorry.

On 10/7/17, gor...@mac-access.net <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> So it isn’t going to be the same as Amazon are doing then. The Alexa calling
> is completely free of charge, and it works globally.
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Joshua Gregory [mailto:joshtg...@gmail.com]
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> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home
> Mini – Smart Small Speaker – Google Store
>
> Gordon, in the US I've heard they'll have payment plans, but not sure about
> the UK.
>
> On 10/6/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> This is just confirming what I sent a little while ago. But I don’t
>> see anything about making calls via it and, I wonder, is this Google’s
>> intended direction given the launch last week, at least here in the
>> UK, of the Google
>> Pixel2 smart phone. I’d love one, but the price, youch! £699.00 from
>> Google online. No, not justified at the moment.
>>
>> 
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>> On 6 Oct 2017, at 14:07, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
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>>> https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo
>>> m_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home Mini – Smart Small Speaker – Google Store

[Joshua Gregory]

Gordon, in the US I've heard they'll have payment plans, but not sure
about the UK.

On 10/6/17, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> This is just confirming what I sent a little while ago. But I don’t see
> anything about making calls via it and, I wonder, is this Google’s intended
> direction given the launch last week, at least here in the UK, of the Google
> Pixel2 smart phone. I’d love one, but the price, youch! £699.00 from Google
> online. No, not justified at the moment.
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>
>> https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home Mini – Smart Small Speaker

[Joshua Gregory]

Maybe it will launch in the UK in the future, but honestly not sure.

On 10/6/17, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> This is just damned typical! I hate that, I really do! I just hate companies
> who seem to. Believe that no intelligent life forms exist outside of the
> United States of America, and Canada. OK, so be it! I’ve just cancelled my
> order for the Google Home Mini. I refuse to be treated as a second class
> citizen. They still want our money, but we get less value.
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home Mini – Smart Small Speaker – Google Store

[Joshua Gregory]

OK, got it. Looks like it's only supported in the US and Canada. Here you go.

https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7363847?co=GENIE.Platform%3DAndroid=en

On 10/6/17, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will have to take another look, maybe I was wrong or maybe it's a
> feature that's coming.
>
> On 10/6/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
>> I have a Google Home and it doesn’t look like you can place calls on it.
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>> I have to say all that stuff does look nice. And while you can indeed
>> do all the calling stuff with echo, google home now can too it
>> appears. Competition is nice.
>>
>> On 10/6/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>> Thought this may interest other list members, seems that Amazon aren’t
>>> the
>>> only people busy with launching new products and services.
>>>
>>>
>>>> https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1
>>>> <https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1>
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home Mini – Smart Small Speaker – Google Store

[Joshua Gregory]

Will have to take another look, maybe I was wrong or maybe it's a
feature that's coming.

On 10/6/17, Gordon Smith <gor...@mac-access.net> wrote:
> I have a Google Home and it doesn’t look like you can place calls on it.
>
> 
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> On 6 Oct 2017, at 17:12, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have to say all that stuff does look nice. And while you can indeed
> do all the calling stuff with echo, google home now can too it
> appears. Competition is nice.
>
> On 10/6/17, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> Thought this may interest other list members, seems that Amazon aren’t
>> the
>> only people busy with launching new products and services.
>>
>>
>>> https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1
>>> <https://store.google.com/product/google_home_mini?utm_source=promo_medium=email_crm_campaign=GS100233_term=learn_more_1>
>>
>>
>>
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>> put
>> in the ground and not the electric light 1’s.”
>>
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: Google Home Mini – Smart Small Speaker – Google Store

[Joshua Gregory]

I have to say all that stuff does look nice. And while you can indeed
do all the calling stuff with echo, google home now can too it
appears. Competition is nice.

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Re: [Techno-Chat]: iMac recovery utility with Voiceover

[Joshua Gregory]

Hi,

I think I might remember running into something like this. If I
remember correctly, if the system volume is adequate and VO is still
low, adjusting the voiceover volume itself may help. Maybe this has
changed since I last used it, but just thought I'd pass it on.

On 6/27/17, David Griffith  wrote:
>
> I know what you mean about the volume problem. From similar enquiries
> elsewhere there is no way to adjust volume in Recovery.
>
> What I use is the FiiO A1 Mini Portable Headphone Amplifier for this sort of
> job. Just plug the usb connection lead into your iMac to provide power to
> the amplifier via the micro usb cable provided, and  then connect the
> amplifier via the 3.5 leads provided to your 3.5  socket on your iMac. Then
> turn on the amplifier - it is the button furthest away from the headphone
> socket. Hold it down for about 3 seconds to turn on. The volume up is the
> button closest to the headphone socket and the volume down is alongside.
> Plug your earphones / headphones into the amplifier and you are good to go.
> Once the amplifier is on pressing the on off button briefly cycles through
> loudness profiles. Hold down the same button to turn off.
>
> I use several of these amplifiers with different annoyingly quiet devices.
> They apparently do not work with digital radios but I have not personally
> tried this.
>
> They are pretty cheap for what they do on Amazon. I bought mine for about
> £20.
> If the latest iMac does not have 3.5inch socket then I am afraid words like
> without a paddle and creek come to mind.
> David Griffith
> David Griffith
>
> and
> -Original Message-
> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net]
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> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: [Techno-Chat]: iMac recovery utility with Voiceover
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> Hi!
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> I'm currently in the middle of reinstalling Mac OS on my iMac, I've been
> having an issue with Sound Forge for Mac hwich has prevented me from
> entering any activation information for the application, every time I've
> tried to enter information - or even run the Application I get a
> "Registration Error" and the software quits so perhaps the way around this
> is a full and complete reinstall of everything from the ground up bypassing
> the Mac Migration Wizard -.
>
> The whole procedure will be straight forward but the main thing that's
> irritating me right now is the incredibly low audio volume of Voiceover
> whilst in the recovery utility so if anyone knows if its possible to raise
> the volume here then I'd really like to hear about it, I suspect that I'll
> just have to struggle on though.
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Re: [Techno-Chat]: Article: Pandora Premium to take on Spotify, Apple, early next year

[Joshua Gregory]

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Running Windows 10 here with the latest version of NVDA.

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> Just goes to show I shouldn't take too much notice of people sometimes
> on other eMail lists <smile< I can't say that I've ever tried the
> Spotify Windows app myself.
>
> So under what version of windows did you use the Spotify App? I'm using
> Windows 10 now on my Desktop so - since I'm installing this, that and
> the other onto the Desktop machine rihgt now - I may as well go find
> Spotify, put the App through its paces and see what I can get out of it.
>
> I have several Screen reading packages installed on my System here
> including JAWS 18, Window-Eyes, NVDA and System Access.
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>> For me the Spotify app for Windows works all right, I use a
>> combination of table and landmark navigation along with a keyboard
>> shortcut for search. Don't use it as much anymore but last time I did
>> wasn't long ago and it worked.
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>>> I use Spotify on mobile platforms - Samsung Galaxy S6 and on my Apple
>>> iPhone - and I use Spotify on the Mac through a third party App called
>>> Musicality which handles Spotify, Pandora and Google Music amongst other
>>> streaming services.
>>>
>>> I also use spotify on my Denon AVR-2113 receiver in the loung along with
>>> a whole heap of other "Spotify Connect" devices I have like the Sangean
>>> Internet radio sets and the Logitech Smart Radio sets.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I've found no accessible way of using Spotify with a
>>> Windows computer.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[Techno-Chat]: Re: [Techno-Chat]: RE: [Techno-Chat]: Article: Saying Goodbye to the Mac – Mosen Consulting

[Joshua Gregory]

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A couple things here,

I've said this before, and you can disagree, but as the population
ages there will be more and more people who may have disabilities.
This is going to create problems in the near future, if things don't
improve especially in the arena of new tech. Also, personally for me,
Windows is alright, although it'd be nice if the recovery environment
were accessible ,but that's a small thing. Current tech as it stands?
At least we can do stuff even if it might be a bit limited and even
that, I feel, is a personal viewpoint. Finally and this is meant with
respect, while it is great that you are able to compile and stuff, not
everyone is, so we're stuck with what we have. And while I do agree
with you to a point about planned obsolescence, it's just the nature
of the world we now live in, things break down, malfunction etc and we
have to keep up, whether we like it or not.

Just my thoughts,

Josh

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> I do not have a modern up to date mac, the newest one I have is a 2008
> macbook.  I've been increasingly puzzled by apple's propensity to remove
> functionality with each update of their hardware.  It seems to be a
> growing trend.  Back in 2005 when voiceover was first announced, I was
> very happy, and jumped into the mac with both feet.  However, at the
> time, I spoke (to multiple people) that I was afraid that this
> accessibility thing apple was doing was going to begin with a bang, then
> slowly fade out, leaving the mac unusable for any serious work.  It
> appears that is exactly what has happened, and I've not seen it, because
> I haven't been able to afford an upgrade to the newest macs, so still
> work on 10.6 and 10.7 with my ancient macbooks.  I've also spent the
> last 2 or 3 years macless, because all of mine had slowly broken down,
> and being unable to replace them, I simply moved to other devices.
> While IOS seems to be usable still, I have to wonder how deep this rot
> goes, and if it will infect the IOS brand of devices as it has the OSX
> brand of devices.  I sincerely hope not, but one thing that has always
> irked me to no end is the whole planned obsolescence thing.  Seriously,
> what's wrong with my 2008 macbook? Nothing at all, but it won't run the
> newer os versions, it won't run most newer software, it won't do half
> the things it used to do, and why? For no other reason than apple
> decided to make it that way.  Well, it's not all apple, but developers
> aren't going to support something that the parent company doesn't have
> any interest in anymore.  This doesn't just apply to apple, windows is
> guilty of this too, but that's neither here nor there.  I've been quite
> happy on my linux boxes every since I first installed linux way back in
> 1995.  I've never been forced to update my linux box if I didn't want
> to, I could continue using the programs I had, continue using the setup
> I had, and it just worked, and none of this planned obsolescence
> nonsense to break my linux box because a new release came out.  I have
> of course updated over the years, and still update regularly, but rarely
> does a linux upgrade cause anything as significant as a program no
> longer working due to different os requirements.  Sure, upgrading from
> libc to glib broke some things, but those were easily recompiled,
> replaced, or updated.  Kernel versions sometimes require changes in
> code, but nonetheless, all the programs I like to use still work, and
> I'm pretty much still using the same programs in 2016 that I used in
> 1995, albeit newer and more updated versions of said programs.  That
> just plain isn't possible on these commercial alternatives such as OSX
> and Windows.  Why is that? Well, there's lots of reasons, but it's
> largely the fault of the manufacturers of these operating systems.  You
> just can't use a windows 95 program on windows 10, and 

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Two more Galaxy Note 7 phones catch fire, Samsung allegedly stonewalling users

[Joshua Gregory]

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The Minnesota one?

On 10/9/16, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> Turns out the other incident mentioned here was a hoax so I'm not all
> that worried about it.
>
>
>
> On 10/10/2016 6:33 AM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
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>> I have a Samsung phone now, never again after this. Absolutely
>> appalling. Copy/paste statements to customers, slowing down said
>> complaints to customers, literally the worst company probably ever.
>> JMHO.
>>
>> On 10/9/16, Ted <t...@nevernamed.com> wrote:
>>> Two more Galaxy Note 7 phones catch fire, Samsung allegedly stonewalling
>>> users
>>>
>>>
>>>Another two of Galaxy Note 7 phones that were replaced under the
>>> recall
>>> have lit on fire, with a text inadvertently sent to one of the owners in
>>> the
>>> middle of support communication exchanges suggesting that Samsung is
>>> attempting to "slow down" user complaints about the phone.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, another Kentucky man's Galaxy Note 7 phone lit on fire,
>>> sending
>>> him to the hospital with acute bronchitis caused by smoke inhalation.
>>> Samsung said nothing publicly about Tuesday's fire at the time,
>>> potentially
>>> contributing to an event the next day at the Louisville airport the next
>>> day.
>>> "Just now got this. I can try and slow him down if we think it will
>>> matter"
>>> — Samsung tech support misdirected text message
>>> "The phone is supposed to be the replacement, so you would have thought
>>> it
>>> would be safe," Michael Klering told television station WKYT about
>>> Tuesday's
>>> fire. "It wasn't plugged in. It wasn't anything, it was just sitting
>>> there."
>>>
>>> Klering had the phone for slightly more than a week, and claims it was
>>> one
>>> of the replaced models.
>>>
>>> After complaining to Samsung, Klering recieved a text message from
>>> Samsung
>>> support, apparently intended for another support associate.
>>>
>>> "Just now got this. I can try and slow him down if we think it will
>>> matter,"
>>> the text, which was seen by WKYT, said. "We just let him do what he
>>> keeps
>>> threatening to do and see if he does it."
>>>
>>> Samsung asked for the phone, but Klering refused. Klering did accept an
>>> offer to pay for the phone carcass to be x-rayed, however.
>>>
>>> "We want to reassure our customers that we take every report seriously
>>> and
>>> we are engaged with Mr. Klering to ensure we are doing everything we can
>>> for
>>> him," said Samsung in a statement about the fire that sent Klering to
>>> the
>>> hospital. "Customer safety remains our highest priority as we are
>>> investigating the matter."
>>>
>>> Friday's fire in Minnesota
>>>
>>> Later in the week, 13-year old Abby Zuis felt a "weird, burning
>>> sensation"
>>> while holding her phone on Friday, according to ABC affiliate KSTP.
>>>
>>> Zuis received only minor burns before tossing the phone to the ground.
>>> The
>>> school principal prevented a larger issue by the phone out of the
>>> building.
>>>
>>> Samsung issued platitudes to the Zuis family similar to what Kler

Re: [Techno-Chat]: Two more Galaxy Note 7 phones catch fire, Samsung allegedly stonewalling users

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I have a Samsung phone now, never again after this. Absolutely
appalling. Copy/paste statements to customers, slowing down said
complaints to customers, literally the worst company probably ever.
JMHO.

On 10/9/16, Ted  wrote:
> Two more Galaxy Note 7 phones catch fire, Samsung allegedly stonewalling
> users
>
>
>   Another two of Galaxy Note 7 phones that were replaced under the recall
> have lit on fire, with a text inadvertently sent to one of the owners in the
> middle of support communication exchanges suggesting that Samsung is
> attempting to "slow down" user complaints about the phone.
>
>
> On Tuesday, another Kentucky man's Galaxy Note 7 phone lit on fire, sending
> him to the hospital with acute bronchitis caused by smoke inhalation.
> Samsung said nothing publicly about Tuesday's fire at the time, potentially
> contributing to an event the next day at the Louisville airport the next
> day.
> "Just now got this. I can try and slow him down if we think it will matter"
> — Samsung tech support misdirected text message
> "The phone is supposed to be the replacement, so you would have thought it
> would be safe," Michael Klering told television station WKYT about Tuesday's
> fire. "It wasn't plugged in. It wasn't anything, it was just sitting
> there."
>
> Klering had the phone for slightly more than a week, and claims it was one
> of the replaced models.
>
> After complaining to Samsung, Klering recieved a text message from Samsung
> support, apparently intended for another support associate.
>
> "Just now got this. I can try and slow him down if we think it will matter,"
> the text, which was seen by WKYT, said. "We just let him do what he keeps
> threatening to do and see if he does it."
>
> Samsung asked for the phone, but Klering refused. Klering did accept an
> offer to pay for the phone carcass to be x-rayed, however.
>
> "We want to reassure our customers that we take every report seriously and
> we are engaged with Mr. Klering to ensure we are doing everything we can for
> him," said Samsung in a statement about the fire that sent Klering to the
> hospital. "Customer safety remains our highest priority as we are
> investigating the matter."
>
> Friday's fire in Minnesota
>
> Later in the week, 13-year old Abby Zuis felt a "weird, burning sensation"
> while holding her phone on Friday, according to ABC affiliate KSTP.
>
> Zuis received only minor burns before tossing the phone to the ground. The
> school principal prevented a larger issue by the phone out of the building.
>
> Samsung issued platitudes to the Zuis family similar to what Klering was
> told.
>
> "We want to reassure our customers that we take every report seriously and
> we are engaged with the Zuis family to ensure we are doing everything we can
> for them and their daughter," said Samsung in a statement. "Customer safety
> remains our highest priority as we are investigating the matter."
>
> Pattern of destruction
>
> The two fires add up to three reported issues in a week. Additionally, all
> three phones weren't being charged when the fires started.
>
> Southwest Airlines evacuated 75 passengers from a flight preparing to take
> off from Louisville Airport in Kentucky on Wednesday after smoke from a
> Samsung Galaxy phone filled the cabin. The phone was a replacement Galaxy
> Note 7 that had been powered down for takeoff.
>
> Samsung issued a voluntary recall worldwide for the device after wide-spread
> reports of battery fires during charging, and drew criticism from the U.S..
> Consumer Protection and Safety Commission for how the matter was being
> handled. All customers who have purchased a Galaxy Note 7 should now be able
> to swap the device for a new one either online or at wireless carrier
> corporate-owned stores.
>
> Before the well-publicized battery fires in the Galaxy Note 7 forcing the
> recall, reviewers and YouTube examiners discovered that the Gorilla Glass 5
> used for the screen of the device was significantly more susceptible to
> screen scratches than other smartphones, iPhone 7 family included.
>
> On Friday, all of the U.S. carriers started allowing Galaxy Note 7 owners,
> including those already replaced by the exchange program, for other devices.
> AT is reportedly considering halting sales of the device altogether.
>
> http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/10/09/two-more-galaxy-note-7-phones-catch-fire-samsung-allegedly-stonewalling-users
>
> 

Re: [Techno-Chat]; Banana Pi

[Joshua Gregory]

That sounds really awesome.

On 8/22/16, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
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> No a little more advanced than the Raspberry Pi I think, certainly more
> advanced and powerful than the first generation of Raspberry Pi I played
> with for the last 3 years.
> The Banana Pi can run multiple Operating systems which include Android thus
> it shouldn’t be too much trouble getting the Pi talking.
>
>> On 23 Aug 2016, at 4:16 AM, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This thing is making me hungry... lol. So assuming this is the same as
>> the raspberry pie?
>>
>> On 8/22/16, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
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>>> I’ve ordered a starter kit, the Banana Pi itself comes with 1GB of RAM.
>>> The kit includes the Pi along with a pre-programmed 8GB SD card which of
>>> course can be changed depending on the user requirements.
>>> The Pi comes with Android v4.2 for some reason, perhaps this is the
>>> latest
>>> version to be tested on the Pi? I’ll have to do a little research on
>>> that
>>> but again its not a particular concern I wouldn’t have thought.
>>> Other parts of the kit include the power supply and an Ethernet cable.
>>> I bought the kit from eBay and I’ve written to the seller asking him to
>>> if
>>> he wouldn’t mind installing Google Talkback before shipping so I may be
>>> in
>>> luck there and if not? Well I’ll have to rely on another paire of
>>> eyeballs
>>> won’t i >smile>.
>>>
>>> **
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of
>>> the
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
> halfwits in this world behind.
>
>
>
>

Re: [Techno-Chat]; Banana Pi

[Joshua Gregory]

This thing is making me hungry... lol. So assuming this is the same as
the raspberry pie?

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> I’ve ordered a starter kit, the Banana Pi itself comes with 1GB of RAM.
> The kit includes the Pi along with a pre-programmed 8GB SD card which of
> course can be changed depending on the user requirements.
> The Pi comes with Android v4.2 for some reason, perhaps this is the latest
> version to be tested on the Pi? I’ll have to do a little research on that
> but again its not a particular concern I wouldn’t have thought.
> Other parts of the kit include the power supply and an Ethernet cable.
> I bought the kit from eBay and I’ve written to the seller asking him to if
> he wouldn’t mind installing Google Talkback before shipping so I may be in
> luck there and if not? Well I’ll have to rely on another paire of eyeballs
> won’t i >smile>.
>
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the
> halfwits in this world behind.
>
>
>
>

[Techno-Chat]; Best Twitter app for android

[Joshua Gregory]

Hi all,

Just wondering what the best Twitter app for android might be? Have a
Galaxy s7 active. Heard Tweetings is good, native twitter is good but
wondering if there is anything else? Thanks!

Re: [Techno-Chat]; How's The Weather?

[Joshua Gregory]

The only thing I know of would be NOAA weather radio, A US based
network, completely automated as far as I'm aware, pretty sure it's
operated by the National Weather Service. Don't know if that's what
you;re looking for but HTH.

On 8/9/16, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> Hello everybody
>
> Around three or four years ago I think it was, Roger very kindly produced
> quite an indepth, and very informative article for the group and for our
> soon to be revived radio station, Sparkle Radio, regarding weather stations.
>
> At that time, I wasn't really in the market for such a thing.  Now, however,
> things have changed somewhat, and I'm looking with renewed interest at quite
> a few things.
>
> So, does anybody know whaj the current situation is regarding se things as
> weather stations?  Ideally, I'd like one which utilised the free-to-air
> weather satellites, but I do remember reading that they are far less
> accessible than their terrestrial countaparts.  So it seems that we're going
> to be earthbound for quite some time to come yen, at least as far as weather
> predictions which don't come from the public networks are concerned.
> Nevertheless, any information would be appreciated.
>
> —'-'-'-'—
>
> My compliments And Kindest Regards
> Gordon Smith
> Accessibility And Information Technology Support Specialist
>
> ―――—
>

Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client

[Joshua Gregory]

Good to know that it works well with office, as I will be using that a bit.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:20 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Yep that offer is still available though I'd advise you to purchase some 
> extra voices from GW Micro if you go that way, the default Microsoft voices 
> don't work well with Window-Eyes at all.
> 
> 
> I mainly use NVDA these days which works very well in the main with all 
> Office 2016 Apps.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/06/2016 6:16 AM, Joshua Gregory wrote:
>> I hadn't thought about window eyes, although I guess I could get it free 
>> since I do have a 365 subscription thing, if that offer is still around that 
>> is.. Thanks everyone!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Iaen Cordell <i...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>> 
>>> I also use Thunderbird and like Dayne I am thinking of going to outlook 
>>> 2016, it work well with window-eyes 9.4 and as I also use it at work it 
>>> makes the transition simple.
>>> Cheers
>>> IC
>>>  
>>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net] 
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:08 AM
>>> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client
>>>  
>>> I use Thunderbird email client and there are excellent tutorials/podcasts 
>>> available to help the beginner though I contend that this App is incredibly 
>>> easy to use.
>>>  
>>> I’m considering whether to leave Thunderbird behind and Migrate to Outlook 
>>> now that I have Office 2016 365 Version.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:40 AM, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi,
>>> If anybody here happens to use windows 10, what email client do you use? 
>>> I'm getting a computer that has it and I've heard the mail app that comes 
>>> with it is and all that good with NVDA. So just curious to know what other 
>>> people use. Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>  
>>> **
>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>>> halfwits in this world behind.
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves

Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client

[Joshua Gregory]

Yeah that is a good point.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:18 PM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> wrote:
> 
> Course the other attraction of OOutlook is its multi platform use, accessible 
> from the Mac to the iPhone to the Android Tablet.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 2/06/2016 6:11 AM, Iaen Cordell wrote:
>> I also use Thunderbird and like Dayne I am thinking of going to outlook 
>> 2016, it work well with window-eyes 9.4 and as I also use it at work it 
>> makes the transition simple.
>> Cheers
>> IC
>>  
>> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net] 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:08 AM
>> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
>> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client
>>  
>> I use Thunderbird email client and there are excellent tutorials/podcasts 
>> available to help the beginner though I contend that this App is incredibly 
>> easy to use.
>>  
>> I’m considering whether to leave Thunderbird behind and Migrate to Outlook 
>> now that I have Office 2016 365 Version.
>>  
>>  
>> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:40 AM, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  
>> Hi,
>> If anybody here happens to use windows 10, what email client do you use? I'm 
>> getting a computer that has it and I've heard the mail app that comes with 
>> it is and all that good with NVDA. So just curious to know what other people 
>> use. Thanks!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>  
>> **
>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
>> halfwits in this world behind.
> 
> -- 
> 
> **
> Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves

Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client

[Joshua Gregory]

Oh that's good to hear. Thanks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Iaen Cordell <i...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> Yes, the free offer of window-eyes is still around.
> Cheers
> IC
>  
> From: Joshua Gregory [mailto:joshtg...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:17 AM
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client
>  
> I hadn't thought about window eyes, although I guess I could get it free 
> since I do have a 365 subscription thing, if that offer is still around that 
> is.. Thanks everyone!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Iaen Cordell <i...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I also use Thunderbird and like Dayne I am thinking of going to outlook 2016, 
> it work well with window-eyes 9.4 and as I also use it at work it makes the 
> transition simple.
> Cheers
> IC
>  
> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:08 AM
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client
>  
> I use Thunderbird email client and there are excellent tutorials/podcasts 
> available to help the beginner though I contend that this App is incredibly 
> easy to use.
>  
> I’m considering whether to leave Thunderbird behind and Migrate to Outlook 
> now that I have Office 2016 365 Version.
>  
>  
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:40 AM, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
> If anybody here happens to use windows 10, what email client do you use? I'm 
> getting a computer that has it and I've heard the mail app that comes with it 
> is and all that good with NVDA. So just curious to know what other people 
> use. Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
>  
>  
>  

Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client

[Joshua Gregory]

I hadn't thought about window eyes, although I guess I could get it free since 
I do have a 365 subscription thing, if that offer is still around that is.. 
Thanks everyone!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Iaen Cordell <i...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> 
> I also use Thunderbird and like Dayne I am thinking of going to outlook 2016, 
> it work well with window-eyes 9.4 and as I also use it at work it makes the 
> transition simple.
> Cheers
> IC
>  
> From: Dane Trethowan [mailto:grtd...@internode.on.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 6:08 AM
> To: techno-chat@techno-chat.net
> Subject: Re: [Techno-Chat]; Windows 10 mail client
>  
> I use Thunderbird email client and there are excellent tutorials/podcasts 
> available to help the beginner though I contend that this App is incredibly 
> easy to use.
>  
> I’m considering whether to leave Thunderbird behind and Migrate to Outlook 
> now that I have Office 2016 365 Version.
>  
>  
> On 2 Jun 2016, at 3:40 AM, Joshua Gregory <joshtg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  
> Hi,
> If anybody here happens to use windows 10, what email client do you use? I'm 
> getting a computer that has it and I've heard the mail app that comes with it 
> is and all that good with NVDA. So just curious to know what other people 
> use. Thanks!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>  
> **
> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the 
> halfwits in this world behind.
>  
>  
>  

Re: Yamaha P115 Piano Arrives

[Joshua Gregory]

Hi, so what is the point in the voices? Seems kind of odd for a piano.

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> On Apr 18, 2016, at 1:27 PM, Gordon Smith  wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> Well,it’s here!  I confess to being a little surprised that this unit is 
> shipped without cables.  In other words, it has MIDI, USB 3.0 and external 
> audio support, but the only accessory shipped with the unit is the power 
> supply.
> 
> All that said, it does not put me off the unit.  I am quite excited by its 
> range of versatility.  Also there is no touch screen to worry about, it’s all 
> physical switches.  One can have any combination of the 14 internal voices, 
> plus any of the external Yamaha voices which you download from their website, 
> playing at any one time.  I’m also puzzled by Yamaha’s policy of charging 
> their customers for all but the first downloaded voice profile.  But I’m sure 
> they have their reasons.
> 
> Nevertheless, this instrument looks like a class act in its own right.  But I 
> guess I need something like ProTools or Adobe Audition to get the best out of 
> the piano.
> 
> I haven’t yet played it, but looking at the keys, they are real quality.  
> They are beautifully weighted, just like a real grand piano is.  It really 
> does give the player a feel of being in front of a classic baby grand.
> 
> The music rest mechanism is rather flimsy though.  It’s just a piece of 
> plastic, in essentials, which drops into a groove on the top surface of the 
> piano.  Odd to say the least.  When paying all that money for an item I 
> expect quality.  And my final little gripe is the absence of a sustain 
> peddle.  I guess you need to go back to Yamaha for that, maybe it’s 
> considered an accessory.  Although I fail to see how one can produce smooth 
> rhythmic music without one.  Everything will have a staccato sound to it as 
> soon as you lift your finger from the key.  Oh well, in for a penny, in for a 
> Pound, I guess.
>  
> 
> 
> My compliments and kindest regards
> Gordon Smith:
> 
> 
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