Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-02-01 Thread ttxpress
yep--you should receive the bat from Minnesota soon--as soon as it's turned--let me know when it arrives what you think, etc.,and i'll cash the check thank you! On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:48:27 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: g, did you get my check? jd --

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-02-01 Thread knpraise
Cash the check before it is too late !!! King of sounds like "save yourself," doesn't it? Seriously, go ahead and put it in the bank. yf jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yep--you should receive the bat from Minnesota soon--as soon as it's

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 8:50:58 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David yep--you should receive the bat from Minnesota soon--as soon as it's turned--let me know when it arrives what you think,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-02-01 Thread ttxpress
why didGodinvestpplwith two ears one mouth? On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 15:08:33 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ||..you can do that for money [,] why can't you do it for God:-)

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-02-01 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 9:23:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David why didGodinvestpplwith two ears one mouth? cd: Because if we used our mouth correctly we only need one-and hearing

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-02-01 Thread ttxpress
to listen two times more thantalk On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 21:49:41 -0500 "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/1/2006 9:23:09 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-31 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/30/2006 8:51:36 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David I have explained this numerous times, Judy. Reread my post of a few days ago pertaining to the intrinsic vs

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-31 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Don't let you thoughts drop to the gutters guys-take them into captivity-resist! - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/31/2006 12:00:40 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David ifyou're thinkin' of askin' JCs

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-31 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: If we can be adopted as sons into the household of God - why can't God the Word be adopted into humanity as the son of man? The only foundation for our adoption is that Christ became flesh. Without that, nobody can be adopted into the household of God. David Miller.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-31 Thread Taylor
Bill wrote: I believe he was the fruit of David's genitals according to the flesh, Judy. Do you believe the same? Judy replied: No . . . Bill then replied: This should clarify any confusion Dean may have had about being in agreement with [Judy] in regards to Christ being a

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
Bill you have a Greek gospel because your faith rests in Gk words .. I wonder, are allGreeks saved?? Jesus Christ is who His Own Word says he is whether or not orthodoxy agrees and whether you see it or not. Right nowyou are attempting to validate the pronouncements oforthodoxy which is the

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Taylor
The seed to whom the promises were made is SPIRITUAL SEED Bill and the second Adam is spiritual also (see 1 Cor 15:45,46). Please don't try to make it something it is not. Abraham BELIEVED God and it was counted to him for righteousness. His sperma who thought they all had it made in the

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Taylor
Oh, yeah, blame it on the Word. Bill - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:03 AM Subject: Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Lance Muir
One smiles, not, I trust in derision, Judy. Look Judy, DM has a 'Geek gospel' but, it is certainly not the case that all 'Geeks' are saved. So then, just to put your fertile imagination to rest, Judy, ..NO! 'who His Own Word say He is'...MEANING:As I, Judy Taylor (and, as I David Miller)

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
He does not have a human father Bill; he was fathered by the Holy Spirit and the family he was born into is that of Abraham/David. Why are you so adamant about what you can not possibly know. He was born holy. David was not (see Psalm 51:5) "Behold I was shapen in iniquity and in sin did my

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Taylor
I believe he was fruit of David's genitals according to the flesh, Judy. Do you believe the same? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, January 30, 2006 5:26 AM Subject: Re:

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
No; my belief is that Jesus was fathered in the womb of Mary by the Holy Spirit Why is the flesh connection so important to you Bill? On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 05:47:02 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe he was fruit of David's genitals according to the flesh, Judy. Do you

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
Either Jesus is the Christ of God through the blood line of David or He is nothing at all. You "spiritualize" all references to the genealogy of Christ, making the Old Testament record of no purpose when it comes to the positioning of the Messiah. It is a shame that you make Him to be something

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
While you are busy "spiritualizing" the story of Jesus, you overlook (or worse) what Paul is actually saying. You quote Gal 3:29 which says "And if you belong to Christ, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S OFFSPRING, heirs according to promise" and ignore the words of 3:16 "Now the promises were spoken to

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
I hasten to add a word of thanks to Bill for making this a clearly stated fact of scripture. jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] While you are busy "spiritualizing" the story of Jesus, you overlook (or worse) what Paul is actually saying. You quote Gal

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
If we can be adopted as sons into the household of God - why can't God the Word be adopted into humanity as the "son of man?" You are locked into a position you can not prove either way JD. How so, when the flesh profits nothing and the Spirit is what gives life? On Mon, 30 Jan 2006

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:12:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While you are busy "spiritualizing" the story of Jesus, you overlook (or worse) what Paul is actually saying. You quote Gal 3:29 which says "And if you belong to Christ, THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S OFFSPRING, heirs according

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
Completely bogus, Judy. For starters, you are now arguing that Jesus is the adopted Son of Man. Months ago, I charged that your doctrine would lead to the notion that Jesus is an adopted Son. I was referring to HisEternal Sonship -- little did I know that my prediction would be true as applied to

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
-- Original message -- From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 15:12:34 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While you are busy "spiritualizing" the story of Jesus, you overlook (or worse) what Paul is actually saying. You quote Gal 3:29 which says "And

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:35:08 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Completely bogus, Judy. For starters, you are now arguing that Jesus is the adopted Son of Man. Months ago, I charged that your doctrine would lead to the notion that Jesus is an adopted Son. I was referring to

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Taylor
I have explained this numerous times, Judy. Reread my post of a few days ago pertaining to the intrinsic vs extrinsic nature of the Atonement for starters. By the way, thanks for being honest. This should clarify any confusion Dean may have had about being in agreement with you in regards to

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't think Dean is as hung up on David's genitals as you are Bill. On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:02:41 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have explained this numerous times, Judy. Reread my post of a few days ago pertaining to the intrinsic vs extrinsic nature of the Atonement

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Dave Hansen
DAVEH: H.I wonder if there are any new TT subscribers today? And if so, I wonder what they might be thinking after reading some of our posts! :-[ Judy Taylor wrote: I don't think Dean is as hung up on David's genitals as you are Bill. -- ~~~ Dave

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread Taylor
I don't think Dean is as hung up on David's genitals as you are Bill. It's not my hang up, Judy, but yours. I am simply thrusting home the meaningLuke's words in regards to Christ's humanity. osphuos [UBS] reproductive organs (descendant Ac 2.30). [Friberg] (2) Hebraistically,

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread ttxpress
myth(Joseph's wife'sparents are alsoJCs human grandparents) On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:42:54 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..Jesus was fathered in the womb of Mary ..[but] He does not have a human father

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread ttxpress
ifyou're thinkin' of askin' JCs Momma,pray shedoesn't ask himto handle it for her On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:15:54 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..I wonder what[ppl] might be thinking after reading .. I don't think Dean is as hung up on David's genitals as you are Bill.

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
g, did you get my check? jd -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ifyou're thinkin' of askin' JCs Momma,pray shedoesn't ask himto handle it for her On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 19:15:54 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..I wonder what[ppl] might be

Re: Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-30 Thread knpraise
:-) -- Original message -- From: Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] DAVEH: H.I wonder if there are any new TT subscribers today? And if so, I wonder what they might be thinking after reading some of our posts! :-[ Judy Taylor wrote: I don't think Dean is

Fw: [TruthTalk] Christ, the Root and the Offspring of David

2006-01-29 Thread Taylor
"I am theRhiza ('Root' or 'Life-source')and the Genos (from which we get'gene' and 'genome,'hence 'Offspring') of David." Indeed, Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man -- he isboth the Maker and the receiver of David's "genetic" material. Likewise, "Before Abraham was I AM," and "Now