Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
suggest He speak His will with regard to a polluted and sinful heart and have it change by osmosis? Would that not make us robot like?Judy Taylor wrote: On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:45 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a physical impossibili

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:00:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like it or not David, you are co-leader of a sectarian group. Can you justify this announcement Lance by giving us a list of the various sects that comprise this group? Mormon is obvious, what are the others.

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David could 'justify' this truth better than I, Judy. From: Judy Taylor On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:00:09 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Like it or not David, you are co-leader of a sectarian group.

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 18, 2006 09:00 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

[TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
David and Lance, why would you have the most interesting discussions off the list? Do you think the rest of us are too immature or not up to your level? I'm aware of E.W. Kenyon and Hobart Freeman, New Thought and on and on These are not sects per se even if these men did get off into

[TruthTalk] Is the day in Genesis literal or figurative?

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Sorry Kevin - I guess it is only myself who is not permitted to speak about torrance; seems to beOK for Lance and those he approves/respects ... you may not be on the "forbidden" list?From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Demonstrate that you and Torrance are 'as one' on this point, David.

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
: Speak of him all you wish, Judy. What you were doing was akin to Kevin stating that DH believes in the same Trinitarian God that he (Kevin) does. Thus 'embarrassment'! From: Judy Taylor Sorry Kevin - I guess it is only myself who is not permitted to speak abou

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
r homework on various topics along with your conviction and sincerity Judy, you get better and better. Many meanings elude you but, IFO have never thought it intentional thus, my use of the word 'elude' eh. From: Judy Taylor Why would you be embarrassed about torrance being

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
, thy name is ...well Judywell David! Even David, your 'knowing' colleague in all of his lucidity could not make known to you some things. That was my point, Judy. From: Judy Taylor Only we are not talking about me Lance The subject is you and your mentor. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
Since when has truth been evaluated by how many have in the past gotten of the track and fallen? As sad as that may be every one will stand or fall before his own Master. On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:34:49 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did not believe the former to have been

Re: [TruthTalk] Hell BoM

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
at exactly is the Kingdom to you Lance? On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:51:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It hasn't Judy but, untruth has. - Original Message ----- From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
ng, cannot happen. From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 19, 2006 09:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance, TFT, Promises etc And who is the 'knowing' colleague Lance? George Burns

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-19 Thread Judy Taylor
-0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like what Judy said. --- for ref: - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 06, 2006 12:34 S

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
You have one vivid imagination Gary; where oh where do you find Jesus wasting time on criticizing the Roman Empire? Being buried in a rich man's tomb is making a statement but not the same one as you are attempting to proffer. On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:57:40 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
OK Gary - what NT is telling you all this? Even the NIV says it was the chief priests and pharisees who were worried about the body and so Pilate told them to set up their own watch ... what voices are you listenting to in CO? On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:57:40 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:48:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More than one observation: There are plenty of reasons for believing that "day" in the creation account does not mean a 24 hour period. 1. First , the Hebrew word itself is not limited in definition to this

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
s comments below gives us a consistent explanation of the biblical notion that man is justified apart from obedience to the law. It beats a redactive explanation of same !! that's for sure. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy T

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
Because God's Word is true and every man a liar along with the fact that God was the only one there at the time and He has given us a written record through his servant Moses. This may be "simple minded" and "fundamentalist" to your frame of reference but I can guarantee I won't have to eat

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
explanation of the biblical notion that man is justified apart from obedience to the law. It beats a redactive explanation of same !! that's for sure. jd -- Original message -- From: Judy Taylo

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
ing God a liar'? IMO such micromanaging of the list says more about you than either of them. Remember the good old days when Gary and Slade moderated? From: Judy Taylor On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:48:37 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: More than one observation: There are plen

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
s, Judy. I took your interpretation to heart and, you are wrong vis a vis TFT's take on 'election'. I do see how you came to the conclusion you did, however. From: Judy Taylor Do you understand what you are reading yourself Lance? The statement below "Refo

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
th lay claim to a nonexistent promise and, thereafter exhibit the opposite in your writing. From: Judy Taylor Election rather than "justification" is the subject here JD; why do you seek to change it? And why is it that you and Lance can not accept the ob

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
y. He also knew the works of Calvin thoroughly as he was editor of the 22 volumes of Calvin's NT commentaries. Like all of redeemed humanity Judy, some of what persons say is worthwhile. From: Judy Taylor Why does he clearlyquote from what he does not hold to

[TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
In his writing below about "existential decision" Torrance confirms Calvin's doctrine of "Total Depravity" which teaches that fallen mankind is akin to a literal corpse and unable to make a decision that is anything but evil .. Unconditional Election follows along with Limited Atonement. I

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:24:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The pastor's comments in blood red. JD writes: More than one observation: There are plenty of reasons for believing that "day" in the creation account does not mean a 24 hour period. 1. First , the Hebrew

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
From: Judy Taylor In his writing below about "existential decision" Torrance confirms Calvin's doctrine of "Total Depravity" which teaches that fallen mankind is akin to a literal corpse and unable to make a decision that is anything but evil .. Uncond

[TruthTalk] torrance and the scots confession

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
f Scotland, attaining full legal status with the departure of Mary, Queen of Scots in 1567. On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:52:34 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since he quotes the Scots Confession, I would say his understanding could be found therein. On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0500 &

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
d we have but a week left then, let's not dwell overlong on your misunderstanding of T. F. Torrance. From: Judy Taylor Since he quotes the Scots Confession, I would say his understanding could be found therein. On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 09:47:33 -0500 "Lan

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
You JD obviously do not understand the meaning of either - do your homework and then we will talk. jt On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:12:36 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If anyone has expressed a belief in "total depravity," it is Judy Taylor -- what with her notion of the "gene

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-18 Thread Judy Taylor
... so carry on jd ------ Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:24:59 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The pastor's comments in blood red. JD writes: More than one observation

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Why try to confuse Conor right off the bat Lance? Genesis is not a "science book" per se. Although the writer of Genesis is also the God who created all that is called "science" Are you asking Conor to interpret Genesis in the light of Astronomy and Physics? Just this morning I read this

Re: [TruthTalk] Psychology versus anything pastoral

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
ions and the love that can command those actions and find sense in that which is nonsensical. jd How does one do this? I understood victory to be when we allow God to transform us - what example do you have of one who "captured Him?" How does love command human

Re: [TruthTalk] Physics, Astronomy and Genesis chapters 1-11

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:20:45 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is a physical impossibility for God? DAVEH: Did you ever read the SCREWTAPE LETTERS, Judy? At one point, Screwtape (the devil) tells Wormwood that humans are too quick to attribute their all their ills

[TruthTalk] Love and fear

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
ess (IMHO) jd I don't have to do the above JD becauseI have nothing to hide, nothing to protect, and no theologian to defend. I like all scripture equally, every Word of God because these are life to those who find them and health to all their flesh. ------ Original messa

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life No man comes to the Father BUT by ME John 14:6 On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:09:05 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..(e.g.) JC himself thinks David Moseswrote thetruth about JC himself, Bro On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:56:55 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Only necessary for the non inspired versions JD The KJV has no Copyright ie: Freely, freely, you have received.. On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:45:38 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: copywright info duly noted, brother bro From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "1 Lord, you have been

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
I think that's trueabout JC On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:18:36 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I AM the Way, the Truth, and the Life

Re: [TruthTalk] creation continued

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
Congratulations JD; I assume you are the proud Grandpa What a blessing from the Lord. Welcome Claire!! On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 04:51:09 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is a girl -- 6 pounds 6 ounces -- 17 3/4 inches long Claire Wilken

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
dualismis characterized bytwo absolutes bothrooted in arrogance) On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:02:49 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Pilate]knew nothing about Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] torrance.

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
He also says this: But the Scots Confession laid the axe to the root of any such movement when it insisted that we have to spoil ourselves even of our own regeneration and sanctification as well as justification. What is "axed" so radically was the notion of "co-redemption" which in our day

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
6:42 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pilate did not recognize the Truth

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Jesus Christ Truth?

2006-03-17 Thread Judy Taylor
anything to do with that innocent man"?) On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:26:42 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: His wife had more sense

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
2. The Spirit? 3. Logic? 4. Emotions? What role do each of these play in knowing truth? David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTa

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
times when people encounter those who have a confidence in a particular truth, they feel some kind of threat and want to knock down the confidence of that person. Have you ever noticed that? David Miller From: Judy Taylor The thing Paul is against is being a know it

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
at role do each of these play in knowing truth? David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:59

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Truth Knowable?

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
PROTECTED] writes: 'ALL WHO ARE TAUGHT BY GOD WILL SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT GENESIS CHAPTERS 1 - 11' Have we just been provided with a perfect standard for determining who is/who is not 'taught by God'? From: Judy Taylor I disagree with Lance. I say th

Re: [TruthTalk] A truly Wrighteous comment

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
he sacrificial law is what has passed away. Which is it -- in what light should we consider(contextually speaking) Paul's ministry in word? jd In light of the whole rest of the Bible because the same Spirit ministered and spoke through Paul From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] The relationship of sin and believers.

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Title: RE: [TruthTalk] The relationship of sin and believers. Hmmm! Looks like Paul had a different "Christology" because he clearly states that he had not yet apprehended - (see Phil 3:12,13). So it's undoubtedly safer to go further back than the "reformers" for a sound Christology lest we

Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS!

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:53:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David, I honestly see a huge difference. Joanna seems to believe that those with whom she is working are in need of help -- Maybe they are in need of help but from what Joanne says they are not open to receive it

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and fear

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
as to the source of this love; does it come from God to us (thus DRIVING OUT fear) or does it come from us (and fear is replaced as love increases..) How does this verse work for you in your theology? jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] What are you saying JD? All

Re: Fw: Fw: [TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS!

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
hoping she ditches the wrist support and I will hear her praise report tonight. David Miller - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: Re: Fw: Fw:

[TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS!

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
D; I don't know what Joanna is telling these ppl. If she is giving them a false security then she is not doing the work of the Lord. If she is warning them of what is to come that is another matter entirely. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 16 Mar 200

[TruthTalk] Hello

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
Welcome to TT Conor Glad to have you and thanks for sharing about yourself. judyt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hello Everyone, I recently joined truth talk and just wanted to introduce myself. My nameis Conor Mancone. I'll be graduating from the University of Florida in a fewshort months with two

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and fear

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
am sure you will disagree with that, but I do not not want to move on until you have answered my question. jd -- Original message ------ From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please answer my question first JD. What does your

Re: [TruthTalk] Comfort the FORNICATORS!

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
ved by the client, I cancel thesessions until the client is finished with her provider too confusing for the subject. jd -- Original message ------ From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 18:01:10 +0

Re: [TruthTalk] Love and fear

2006-03-16 Thread Judy Taylor
JD 2 Cor 5:10.11 is written by the same apostle as the scriptures you have posted below and believe me he never ever speaksout of both sides of his mouth ATST - this is our problem - not hisbecause 2 Cor 5:10,11 was written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit and it stands. Trying to

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
For someone whose expertise is withwords Lance, your friend sure plays fast and loose with them. Nowhere doesscripturesay "Christ became sin or a sinner" - Remember? He was "begotten not made, of one substance with the Father" - so even Orthodoxy disputes her thesis. It was on the cross

Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every generation. God does not change and neither does His Word which is forever sealed in heaven. As Dean warns - better be sure you are not dancing around a calf. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 05:42:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Each

Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
is world with hearts full of idolatry, I examine my own daily. Remember, we are all "by nature" children of wrath. That is unless we walk after the "new nature" From: Judy Taylor Not so Lance; Truth is fixed and eternal in every generation. God does n

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance's friend writes: It's QA, and the point I was noticing was that sinhas no existence apart from sinners What about the angels who sinned and are held in chains of darkness - are they persons also? And BTW what is personhood anyway? Last time I looked angels were ministering

Re: [TruthTalk] Dean as a candidate for Moderator?

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
Looks as though we have a major sin problem here. We need to be able to define persons and we need to know the difference between good and evil Slamming ppl is presumptuous sin along with taking offense. There is just ONE faith, once delivered to the saints. Why not be offended with what

Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
answer my question then, I'll 'give it a shot' as it were. From: Judy Taylor On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:02:02 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would you be so kind Judy, as to restate 'apprehend and apply' so as to demonstrate to me that ther

Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
even the possibility of conversation is over. From: Judy Taylor I am saying that I don't understand your question Lance - so it looks likeyou have excused yourself again. Why are you so full of conditions - is it really that difficult to say what you mean? On We

Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
You haven't answered my question Lance On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:03:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is objective truth, Judy. Some of that which you say is. From: Judy Taylor So what you are saying Lance is that there is no "

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
If I'm understanding Kevin correctly he is speaking of something different from Jer 31:33 and Heb 8. The Day of the Lord is what was feared so much in the book of Acts after hearing the apostles preaching that Simon the magician trembled and begged Peter to pray for him that none of the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
NO Jd Some of us believe the scriptural account which teaches us that as a person He was "begotten" not made The word JD is "monogenes" and it means one of a kind and different from the rest of us who were conceived in in sin and iniquity. YES Jd He did die unjustly and if you believe the

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: excerpt redux

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
BE WARNED!!! On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:21:33 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps only the definition of sin exists in the abstract. We I speak of "hating the sin" I only mean that I am displeased with the effects sin is having on his person. I think it a perversion to hate the

Re: [TruthTalk] Day of the Lord

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee If you are a JEW from what Tribe are you?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I'm understanding Kevin correctly he is speaking of something different from Jer 31:33 and Heb 8. The Day of the Lord is

Re: [TruthTalk] A truly Wrighteous comment

2006-03-15 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:05:52 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From NT Wright -- some comments that might help to put Paul and his thnking into a broader context. jd And the minute you think you’ve got him taped, ‘Here are his central ideas, bang, bang, bang’, you’ve made him

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
What you do JD is, resist presumption and assumption along with making a "carnal believer"doctrine out of one verse. We understandscripture in light of scripture and it is in the mouths of two or more witnesses that every word isestablished. On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:30:52 + [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] The 'spirit' of truthtalk?

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
l others unteachable, but then refuse to define your meaning? Do you wish to encourage others in the Lord or just hurl epithets? iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance MuirI won't BE answering you on this, Judy. Fr

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Stirring the pot is trying to do the "moderator's" job when you are not the moderator JD On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:46:18 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Since I wrote that post, you did it again -- obviously to make a point, Kevin. You fly in the face of the rules and then pretend to

Re: [TruthTalk] Redeemed but,' in process'?

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Where are you reading all these "great claims" Lance? I read the same TT that you do and I don't see them. Truth is truth regardless of where each of us is at today personally... and I know very little about how each one on TT lives their lives, especially the men; and you Lance are the

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
OOphs!! Me too?Sorry brotherDean. I did just what you say below which is "hit send" without checking the subject line No evil intent, just not paying enough attention. On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 06:40:28 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd: Judy this is also a rule that does not work

[TruthTalk] Carnal Christian? - Are these examples of your thesis JD?

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Porno star Mary Carey . and Bill Clinton With a Lutheran grandmother, Carey says she attended church regularly until the age of 12. Despite having numerous sexual partners, she remains proud of her occupation. "I probably have less sex with those guys than any college girl [typically

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Just my 2 cents but I get the idea that in some cases it is better to let Satan work them over for a spell until - like the Prodigal Son they come to their senses and begin to look for a better way, or else become bitter and give themselves over to self pity and athiesm or agnosticism...

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under Moderator

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
D] writes: cd: Judy he probably will be the next moderator:-) From: Judy Taylor Stirring the pot is trying to do the "moderator's" job when you are not the moderator JD On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 07:46:18 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] TruthTalk re: continued comments under

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
DavidM couldn't possibly be THAT busy On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:37:46 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vote for JDDean Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cd: Judy he probably will be the next moderator:-) From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] The dearly departed

2006-03-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Why do ppl so love darkness and gossip and one upping the next guy?? Along with stirring the pot - where's the love?? On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:22:45 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cd; They have been in contact with Miller- Blain, DH ,John, Gary- and believe it or not

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Haveaddicts entered into "His rest" JD - or are they still tormented by doubt and unbelief along with the physical unrest that goes with addiction? "Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest any of you should seem to come short of it [..] Seeing

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Subject: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens Well, since I'm being asked for a response on this...my initial feeling is that we need to live in the real world having contact with real people...perhaps listen a little more to

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Where in scripture is the "doctrine of the carnal believer" taught JD? Paul mentions baby believers being afflicted with envyings, strife, and divisions in your reference here. I don't see anything to do with fornication and/or addictions though. These are more akin to the "doctrine of

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Right JD, it is tough to argue with scripture when you know what it says - such as "The thought of foolishness is sin and the scorner is an abomination to men" (Prov 24:9) "If thou sayest, Behold we knew it not, doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul,

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Dylan

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Timely reminder KD I've just been reading the testimony of another "music star" and his wife, onewho struggled to free himself and theirmarriage from hisaddiction to pornography. The wife wrote: Whenever we traveled, I was a sucker for magazines that had stories with titles such as "10 Ways

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
BTW did Paul give the Corinthian congregation a guarantee that they were all going to make it? Or are you one of the "Once saved, always saved crowd" who has cut Hebrews 6:4-8 our of his Bible JD? On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 17:49:54 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is no time limit in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Joanna Williams - friend of some 10 years speaks on believing teens

2006-03-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Thanks so much Dean; they are not known as the "dancing brotherhood" for nothing ; that's for sure?? On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 16:16:14 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor Where in scripture is the "doctrine of the carnal

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
apostle Peter; he does not have a new message JD. It is your message that is the aberration, sin is an enemy that should not be tolerated in any form or fashion. From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Note: Free people are not in bondage; those walking in t

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: JOHN: An extended discussion on Person/Persons/Personhood including you, BT and, DM

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
She is not claiming any such thing, the victory always belongs to Christ and those who say what He says. You obviously have not read the "whole archives" JD. She did just what she said and the amazing thing (to me) was that Bill stuck around at least until this point. But this did not

[TruthTalk] JOHN: An extended discussion on Person/Persons/Personhood including you, BT and, DM

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
ed: Debbie, Caroline and Jonathan) Lastly, the demeanour of Dave Hansen is a model that IFO appreciate. Oh, so the above have escaped the "puerile thinking" label and pass muster with you and BT? Too bad this won't help them in the "day of the Lord"

Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Understanding is not the issue here Lance ... Did David Miller inquire of Blaine's expertise in astrologyregarding his birth sign? He either did or he did not regardless of personal views If he did then he IS NOT being misrepresented here. IF he DID NOT then someone is lying about it or

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
She said SCRIPTURE Gary - putSpringsteen and Dylan back on the shelf On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:00:13 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (Legalism your fathercourts Dualism your motherSpawns) On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:33:52 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Astrology-Miller

2006-03-11 Thread Judy Taylor
How can you so glibly mistake love for hostility Since you have never repented for calling me a liar for stating that Jesus is the TRUTH You should be extolling his grace(Dean's that is) On Sat, 11 Mar 2006 08:28:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: myth (also, the lack of certainty

Re: [TruthTalk] Contend for the Faith ONCE DELIVERED

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Jesus the chief peacemaker and "Prince of Peace" they tried to stone, push off a cliff andfinally crucified... when He was ready to lay down his life. jt From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are NO opposing op

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Open door on the journey

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
As I recall, you found the observations concerning it ('personhood') both ridiculous and humorous. - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: Tru

Re: [TruthTalk] Boring/Not Boring?

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Whoopdeedo!! The Judge of TT has made his pronouncement Lord forbid anyone should evaluate his accusations, judgments, and prolific references ... On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:01:04 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gary, John, DM, CM, DH, Iz.NOT boringIMO of

[TruthTalk] Boring/Not Boring?

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Where would you get the idea that your "opinion" is humble Lance when it is anything but ... True humilityagrees with God and says what He says. Your opinions are based upon a lot of things - never God's Word as revealed in scripture to my knowledge. You esteem those who believe they

[TruthTalk] JOHN: An extended discussion on Person/Persons/Personhood including you, BT and, DM

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
This is not an exhaustive anything, just a little of Bill's Calvinistic foundation which speaks to nothing of any consequence if one is not a practicing Calvinist. On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 12:02:03 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: FYI: Izzy, Judy, Kevin Dean. THANKS TO THE

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
What's all this for? Springsteen is about as bad or worse than Dylan Jesus was not an only son. He was an "only begotten" son. Angels are called sons, and Israel is called God's son. Jesus reading Psalms at Mary's feet? Give me a break. He had to go to the Synagogue to read the scroll,

Re: [TruthTalk] David Miller 2

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Yeah! And this was before Springsteen ... so go figure On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 18:45:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: interesting || "keep your filthy..Theology away from me." --Kevin, Fri, 10 Mar 2006 09:02:36 -0800 (PST) ||Lance Muir [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Believers in bondage to sin?

2006-03-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Note: Free people are not in bondage; those walking in the victory of Calvary are not in bondage It is those who have been overcome (and not by Christ) who have been brought into bondage. All very tricky and very twisted JD- this is not the faith ONCE DELIVERED TO THE SAINTS. However, Jesus

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