When I took a class on cults we were taught to start with what the "group" taught about Jesus. If they didn't believe that Jesus was God the Son, born of the virgin Mary, and that he was crucified,dead and buried, rose again and will come again, then we should be suspicious. Laura
The major
You explained away what Paul said in Romans 7. Nice talk from a closed mind. :-)
Glenn wrote:
We are still in the flesh. Your point of view is
so lopsided I am having a hard time following
you. You seem to ignore the flesh. Even Paul
said what he wanted to do he didn't do and
what he didn't
Glenn wrote:
The major reference "Cults Reference Bible" defines cults:
A group of people polarized about the religious interpretations
or teachings of a specific individual or organization. IT
ALWAYS CLAIMS TO BE IN HARMONY WITH
CHRISTIANITY, BUT IT ALWAYS ENDS UP
DENYING THAT JESUS CHRIST
Glenn wrote:
Are you claiming the KJ Version is free?
No, you are not.
Yes, I am saying that the King James Version is free. You can download it
on many web sites for free. You can get free Bible programs that include
the KJV (for example, at www.e-sword.net). However, you cannot download
OK, maybe I need a more balanced view of him. I don't think there is any doubt that he was immoral. I read an extensive article in seminary about the translators having a meeting to not translate "baptizo" as the King was not immersed. They didn't want to offend God and translate it sprinkling so
This is mass confusion. To believe this the way you are implying, you David, are not perfect... if you have not sold everything you have. :-)
The more we talk about perfection the more I see no one is perfect as God is perfect. To make that claim is blasphemy.
I wonder what you think about the
Glenn wrote:
If you say you are perfect as God, to me, you
are saying you have not sinned and the truth is
not in you.
I have sinned. In coming to Jesus, he forgives my sins and he cleanses me
of all my sins. Now I am a changed person. Don't you believe that sinners
can be changed by the
Glenn - The Bible talks about this picking over every jot and tittle. Ever learning and never coming to the truth. I see no difference. I honestly don't. You pay either way. Furthermore, you are overlooking American copyright laws. What were/are the copyright laws in England? You are overlooking
Glenn wrote:
David, I can't comminute with you on this.
You, my friend, Are so blinded on this subject
it is unbelievable. Baptizio is NOT a translation
but a compromise; a transliteration. They did
not translate the word. Much learning has made
thee mad on this. :-)
I understand that
Glenn wrote:
WHAT? No way. Just because DaveL says so
does not mean it is the official doctrine of the Mormons.
I read this also on the Mormon web site.
Glenn wrote:
LOL Anyone who disagree with you is wrong. Real
scholars agree with you and those who don't are not
real scholars.
You do not know whether there was a time in my life when I sold all that I
had or not. Neither do you know if I will do it again. Nevertheless, this
is not about me but about God and God's Word. So I'll ask the question
again.
What do you think about the rich young ruler who
wanted eternal
Izzy wrote:
I can only say that I appreciate your constant insistence
on living without sin, because you are the only person
I have EVER encountered who takes that approach.
Please understand that I am not the only one who believes like this. There
are millions of people who believe like
I think in your line of thinking you, DavidM, you have to sell all you have and give it to the poor. I think if you do not do this you are not perfect. There was a time in my life when I gave everything to the Lord (not the tithe but 95% or more) but kept a little money for gas and food. But it
OLDEST ARCHAEOLOGICAL LINK TO JESUS REVEALED
A burial box inscribed with the words James, son of Joseph, brother of
Jesus and dated to 63 A.D. was revealed Monday.
Read more at the following link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60769-2002Oct21.html
Peace be with you.
David
OLDEST ARCHAEOLOGICAL LINK TO JESUS REVEALED
A burial box inscribed with the words James, son of Joseph, brother of
Jesus and dated to 63 A.D. was revealed Monday.
Read more at the following links:
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Agreed.
I encourage you to follow the teaching in James 4 concerning repentance. I
spend time in prayer, looking at my sin the way God sees it. I ask God to
show me its ugliness. I weep over my sin. This might take place over one
hour, or it might be days or weeks. But I humble myself over it
Nevertheless, we also must
believe the good news, that Jesus Christ died for our sins, and that he was
manifested to take away our sins. Well, has he taken away our sins or not?
If he has, why then would anyone say that they still have sin?
Glenn - Then why did you say you? You can't weep over
Mormons cannot be trusted. They are in a con game over the dumbing of America. They say what needs to be said in order to seduce people into hell fire.
Glenn wrote:
WHAT? No way. Just because DaveL says so
does not mean it is the official doctrine of the Mormons.
I read this also on the Mormon
DavidM. LOL
Who determines what is a misinterpretation?
Then herein lies a problem with the King James. Their guidlines were wrong to start with. Bad foundation. No decision was made to translate a word before they came to the word to translate. I find this hard to believe.
But it is OK to make money off of the KJ Bible by selling it, but not OK to
All of this talk sounds nice, but there is one problem. It says be ye perfect as God is perfect. You explained away this teaching with some truth mixed in. Or what you said is mostly true, but the dots don't connect to what was said. It says we are to be perfect as God. No explaining can change
You're mixing Jesus the Son with God the Father. The verse says be ye perfect as God is perfect.
When Jesus was 1, did
he have all the abilities that he had when he was 5 or 12 or 30?
Yea, and lets kick people out of the church for smoking or working on Sunday or wearing the wrong dress in the name of perfection.
I had failed to make the connection between what you were saying and the Nazarenes. Now I understand how these perfect people stink more than ever with the sin of
Thought this article fits in with the recent discussion. Laura
Text Criticism and Inerrancy
How can I reconcile my belief in the inerrancy of Scripture with comments in Bible translations that state that a particular verse is not 'in better manuscripts'?
By J.I. Packer | posted 10/22/2002
The
Glenn, we seem to be going round and round without communicating, so I think
we might ought to close this thread. I just want to correct a few false
statements that you keep on making and tie up a few loose ends.
1. Glenn wrote:
Job said he was perfect but according to David he
lied because a
Blainer) Your forgetter must be getting better and better, huh Glenn?
Getting up there in years are you? (:) I got the number 130 out of a
book entitled 500 LITTLE KNOWN FACTS IN MORMON HISTORY, by George W.
Givens.
Splinter just means what you think it means, nothing more.
On Sun, 20 Oct
Blainer) You have to see this through spiritual eyes. Try thinking in
terms of food. If you eat a lot of junk-food, loaded with lots of empty
calories, you will probably end up with poor health. On the other hand,
if you are more particular about what kind of food you eat,, you will
likely
Blainer) I think you are going by your own narrow perceptions. When
you say Christianity rejects him, you are basically referring to those
ministers and/or bigots who have a vested interest in knocking Joseph
Smith and Mormonism. The key is the PAYOFF. What PAYOFF is there in
knocking
David,
I have searched for this previous email, but couldn't find it. Would it
be too much trouble for you to provide it again?
Izzy
Did you read the little book
that John Wesley wrote on this? I provided a link to it in a previous
e-mail.
--
Let your speech be always with grace,
What significance do you think this find has for us as Christians, if
any? I wish it could be proved that this was the actual, physical
brother of Jesus--at least that would put an end to all this Virgin Mary
worship, wouldn't it?
Izzy
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Glenn,
Which sin, exactly, is it that you do not
believe that you can avoid committing?
Izzy
-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002
2:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
Glenn, we seem to be going round and round without communicating, so I think
we might ought to close this thread. I just want to correct a few false
statements that you keep on making and tie up a few loose ends.
1. Glenn wrote:
Job said he was perfect but according to David he
lied because a
Blainer) All fundamental to Mormon belief, Laura. But Glenn insists we
are still a cult?
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:53:24 EDT [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When I took a class on cults we were taught to start with what the
group
taught about Jesus. If they didn't believe that Jesus was God the
Blainer) I don't know anyone who knows whether it is either 130 or 200,
or even that many. I think I was talking about what used to be, not what
is. That was then this is now. As I said, there are not that many left
that I could possibly identify at this time. Can you identify that many?
I
I can avoid all sins of co-mission/action. I can absolutely perfectly refrain from committing overt sins. I cannot be absolutely perfect in all of the sins like; absolute perfect love, absolute perfect peace, absolute perfect faith. Sin is much deeper than not committing adultery, etc,. It has to
Glenn - I say Mormons are not plain on their belief in Jesus. They seem to refuse to put up a cross in their buildings.
If Mormons believe in the Biblical Jesus they are not a cult. But this stuff about Jesus being created and the brother of Satan is suspect at best and perhaps they have Satan
In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:47:08 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
We have no restrictions
on what we read. It is purely a matter of individual choice. We are
counseled to use wisdom in our choices, however.
We are not the ones who are brainwashed!!! That is a joke,
PREBlaine, Do you believe Jesus is God the Son? Laura
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Yes, I stand corrected.
Blainer) Your forgetter must be getting better and better, huh Glenn?
Getting up there in years are you? (:) I got the number 130 out of a
book entitled 500 LITTLE KNOWN FACTS IN MORMON HISTORY, by George W.
Givens.
Hey Blaine..sounds interesting. Is it worth $20 (for a softbound, inc
shipping)??? Or should I avoid it?
500 LITTLE KNOWN FACTS IN MORMON HISTORY, by George W.
Givens.
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Dave Hansen
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If you wish to receive
Izzy wrote:
I have searched for this previous email, but couldn't
find it. Would it be too much trouble for you to
provide it again?
I sent the post with the link to John Wesley's book on Christian Perfection
on Oct. 16th. Here it is:
A Plain Account of Christian Perfection, by John Wesley.
Here we go again. There is no way DaveL is lying but this is a lie to me. He is brainwashed. Mormons
knock knock knock the Bible as having great missing parts and it brings me, Glenn, under the influence of Satan for following the Bible only.
DaveL does not agree with official Mormon doctrine to
No, not when you put them all together. How could we know we need some little correcting if we didn't have a bunch of them to go by? When we put them all together we know what God's Word is. It is inerrant!!!
This does not show great and precious parts missing!
Because the copying was
Of course, God has revealed others things not in the Bible. But these things are not on a par with the Bible. They are not additional Bible. And furthermore, I reject Joe Smith revealing of anything from God. And you know the historically reasons I believe this. You refuse to believe historical
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mormons
cannot be trusted. They are in a con game over the dumbing of America.
They say what needs to be said in order to seduce people into hell fire.
DAVEH: I'm sincerely sorry you feel that way, Glenn.
Glenn
wrote:
>
WHAT? No way. Just because DaveL says so
>
does
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This
is mass confusion. To believe this the way you are implying, you
David, are not perfect... if you have not sold everything you have.
:-)
The
more we talk about perfection the more I see no one is perfect as God is
perfect.
DAVEH: Sorry to interrupt, GlennBut
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Glenn,
as long as you have been on this forum, you should know that Mormons
teach that Jesus Christ
is the Lord God Jehovah of the Old Testament himself
in human flesh. All
I'm saying is that your book has a lame definition,
because that definition
does not include
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of
course, God has revealed others things not in the Bible. But these
things are not on a par with the Bible.
DAVEH: How/why do you make that judgment, Glenn? Is that just
a guess, or do you know something about what God reveals that would suggest
all of his relevant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of
course, some manuscripts have more hand written errors than others.
DAVEH: Then why did you find my original comment "I believe the Bible
to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly" to be a problem?
We
have to take them all together. IF have 50
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No,
not when you put them all together.
DAVEH: Are you saying that individually the translated/transcribed
Word of God can be a problem?
How
could we know we need some little correcting if we didn't have a bunch
of them to go by? When we put them all together we know
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