Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
al Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December 14, 2005 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard No Lance, I wouldn't acknowledge this to be the case because

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
icizing the'deceived' as you put it, Judy. The difficulty is that some who are, in reality deceived, believe themselves to be 'in the truth' do they not? From: Judy Taylor Meaning that all evangelism and preaching the gospel should

Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
truth.You are forever denigrating persons both on and off TT. You call it speaking the truth when so doing. From: Judy Taylor Oh, here is one I missed, 1. Yes most of the time I find your writings to be unclear rather than plain Lance 2. No I don't imply anything, I fi

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
the latter. From: Judy Taylor How ironic Lance; you are constantly asking me these kinds of questions. So why are they suspect when they come your way? On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:10:33 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is this a trick que

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
it contain a 'spiritual component'? I opt for the latter. From: Judy Taylor How ironic Lance; you are constantly asking me these kinds of questions. So why are they suspect when they come your way? On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 16:10:33 -0500 "Lance Muir&qu

Re: [TruthTalk] TT Double Standard

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An evil accusation you say, Judy? Why don't you research your comments on Polanyi, Torrance, Barth et al? From: Judy Taylor You are reading with the help of the powers of darkness Lance. I do not denigrate people. This is an

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Who is trying to kill you, Blaine, or anyone else JD. Don't make this into something it's not. The men Jesus was speaking to were going to stone the adultress to death but noone said a word about the man and the Law said they were both to be stoned. As for TT. Mormon handshakes and sacred

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-14 Thread Judy Taylor
Dec 2005 16:00:15 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: . . . but noone said a word about the man and the Law said they were both to be stoned. It is not I who speculates, Judy. Bill From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] No that's not it at all Bill Woul

Re: [TruthTalk] TRUE CHRISTIANS SAY NO TO SATAN BEFORE IT MANIFESTS INTO SIN - says Dean Moore

2005-12-13 Thread Judy Taylor
True believers hear the voice of the Spirit when they miss it and they go to the throne of grace to make things right. God doesn't use Nathans anymore and David only missed it in a big way once, maybe twice. It is all going to be "shouted from the housetops" anyway and God knows. so we don't

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-13 Thread Judy Taylor
 Might as well admit it Blaine - you Mormon boys have been sprung. You've got yourselves in a mess over this one. This is exactly what happened with my little friend in Newfoundland Canada. Two good looking Mormon Missionaries had her and her friend snowed. They said they were born again

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-13 Thread Judy Taylor
According to your scale of measure Terry - and assuming you know everything there is to know about the one you are judging. However, only God actually sees and knows the heart and you are judging by how it appears outwardly ... Jesus himself would not have appeared too humble on the day He

Re: [TruthTalk] Beams and Motes

2005-12-13 Thread Judy Taylor
and wonderfully made. On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:14:35 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could you explain what you mean by self rejection?Judy Taylor wrote: Hi Terry, I don't know that any of us would say that they are "self satisfied" in fact not

Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
nd evil?Judy Taylor wrote: God's wisdom is a tree of life JD AE rejected it in favor of the tree of death On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:38:42 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of Life?Adam an

Re: [TruthTalk] Cross

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:44:56 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would expect Satan to teach his people to shun the cross...it is the very instrument of his defeat.DAVEH: Really? As I see it, the cross was the most successful tool Satan could devise to torture and kill

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 Corinthians 2:14-16

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
be 'Spirit-Inspired' (Does Scripture have ONE MEANING? Are both you and David always in possession of that ONE MEANING?) From: Judy Taylor My, my Lance, you've just run right off here into another subject entirely - Let's stick with the one at hand and see what

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 Corinthians 2:14-16

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
rily yours. No but, peoplewill continue to do so. Yes unequivocally! From: Judy Taylor How many meanings do you think it has Lance? Do you think it should be chameleon like for ppl to form it into whatever shape fits their doctrinal demands? Or should we seek the Lor

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 Corinthians 2:14-16

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Are both you and David always in possession of that ONE MEANING?) From: Judy Taylor My, my Lance, you've just run right off here into another subject entirely - Let's stick with the one at hand and see what God has to say about it ... Those prophets are messing with

Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
e you JD, I'd go back to Barth. He is the one with all the answers, along with TFT, Polyani, etc... Why go back when I am doing so good with the biblical text ??!! I will await your answers. Still waiting. jd -Original Mess

Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:05:10 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, you didn't answer the question. The gentile in Romans 2 IS NOT a regeneratedindividual. How do we know this?This is a person who has never heard the preaching of the law of God (Paul contrasts hearing with doing in

Re: [TruthTalk] Saving Faith -- what is it?

2005-12-12 Thread Judy Taylor
Is this fellow talking to himself or what? Maybe he and Gary are in cahoots. He asks the question and then he answers himself ... only Gary doesn't stop at one answer On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 02:59:14 +1100 "Andrew C. Bain" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question : "Who can declare what are

Re: [TruthTalk] Some thoughts from a master teacher

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Why is it necessary to understand what Barth is about JD? Because simple folk like you are busy misunderstanding what Barth is about, JT. OK JD, I should have known better; since Barth is your forte - I leave him to you. I don't care what he was about or what he said or didn't say;

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Blaine writes: The Book of Mormon is the word of God I'm sure you know already that I don't buy that Blaine; God's Words never contradict themselves, he is not confused. Thanks for your concern but to the contraryI am content, I enjoy my life, God has always been faithful so I'm not

Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor I don't see His parables as every day stuff - especially not when he told His disciples that he spoke in parables so that some would not see - rather than to make it easy for the regular run o

Re: [TruthTalk] 1 Corinthians 2:14-16

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
My, my Lance, you've just run right off here into another subject entirely - Let's stick with the one at hand and see what God has to say about it ... Those prophets are messing with your head. 1 Cor2:14 Juxtaposes the two kinds of wisdom - which are natural/worldly and spiritual or

Re: [TruthTalk] Some thoughts from a master teacher

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
I am not of Barth and neither am I of Dakes jt On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 07:59:50 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: what I want to know is what Jesus is saying (present tense) Read Barth (instead of Dakes) From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is it necessary

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
How amazing - This situation completely reverses everything Woe until them that call evil goodandgoodevil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!! (Isa 5:20) On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 05:34:04 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
are cultish in your doctrine and blind to any possibility of change. That is NOT the leadership of the Spirit. If I were you JD, I'd go back to Barth. He is the one with all the answers, along with TFT, Polyani, etc... I will await your answers. jd

Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
] writes: God hasn't redeemed the whole world . ?? !-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:59:04 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable

[TruthTalk] Joybells

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Who is it (I believe JD and Blaine) who are constantly telling me to lighten up - or accusing me of having no joy. Look at this bunch - God's people and I'd say they had some joy .. but it didn't help them any. I guess God must not believe in 'once saved, always saved' "therefore my

[TruthTalk] : Doug Gresham Comments on Narnia

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Interesting comments from CSL's stepson - contradicting the voice of scripture which says loving the brethren is how we know we are "in Him" and His Spirit is in us. The professing church may not be as it should at any given time but where else does one go to findbrethren? Did anyone see

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
Perry in this case obtuse would probably be an improvement I for one find the "abstruseness" since he likes that wordto be quite wearying. On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:15:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe you mean to use the word ABSTRUSE instead of OBTUSE do you not,

Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

2005-12-11 Thread Judy Taylor
wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
. On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:44:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You speak as if the Holy Sprit indwelling and the "..law written on their hearts" are two different things. What exactly do you mean when you, Judy Taylor, speak of the law

Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:26:28 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Me again.JD writes: You speak as if the Holy Sprit indwelling and the "..law written on their hearts" are two different things. What exactly do you mean when you, Judy Taylor, speak of the law writt

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
I have it and have yet to figure out what it is excellent for I'd put it on the same level as "Dead Sea Scrolls" and "Dead Sea Scroll Bibles" On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:17:04 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I SELL this book. It's excellent! - Original Message

Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
MuirNo you wouldn't, Judy. You are in deep doodoo without anyone, including Canadians, keeping 'tabs', as you put it. From: Judy Taylor Sure glad you are keeping up with our economy Lance. Don't know what we would do if we didn't have

Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Why do you call them "the secular allegory of His day?" Iz Wasn't He born under the Law into a theocracy? On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:37:29 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus used the secular allegory of His day; called parables. iz From: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
od spoke through him and, said exactly that. You may be surprised to know just how dependent your country is on Canada. It is NOT JUST the other way 'round. Most yanks are sufficiently insular to know nothing of the rest of the world (including their neighbour) From: Judy T

Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
amily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I use the word secular to denote everyday stuff vs. religious stuff. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor Why do you call them "the secular allegory of His day?" Iz

Re: [TruthTalk] Happy holidays, seasons greetings, X-mas

2005-12-10 Thread Judy Taylor
Interpretation please... Gary is speaking in tongues - Or could it be Dylanspeak?? On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:57:02 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..'bout a 50 megaton blast, baby On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:47:33 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thewestern sun setnearhiroshima

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
JD your dylexia has kicked in again. We who are born through procreation are created in the "image" of the first Adam. They were here first already and the tree of life is what they were encouraged toeat from. to say they were walking in death right then is pure unwarranted speculation;

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:45:44 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: being over protective through fear is one thingDAVEH: That seems to be a tactic of some Christians. For instance, the whole commonly believed scenario about hell being a literal punitive torturous form of

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
what you believe about it. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Let me get this straight - you are saying that the Christians have all been deceived about why the fall happened and you Mormons are the only ones who know the facts of the matter?? Am I hearing correctly??Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
What is the evidence? On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:20:21 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agreed. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they were created "mortal,"

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
ial to die in the absence of the sustenance supplied by the tree of life: "'And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever' -- so the LORD God banished him from the Garden . . ." Bill From: Judy Taylor JD you

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:01:44 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor So they were created one of two ways. They were either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience - OR they were created like us which is mortal

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Blaine do you read the Bible? It was not a coveted sister Cain was jealous of - why not go back and refresh .[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines like Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Judy Taylor So they were created one of two ways. They were either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience - OR they were created lik

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
Yeah! Innocence turned to lust and caring and love turned into pride, selfishness, and shame. On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:52:03 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:34:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, there is evidence that

Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that they were created "mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the garden. jd Above is the strawman that needs

Re: [TruthTalk] Mr. Cleo

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
I thought the same thing - this looks like what we used to call in Australia a golliwog. jt On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:53:46 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Deegan wrote: temple stone!I had kinda pictured God in my mind as having a little different hair do.

[TruthTalk] For DaveH

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
When a woman wears leather clothing, . A man's heart beats quicker, his throat gets dry, he goes weak in the knees, and he begins to think irrationally. Ever wonder why? Because she smells like a new truck.

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
D]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org

Re: [TruthTalk] Strawmen

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
. What do you suppose would be the result of eating from such fruit? I say "continued life." jd From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 00:33:40 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created ju

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
uot; is the need for community than you can for "holy and eternal" jd Oh I know JD - here we go again with the "procession and the perichoresis - and the trinity all dancing with each other" Some things never change. From: Judy Taylor jandgtaylor1@ju

Re: [TruthTalk] Law and Spirit

2005-12-09 Thread Judy Taylor
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:44:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You speak as if the Holy Sprit indwelling and the "..law written on their hearts" are two different things. What exactly do you mean when you, Judy Taylor, speak of the law written on

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
I sure don't wonder at this Christine, Whenever you post JD makes allusions to your age, like he is the old man full of wisdom and you are just the novice who still has to learn; do you sometimes feel like you are being diss'd? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 21:11:05 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
rather than for Him. judyt On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:36:28 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To test them DaveHDAVEH: ??? Do you not think God knew their faith, Judy? Why do you think God would need to test them, since he created themknowing they would transgress?Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Why is it that those people who profess participation, by adoption through Christ in God's family...

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance my goodness, this looks more like a morning rant than morning musings ... sigh! On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05:30:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Forever rail against the graciousness of this selfsame God? Who is railing? Taking His Own Words seriously is hardly

Re: [TruthTalk] On employing the words OF GOD without the WORD OF GOD

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance why don't you trying employing the "words of God" with the WORD OF GOD sometime and give us an example of the "real thing" IYO of course. jt On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05:41:25 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IFF one (mis)cites Scripture with the intention of speaking for

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
ngely) she will then be spoken to more frequently as Christine and, not David's daughter. (I'd mention you mom's name but, don't know it). fn:Christine: Are you at the University of Florida? Do you know of Andrea Sterk? (professor) - Original Message - From: Judy

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says:'FOR THE RECORD I DON't believe csl actually knew the Lord

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes Lance, I do appreciate your concern But I have yet to consign the first person to hell - it's all in your too vivid imagination. On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:19:44 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your DISCERNMENT ON THIS MATTER (who knows, maybe a few other matters also) is

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
ea Sterk? (professor) From: Judy Taylor I sure don't wonder at this Christine, Whenever you post JD makes allusions to your age, like he is the old man full of wisdom and you are just the novice who still has to learn; do yo

Re: [TruthTalk] WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:44:00 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy said'For the record, I don't believe that C. S. Lewis actually knew the Lord' Lance, having made an incorrect leap in logic,due to a belief that Judy believed that persons who die while not knowing the

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance Needs to Check Archives

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
s to what I personally believe. On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:11:05 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WATCH BELOW AS JUDY ASSISTS LANCE IN THE ART OF INTERPRETATION OK Judy! Having painted yourself in a corner, just make yourself comfortable. I'll watch your posts in future for use o

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Are you up to being able to separate the holy from the profane yourself Lance? On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:17:46 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Quoting Judy Taylor: He (God) says that only those who know how to separate the holy from the profane can be his m

Re: [TruthTalk] ATTENTION MODERATOR(s) We do have two (2) of them don't we?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Now, back to the matter at hand; IFF you are wrong concerning JRRT CSL (according to some on TT) then, what are we to think concerning that which we read of you hereafter? From: Judy Taylor Are you up to being able to separate the holy from the profane your

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
OK - You go first On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:32:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are the PERSONS on TT suggesting that that which they say is not embodied truth? J ust say so so that we may factor that in when reading you. judyt He that says "I know Him" and

Re: [TruthTalk] To Lance who is ever seeking the perfect person

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
elves from his Promises. The ones who make it are those who do His will and who speak as the "oracles of God" - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: December

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance's Opinion - My problem???

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Dec 2005 07:45:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy: You made it YOUR problem when you stated that he did not know the Lord. (I don't think you even employed an IMO). Why not, at the very least, give us an "IMO'? From: Judy Taylor That is

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance's Opinion - My problem???

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
... On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:03:56 -0500 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Lance I don't make your opinions my problem so why is what I write your problem? You won't ever have to answer to anyone for it. I am responsible for what I speak/write. Why arn't you just as concerned about

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy asks Lance

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
Are Kevin and Judy chasing them down to behead them or burn them at the stake taking away their opportunity to repent, Lord willing? The latter (as you call them) do not argue with orthodoxy as they are part of it but neither do they sanctify the Lord in their hearts which is apparent by the

Re: [TruthTalk] What is it with this PERSONALIZE PROBLEM?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
and Kevin have this down to an art form !! From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK - You go first On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:32:45 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are the PERSONS on TT suggesting that that which they say is not embo

Re: [TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-08 Thread Judy Taylor
going to Heaven? How is this different from OT days Yes we now have God's Law written on our hearts ??? jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 05

Re: [TruthTalk] There he goes again

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
And of course me too!! judyt On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:26:21 -0800 (PST) Christine Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JD wrote:You have allies on this forum but no real brethren I consider Kevin a dear brother and a man of God. You do not speak for me on this, JD. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[TruthTalk] More Musing......

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Traditions have replaced the Word of God ... People whose hearts are set on the flesh nature need a physical tangible God ... Today this need is fulfilled through a form of godliness manifested by many religious organizations and doctrinal structures ... These like the golden calf, have

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Amen Christine!! Agreed ... Back in the 1960's misguided soul that I was, I waslooking for truth in all the wrong places and as a mother of two young daughters found myself with a friend in her rcc church on Sundays (while living in the Bible Belt no less). Betty Friedan's book The Feminine

[TruthTalk] the Sneaky Pagan

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
If you want to look like Lewis Tolkien read them - If you want to look like Jesus - Selah!! Let them "humanize" you or trust Jesus to send the Promise and make you part of a "New Creation" in Him. C.S. Lewis, the Sneaky PaganThe author of A Field Guide to Narnia says Lewis wove

Re: [TruthTalk] TT's Feminine Mythtique

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Forget it Lance, I've been there and it's a one way street to nowhere big waste of time. On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:27:01 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have either of you examined the role of your churches vis a vis that horrid 'feminism'? Let me hear from either of

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy says: IF YA WANTS TA LOOK LIKE 'EM THEN READ 'EM

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
The difference is in the way we read. You do not respect/revere me in the way you do your favorite theologians and authors and that makes all the difference. They are your teachers... and they are who you will become like On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:55:16 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance not having anything to contribute is back to his old word games....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
I don't recall pronouncing anything at all having to do with evangelism... On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:57:12 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy pronounces relational evangelism with feminists A WASTE OF TIME! Want to add anyone else to the list? judyt He that says "I know

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Don't hold her in less esteem because of her age. Timothy was a pastor wasn't he? I see it the same way she does and I have children who are older than 20 something. You don't understand her POV JD Kevin is for the Truth. How can you argue with that??? On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:03:03 -0500

Re: [TruthTalk] TT's Feminine Mythtique

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
You are at least being honest about this JD - Excellent trait . On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 10:13:33 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Forget it Lance, I've been there and it's a one way street to nowhere big waste of time. = "I haven't a clue." jdFrom: Judy Tay

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
To test them DaveH. Faith is ALWAYS tested. On Wed, 07 Dec 2005 07:24:10 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He did not plan for them to fall.DAVEH: If that is so, then why do you think he placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden of Eden, Terry? Rather than

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
So where are the grounds for your accusation - where does itcome from? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:24:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure you don't! From: Judy Taylor Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance not having anything to contribute is back

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
-0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: With great ease and conviction of heart.Christine is a kid . Timothy was discipled by Paul. :-) jdFrom: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Don't hold her in less esteem because of her age. Timothy was a pastor wasn't he? I see it the same

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
D] writes: I'm sure you don't! From: Judy Taylor Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Lance not having anything to contribute is back to his old word games I don't recall pronouncing anything at all having to do with evangelism... On Wed, 7 Dec

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
befriended, listened to and, prayed with. (Please, no signs!) From: Judy Taylor So where are the grounds for your accusation - where does itcome from? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:24:30 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sure you do

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
You got the subject like right this time Lance. Put down has become your forte On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:49:35 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Indeed Judy!! Anyone old enough to recall Edgar Bergen Charley McCarthy? From: Judy Taylor Christine

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
I didn't see Christine putting anyone down. Who exactly do you reference? On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:23:43 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why go to all that bother when you can just join Christine in 'putting them down'? Duh! From: Judy Taylor

Re: [TruthTalk] Putting people down

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
will find herself stunted. I know of many who , after coming to the Lord, have refused their own experienceswith retardation as a their finale. Thank God we don't have to be right. jdFrom: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christine is mature spiritually whatever her age

Re: [TruthTalk] The accuser is busy ....

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
, the confusion of gender roles, the rise of moral relativism and humanism, the rise of sexual promescuity, etc. On Wed, 7 Dec 2005 11:38:17 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Feminists! Don't you read what she writes? From: Judy Taylor I didn't see Christine putting a

[TruthTalk] Is Judas going to Heaven?

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
Here is one review from Amazon: Every Christian I've ever heard or read has condemned Judas to hell...until Anderson. Anderson's examination of both the Biblical story of Judas and Jesus' teaching on forgiveness demonstrate two things. Christians should have undying hope for everyone, even

[TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
The more I read about this fellow the more alarming it becomes. Of course none of it would matter to Lance, but there is much more mixture than I had previously suspected. C. S. Lewis SuperstarHow a reserved British intellectual with a checkered pedigree became a rock star for

Re: [TruthTalk] CSL comparable to Elvis??

2005-12-07 Thread Judy Taylor
for Christianity? Christians get so EXCITED about a Movie, do they get so excited about Jesus? Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The more I read about this fellow the more alarming it becomes. Of course none of it would matter to Lance, but there is much more

Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject--AE

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
that they would definitely transgress, or do you think there was a possibility that they would not transgress?Judy Taylor wrote: You have brought this up in the past on TT DaveH but it didn't last long because there is no place to go with it. By definition all anyone could

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
So, is Anderson's thesis that because Jesus put up with a false disciple that the wheat should be chummy with all the tares which would be contradictory to Kevin's scriptural evidence for separation/sanctification. On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 06:00:41 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Oh now that makes a bit more sense - since so much other nonsense comes out of that place. On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 04:01:45 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Consider the source. Fuller Theo.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two excellent books

Re: [TruthTalk] Separation

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Yes, Jesus was longsuffering with him all along because He knew but let him hold the purse anyway. Now that's faith. On Tue, 6 Dec 2005 04:06:58 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jesus Loved him but He did not win him.Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [TruthTalk] Lance advocating unbelieving apocalyptic novels

2005-12-06 Thread Judy Taylor
Judy says 'SINCE SO MUCH OTHER NONSENSE COMES OUT OF THAT PLACE (FULLER SEMINARY) I don't read novels; we are cautioned to guard our hearts with all diligence - As for Fuller, part of their teaching staff did not believe in the inerrance of scripture - also this is where Wagner gave the

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