Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:11:49 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
FTR, on the
Letterman show tonite, Jimmy Carter,author of a new Revolutionary War
novel called _The Hornet's Nest_ (his 18th book, he said) commented that
there'd be no USA today had the
Oh,
duh...Now I get it!
I do
most of my work from home. Slade has taken off work when I've needed to be in
court with my clients, on occasion I've had a babysitter, but that isn't very
often. One of the reasons I'm holding the seminar is so I can get others trained
to do what I do. That
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
I've been watching the tax debate on TT and wondering
who knows what they are talking
about. So this morning
I asked my husband who handles our family finances for his input.
Hetells me that there is no way everyone didn't receive a break because all
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:31:48 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Oh,
duh...Now I get it!
I do
most of my work from home. Slade has taken off work when I've needed to be in
court with my clients, on occasion I've had a babysitter, but that isn't very
often. One of
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
What you will do to avoid the truth is
unbelievable.
Laura is (respectfully) wrong. I am
expounding on stuff that I am very familiar with. Have you gone to www.factcheck.org yet Judy? The site Dick
Cheney suggested? Have you read about Bushs distortions?
My
laundry is pretty intimidating as well. The washing machine runs on a daily
basis, except for Sabbath!
I have
a schedule I pretty much stick to in order to get everything done that needs to
be done. Slade also pitches in to help.
I
advocate for family rights. I'm the only trained
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:46:07 -0400 "Jonathan Hughes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What you will do to
avoid the truth is unbelievable.
Laura is
(respectfully) wrong. I am expounding on stuff that I am very familiar
with. Have you gone to
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:54:48 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
My
laundry is pretty intimidating as well. The washing machine runs on a daily
basis, except for Sabbath!
I
have a schedule I pretty much stick to in order to get everything done that
needs to be
There
are no trained advocates I know of in VA. There is one woman in VA who is
working in DC to change the laws. She focuses on Military
families.
Giftings are to know the system and be trained in how to fight it
effectively and legally. You do not need to be a speaker, most work is done
For
more information, Judy, here's a link to an article:
http://familyrightsassociation.com/departments/advocacy/suzanne_advocate.htm
Kay
Read green for the most current response. John
In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:07:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
slade -- This is another reason I find these emails frustrating. I now have to answer a slew of objections and to answer them makes the email confusing at
In a message dated 10/18/2004 7:21:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
READ YOUR POST JOHN.
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 13:56
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 4th Commandment
In a message dated
Jonathan wrote:
David, I am astonished that you have taken the time
to come out of hiding and post.
I don't think of myself as having been in hiding, but rather I just haven't
had time to keep up with all the posts. There is a difference you know.
Jonathan wrote:
Even bipartisan sites agree
Thanks Kay, This is an interesting thread and
"non-political" My brain is on overload with politics!
LOL Laura
Terry wrote:
Twelve hundred bucks. Don't ask me how cause I pay a guy
to figure that stuff. My wife draws a small retirement and I made
seven thousand in the shop last year. Other than that, social security
was our only other source of income, and that is about fourteen hundred
a month total
Jonathan wrote:
There are at least three people on this forum that believe that once
one becomes a Christian that they should be (and are) sinless
(David Miller, Judy Taylor, and Linda Shields).
A little clarification is in order here. I do not believe that when a
person becomes converted to
Jeff wrote:
... I asked the simple question,What is sin?
I have not read all the messages, Jeff, but I find your question here an
important one. It is helpful to define terms during any discussion.
Sin is basically missing the mark. Sin is that which eminates from self
interest rather than
Another post!!! Wow. I hope this means that you are back. We need you
on this forum.
www.factcheck.org is not applying liberal spin David. IT is misleading
of you to say so. It hits Kerry just as hard as it hits Bush. It is a
bipartisan site that even Dick Cheney suggests that people use. I
In a message dated 10/19/2004 6:34:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
My name is Terry, and I approve of this message.
I enjoy going to work with a smile on my pathetic looking face.
JD
Aye that was classic.
Jonathan Hughes
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4th Commandment
In a message dated 10/19/2004 6:34:49 AM Pacific
Daylight Time,
Mine, too. Glad you appreciated the
post.
Kay
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Thanks Kay, This is an
This would be a great discussion to have. I started this with you David
the day before you left the forum for other priorities. This was when I
'outed' you as a person who believes sin is a legal issue, not an
organic issue.
Defining sin in legal terms instead of relational terms will lead
Garf, I forgot the most important one!
One side believes that Jesus came to take care of sin (legal), the other side
(relational) believes that Jesus came to introduce us to abundant life in the Godhead.
One side believes that Jesus would not have come if sin had not entered the cosmos,
the
Jonathan wrote:
www.factcheck.org is not applying liberal spin David.
IT is misleading of you to say so. It hits Kerry just as
hard as it hits Bush. It is a bipartisan site that even Dick
Cheney suggests that people use.
From my perspective, FactCheck.org leans left a bit in its political
Jonathan, do you really believe that the legal issues and relational issues
regarding sin are mutually exclusive of each other? From my perspective,
there are both legal and relational consequences of sin.
Do you personally think that there are any legal consequences to sin?
Peace be with you.
myth:
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:52:03 -0400 "David Miller"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:If you're married, you got tax relief. If you pay any tax at all,
you got tax relief.
David Miller wrote:
Terry wrote:
Twelve hundred bucks. Don't ask me how cause I pay a guy
to figure that stuff. My wife draws a small retirement and I made
seven thousand in the shop last year. Other than that, social security
was our only other source of income, and that is about fourteen
Oh how I have missed the old David Miller debating tactics. Ask a
question - get some sort of agreement on something considered common
sense - and then whammo, come in for the crushing blow. I had hoped you
would have progressed beyond these tactics. Oh there I go thinking the
worst of people
And you were doing so good for a while.
Terry
Laugh! Ah well you knew it couldn't last forever. Every chance I get
to talk about the gospel it is going to come tumbling out. Once you
taste God's scandalous grace there is no going back.
Jonathan Hughes
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From:
Hughes Jonathan wrote:
This would be a great discussion to have. I started this with you David
the day before you left the forum for other priorities. This was when I
'outed' you as a person who believes sin is a legal issue, not an
organic issue.
Defining sin in legal terms instead of
Thanks so much Kay, and thanks for the URL. judyt
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 08:35:20 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
There are no trained advocates I know of in VA. There is one woman in
VA who is working in DC to change the laws. She focuses on Military
families.
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
I don't think so Gary, I feel no obligation at all to know everything about
everything.
So long as I am apprised of the most important. jt
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 11:23:23 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
thiscreates
no scholarly credibility--damages your
Jeff in red:
Now this is on the order of what I was
looking for! I see that Jonathan has a very Hellenized view of sin. And it
appears that he has missed, like most of you the very message of grace in the
Tanach (OK, Old Testament). I'll get back to that in a different
post.
David, I
find
David Miller wrote:
Do you personally think that there are any legal consequences to sin?
Jonathan wrote:
Oh how I have missed the old David Miller debating tactics.
Ask a question - get some sort of agreement on something
considered common sense - and then whammo, come in
for the crushing blow.
Two quick comments:
Jeff: I see that Jonathan has a
very Hellenized view of sin. And it appears that he has missed, like most of
you the very message of grace in the Tanach (OK, Old Testament).
You have got me completely on the wrong side. I do
not view sin in the Greek (Hellenized)
Jeff wrote:
David, I find it interresting that you mention Matthew 5.
Yeshua is amplifying the Torah (law) and making some
of the commandments clearer or easier to understand.
Very good post, Jeff. In Mat. 5, Yeshua was getting at the root of sin in
people's lives, showing that sin must be dealt
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
why not become
'apprised' before you criticize?
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:17:37 -0400 Judy Taylor
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writes:
..I feel no obligation at all to know everything
about everything.
So long as I am apprised..
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myth
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 13:45:31 -0400 "Hughes Jonathan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:..David Miller debating tactics.
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Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
Did I criticise or make any comment about his book The Hornet's Nest other
than
to say I had not heard of that battle during the Revolutionary War?
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 16:29:36 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
why not become
'apprised' before you
Jeff
writes:
"In the beginninjg was the
WORD,, and the WORD was with God and the WORD was
God." The WORD my friend is BOTH Yeshua and
TORAH. To obey Messiah completely is to be obedient to the Torah of God! NOW,
THAT IS THE BIBLICAL VIEW!! Jeff
judyt:
Won't do any good because he's got
Jeff: I do not think that is the
way we will be dressed, but I think you get the point. I think that
eventually all of us on TT will meet, if not in the here and now, then in the
world to come, but a great many people are in for a shock when they reach the
GreatWhite Throne and are asked
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
Yes, in an
exhibition of poor scholarship, jt, partic poor whileyou had not
readthe man you are criticizing:
"Mr. Carter was
[speaking earlier] ..supporting some other liberal view.
Heappears to be involved with the 'world court'.."
- jt, TruthTalk,
Sorry Jonathan, I disagree.
Jonathan: I
would suggest that defining Logos as Torah would be incorrect. The
closest Hebrew equivalent to logos would be dabhar. I do not believe
that dabhar refers to the Torah (law). We could not rephrase John 1.1 as
In the beginning was
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
You call it criticism, I call it commentary. Some people like liberal views
and some people think
the world court is a good idea. Gary I find it abit rich that
you would be upbraiding me about
being a criticwhen for months now you have perched atthe upper
The
word you call dabhar is the word I call Devar. It is a synonym for Torah both in
Tanakh and Rabbinic literature. Therefore, Logos can be translated as either
Devar, (the whole of) Torah, or Memra (Aram).
--
slade
Jonathan: I
would suggest that defining Logos as Torah would be
Hi Jeff,
I am afraid you didnt address any
of the points I made below. One: Torah and Logos are not equivalents;
one is a Person, one a thing, a pointer to a Person. Two: One is
eternal, the other is not. You believe that Torah is still in
effect. I believe that the Word is still in
You're
welcome, Judy.
Definitions of advocate on the
Web:
a person who pleads for a cause or
propounds an idea www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
a lawyer who pleads cases in court
www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn
push for something; "The travel agent
Thank You
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 17:43
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Jeff wrote:
David, I find it interresting that you mention Matthew 5.
Yeshua is amplifying the Torah (law) and making
unless, perhaps,
seeking to be justified by grace is a
command
why wouldn't it
be(?):
..grace was given
us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of
time..(2Tim1)
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 19:38:16 -0400 "Slade Henson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
ANY commandment is
bad if its adherence is
Slade could you please address my points
below? Do you believe it is possible to rewrite John 1.1 to say, in the
beginning was Torah, and Torah was with God and Torah was God? Are you able to
distinguish between a Person (Jesus/Logos) and a thing (Devar/Torah)?
Jonathan
From:
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
regardless, it's
poor scholarship
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:21:32 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I call it commentary
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:02:07 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, in an
exhibition of poor scholarship, jt,
Title: FW: who outsources jobs??
Well at least that warranted four words ... rather than the usual
"myth"
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:55:26 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
regardless, it's
poor scholarship
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 20:21:32 -0400 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Jonathan in pleasant on the eyes green.
I think I responded to most of it but I must go and spend some time with my
wife. Good night all.
David Miller wrote:
Do you personally think that there are any legal consequences
to sin?
Jonathan wrote:
That there are consequences to sin
Slade could you please address my
points below? Do you believe it is possible to rewrite John 1.1 to say, in
the beginning was Torah, and Torah was with God and Torah was God? Are you
able to distinguish between a Person (Jesus/Logos) and a thing
(Devar/Torah)?SLADE SAYS -- Good evening to
Good response Slade. Thank you for taking
the time to do it. I think I need to look at it some more.
Jonathan
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Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004
9:45 PM
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Subject: RE: [TruthTalk]
how's this
jt(?), in 25 words or more:) g
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:49:37 -0600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
unless, perhaps,
seeking to be justified by grace is a
command
why wouldn't it
be(?):
..grace was given
us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of
time..(2Tim1)
In a message dated 10/19/2004 5:33:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The word you call dabhar is the word I call Devar. It is a synonym for Torah both in Tanakh and Rabbinic literature. Therefore, Logos can be translated as either Devar, (the whole of) Torah, or Memra (Aram).
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