Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-06-16 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:20:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: Then there would be a toy I'm calling toyboxes. Hmm, seems toybox does not like toy names that partially match the names of other toys. Every time I try to use toyboxes, it finds toybox instead. -- A big old stinking

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-06-17 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:14:34 +0800 Roy Tam roy...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sat Jun 16 08:47:05 PDT 2012 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:20:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: Then there would be a toy I'm calling toyboxes. Hmm, seems toybox does

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-06-17 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 01:28:40 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 06/16/2012 10:47 AM, David Seikel wrote: On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 21:20:11 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: Then there would be a toy I'm calling toyboxes. Hmm, seems toybox does not like toy names

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-06-21 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 17:21:48 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 08:48:36 +0200 Jens Staal staal1...@gmail.com wrote: torsdagen den 21 juni 2012 15.00.07 skrev David Seikel: I was pretty much coming to the conclusion that I would have to write something

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-06-30 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:00:08 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 06/30/2012 03:42 PM, David Seikel wrote: There are times scrolling existing text would be nice. Keep in mind that's half of what less does. I did not mean the functionality of scrolling text, I meant using

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-06-30 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 18:36:55 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 06/30/2012 06:10 PM, David Seikel wrote: And people will scream if I leave out emacs. shrugs I honestly don't care, but if it's easy to do... I don't care about emacs or vi, but vi is apparently mandatory

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-07-01 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 20:02:55 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 06/30/2012 07:01 PM, David Seikel wrote: Oh yeah, my infrastructure is aiming at sed to. All fairly similar at the basic level anyway. What does interactive line editing have to do with sed, a line-by-line

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-07-01 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 01 Jul 2012 11:58:05 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I'm adding a chunk at a time and checking it in. I have somewhat elaborate plans, but they change as I go along. Your design of course takes into account none of _my_ elaborate plans, but since I haven't checked them in

[Toybox] Pocket workstations.

2012-07-18 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:25:13 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 21:48:25 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 03/07/2012 06:34 AM, David Seikel wrote: lots of cutting (Personally I'd also want a touch screen I can use my finger nails

Re: [Toybox] new toy : w command

2012-07-18 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 11:40:59 -0700 Tim Bird tbird...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Gaurang Shastri gmshas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, Please find attached the initial implementation of w command. Output after compiling my code with toybox : {{{ [root@stark

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-08-04 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 16:14:54 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 15:10:59 +1200 Andre Renaud an...@bluewatersys.com wrote: No, they have an implementation of screen. The first one I used (circa 1993) was from Sun. The wonkypedia article says the first

Re: [Toybox] linenoise

2012-10-27 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 12:26:28 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 12/05/2011 05:11:52 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Mon, 5 Dec 2011 14:41:06 +0100 Jens Staal staal1...@gmail.com wrote: Would this be interesting for some toybox utilities? https://github.com/antirez/linenoise

Re: [Toybox] New tests for dirname and wc

2012-11-25 Thread David Seikel
/me picks two things out of this long email to comment on. On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 22:39:41 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I had to redo which (from where I left off cleaning it up) because: A) getdate() didn't do what I thought it did. It hasn't got any built in date-guessing

Re: [Toybox] Fix, killall is not allowed to kill itself

2012-12-16 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 16:54:24 +0100 Elie De Brauwer eliedebrau...@gmail.com wrote: The LSB specification of killall says A killall process never kills itself (but may kill other killall processes). The current implementation of killall does not adhere to this rule, with the patch in attach

Re: [Toybox] Editors and such.

2012-12-27 Thread David Seikel
Wasn't getting to sleep, and this discussion should be here rather than the Aboriginal Linux list like earlier today. On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:16:15 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 09/05/2012 11:11:09 PM, David Seikel wrote: But as I mentioned, not interested in a bug hunt right

Re: [Toybox] Pending tweak to license text.

2013-03-13 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 13 Mar 2013 00:23:10 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Nobody but me is likely to care, but I'd like to simplify the first paragraph from the current: Permission to use, copy, modify, and/or distribute this software for any purpose with or without fee is hereby

Re: [Toybox] complaining about 'ifconfig' - better use 'ip'

2013-04-04 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 10:17:17 +0200 Bastian Bittorf bitt...@bluebottle.com wrote: i will. there is no work done anymore on ifconfig, even the manpage says to switch. My copy of the ifconfig man page does not mention the ip command, and certainly does not say to switch. On Wed, 03 Apr 2013

Re: [Toybox] complaining about 'ifconfig' - better use 'ip'

2013-04-04 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013 11:42:00 +0200 Bastian Bittorf bitt...@bluebottle.com wrote: * David Seikel onef...@gmail.com [04.04.2013 11:25]: My copy of the ifconfig man page does not mention the ip command, and certainly does not say to switch. http://linux.die.net/man/8/ifconfig http

Re: [Toybox] complaining about 'ifconfig' - better use 'ip'

2013-04-05 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 5 Apr 2013 10:02:40 +0200 Bastian Bittorf bitt...@bluebottle.com wrote: * Rob Landley r...@landley.net [05.04.2013 09:00]: this is wrong: lo:0 is no interface, so why does it show an extra interface? I note that technically lo isn't an ethernet interface in the first place, so

Re: [Toybox] Posix: failing by omission since 1988.

2013-06-26 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:06:28 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Remember: the S-100 systems were standardized. (IEEE 646 was it?) The PC systems were merely copying what IBM did, then what Compaq did, then copying each other. Guess which won? I remember S-100, I used to work with it a

Re: [Toybox] Posix: failing by omission since 1988.

2013-07-02 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 01 Jul 2013 12:51:44 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 06/26/2013 10:43:42 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Wed, 26 Jun 2013 01:06:28 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Remember: the S-100 systems were standardized. (IEEE 646 was it?) The PC systems were merely

Re: [Toybox] Fwd: [New Toy - patch] add ps watch

2013-08-20 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:55:24 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 08/20/2013 04:46:20 AM, Ashwini Sharma wrote: Hi Rob, Attached are the patches for _watch_ and _ps_ command. Sent _ps_ again, just in case you lost the last one. This one also have a copyright update.

Re: [Toybox] Fwd: [New Toy - patch] add ps watch

2013-08-27 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:52:25 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 08/21/2013 06:47:34 AM, David Seikel wrote: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 02:11:39 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 08/20/2013 11:15:42 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:55:24 -0500 Rob

Re: [Toybox] FTP commands

2013-11-05 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 20:06:10 -0800 ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 01:05:50AM +0200, Bertold Van den Bergh wrote: Can commands be accepted that are not on the roadmap? I will certainly need 'ntpdate' which for embedded systems is better than a full blown ntpd. That

Re: [Toybox] FTP commands

2013-12-12 Thread David Seikel
First of all, could every one stop CCing me, I'm actually on the list and I'm getting this entire conversation twice. It seems every one just copies the CC list from the one they are replying to, then adds one. The CC list has been steadily growing here. lol On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:39:56 -0800

Re: [Toybox] Finally removed the python requirement.

2014-01-04 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 03 Jan 2014 19:04:37 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Now generated/help.h is made by a C file, every build, and I don't have to treat that file specially during clean or cutting release tarballs, and no weird python2 version probing. Yay! Cool. I always enjoy when people

Re: [Toybox] Some questions re: init...

2014-01-05 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:07:51 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 01/05/14 20:31, ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 11:49:31AM -0600, Rob Landley wrote: I'm pretty happy just hardwiring in TERM=linux if it's not already set. (Although possibly this is the shell's

[Toybox] generic editor code

2014-01-26 Thread David Seikel
I'm finally getting back to working on my editor. At least for the next week. I broke this out of the other thread, it should have it's own. On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 10:41:39 -0800 ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 01:18:46PM +1000, David Seikel wrote: I note that patch does

Re: [Toybox] generic editor code

2014-01-30 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:26:16 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: I'm finally getting back to working on my editor. At least for the next week. I broke this out of the other thread, it should have it's own. snip I've fixed up the bit rot, and got joe / wordstar stuff to work

Re: [Toybox] generic editor code

2014-01-31 Thread David Seikel
Oops, found a small design fault. I'm fixing that now, and will send an update later today. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [Toybox] generic editor code

2014-02-26 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 20:56:53 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 12:21:29 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: Oops, found a small design fault. I'm fixing that now, and will send an update later today. This time for sure. Fixed up the bottom

Re: [Toybox] generic editor code

2014-03-14 Thread David Seikel
In another thread you recently said - Feel free to remind me about stuff that got buried. So I guess it's time to remind you about this again. A couple of posts up is where I put the code. On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:15:22 +1000 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2014 20:56:53

Re: [Toybox] fold implementation

2014-04-04 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 03 Apr 2014 21:32:02 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 04/03/14 19:29, Samuel Holland wrote: On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: The -u option to fold isn't currently being used... Could you describe a little more how unfold would work?

Re: [Toybox] Generic editor. Was: fold implementation

2014-04-08 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 18:57:24 +0200 Hadrian Węgrzynowski hadr...@hawski.com wrote: Dnia 2014-04-09, o godz. 02:45:55 David Seikel onef...@gmail.com napisał(a): Advanced editors allow arbitrary mappings between keystrokes and commands. In this case having strings would be the way to do

Re: [Toybox] Generic editor. Was: fold implementation

2014-04-14 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 17:20:13 -0500 Robert Thompson robertt.thomp...@gmail.com wrote: If we're lucky, simply hardwiring the terminal and key codes that overlap between the screen terminal, the linux console, and the documented xterm codes should give us a subset that is very widely supported

Re: [Toybox] Generic editor. Was: fold implementation

2014-04-14 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 21:00:37 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I'm strongly tempted to just treat both escape sequences as we saw an escape sequence and then the things after that translate the same whether they were after the two char or the one char version. That's what I do.

Re: [Toybox] Generic editor. Was: fold implementation

2014-04-15 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:41:11 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I'd be interested to know which terminal programs sent which keys. I've created a showkey toy for just that purpose. But mostly what I was thinking is that either escape, followed by the rest of the sequence, is unique

Re: [Toybox] license.html page update.

2014-04-16 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:00:32 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I'm planning to check in the attached www/license.html update after the 0.4.8 release. Any comments? I have no problem with it. This doesn't change the actual LICENSE file, it just adds some explanatory text at the end

Re: [Toybox] Toybox - size, what's in it and command overlays!

2014-05-15 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 16 May 2014 13:15:19 +1000 scsijon scsi...@lamiaworks.com.au wrote: Considering what is now within toybox and the increase and spread of command content range it has and is being added. I was wondering if it's time to think about splitting some of it's content out into a number of

[Toybox] Fw: [Aboriginal] Aboriginal Linux on Google play.

2014-05-29 Thread David Seikel
There you go Rob. Now I gotta pull my finger out and actually make the app. Begin forwarded message: Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:30:03 -0600 From: Bruce Gardner To: David Seikel onef...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Aboriginal] Aboriginal Linux on Google play. Absolutely. Thanks David. -Bruce

Re: [Toybox] Fw: [Aboriginal] Aboriginal Linux on Google play.

2014-05-29 Thread David Seikel
I have no idea why that got duplicated. shrugs -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Toybox mailing list

Re: [Toybox] Hello world.

2014-06-17 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:47:58 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Sorry for the radio silence, I took friday off to prepare my talk for Texas linuxfest and instead managed to give myself heatstroke (missed my bus stop going to the convention center, the walk from where the bus dropped me

Re: [Toybox] getty questions.

2014-06-29 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 09:19:45 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Looking at getty, it has a lot of modem support, including autodetecting the rate of incoming modem connections from the CONNECT message. Do you actually have a use case for this? Are there still modems in live use in

Re: [Toybox] Gonna have to do the release in the morning.

2014-10-01 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 22:05:44 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Finishing the release notes, test building LFS under aboriginal, the two musl patches so I can do the static binaries against musl... Not quite gonna get this done tonight. (Close. Working on it...) One of two Xeno code

Re: [Toybox] [Patches] - Some more static analysis fixes

2014-10-09 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:43:25 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: --- getty.c.patch: I actually have a pending cleanup to getty I haven't checked in for ages because I haven't got a serial port setup lying around to test. It redoes the speed calculatons to look like: Er, serial port

Re: [Toybox] ?from left field

2014-10-19 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:17:44 +1100 scsijon scsi...@lamiaworks.com.au wrote: I was wondering if toybox 'could / would be able to' have an auto tool built into it. I'm not a coder, so can't do it, but Along the line of: -- If toybox had the command 'siliswap' built into it, but it's

Re: [Toybox] archivers, read-write loops

2014-12-17 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 17 Dec 2014 13:45:19 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: Dear thunderbird, genericization is so a word. Oh good grief it's got a squiggle under thunderbird. I am not capitalizing the t. Deal with it. Ok, if the above two are separate sentences, full of squiggles.

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2014-12-19 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:54:55 -0800 enh e...@google.com wrote: (sadly the most common request seems to be ooh, does this mean we can have less now?.) Actually I made a start on less, and more, and a bunch of editors, and got them working at a basic level. Robs just been too busy to get my

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2014-12-19 Thread David Seikel
from the mksh shell function, but people still complain they really want less. (afaict, mostly for the ability to go backwards and search.) On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 4:30 PM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 11:54:55 -0800 enh e...@google.com wrote: (sadly the most

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2014-12-20 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:30:01 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 12/19/14 18:52, David Seikel wrote: On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 16:43:51 -0800 enh e...@google.com wrote: i was thinking about writing a trivial termcap implementation that just returns the xterm-color answers

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2014-12-21 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 21 Dec 2014 15:42:01 -0800 enh e...@google.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, James McMechan james_mcmec...@hotmail.com wrote: On 12/20/2014 05:55:45 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:30:01 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 12/19/14

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2014-12-22 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 22:21:26 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 12/21/14 17:42, enh wrote: On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM, James McMechan james_mcmec...@hotmail.com wrote: On 12/20/2014 05:55:45 PM, David Seikel wrote: On Sat, 20 Dec 2014 19:30:01 -0600 Rob Landley r

Re: [Toybox] Screen vs. tmux (was: optional fatter cat(1))

2014-12-28 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 03:12:03 + (UTC) Jason Spiro jasonspi...@gmail.com wrote: Rob Landley rob@... wrote: I plan to implement vi over the next year, but it's one of the four realy big commands required by posix (sed, awk, sh, vi) and I've been debugging sed against real-world data

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2014-12-29 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 16:10:07 -0500 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Rich Felker dal...@libc.org wrote: On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 10:21:26PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote: I plan to implement vi over the next year, but it's one of the four realy big

Re: [Toybox] service

2015-01-02 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 1 Jan 2015 10:22:46 -0800 Isaac Dunham ibid...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 01, 2015 at 09:35:31AM -0500, stephen Turner wrote: while doing some searches on scripting i was reminded about service and noticed it wasn't in toybox. Is this a oversight or not in intended

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2015-01-01 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 1 Jan 2015 14:04:41 -0500 dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 1:39 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: I have a simple test to decide if I like an editor as a result of these decades of random editor usage. If I can't sit down with the editor

Re: [Toybox] toybox in Android status

2015-01-02 Thread David Seikel
So if Android is switching to toybox, is my unfinished project to create a toybox installing app now obsolete? I was stuck on what to do if busybox is already installed and has symlinks plastered all over the file system. I'm still thinking about how to deal with that. -- A big old stinking

Re: [Toybox] Mail list service

2015-01-24 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 19:55:01 -0500 stephen Turner stephen.n.tur...@gmail.com wrote: Im setting up my project resources and didnt see a mail list service on sourceforge. Anyone reccomend a free service that wont spam the users or sell thier email address? Sourceforge has mailing list services,

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] Don't check whether . or .. are RTCs.

2015-01-23 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 20:18:45 -0600 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 01/22/15 23:11, enh wrote: This probably only seems worthwhile to those of us who spend a large part of every day staring at strace output, but in case you're interested... Before (on a device with only one

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] optional fatter cat(1)

2015-01-03 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:31:38 -0500 Rich Felker dal...@libc.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 04, 2015 at 02:24:19PM +1000, David Seikel wrote: On Sat, 3 Jan 2015 23:07:55 -0500 Rich Felker dal...@libc.org wrote: If vi/uemacs/joe/nano are trivial extensions of the same basic infrastructure

Re: [Toybox] Did I mention the release?

2015-03-19 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 20:52:46 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: The other thing is that top does terminal control similar to less. And watch should do the same, and ps does a _little_ of the same. (They query the terminal size and truncate output at screen width and screen height.) So

Re: [Toybox] [Aboriginal] notcurses

2015-05-15 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 15 May 2015 17:24:03 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On 05/15/2015 01:40 PM, Kartik Agaram wrote: Rob, I just had your post from the 27th pop up on my RSS reader: http://www.landley.net/notes-2015.html#27-04-2015 Technically this is a toybox question. :) Are you

Re: [Toybox] Did I mention the release?

2015-04-07 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 14:16:00 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I need to reread this thread after my california trip and update the roadmap. Quite POSSIBLY what I need is a slushpile.html where instead of why this command should go in I have a list of commands and notes about what I

Re: [Toybox] What should I do with my boxes generic editor code?

2015-05-29 Thread David Seikel
Well, the evening I had said I was gonna reply got eaten up by four unexpected visitors in a row. Time to do so now. On Tue, 26 May 2015 15:31:57 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:08 AM, David Seikel onef...@gmail.com wrote: This has been most frustrating

[Toybox] What should I do with my boxes generic editor code?

2015-05-25 Thread David Seikel
This has been most frustrating. tl,dr - Getting boxes into toybox has entirely failed for four years, which has blocked the progress of both. Let's do something about that. I've been trying for years (since 2011) to get my generic editor code (boxes) into toybox, so far with zero movement on

Re: [Toybox] What should I do with my boxes generic editor code?

2015-05-26 Thread David Seikel
I have to go to work soon, but I can quickly reply to this bit, then answer the rest later, after work, or during a break in work. On Tue, 26 May 2015 15:31:57 -0500 Rob Landley r...@landley.net wrote: I remember at one point I asked if there was a way to chip off a hundred or so

Re: [Toybox] How do I tell cyanogenmod they're wrong?

2016-05-29 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 29 May 2016 22:33:32 -0500 Rob Landley wrote: > Browsing through the cyanogenmod repository. Since they never > submitted patches to me I'm not going to copy their stuff verbatim > (technically it could be under a different license), but I'd like to > address their

Re: [Toybox] awk seen in the wild

2016-07-18 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:03:18 -0400 dmccunney wrote: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 3:17 PM, Rob Landley wrote: > > > The lua thing fell apart trying to write mount, ifconfig, netcat, > > losetup, nsenter, ionice, chroot, swapon, setsid, insmod,

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] Add "microcom" to pending.

2017-01-23 Thread David Seikel
On Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:25:47 -0600 Rob Landley wrote: > P.S. How is spider-man _not_ an Australian superhero? Bojack Horseman is more our style, coz Australia's deadliest animal is now ... horses.

Re: [Toybox] Release fiddling, need another day or two.

2017-10-06 Thread David Seikel
On Fri, 6 Oct 2017 19:16:45 -0500 Rob Landley wrote: > None of these messages have shown up in the web archive since > dreamhost "fixed" it. There's nothing for the month of October yet. > > Dreamhost is really, really, really bad a this. Is it time to move to someone other

Re: [Toybox] Fun with the android NDK.

2018-09-08 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 8 Sep 2018 18:43:17 -0500 Rob Landley wrote: > The big driver for both memory and storage consumption since the DOS > days has been increasing display resolution and video, but a 4k > display is the same resolution as digital cinema blown up on the wall > of a theatre

Re: [Toybox] Tired of gmails nonsense.

2018-12-11 Thread David Seikel
Rob Landley wrote: > On 12/4/18 1:30 PM, Ivo van Poorten wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 13:54:10 +1000 David Seikel > > wrote: > >> I'm not sure if it's gmails fault entirely, but I've only been > >> seeing about half of the posts to this list. M

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH 1/2] macOS: use getconf rather than nproc for portability.

2018-11-28 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 17:11:03 -0800 enh via Toybox wrote: > yeah, bitrot is my big fear too. i really don't want to have to > actually get a mac. (even if i'm not paying for it, this current > macbook pro genuinely is the most awful laptop i've ever used.) > > but i suspect i could always just

Re: [Toybox] Tired of gmails nonsense.

2018-12-04 Thread David Seikel
> What are you using for spam filtering? On my mail server I don't have any spam filtering, but at my client end I use a mailfilter black / gray / white list which also sorts things into my local IMAP folders. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] macOS: move getmountlist.c functions into portability.c.

2018-12-05 Thread David Seikel
> There's something strange about gmail and this mailing list.  I still > can read your messages only from Elliot Hughes' replies (And of > course I saw that message since you Cc'ed me). I can't even find your > messages in the "Spam" folder in Thunderbird! Switching to no longer using gmail

[Toybox] Tired of gmails nonsense.

2018-12-03 Thread David Seikel
I'm not sure if it's gmails fault entirely, but I've only been seeing about half of the posts to this list. Mostly those from enh of late. I know others post, I ran see their replies in things enh quotes. Last month it was mostly just Robs posts. And yet another "membership in the mailing list

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] mktemp: fix the tests and the logic.

2018-12-07 Thread David Seikel
> Sorry for the delay replying, gmail unsubscribed everybody from the > list again and I had to do the web gui dance. I had left my read only gmail account on this list as a comparison to my account on my own email server. As expected, the gmail one did the bouncy spam thing, mine didn't. So

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] macOS: move getmountlist.c functions into portability.c.

2018-12-05 Thread David Seikel
Given the subject of this port of the discussion, apologies for the lack of attribution in the quotes below. > > Though now I'm getting annoyed at mailman sending plain ASCII text > > as base64 encoding. My email proggy can't handle quoting that. It > > didn't used to. > > I wonder if that's

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] macOS: move getmountlist.c functions into portability.c.

2018-12-05 Thread David Seikel
> What ever it is, this isn't the first mailman driven mailing list I'm > having that problem with. I wonder if there is a simple to use > "convert base64 encoded ASCII emails to just plain damn ASCII emails" > utility I can bolt onto my mail filtering pipeline and be done with > it? I logged

Re: [Toybox] Of course gmail unsubscribed me for that.

2019-01-13 Thread David Seikel
> If you also didn't get the big long "how patch works" email I sent > because gmail, it's at > http://lists.landley.net/pipermail/toybox-landley.net/2019-January/010049.html > > (It went OUT through gmail's smtp server, and was then bounced as > spam when the mailing list delivered a copy back

Re: [Toybox] alias tar="tar --restrict"

2019-04-05 Thread David Seikel
For what it is worth, OpenSim (the open source Second Life clone I do a lot of work in) has .iar and .oar files, which are just .tar.gz files with a specific restriction in the order of files in them. These files are archives of a users in world inventory, or parts of their inventory (.iar

Re: [Toybox] gmail unsubscribed everyone from the list again.

2019-02-09 Thread David Seikel
> I fixed it all up via the web gui when gmail did this last week, and > I just fixed it up again after yesterday's mass-bouncing, but I'm > kind of tired of it. > > As far as I can tell, other mailing lists are coming to a "gmail is > too dysfunctional to use with mailing lists" consensus: I've

Re: [Toybox] Alternatives to github?

2019-01-28 Thread David Seikel
> (I've been thinking of putting it on landley.net but dreamhost's docs > about putting anything there are all "you can store your website in > a .git repo, and then mirror your website repo to github!" That's not > what I'm trying to do, thanks. Can I get a cgit instance running on >

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] scan_key: support more terminals.

2019-04-11 Thread David Seikel
> > luckily i suspect in 2019 we mainly want function keys just so we > > can throw them away and get on to the next meaningful keypress! but > > i can easily put this back to one constant per key if you prefer. > > Unfortunately a command line utility doesn't get to _see_ the > function keys,

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] scan_key: support more terminals.

2019-04-12 Thread David Seikel
I presume you meant to send this to the list. On Fri, 12 Apr 2019 15:52:10 -0500 Rob Landley wrote: > On 4/11/19 9:46 PM, David Seikel wrote: > >>> luckily i suspect in 2019 we mainly want function keys just so we > >>> can throw them away and get on to the next meani

Re: [Toybox] I merged mkroot.

2019-08-24 Thread David Seikel
On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 11:56:12 -0500 Rob Landley said : > So if you "make root" it'll build a simple toybox based root > filesystem, and if you have $LINUX pointing to a linux source > directory, it'll build it based on whatever architecture your cross > compiler points to. Cool. I'd love to

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] vi: small fixes.

2019-09-08 Thread David Seikel
On Sun, 8 Sep 2019 03:03:52 -0500 Rob Landley said : > On 9/8/19 2:08 AM, Jarno Mäkipää wrote: > > Mailinglist didint send me Rob:s message and I feel like I am > > missing sometimes other messages too. But I saw robs message on > > archive so wanted to reply anyway so i copy pasted it here... >

Re: [Toybox] Toybox in Devuan / Debian. Was: [PATCH] losetup: fix the race.

2019-08-09 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 21:55:02 -0500 Rob Landley said : > On 8/8/19 9:00 AM, David Seikel wrote: > > Now that you mention it Devuan has a busybox package, via Debian, > > but no toybox package. If we want to do something about that the > > question becomes - do we push it

[Toybox] Toybox in Devuan / Debian. Was: [PATCH] losetup: fix the race.

2019-08-08 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 8 Aug 2019 08:10:12 -0500 Rob Landley said : > On 8/7/19 10:59 AM, enh wrote: > > and if the next stage in your personal "surely this can't be true?" > > journey is the same as mine, the answer i got from our init > > maintainer for the "why?" is that the kernel doesn't want to have > > an

Re: [Toybox] Fwd: hexedit uses VT-420 scroll ctrl sequences which dont work on tty1

2019-09-26 Thread David Seikel
On Thu, 26 Sep 2019 08:49:10 -0500 Rob Landley said : > On 9/25/19 12:59 PM, David Seikel wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 12:24:13 -0500 Rob Landley said : > >> On 9/24/19 1:18 AM, Jarno Mäkipää wrote: > >>> Hi > >>> > >>> I now tested

Re: [Toybox] Editor for toybox?

2019-09-24 Thread David Seikel
On Tue, 24 Sep 2019 12:50:12 +1000 scsijon said : > Do I remember you considering adding a multi-purpose editor into > toybox? I had written a very basic generic editor for toybox long ago, with plans to add more advanced features to it. Rob didn't like it, so it never made it in. That's been

Re: [Toybox] Finally being forced off gmail...

2019-12-17 Thread David Seikel
I didn't get that email, but I'm not using G Suite. On 2019-12-17 15:38:30, Rob Landley wrote: > Sometime between now and Feb 15 I need to move my email off gmail because pop3 > support is joining the Google Graveyard (at least that's how I read the > attached > email). I'll probably switch it

Re: [Toybox] Fwd: hexedit uses VT-420 scroll ctrl sequences which dont work on tty1

2019-09-25 Thread David Seikel
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 12:24:13 -0500 Rob Landley said : > On 9/24/19 1:18 AM, Jarno Mäkipää wrote: > > Hi > > > > I now tested to run hexedit in tmux: downscroll works but upscroll > > does not... Well we might say its tmux fault, but lots of people > > use tmux nowadays. And this behavior seemed

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] vi: don't exit on ^C or ^D.

2020-01-23 Thread David Seikel
On 2020-01-23 11:40:19, Rob Landley wrote: > My own todo list item for a text editor was to make a generic engine I could > implement vi, emacs, nano/edit, and joe (wordstar) keybindings on top of (and > MAYBE share plumbing with less and watch). Which I did write for you, including sharing

Re: [Toybox] Phone docking stations for general purpose computing.

2020-05-17 Thread David Seikel
On 2020-05-17 20:42:05, Rob Landley wrote: > Hey Elliott, USB-C to HDMI adapters are going for $5 now. If I grabbed > something > like https://www.ebay.com/i/312982429778 or > https://www.ebay.com/i/302957153131 > or any of the dozen others, and plugged that and my pixel 3a into the same >

Re: [Toybox] Phone docking stations for general purpose computing.

2020-05-21 Thread David Seikel
On 2020-05-18 23:49:49, Rob Landley wrote: > On 5/18/20 4:47 PM, scsijon wrote: > > Have a look for this, it may do for you. > > > > Hyper HyperDrive SOLO 7-in-1 - Silver > > https://www.hypershop.com/products/hyperdrive-solo-hub-for-usb-c-macbook-pc-devices > > > Turns a single USB-C port into

Re: [Toybox] Phone docking stations for general purpose computing.

2020-05-23 Thread David Seikel
On 2020-05-22 00:20:06, Rob Landley wrote: > On 5/21/20 9:49 PM, David Seikel wrote: > > So yep, we can prototype the idea now, but I have my doubts that the > > world is ready for it yet. After all, why sell a cheap phone with a > > single USB-C port that can do everythin

Re: [Toybox] init.c ? and oneit

2021-05-01 Thread David Seikel
On 2021-05-01 10:03:27, scsijon wrote: > > On 30/4/21 6:13 am, toybox-requ...@lists.landley.net wrote: > > On 4/29/21 12:08 AM, scsijon wrote: > > > On 20/4/21 5:19 pm, Rob Landley wrote: > > B) what spec? Posix doesn't _mention_ init (or mount), which is one of my > > persistent gripes about

Re: [Toybox] ftpget: Remove

2021-10-29 Thread David Seikel
On 2021-10-29 17:22:33, Eric Molitor wrote: >I genuinely had trouble finding an FTP server to test until I remembered >those two. Devuan Linux has FTP servers for both our ISO and package repos. My own Devuan mirrors support FTP, and my daily logwatch says people are using them.

Re: [Toybox] [PATCH] microcom: move from e[x]it to [q]uit.

2023-11-06 Thread David Seikel
On 2023-11-06 14:32:45, enh via Toybox wrote: > i suspect https://github.com/tio/tio#32-key-commands is probably > making new traditions right now. well, that and PuTTY! tbh, i only > ever see people on youtube using gui stuff; there's even a gtkterm! It's entirely likely that people like me that

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