Re: Cutting down a bit our bandwidth comsuption

2001-12-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/7/01 11:07 AM, Ignacio J. Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the cost conscious behaviour ( ASF pays the bill ) Correction: CollabNet pays the bill. That said, bandwidth isn't the issue. The issue is the point you bring up...making it difficult to read the messages because people

Re: Superb OSS Java IDE

2001-12-04 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/4/01 8:23 AM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.eclipse.org OSS version of VisualAge for Java, by the team who does VA Java :) Excellent Cool news. However, it isn't truly superb until it runs on OSX. :-) -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [PATCH] about kjc

2001-12-01 Thread Jon Stevens
on 12/1/01 10:08 AM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, tomcat users and developrs! /* I have post this patch twice. This is third time. */ Do you know kjc which is one of the completely opensource Java compiler? If not, you can see detail at http://www.dms.at/kopi. Accoding

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/bin setenv.shcatalina.sh tool-wrapper.sh

2001-11-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/27/01 2:34 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Index: setenv.sh === #!/bin/sh # - # setenv.sh - File to hold all user customizable

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/binsetenv.shcatalina.sh tool-wrapper.sh

2001-11-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/27/01 3:09 PM, Patrick Luby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, What I could do is not distribute the setenv.sh file and, instead, check for the existence of this file. If it exists (which would only occur if the user has created the file), then catalina.sh and tools-wrapper.sh would

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/binsetenv.shcatalina.sh tool-wrapper.sh

2001-11-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/27/01 6:11 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I'm very cautious in the Windows installer to not overwrite the config files. It has lots of problems (which are slowly getting resolved), but not that one ;-) Remy Actually, that is still a problem. If the server.xml file

Re: 4.0.1 ClassLoader breaks singletons on webapp reload.

2001-11-25 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/25/01 9:57 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, there's a reason for this, as a selective reloading would be a very complex thing to do. Remy More like damn near impossible. Once the previous classloader has been trashed, all objects which were created within it

Re: Getting involved

2001-11-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 11/11/01 6:47 AM, Florin Daneliuc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hy, my name is Florin Daneliuc, I'm a last year student Automation Department(even if I preffer programming) and i would like to get involved in the Tomcat project. I have some knowlege of C/C++/Java/Perl (belive me I can't

The irony of it all (was: Re: t3 and sun.com)

2001-10-28 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/28/01 10:30 AM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, but they KNOW. And they insist a lot on how Tomcat 3.3 must keep compatibility with the Java Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications, because it is the reference implementation. See the irony now? Have fun, Paulo Gaspar

Re: SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-10-02 Thread Jon Stevens
We are now discussing this problem on JSR-053's mailing list. It turns out that several other vendors break the spec and do somewhat close to the right thing. :-) Unfortunately, due to the politics at Sun, only members of the JSR can see this discussion. Sorry. -jon

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 3884] - SingleThreadModel servlets notpooled results in low performance

2001-10-02 Thread Jon Stevens
In the bug report 3884, Craig wrote... However, instead of synchronizing on the entire session object (which is similar to what STM does on the entire servlet), the internal code locks *only* on the attributes collection: public void setAttribute(String name, Object value) { ...

Re: SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-10-01 Thread Jon Stevens
on 10/1/01 9:09 AM, Steve Downey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As another datapoint, static content with Apache doesn't work if you append path info to an HTML page, i.e. http://www.foo.com/index.html/foo/bar, doesn't deliver index.html. But PHP does work. -jon

Before I file a bug report...

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
I want to get confirmation that this is a valid url: http://localhost:8080/examples/jsp/snp/snoop.jsp/foo Where: PATH_INFO=/foo The error that I get right now is: HTTP Status 404 - /jsp/snp/snoop.jsp/foo The requested resource (/jsp/snp/snoop.jsp/foo) is not available. Please note that:

Re: Before I file a bug report...

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
following the suffix PATH_INFO. I should be protected against DOS attacks of really long URI's by the limited length that Catalina will accept for URI's. -jon on 9/30/01 1:25 PM, Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to get confirmation that this is a valid url: http://localhost:8080

Re: Before I file a bug report...

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 3:15 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mmmm, I'm not too sure about all this. The servlet spec seems to imply that the extension mapping is on the end of the path. Section 11.1, item #3 : If the last segment in the URL path contains an extension (e.g. .jsp), the

SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 5:47 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the conclusion was that the HTTP spec is wrong and we should follow the Servlet spec. That is complete BS. The servlet spec shouldn't 'override' what is defined in the HTTP spec unless absolutely necessary. This is definitely not

Re: SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 3:57 PM, Ignacio J. Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You lost, this URL does not work in IIS ( 404 ).. Ug. I guess so. JSP == ASP. :-( -jon

Re: SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 7:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I agree with you - but I feel ofended by the 'you' in this phrase. I didn't removed it - I spent quite a bit of time and arguments to keep it in. BTW, it has nothing to do with the HTTP spec ( which doesn't specify

Re: SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 8:45 PM, Bill Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As much as my personal preference is the same as Jon and Costin, it seems that section 11.1 rule #3 explicitly dis-allows extension mappings to have a PATH_INFO. spec-quote If the last segment in URL path contains an extension (e.g

Re: SCRIPT_NAME and PATH_INFO with extension mapping

2001-09-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/30/01 10:30 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's unfortunate that this didn't come up a few weeks ago, before the finalization. I'll add my voice to the general sentiment that the servlet spec really should've have tried to supercede the HTML spec on this, whether they

Hard coding HTML within Catalina...

2001-09-26 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/26/01 10:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +sb.append(htmlheadtitle); +sb.append(Globals.SERVER_INFO).append( - ); +sb.append(sm.getString(errorReportValve.errorReport)); +sb.append(/title); +sb.append(STYLE!--H1{font-family :

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/utilProcessHelper.java

2001-09-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/21/01 6:26 PM, Rob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly! The answer is/was well, it works, deal with it yourself. I'm not (wasn't) in a position of authority, so there's not much I could do. My boss was there, he agreed with that statement shrug. Some people have very little

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/utilProcessHelper.java

2001-09-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/20/01 4:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Javadoc errors make Jon nervous (fix for bug 3681). No. I consider javadoc errors like having C compile warnings. They don't break the build, but they look ugly and are a sign of sloppy engineering. -jon

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/utilProcessHelper.java

2001-09-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/21/01 12:49 PM, Rob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Javadoc errors make Jon nervous (fix for bug 3681). No. I consider javadoc errors like having C compile warnings. They don't break the build, but they look ugly and are a sign of sloppy engineering. Sometimes I wish I had half

Re: Proposed Patch for #3733

2001-09-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/20/01 2:21 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I cannot see that this would cause any difficulties with dependencies. Can anyone else see a problem with it? Craig McClanahan +1 I'm ok with the filters being initialized first since I'm not using any. :-) Thanks for the

Ldap.jar license

2001-09-18 Thread Jon Stevens
-1 I do not agree to this license for inclusion of ldap.jar in Tomcat 4.0 final. 124 -rw-rw-r-- 1 jon wheel 123717 Sep 17 19:36 ldap.jar This is a similar license to the old Servlet API 2.0 license and I never agreed to that one for inclusion in Jserv on pretty much the same

Re: Ldap.jar license

2001-09-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/18/01 2:31 AM, Brian Behlendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: There is no way in hell that I'm going agree to put the ASF (or myself) in a position to take responsibility for any legal claims that come up as a result of use of this .jar file. Carefully

Re: Ldap.jar license

2001-09-18 Thread Jon Stevens
I love your flaming reaction Craig. You are trying to justify two wrongs making a right or something. on 9/18/01 9:09 AM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coming from someone who bragged (at his ApacheCon London session on Turbine) about not caring about violating license

[T4] Build Frustration

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
It frustrates me to no end that building Tomcat 4 is dependent on Sun .jar files that require a registration in order to download. BUILD FAILED /Users/jon/checkout/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/build.xml:117: Could not find file /Users/jon/checkout/jndi-1.2.1/lib/ldap.jar to copy. At least one of

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0 build.properties.sample

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/17/01 8:55 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, I agree with the general principle of using the same name as it unpacks with, but the jndi1_2_1.zip download doesn't even have an internal directory -- so the name people use is arbitrary. Craig Hmmm...Stuffit

Compile errors

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
I'm trying to build off the tomcat-4.0 branch and it isn't working... It seems that for some reason, the copying of the files over to the build directory is commented out. Why is that? It says that one cannot re-distribute the JSSE stuff, but this is for BUILDING, not distribution. The

Re: [T4] Build Frustration

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/17/01 9:25 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My main concern is that the current build system will definitely scare away the casual contributor (who usually submits one or two patches to fix the bug / problem he found, or add one or two features). Yet, having bug reports with

Another build problem...

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
What the heck? I have all the stuff configured properly (with the right versions) in the build.properties. I'm using Ant 1.4. -jon build-main: [style] DEPRECATED - xslp processor is deprecated. Use trax or xalan instead . [style] java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:

Re: Another build problem...

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/17/01 9:40 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Put Xalan 2 (from the JAXP package) in you $ANT_HOME/lib. That should fix it. Remy That's cute. Where is that documented? -jon

Question

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
Why is this in the jakarta-tomcat-4.0/build.xml: property name=servlet.home value=../jakarta-servletapi-4/dist/ If you comment out the servlet.home in the build.properties, you still can't build the thing because the catalina/build.xml file is executed with the wrong relative root and you

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 3681] New: - javadoc errors

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/17/01 10:10 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3681 Summary: javadoc errors Product: Tomcat 4 Version: 4.0 Final Platform: Other

[T4] License Issues and more....

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
It looks like the T4 distribution violates a bunch of licenses: Tyrex: 1. Redistributions of source code must retain copyright statements and notices. Redistributions must also contain a copy of this document. Nope, I don't see a copy of the license for Tyrex...or licenses for any of the other

Absolute necessary .jar files?

2001-09-17 Thread Jon Stevens
? common/lib/activation.jar ? common/lib/crimson.jar ? common/lib/jaxp.jar ? common/lib/jcert.jar ? common/lib/jdbc2_0-stdext.jar ? common/lib/jnet.jar ? common/lib/jsse.jar ? common/lib/jta-spec1_0_1.jar ? common/lib/ldap.jar ? common/lib/mail.jar ? common/lib/naming-common.jar ?

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/webapps/tomcat-docstomcat-docs.xsl

2001-09-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/12/01 7:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Remove a width=100% setting from the table generated for attributes lists, to see if that helps avoid problems where the right side of the documentation pages are cut off for some users. Nope. That problem happens as a result

Tomcat 4 Bug reports

2001-09-12 Thread Jon Stevens
...now go to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. -jon

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0/webapps/tomcat-docsjndi-resources-howto.xml

2001-09-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/12/01 4:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +source +lt;resource-env-refgt; + lt;Descriptiongt; +Object factory for MyBean instances. + lt;/Descriptiongt; + lt;resource-env-ref-namegt; +bean/MyBeanFactory + lt;/resource-env-ref-namegt; +

Re: [VOTE] Bug Notification E-Mails

2001-09-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/10/01 12:19 AM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since we're at putting more eyballs on some bugs, if someone could come up with a reliable test case for bug 3511 (http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3511), which was reported by Jon, that would be great :) Remy

Re: [VOTE] Release Plan for Tomcat 3.3 (final release)

2001-09-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/10/01 9:12 AM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Tomcat 3.3 Final Release Plan Ballot = [ ] +1I am in favor of this plan, and will help [ ] +0I am in favor of this plan, but am unable to help [ ] -0I not in favor of this plan [X] -1I am opposed to

Re: [VOTE] Bug Notification E-Mails

2001-09-10 Thread Jon Stevens
I just have to say that it is cute how all of you get your panties into a wad when I suggest something and then end up going with my original suggestion. :-) -jon (runs for cover)

Re: [VOTE] Release Plan for Tomcat 3.3 (final release)

2001-09-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/10/01 1:14 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To be fair, I see only 12 bugs with Tomcat 3.x, and ONLY ONE on 3.3 I'm also worried about regression testing. , whereas there are 26 on Tomcat 4.0 currently open, and you didn't vote -1 on 4.0's release plan... I'm not trying to

Re: [VOTE] Release Plan for Tomcat 3.3 (final release)

2001-09-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/10/01 1:44 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll read that as: There shouldn't be any confirmed bugs above at major or higher severity open in the bug database. Otherwise, I disagree with your statement. We can still release if there are some, but that will need a vote on

Re: [VOTE] Release Plan for Tomcat 3.3 (final release)

2001-09-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/10/01 2:13 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, let them do their fucking job... If we gave them committer access, it means that we trust them. If they say that 3.3 is ready to go, well, I'm not going to stop them because FIRST I never contributed a line of code, SECOND I

Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
I think that new bug reports should go to the tomcat-dev mailing list. Not to individuals. Edit component ... Initial owner Catalina[EMAIL PROTECTED] Connectors [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jasper [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tester [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unknown

Re: Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/9/01 6:49 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, I agree with you, maybe responsible is the wrong word... I have no problems in moving all emails to the list (as I get a copy of each single mail bugzilla sends). Sending mails to individuals IMO is better because the people

Re: Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/9/01 8:46 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I was flamed for setting it up that way when I installed BugZilla on Nagoya... When was the decision made to change it? Was it done on this list (or general@jakarta) or was it done privately behind Sun's walls? :-) -jon

Re: Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/9/01 8:43 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is another point: What if one of you goes on vacation and forgets to make the switch to assign it to someone else? The *only* thing that will notify the list of the bug is the weekly email

Re: Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/9/01 9:17 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I honestly didn't intend to piss you off or start an argument. I just thought I'd make my own personal preference known, but it's not really an issue I'd argue about =) +1 If people can't abide by majority votes and want to bitch

Re: Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/9/01 9:55 PM, Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When was the decision made to change it? Was it done on this list (or general@jakarta) or was it done privately behind Sun's walls? :-) -jon Let me also point out that all of the people who are responsible for the bug reports

Re: Bug reports

2001-09-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/9/01 10:48 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's never been changed ... even in the previous installation of Bugzilla (that led to the first hack on Apache's web site), there were individual names attached to Tomcat components. Not according to Pier's posting: And I

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/compilerTagGeneratorBase.java

2001-09-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/7/01 12:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We use the following mapping: substitute '-' with + * #1, '.' with $2, and ':' with $3. + */ #1? -jon

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/compilerTagGeneratorBase.java

2001-09-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 9/7/01 1:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Submitted by: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Imagine that, a correction to a JSP patch :-) Maybe now I can put on my resume that I contributed to the development of JSP

FW: [PATCH] TDK running with JPDA

2001-08-24 Thread Jon Stevens
This is more a catalina specific patch...Craig, mind applying it? thanks, -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Henning P. Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: INTERMETA - Gesellschaft fuer Mehrwertdienste mbH Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: hometree.jakarta.turbine.dev Date:

Re: [PATCH] TDK running with JPDA

2001-08-24 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/24/01 12:08 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds good. I generalized it slightly so that you can set different debug options with JPDA_OPTS but it defaults to the value included in this patch. Craig Thanks Craig. I knew you probably had a better patch... -jon

Re: [VOTE] New Tomcat Committer

2001-08-24 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/24/01 1:20 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As Jon informally did last week or so, I'd like to formally propose Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a committer on Tomcat. He's contributed lots of useful discussion, patches, and documentation (particularly in the area

Re: [TC4] error building tomcat-docs

2001-08-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/21/01 3:21 PM, Bernard D'Have [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does anybody has resolved this issue? thanks Bernard Yea, it is called Anakia, but some people refuse to use it. -jon

Re: [TC4] error building tomcat-docs

2001-08-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/21/01 3:58 PM, Rob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea, it is called Anakia, but some people refuse to use it. I didn't know Anakia fixed parsers on the Win32 JVM ;) - r I have yet to hear of a bug report with regards to parsers on Win32 with Anakia. I have yet to be able to get

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-service/docs service.cssservice.html

2001-08-20 Thread Jon Stevens
Why is this a .html file and not a .xml file? -jon on 8/20/01 6:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pier01/08/20 18:13:13 Added: docs service.css service.html Log: Initial (not finished yet) writing of a specification for Service classes. Revision

[t4] potential issue

2001-08-12 Thread Jon Stevens
I'm using an older version of T4 so this may have already been fixed...I just noticed it in the log files...when Turbine is shutdown, it seems that the classpath is not correct and Turbine can't find a bunch of classes... -jon 2001-08-12 20:46:58,097 [Thread-3] INFO default -

Re: [t4] potential issue

2001-08-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/12/01 10:08 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there's still a problem, please report a bug to our bug tracking system: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ :-) Done. -jon

Re: [t4] potential issue

2001-08-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/12/01 10:08 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If there's still a problem, please report a bug to our bug tracking system: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/ :-) Btw, I also added 4.0 Beta 7 and 4.0 Beta 8 as version values. -jon

Re: Catalina Startup Hook (actually, both camps should read this:-)

2001-08-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/6/01 10:31 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But I have to say, from someone without a great deal of personal investment in either tree in particular, ALL of you people should be damn proud. Wouldn't it be amazing if they had just worked together though? All that great

FW: Velocity and JSP speed testing...

2001-08-06 Thread Jon Stevens
Not exactly scientific, but I do trust Rickard to do things correctly...he has an existing JSP page for testing and then converted it to Velocity...here are the results... JSP - 240-480ms Velocity - 50-70ms You make the decision. :-) -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Rickard Öberg

Re: Velocity and JSP speed testing...

2001-08-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/6/01 7:45 PM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Never been a fan of JSPs myself, but seeing Velocity (lately I had to install it for EyeBrowse on Nagoya, and it was painful) I'm not a big fan of that thing either. Installation != Use Remember the old JServ 1.0 days when it

Re: Velocity and JSP speed testing...

2001-08-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/6/01 7:18 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: Not exactly scientific, but I do trust Rickard to do things correctly...he has an existing JSP page for testing and then converted it to Velocity...here are the results... JSP

Re: Velocity and JSP speed testing...

2001-08-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 8/6/01 9:24 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Totally OT, bandwidth-wasting, irrelevant musings P.S. ... Where did that Paulo Gaspar cat go? That guy was always interesting in a flame war, especially with Jon involved. Man ... dude did NOT like Jon, but he sure loved

Re: [TC4] jakarta-regexp.jar

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/19/01 10:58 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm positive Jon will be +1 for this :-), but I'm very -1 for reasons that have been discussed at length on this and other lists in the past. Storing JAR files is evil, because it creates dependencies on those particular

Re: [TC4] jakarta-regexp.jar

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 1:29 AM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why could still use symlink as I do in my RPM :) ln -s jakarta-regexp-1.2.jar jakarta-regexp.jar Doesn't work on winblows. -jon

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0 RELEASE-NOTES-4.0-B6.txt

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 1:36 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Windows coming in few days, as someone broke into my apt tonight and stole a couple of PCs and god knows what else... Other OSes, after I get back from the cops (thank god I keep my Macs in by bedroom). Pier (nothing _ever_

t4 - jasper go boo boo

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
I just did a fresh cvs update, ant clean, ant and I get this... -jon [176][ ~/checkout/jakarta-tomcat-4.0 ]% ant clean Buildfile: build.xml clean: build-clean: dist-clean: clean: build-clean: dist-clean: clean: build-clean: dist-clean: clean: build-clean: dist-clean: clean: BUILD

Re: t4 - jasper go boo boo

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 3:13 PM, Kevin Seguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you need a new servlet.jar. update and build jakarta-servletapi-4. Ok...cool... Fyi...i'm getting these javadoc errors when building it... [javadoc] javadoc: warning - Tag @see: Class or Package not found: java.io.Buf feredWriter

Re: sun.tools.javac.Main will be removed from JDK1.4

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 3:45 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a question to satisfy my own curiosity (and possibly point out my compiler ignorance WRT using sun.tool.javac.Main and/or JSP compilation [since I don't do JSP]). You mention speed being the primary factor in using the Main

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-4.0 build.xml

2001-07-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/20/01 4:38 PM, Glenn Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You are easily amused. I'm surprised at how neutral your echo is for Jasper, I would have thought you would use something like echoTarget: Jasper - Tracking, Firing, Hit.../echo ;-) Glenn This is the new nicer Jon. JSP

Re: [TC4] jakarta-regexp.jar

2001-07-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/19/01 7:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S. I'd like to propose that jakarta-regexp project name all their jars jakarta-regexp.jar no matter what version they are. This doesn't affect the decision here. -1 Until we have a CJAN, I like version numbers on jar files.

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tomcat 4.0-beta-6 Release on Thursday 07/19/2001

2001-07-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/17/01 12:19 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please vote on a Tomcat 4.0-beta-6 Release: [*] +1 - I support this proposal, and will actively assist [ ] +0 - I support this proposal, but do not have time to assist [ ] -0 - I do not support this proposal, but am not going

Re: Alternative to NSI

2001-07-17 Thread Jon Stevens
Why the heck does it matter what installer software that we use? As long as people can easily modify it without having to purchase expensive software and that it does the job well, all that matters is that someone is doing the work to create the installer. I don't care if it is Java based or not

Re: Fatal Error:missing resource:java.util.PropertyResourceBundl e

2001-07-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/17/01 7:16 AM, Rino Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there: I tried to use a bean in a jsp page. i got a error Fatal Error:missing resource: java.util.PropertyResourceBundle could u pls help me? First: Don't use JSP. As you can clearly see, it is riddled with mysterious gremlins

HTML filtering on tomcat-dev

2001-07-16 Thread Jon Stevens
to implement, especially since Jon's been running it on the Turbine lists. Pretty please ... I'll dance at your wedding =) - Christopher Jon Stevens wrote: on 7/13/01 12:26 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not familiar with list managing software myself, so I'll ask

FW: HTML filtering on tomcat-dev

2001-07-16 Thread Jon Stevens
FYI... Down with that bastard HTML email crap. :-) -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Brian Behlendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 16:42:35 -0700 (PDT) To: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HTML filtering on tomcat-dev Done. Brian On Mon

Re: HTML filtering on tomcat-dev

2001-07-16 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/16/01 5:44 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In addition to leaving my inbox blissfully free of such abominations, I have a feeling it will also reduce the amount of user questions on the dev list. I've noticed that a good percentage of the HTML-formatted posts, the vast

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat-connectors/webapp Makedefs.inMakefile.in configure.in

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/12/01 7:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pier01/07/12 19:06:33 Modified:webapp Makedefs.in Makefile.in configure.in Log: Modified build procedure (now building also Java files). Pier, You should have the Makefile just call Ant in order to build the

Re: What if your message doesn't make to this list...

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/13/01 8:57 AM, Pier P. Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got pretty upset with a couple of guys whose messages along the lines of fix my servlet, and who asked me WHY I rejected those posts... Now, let me explain... This mailing list is related to the CODE in Tomcat, and its

FW: security, predictable seeds for SessionID generation in Tomcat

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
Dunno why he is sending this privately to the group he picked...but whatever... Funny thing is that he quotes a reference to Ian Goldberg who is a good personal friend of mine. LOL. -jon -- Forwarded Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:29:29 -0400 To: [EMAIL

Re: OT - HTML dev-list filter?

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/13/01 12:26 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not familiar with list managing software myself, so I'll ask some of you who are. Is there any decent way of bouncing HTML-formatted messages from the lists (or at least this one)? Another OSS project I am involved in bounces

Re: What if your message doesn't make to this list...

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/13/01 12:57 PM, Christopher Cain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pier P. Fumagalli wrote: I got pretty upset with a couple of guys whose messages along the lines of fix my servlet, and who asked me WHY I rejected those posts... [snip] I have a quick question, more out of idle curiosity

Re: Jasper and parsed tree

2001-07-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/13/01 1:49 PM, Glenn Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me this seems a bit off topic for the list. This list is for Tomcat development. Tomcat implements the Servlet and JSP specifications. The below has nothing to do with Tomcat development IMHO. Regards, Glenn Yea, we told

Re: Jasper and parsed tree

2001-07-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/11/01 8:19 PM, John Yu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the explanation, Craig. JCCSP is JavaCC grammar based. (See http://home.earthlink.net/~shemnon/ ) Would there be any opportunity to merge this into Jasper? (While it's currently GPL, Donno has no problem to place it under

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-tomcat/src/facade22/org/apache/tomcat/facade HttpSessionFacade.java

2001-07-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/12/01 3:46 AM, GOMEZ Henri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 7/10/01 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: public long getLastAccessedTime() { -checkValid(); -return realSession.getTimeStamp().getLastAccessedTime(); +checkValid(); +return

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/catalina/src/share/org/apache/catalina/loaderWebappClassLoader.java

2001-07-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/12/01 2:22 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Implementation note : class and JAR reloading is not supported in non standard class repositories. Define non standard. -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels.

Re: [DOC]: Vote on oustanding doc issues?

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 4:06 AM, Rob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PDF conversion would be pretty cool... Anyone feel like coming up with a sheet to generate XSL:FO? =) We have started that here: http://jakarta.apache.org/cvsweb/index.cgi/jakarta-velocity/whiteboard/dave b/pdfvsl/ Not perfect yet because

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/compilerParserController.java

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 1:12 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: %@ include file=XX % says file and is thus relative to the JSP file. jsp:include page=XXX / says page and is thus relative to the JSP page. Try teaching that to a web designer. Bah. JSP sucks. -jon

Re: cvscommit:jakarta-tomcat-4.0/jasper/src/share/org/apache/jasper/compilerParserController.java

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 3:25 PM, Rob S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ha! I've been working with JSP since 1999 and I never caught that! Even more proof! :-) JSP is overly complex and takes *years* to master. :-) -jon

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat/src/facade22/org/apache/tomcat/facadeHttpSessionFacade.java

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 4:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: public long getLastAccessedTime() { -checkValid(); -return realSession.getTimeStamp().getLastAccessedTime(); +checkValid(); +return realSession.getTimeStamp().getLastAccessedTime(); } I

Re: cvs commit:jakarta-tomcat/src/facade22/org/apache/tomcat/facadeHttpSessionFacade.java

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 4:29 PM, Ignacio J. Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hola Jon: Who will cry for the lost of tabs? me not.. perhaps you? :) Lazy Consensus 3 days for a -1.. if anybody complaints ( more ) i will rollback and reapply my patch.. Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega I would say that

Re: t4 - status check

2001-07-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/10/01 8:04 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS: I know you didn't ask for a timeline, but I'd like to float a concept and see how the other developers feel about it: The Servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 specs will go final (along with the rest of the J2EE specs) sometime in the

Re: [PRE-PROPOSAL] jakarta-tomcat-doc sub-project : WAS:[TomcatDocu mentation Redactors To Hire]

2001-07-09 Thread Jon Stevens
on 7/6/01 9:53 PM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It would sure be nice to have a little HOWTO on what tags (like document and section) Anakia recognizes, and what they do :-). Anakia recognizes *any* tags. It is the Jakarta-Site2 module's stylesheet which is the key. Needless

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