Subject: Re: praying for a wee one
From: Stephen Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, James Guinee wrote:
Here is an interesting study [Prayer may influence in vitro
fertilization success]. Based on its results, I wonder if the
unwanted pregnancy rate could be reduced
Here is an interesting study [Prayer may influence in vitro
fertilization success]. Based on its results, I wonder if the
unwanted pregnancy rate could be reduced by invoking the power
of prayer.
Faith is surely a remarkable thing. It can contemplate a God who
is unmoved by the
Despite the warm fuzzy feeling engendered by Jim's post, I can't
let this one pass, although I'm probably out of my philosophical
depth here. But I'm not willing to concede that religion teaches
us about morality (in an absolute sense, whatever that means),
only that it imposes a particular
To me this is in some senses not even relevant, because, as I have said in
some of my other posts, it refers only to the lives of middle and upper class
women. Women who have lived in poverty or near poverty almost never have the
luxury of engaging in the contemplation of such options.
On 24 Oct 2001, at 10:35, James Guinee wrote:
There is a difference between respecting someone else's beliefs and allowing
them to preach to you in a public forum
My last comments, I promise:
1. Mike and others are absolutely correct -- preaching the merits of (or
denouncing the evil
Submit!
Why is submit such a bad thing? Is it just something that
culturally, psychologically, tends to produce a reflexive
reaction that says No way I submit to anything or anyone.
Granted we may differ in the extent, degree, and to whom we do
this to, but certainly we dont see
Rick Froman wrote:
I would not doubt, from the voluminous evidence available, that textbooks
used in public schools, written by committees, are dreadfully bad. I would
not be surprised to find a cursory and incomplete and even slanted
representation in a public school textbook given what
This study sounds like a reminder that many things in life
may be a matter of neither too much nor too little.
JPG
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Forget what mom said about keeping your hands in
your lap while talking. Gesturing while speaking appears to free up
the brain to perform other tasks, such as
Subject: Family/Marital Couseling Psychology
From: Jeff Ricker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a relative who wants to specialize in Family/Marital Couseling
Psychology. He is now a junior at the University of Illinois--UC,
majoring in psychology; and he is beginning to think about graduate
On 6 Oct 2001, at 0:00, Teaching in the Psychological Sciences di wrote:
Sorry, but to me if it's valid to judge scientific statements on
a moral basis (and, to be honest, I personally see no morality
what-so-ever in claiming ANY group of people are superior to another),
it's equally
Now, I admit I don't always have my facts straight, but in my following of
this
case, it was my understanding the the parents and the Catholic church
believed that God's will should prevail, meaning that they were leaving it in
God's hands the fate of both wee ones.
Regardless of what did
Stephen to suggest
that the religious authorities (who are you talking about here?) were
unanimous in CONCLUDING THAT BOTH SHOULD DIE. Where the heck do
you get off making such a statement?
The decision that it would violate their religious principles to
deliberately end the
Now, I admit I don't always have my facts straight, but in my following of this
case, it was my understanding the the parents and the Catholic church
believed that God's will should prevail, meaning that they were leaving it in
God's hands the fate of both wee ones.
Regardless of what
Let's take another step. There is so often a wide chasm
between the tenets of a religion and the inability of a
follower to live up to them, abide by them, not to abuse or
misuse them.
And in the case of Judeo-Christian religions, that's a pretty
good thing. After all, the
belief in an afterlife rose from 65 percent to 84 percent among Catholics,
and from 24 percent to 40 percent among Jews; the latter statistic is
surprising because belief in life after death normally decreases
proportionally with education, and the Jews are among the most educated of
all
Second, I question the statement that Buddhists do not believe in
an afterlife. Reincarnation--rebirth in another form--is
fundamental to their beliefs, and surely that is a form of
afterlife.
Well, I think there are at least two different concepts of afterlife present in
the Buddhist
Good thing the McCaughey babies didn't have you for a parent. They were
advised of the medical necessity to terminate several of their children.
They chose instead to cling to their beliefs, and all seven survived.
Imagine
some day one of the children having you for a professor,
James Guinee wrote:
Ever hear the biblical admonition Hate the sin, love the sinner?-
Yes, I have HEARD it. Now, could you please cite the passage where I may READ it?
* http://www.coe.uca.edu/psych/scoles/index.html
* Mike Scoles *[EMAIL
Subject: Conjoined twins dilemma (was: seduced by science and bias)
From: Stephen Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, James Guinee wrote:
Perhaps you see it as a small point, but how *certain* were these deaths?
There is no certainty in science. There is probability: low
Subject: Re: seduced by science and bias
From: Mike Scoles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Guinee wrote:
There is no passage that reads literally Hate the sin, love the sinner.
It is a biblical principle (note I used the word admonition, not verse or
passage) borne out of verses that speak
Okay. Let's just be intellectually honest and admit that
there was no certainty that the twins would have died, and therefore
believing it was God's will that no medical intervention be done is not
tantamount
to voting for certain death.
Wait a second here... So unless we
Jim,
I am sorry that you see this as a personal attack. However, when you include your
position as President of a state professional organization in your signature file
you
do, whether it is your intent or not, represent that organization when you make
public
comments. The same
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Treatment study offers hope for alcoholics
BU, other sites try combined therapy
The Boston Globe October 9, 2001
By Raja Mishra
After fighting for decades to establish alcoholism as a disease,
researchers have begun testing a medical cure for
I found your comments about women the other day to be very offensive, and
not
what would be expected from someone holding these positions.
I was also deeply offended and noted that my response to these comments was
never addressed.
It is deeply troubling to me that three of the
Subject: Signature file coincidences
From: Mike Scoles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Perhaps I am being overly sensitive to the signature files of those in
the helping professions who are leaders of professional organizations,
or trainers of future helpers.
Is there some reason you put the word
Subject: signature files
From: tasha howe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I just wanted to encourage Jim to keep on truckin'. I am one of those
raging left wing liberals who prefers that religion stay out of academic
discussions. However, i would never assume your religious views to
reflect your
Subject: An apology for signature file coincidences
From: Mike Scoles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim,
Perhaps I was a little too enthusiastic in explaining why I found your
signature file to be so offensive. I apologize for that. Since I made
the comments to the list, it seems appropriate to
Jeff,
Here is a summary of contributions from other lists.
Incomplete but hopefully somewhat helpful.
Best wishes to your nephew,
Jim
1.
The University of Georgia has an excellent Marriage and Family Program.
2.
Our Lady of Holy Cross College in New Orleans has a wonderful marriage
Hello,
For those of you who teach/cover the subject of domestic violence,
this article may interest you.
A clear case of blaming the victim?
JPG
Judge's Ruling Roils Arena of Wife Abuse
January 6, 2002 - - NY Times
By FRANCIS X. CLINES
LEXINGTON, Ky., Jan. 4 - The violent arena of
Okinawans know how to live
Longevity: The rest of the world is coming to recognize the lifestyle
that enables so many on the island to reach a hale 100.
Sun Journal
December 22, 2001
OOGIMI, Japan - Almost every morning, Ushi Okushima rises from her futon
and heads across the street for a
One more from your occasional newsboy...JPG
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Some People More Resilient to Trauma, Stress
New York Times Syndicate - January 16, 2002 Some individuals not only
survive trauma, negative events and seemingly insurmountable
obstacles, they also grow and
Subject: Re: Help requested with an ugly legal issue
From: James D.Dougan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip
The really ironic part: I don't know anyone more willing than my wife to
support and help students. She absolutely bends over backward to be fair,
helpful, and supportive.
Good! There
Subject: Re: Random Thought: Changing Students
From: Dr. Bob Wildblood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Seems to me that what we are saying is the same as we clinicians always tell our
co-dependents: You can't make your [significant other] stop drinking/doing
drugs/etc. It's the individual who must do
For those of you who have an expertise in drug addiction and/or
comparative psych, I'm interested in your thoughts on this study.
I guess one of my typical reflexive reactions is Yeah, but how much can we
generalize from monkey to man?
Thanks,
Jim Guinee
FW:
Monkey Cocaine Study Sheds Light
So, Jim Guinee, you asked how much we could generalize from monkeys to
humans. To me, it looks as if the monkeys acted a lot like us.
--David Epstein
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David, Sherry, and others,
Thanks for a great analysis!
It is amazing how much animals CAN teach us (hooray for the
Subject: Grading and depression
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I jokingly tell my students that some of their writings are so terrible
that I have to take some prozac to help me overcome their writing induced depression.
Keeping in mind that these are college students,how do you react to answers
Hello again,
I'm curious if you've covered this case in your class (of course,
that depends on the subject). I'm also curious how students tend to
react -- for one, in my marriage and family class the majority of students,
particularly the women, seem very unsympathetic, particularly those
Jim Clark,
Always a treat to hear your thinkin'
Subject: Re: rethinking sin
From: jim clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A. As noted below in the Webster definition, sin does not
necessarily entail religion (e.g., an offense against religious
or moral law an action that is reprehensible), so it
Robin wrote:
Seems to me that you only need the concept of sin/fallen-ness if you're
already a Christian. If you believe that the world, life, etc. did not
come about as the intentional creation of a being, but simply through
chance and the forces of evolution, it makes sense that things
Subject: Re: rethinking sin
From: Chuck Huff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jim Guineee said
I'd like to buy a vowel -- one too many e's there ;)
Your typical Christian psychologist likely accepts as much of
psychology as s/he can, until it contradicts with her/his religious beliefs.
This
Mark McMinn, a Christian psychologist, argues that sin - and living in a
fallen world - is useful to the teaching of psychology.
He notes that the average general psych textbook will probably not
include the word sin, and yet evidence for the consequences of sin are
can be found
Paul
Vitz of NYU conducted a study on notable atheists and later wrote a book
entitled Faith of the Fatherless. Vitz argues that the decision to
believe in a theistic or atheistic worldview is not the result of any
rational objective decision but rather is based on feelings which
This is LONG, but thought some of you might find it interesting (and possibly
useful).
Jim Guinee
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Delusions, Despair May Torment Mentally Ill Mothers Who Murder
Knight Ridder/Tribune - February 21, 2002 The Dallas Morning News
(KRT)
DALLAS-A good
Jim Clark,
Great questions. If you don't mind, I'd like to offer some responses.
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, Rod Hetzel wrote:
I would not use psychotherapy to convert anyone or direct anyone towards
or away from a religious worldview. That is not the purpose of
psychotherapy.
But what if
Subject: Re: mothers who kill
From: Mike Scoles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gerald Peterson wrote:
Clearly, they kill because they have sinned and wish to cleanse
themselves of the evil possessing them or their children.
Yes, my tongue is in cheek.
Maybe it shouldn't be. Too
Subject: Re: religious coping
From: Robert Grossman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Why would a therapist try to change a client's worldview? That would be
unethical. I don't think that's what you mean -- I would imagine you mean
why wouldn't we suggest a different worldview?
The most painful case
Maybe it shouldn't be. Too frequently, suicides and murder/suicides are for
the purpose of releasing someone from the devil or taking them to a better
place. Would these tragedies occur if the victims/perpetrators had not been
indoctrinated with fairy tales?
COMMAND: SET TIPS RELIGIOUS
Hey folks,
On a recent exam, the students were asked to discuss how much
homogamy (sameness) they see in their romantic relationships, and list
the one homogamy factor that was most important in whom they date.
One student wrote race, saying that while she wasn't a racist, she simply
did not
(Back to me) Carl was awarded $5.9 million in damages for that
one. With the hospital allowing therapy like that, it it any
wonder that the treatment Yates received seems questionable?
Uh...I'm not sure you should link the two situations just yet.
What you suggest may well indeed be true,
Subject: Anybody else on TIPS get this?
From: Patrick O. Dolan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:23:42 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1
TIPS is the only internet group or what-have-you for which I
use my work account. Wondering if this fellow got my address
from TIPS. I also noticed
Something similar happened to me in my Marriage and the Family class the
other day. Now, remember that I am a Christian psychologist who teaches
at a Christian university. A student raised his hand and started
complaining about the class was a waste of his time because all we were
Subject: RE: I took MF to be a good husband...
From: Rod Hetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Good points, David. I believe my student had a genuine curiosity, but
within certain limits, about wanting to learn more about being a good
husband. In other words, he was willing to learn, but only if he
Subject: Re: I took MF...
From: Mike Scoles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Guinee wrote:
Mike Scoles lovingly suggested:
Only fools despise wisdom . . .
What wisdom are you talking about? And who is the
fool in this case?
I was only citing Proverbs!
As an old commercial used
Hey
Speaking of techno-scams, has anyone ever gotten anything like this.
Wow. I'm gonna be rich!
Jim Guinee
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From:I deleted the guy's name
address, fax number, etc.
RE: TRANSFER OF ($
Question
How can a person be exceptionally skilled at mathematics -- scores
in the 98th percentile on all standard tests, does a variety of calculations
in his head, yadda yadda.
Yet when you ask this person to subtract something, he can't do it
any faster than anyone else -- in fact, he has to
Sent from a friend of mine:
A Brief History Of Medicine
I have an earache...
2000 B.C. - Here, eat this root.
1000 A.D. - That root is heathen, say this prayer.
1850 A.D. - That prayer is superstition, drink this potion.
1940 A.D. - That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill.
1985 A.D. -
So we are in agreement that what is
actually going on is that religion is one of many convenient excuses for a
general human tendency towards mayhem and domination? Especially ironic given
than many religions purport to carry a message of peace and justice.
Just checking.
Nancy Melucci
Hi
For those of you who teach anything related to marriage and family,
you might have seen this already. On the surface it sure sounds like
ya better get goin' on those baby plans sooner than you might have
planned, but a deeper look seems to indicate those plans might just
be able to remain
Hi
I apologize for the lengthiness of this post, but it's very interesting
and very relevant. You may not use this in your classrooms, but
you might need it for your interactions with individual students.
As faculty members, you provide a vital resource to mental health
professional on campus
As I stated earlier, stop talking when class noise is
distracting, and don't start again until noise stops. Don't
request anything ... just stand there philosophically.
How does one stand there philosophically?
Could you provide an illustration?
Does a pipe help? :)
Jim G
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You are
The journal _New Scientist_ has an on-line promotion of something or
other. Win prizes, yada, yada. It caught my attention with what looks
like a cute on-line quiz to determine how long you have to live.
I took the quiz under two conditions: first, truthfully, then
maximizing everything
Can't say I'm too impressed with the quiz. The Liberty Science Center
in New Jersey has a, perhaps more scientifically based, similar test.
The link below does as well. Both of those have more seemingly useful
questions than the New Scientist one. A good friend from the UK used
to get
As I stated earlier, stop talking when class noise is
distracting, and don't start again until noise stops. Don't
request anything ... just stand there philosophically.
How does one stand there philosophically?
Could you provide an illustration?
Does a pipe help? :)
My personal experience has been that
fundamentalists feel they are behaving immorally if they fail to do whatever
is necessary to promote Christianity.
While fundamentalists may believe wholeheartedly in promoting their
belief system, they would be ironically behaving immorally in doing
According to Philip Terzian of the Providence Journal, conservative publicist
David Horowitz has just released the findings of a survey he conducted in
conjunction with the American Enterprise Institute. Its conclusion is that the
faculties of American universities are overwhelmingly populated
From: Cheri Budzynski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I will be at a conference at the end of October and I am having a
graduate student from a local university guest lecture while I am gone.
I would like to thank her by getting her a gift but I am unsure what is
appropriate and professional. Any
2) Was he very religious, and/or did his religiosity play a role in
his theorizing or practice?
As far as I recall, no to the first question, but the second question
depends on whom you read/ask.
I've read an excellent biography of Freud that claims he drew more
inspiration for his ideas
I'd be curious to know from my fellow Tipsters if you would have ever
dreamed of ending up where you are now when you were fresh out of =
graduate
school?
In Arkansas? Not in a million years?
And enjoying the community I live in? Not in a billion...
When I interviewed here in 1994, I heard
Ugh. We don't have any choice NOW
From: Mike Scoles [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Must we endure circumcision jokes?
Is this Jewish week on Tips?
Michael Sylvester,PhD
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I've read an excellent biography of Freud that claims he drew more
inspiration for his ideas (e.g., the Talmud) than he claimed.
I believe David Bakan wrote a book called _Freud and the Jewish Mystical
Tradition_. You might have a look at that.
--
Christopher D. Green
Thanks!!
Jim G
This is no joke. I actually heard about this on the news the other day.
There are a couple of religious people baking it up and a major car
company supporting the slogan. I am foreseeing a lot of problems ahead
with this ad campaign.
This is about as biblically motivated as the folks
I saw a film a long time ago, can't remember the title but Max von Sidow (who
played Christ years before in a film) plays a guy who only turns on his tv
once a year to see if anything has changed. After doing his annual tv thing,
he says to his friend who comes to visit, If Jesus Christ
Nothing like reading your mail from the last six days, and after responding to
this message, the very next one (now days old) has already established the
correction.
Sorry about that.
Oh, well...
Hey Louis, if Jesus would have driven a Christler, would an apostle have
driven a Yugo? :)
Subject: RE: Rescue me
From: Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I never cease to be amazed by the requests that students bring to me. I
had one student who took a course with me in the summer, failed the
course because he only came to class about 25% of the time and didn't
complete any
At 10:14 AM -0800 12/10/02, Harry Avis wrote:
What we are seeing here is the old battle of clinicians vs nonclinicians.
Paul Brandon replied:
Where is Paul Meehl when we need him?
Wasn't he more concerned with actuarial and clinical decision
making.
Let's not suggest this is isomorphic
Hey Rod,
When I was a graduate student at Illinois, I taught a course in educational
psychology for seconday education majors.
By my second year, I felt I was really doing a good job, that I was covering
the most relevant material, showing students how to apply it to the
classroom, etc.
Then
Rod,
I almost forgot the one piece of feedback that almost
drove me out of teaching.
It was my second year as a t.a., and I read this on one
of the evals:
I know some students hate Jim, but...
Ouch ouch ouch!
Jim G
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Subject: RE: Do it yourself EMDR
From: Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Matthew McKay has co-authored a number of self-help books to help people
deal with issues like stress, anxiety, and anger. Some of his
approaches are based on sound empirical evidence, but other suggestions
and techniques
originator of EMDR.
My comment: Sigh! And speaking of eye movements, I roll my eyes.
Stephen
__
Do it at least 3 times, twice a day. It's very therapeutic.
--
_ Rick Stevens
_ Psychology Department
_ University of
From: Hetzel, Rod [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Louis makes some excellent points, but I find it hard to believe that
the teacher is the sole person responsible for developing an enriching
and educational environment in the classroom.
I'm glad Louis clarified his position on this.
Although it sounds
Yes, he sure is...I was once dumb enough to think he was telling
us about real situations and I suspended my disbelief thinking maybe his
students were just as way out there as him.
But no more.
Although I will say that Mike want to consider writing a book about
all of this stuff. Anyone who
Anyone who is entering teaching and wishing to prepare
for EVERY possible scenario and nightmare in a classroom
should be covered!!
This would be most appropriately placed in the fiction section of the
bookstore.
Nancy Melucci
LBCC
ROTFL!!
Probably wedged next to Raellian tales
Okay, not that relevant but...if you don't like it, make up a psychology
version ;)
Jim G
Teaching Math in 1950:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is
4/5 of the price. What is his profit?
Teaching Math in 1960:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for
Michael Sylvester wrote:
On the first day of class today, a student came to the front
of the class called his fiance' to come to join him and
popped the question ... will you marry me? She
answered yes and he put a ring on her finger. The whole
class applauded.I hope
On 24 Jan 2003, at 0:00, Teaching in the Psychological Sciences di wrote:
Subject: need info re: stossel videos junk science and power of belief
From: Traci Giuliano [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 22:02:42 -0600
X-Message-Number: 7
I recently found both of these on my shelf
Here's the whole thing, with all of the context (just to make it clear that
he's not ONLY asking this evolution question). And notice that he's asking
them to assert that they believe in evolution, not asking them to deny any
religious beliefs. In my opinion, that makes a huge difference.
Beth,
A great topic. And I have no doubt your class discussions have gone
well in part because of how you have handled the material, and also
that you have given students the benefit of the doubt when it comes to
handling sensitive and/or controversial material.
Last Monday, in my marriage and
http://www.cyberglass.biz/FlashEx/mindreader.html
Would someone much smarter than me please explain why
this works?
Thanks,
Jim G
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Jim Guinee, Ph.D.
Director of
This is a very good topic for discussion, because we all operate from
our biases whether we like it or not.
Guess that's why we're called professors
We profess...;)
***
Jim Guinee, Ph.D.
On 27 Feb 2003, at 0:00, Teaching in the Psychological Sciences di wrote:
Subject: sorry
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 13:38:25 -0500
X-Message-Number: 13
I realized that for my last post I hit reply and forgot to delete the entire
digest that came along with it. Sorry
On 28 Feb 2003, at 0:00, Teaching in the Psychological Sciences di wrote:
Subject: Re: Mind Games: Chronicle of Higher Education Article
From: Patti Price [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:17:52 -0500
X-Message-Number: 15
The link for nonsubscribers to the Tavris article is
I was thinking of mentioning this to the group this morning. I think he was a
great person. He was kind enough to answer a short, complimentary letter that
I sent to him about 10 years ago. I wish my daughter could group up with him
as I did.
Nancy Melucci
Long Beach City College
Long
Wallace
I agree with you somewhat
Especially about the psychotherapist issue
From state to state there are numerous problems with this rubric
as well as others
It wasn't that long ago a psychiatric nurse came to our institution
and did a talk on dream interpretation and called herself a
Subject: RE: Sternberg-Tavris
From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hear an informed discussion of very different positions on the value of =
manualized, empirically validated treatment protocols. Dr. Wampold =
presents his perspective and research that argues there is no evidence =
supporting
Subject: Re: Sternberg-Tavris
From: Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Guinee wrote:
But some theoretically-based approaches are very difficult to test, and
Wampold is saying that they do JUST AS WELL based on outcome data
as the manualized stuff.
After I sent my note I did look
I often say that when you can measure what you are speaking about and
express it in numbers you know something about it; but when you cannot
measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a
meager and unsatisfactory kind
Patient: I'm really angry
Therapist How do you
Unfortunately I agree with him completely, also. I've been reading some
articles by Paul Meehl lately, and I think he'd say that the bean counters
are better qualified to make decisions about length of treatment, and that
clinical judgement is vastly overrated. I don't know . . . he had
Stephen Black said:
I can't end without a speculation of my own. It seems to me that
religion figures prominently in this extraordinary case
I'd say mental illness is a much more dominant factor in understanding
what occurred than religion.
both the
apparently strong conventional
Anyone have any answers? My TA answered the question well, and suggested a
false correlation based on inaccurate memory may be at work here (i.e., we
dream many things and don't pay any attention to the ones that don't turn
out, but if one out of thousands happens to occur, we remember it),
Question of the day
When writing a letter of recommendation for a student, are there
any guidelines that the university places on this? For example,
what is the protocol for a professor denying a student a letter.
Given that letters are written in the capacity of one's position
as a university
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