From what I have read the monasteries were the centers of learning in the
Middle ages.I am surprised that Mendel
has not been mentioned.He was an Augustian monk.
Btw,what we mean by religious may have a different meaning at hat time.If I
recall my philosophy,either Leibnitz or Spinoza came up
I'm not sure Glieck's short book is the final say.
Make it a good day
-Louis-
Louis Schmier
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Valdosta State University
Valdosta,
On 16 September Mike Smith wrote:
…the first scientists were all very religious men. Bacon,
Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, and Darwin for example.
Leaving aside that Darwin was hardly among the first scientists, it
is erroneous to state he was religious. On the contrary, he had ceased
to believe
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On 16 September Mike Smith wrote:
…the first scientists were all very religious men. Bacon,
Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, and Darwin for example.
Leaving aside that Darwin was hardly
John Kulig wrote:
But in general, Christian religions have not been exactly at the forefront of
science. Though the Catholic church is ultimately accepting of scientific
advances - sooner or later - example being the acceptance of Darwinian theory
as established science and more than just a
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On Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:02:51 -0500, Michael Smith wrote:
Well, I didn't mean anything very deep.
Just that the first scientists were all very religious men. Bacon,
Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, and Darwin for example.
They saw (like Aquinus) that an orderly, rational, lawful universe was
As an historian, I'll attest that Michael Smith is right. Some of you are
showing your anti-religion bias. Newton, for example, felt that his greatest
work was not the Mathamatica Principia, but his commentary on the Bible. So,
if you think Michael's explanation is shallow, for starters, I
Was Thomas Aquinas deistic or christian? Didn't he write
a PRNCIPA?
Michael
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There is no such term as deistic in the Middle Ages. That belief is one of
many outgrowth of the Reformation. Aquinaes, Dominican, was as Christian as
they come. In a shallow explanation, he felt that to merely say, I
believe wasn't a sufficient argument against the Islamic Moors,
9:26 AM
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As an historian, I'll attest that Michael Smith is right. Some of you are
showing your anti-religion bias. Newton, for example, felt that his greatest
work was not the Mathamatica Principia
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On Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 20:02:51 -0500, Michael Smith wrote:
Well, I didn't mean anything very
a theologian.
From: Louis E. Schmier [mailto:lschm...@valdosta.edu]
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As an historian, I'll attest that Michael Smith is right. Some of you are
showing
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Date: Friday, September 17, 2010 9:51 am
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An interesting point made by Gleick:
When Newton said 'I do not make an hypothesis' )or something to
that effect
Well...there's way too much there to comment on. But a couple of
comments anyway:
Some thoughts about Marc Carter's post.
Marc said that my original contention was that:
thoughtful theologians were responsible for modern science, not that the
collection of people who invented science were
: Christopher D. Green
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Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 2:49 PM
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Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a
heliocentric model of the universe 1700 years
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Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a
heliocentric model
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Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a
heliocentric model of the universe 1700 years before
: Thursday, September 16, 2010 2:08 PM
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I'm thinking that the dark ages weren't so dark and science
is a natural outgrowth of thoughtful Christian theology.
So, without the dark ages and Christian theology
Well, I didn't mean anything very deep.
Just that the first scientists were all very religious men. Bacon,
Copernicus, Kepler, Newton, and Darwin for example.
They saw (like Aquinus) that an orderly, rational, lawful universe was
a reflection of those qualities of its creator.
And studying nature
John Serafin wrote:
Personal aside...ignore if not interested. My grandparents all
emigrated from Poland to the US. They all ended up in an
area just west of Detroit. My dad's parents lived on a street
that happened to go by the name of Kopernik. As a kid, I
had no idea the significance of that
)
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Yeah, I agree! (sort of, but ...) My understanding (haven't
read the original) is that Copernicus (Latinized from the
Polish name Kopernik) was theoretically embedded in the
medieval way of thinking which was to try to fit the
available data into pre
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Yeah, I agree! (sort of, but ...) My understanding (haven't
read the original) is that Copernicus (Latinized from the
Polish name Kopernik) was theoretically embedded in the
medieval way of thinking which
Sciences (TIPS)
Subject: Re: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?
Just for the record, Aristarchus of Samos outlined a
heliocentric model of the universe 1700 years before Copernicus.
Chris
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Sounds like the Church is reversing itself, not just standing motionless.
Paul Brandon
Emeritus Professor of Psychology
Minnesota State University, Mankato
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On Sep 14, 2010, at 1:04 PM, Christopher D. Green wrote:
Creationism was only the beginning... :-(
Seriously - this is a joke, right?
At 01:04 PM 9/14/2010, you wrote:
Creationism was only the beginning... :-(
Announcement for
Galileo Was Wrong: The Church Was Right
First Annual Catholic Conference on Geocentrism
Why stop at geocentrism? Why not go whole hog and become a Flat-earther? It
seems so half-hearted to be a geocentrist.
Paul C Bernhardt
Frostburg State University
Frostburg, MD, USA
pcbernhardt[at]frostburg[d0t]edu
On Sep 14, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Christopher D. Green wrote:
Creationism
Note that the first author on the book that Marc Carter refers
to is Robert Sungenis who is also the first speaker listed on the
ad that Chris Green linked to. There is a Wikipedia entry
on him (yada-yada) which provide some background information
but does not seem to explain much; see:
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Note that the first author on the book that Marc Carter refers
to is Robert Sungenis who
Hey, wait a minute here. Why is that Italian, Galileo, getting credit (or
blame, depending on your perspective) for all of this business about a
heliocentric universe? I thought that my Polish ancestor, Copernicus, was
the one responsible for all of this rabble-rousing.
If they're going to go off
: [tips] Galileo Was Wrong?
Hey, wait a minute here. Why is that Italian, Galileo, getting credit (or
blame, depending on your perspective) for all of this business about a
heliocentric universe? I thought that my Polish ancestor, Copernicus, was
the one responsible for all of this rabble-rousing
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Yeah, I agree! (sort of, but ...) My understanding (haven't read the original)
is that Copernicus (Latinized from the Polish name Kopernik) was theoretically
embedded in the medieval way of thinking which was to try to fit the available
data
.
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Ha! One of the things I have to love
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