Today's meditation is taken
from:
THE STRENGTH OF
SEEING
by Chip
Brogden
http://www.watchman.net/articles/seeing.html
"And when the servant of [Elisha]
was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with
horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him,
David: Thanks for the response. Lance
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From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 17, 2004 01:35
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] The Being and Nature of the Unborn Child
Lance wrote:
To ALL: I've read Bill's post by TFT. Biblically informed
Judy: Thanks for responding. Lance
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From:
Judy
Taylor
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 17, 2004 01:49
Subject: [TruthTalk] The Being and Nature
of the Unborn Child
From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To ALL:
I've read Bill's post by
jt: What is this Scottish Order of Christian Unity
Bill, is it Freemasonry or the unifying with Roman Catholicism?
No, it is not Freemasonry. Yes,it involves the RCC, but not
exclusively. The ScottishOrder of Christian Unityis one of the
oldest ecumenical bodies connected with the Churches
Izzy wrote:
... when God breathed into Adam, he had NO life in him;
being the first created creature. However, every baby
born has breath (oxygen) pulsing through his veins
before he takes his own first breath--his mother's.
Hi Izzy. If we continue to exchange on this, I hope you are
TFT wrote:
It is highly significant that the earliest text of
John 1. 13 refers directly to the Virgin birth of
Jesus: Who was born, not of blood, nor of the will
of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.
Judy wrote:
No, John 1:13 refers to those who are born of the
Spirit or
David Miller wrote:
We also should not assume that all knowledge and
truth is meant to come through the Bible.
Lance wrote:
David, please say the same thing in different
words so as to clarify your meaning.
The Bible is true, but it is only one witness to truth. Knowledge and
truth can be
David writesWell, the genetic code, while complex and a mystery at one
time, is no longer a mystery. We know that DNA and RNA have the necessary
code and mechanisms for coding for all that complexity.
David,
That just shows how far out of the loop I am -- and Torrance too, for that
matter.
Bill wrote:
I wasn't aware that science had isolated the
spirit gene. I wasn't even aware that it had
isolated the soul gene. Tell me more about
this; I am very interested.
Torrance's comment concerned explaining physical diversity of the
different parts of the physical body. He said that
To the contrary, I think Torrance is saying that if
it is personhood we are attempting to understand, i.e., the unborn child, the
topic of his discussion, DNA cannot explain it, no matter how successful we are
at reducing it; because "it is yet incomplete andindeterminate in
itself, and is
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Bill
wrote: I wasn't aware that science had isolated thespirit gene. I
wasn't even aware that it hadisolated the soul gene. Tell me more
aboutthis; I am very interested.
davidm: Torrance's comment concerned explaining physical diversity of the
David Miller wrote:The Bible is the real authority that should be relied
upon for information about spirit and soul. Really? Would that be your
interpretation of the relevant passages, word studies, scholarly sources
etc. or...? Wouldn't this be the 1 John discussion all over again? I
listened
Bill wrote:
To the contrary, I think Torrance is saying that if
it is personhood we are attempting to understand,
i.e., the unborn child, the topic of his discussion,
DNA cannot explain it, no matter how successful we
are at reducing it; because it is yet incomplete
and indeterminate in
David Miller wrote:
My viewpoint is that the flesh is flesh and
the spirit is spirit. The genes code only
for the physical and we inherit nothing
spiritual from our parents.
Judy wrote:
Your viewpoint is unscriptural DavidM because
the results of the curse can be detected
genetically
David,
I'll have to print this out to read later (and Lance's post also) when I
have time. But my point was not that have oxygen in it's body prior to
birth means the unborn child has a soul or spirit. Yes, every living human
cell has oxygen. My point was that Adam did not have this until God
Okay, David, I finished reading this post.
1) How do we know that God breathing into Adam is what gave him a soul or
spirit? How do we know He didn't do it just to get oxygen into him? I assume
that's where Adam got all three. However, I do not think the physical act
of taking a first breath
To add just one more thing. These questions always happen to be on subjects where Mormonism departs from the Christian faith and are designed to create a premise that once accepted lead to further LDS doctrine. If you know LDS doctrine you can see them coming a MILE away!Charles Perry Locke [EMAIL
Sure He sees your sin!
But he does not IMPUTE it to those that are Blessed!
Romans 4
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin.David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Smithson wrote: God does not see this sin -- it is covered.This idea is what I have serious problems with. Do
Question DaveH, can the blood of Jesus cover the sin of murder?Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Charles Perry Locke wrote:
DaveH, I know you say you are not on TT to espouse your Mormon Theology, but isn't that what you are doing with Terry below?DAVEH: Hmm.I'm just trying to answer the
This is LDS salvationTYPE 1 "RESURECTION"
All people will be ressurected in spite of their actions or faith even unbelievers heretics. Sort of like Jesus opened the door, without him no one can progress.
This is only the beginning, they must proceed with "EXALTATION" TYPE 2 to get to the
David, are you aware of Kurt Godel and his theorem
(proof?) that no system is complete in and of itself? I found a short bio. for
those who may not be familiar with him:
In 1931 the mathematician and logician Kurt Godel
proved that within a formal system questions exist that are neither
DavidM the citation is from the BOM, which is an obvious lifting of Ephesians 2:8-9
2 Ne. 25: 2323For we labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ, and to be reconciled to God; for we know that it is by grace that we are saved, after all we
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Joyous Shabbat Greetings in the
Matchless Name of YahShua !
Received the following writing this
afternoon on Romans 7.
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Sent: 04/17/2004 3:06 PM
Subject: Romans 7
Part II: Romans 7 As
the countdown to Pentecost continues, we'll
WRONG!!
Terry
Chris Barr wrote:
\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/
Joyous Shabbat Greetings
in the Matchless Name of YahShua !
Received the following writing
this afternoon on Romans 7.
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Sent:
Illinois Apologizes to
MormonsA delegation of Illinois officials, led by Lt. Gov. Pat
Quinn, traveled to Utah to express official regret for the 1844 murder of Joseph
Smith Jr., the founder of the Mormon church, and the expulsion of Mormons from
Illinois. The Illinois House approved a
I am into my busy season and sometimes there are a few long days. The past several days, it is eat, sleep and work. For an old guy, that is hard. Hey, works a curse.
But I am back, for what it is worth.
John
David Miller wrote:
What did I say in any of my posts that causes you
to
In a message dated 4/14/2004 6:50:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Perry clarified:
John, if your Christ is the brother of Satan, the literal son of a god
who was once a man who comes from the planet Kolob, then they may very well
be the same christ. But, if your Christ
In a message dated 4/14/2004 6:55:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A heartfelt amen to these words. When I was a kid ( I can just barely remember), the church I attended taught a 5 step "plan of salvation." Then I moved on and that was great, because the "plan of
In a message dated 4/14/2004 7:39:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This idea is what I have serious problems with. Do you really think God
is blind to your sin? Do others here who believe in the
Christians-continue-to-sin theology also think that the atonement means
that
Here is something I do agree with DavidM. DavidH IS a Mormon. I would expect him to refer to that teaching from time to time. He is great, i believe, in supporting his doctrine with KJV, leaving out of the discussion (generally speaking) the other Mormon writings.
John
In a message dated
In a message dated 4/14/2004 12:48:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John, what is hanging cabs? Im glad youre on the list, even at midnight. Izzy
I am a finish carpenter. "Cabs" is short for cabinets. Sorry for the lingo thing.
John
In a message dated 4/15/2004 7:14:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The answer to the question of who killed Jesus is:
Lance, Terry, Izzy, David M, John, Bill, Gary, Dave H, etc, etc, etc,
Izzy
Praise God for miracles -- Izzy is right and so IS TERRY.
John
\o/ !HALALU Yah!
\o/
Greetings DavidM et al in the
Matchless Name of YahShua !
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From: "David Miller"
Sent: 04/16/2004 8:58 AM
Subject: [TruthTalk]
Lying
A liar is someone who says something
that is not true in a conscious effort to deceive someone
Welcome back, old guy.
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From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 8:29
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christian
Perfection
I am into my busy season and sometimes
there are a few long days. The past
In a message dated 4/17/2004 8:13:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Welcome back, old guy.
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Looks like the new threads are interesting. I believe I will watch and read for a while -- but be it known that I am not far away. Good looking
Question, Kevin. If God does not
impute your sin (I assume you mean in eternity), do you still have to suffer
His judgment for it on this earth? Izzy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004
5:07 PM
To: [EMAIL
Kevin, surely you arent considering
it? DaveH isnt really that
bad.is he? Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004
5:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christian
Perfection
Question
John,
Work is a blessing. Working 7 days a week
is a curse.
Izzy
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004
8:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Christian
Perfection
I am into my
In a message dated 4/17/2004 9:05:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John,
Work is a blessing. Working 7 days a week is a curse.
Izzy
I am trying to believe !! Can we say cortisone shot -- woe is me ?
And Izzy --- if pastor Chris chooses not to practice I Cor
ROTFLOL
ShieldsFamily wrote:
Kevin,
surely you arent considering it? DaveH isnt reallythat
bad
.is he? Izzy
Question
DaveH, can the blood of Jesus cover the sin of murder?
--
~~~
Dave Hansen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.langlitz.com
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If you wish to
Hi John. I feel that this one paragraph you wrote has a lot of spin on
it, so I just want to try an frame it a little more objectively.
John wrote:
From time to time I see or I think I
see a condenscending spirit.
I do not think that I am any better than you or anybody else on this
list
In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
do not think that I am any better than you or anybody else on this
list (well, maybe I think I'm better than Izzy's cat), so perhaps what
you are seeing are just terse opinionated statements and nothing
Has anyone heard of Care of Souls by David Benner? A book on dream works from a Christian perspective.
John
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