Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 8:05:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John: With apologies-Onto-relational, perichoresis. Both closer to the mark vis a vis "Being as Communion". Your mission should you...Lance Don't betoo hard on yourself -- without your imput (Izzy -- check

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 8:17:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why cling to doctrines that will never conform you to godliness and/or holiness? Why do you say that salvation by grace apart from works is a false doctrine? I don't go out and live like hell knowing that

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 8:28:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: john: What do people in your church do for fellowship -- just sit around quoting scripture. John jt: True fellowship ONLY happens when we receiving understanding from God so that we can agree from the

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 9:41:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Don't betoo hard on yourself -- without your imput (Izzy -- check it out) we would be at greound zero on this point. I got it right this time (input rather than impute -- right? ) The other is the fault

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 9:03:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why cling to doctrines that will never conform you to godliness and/or holiness? Who said that I did this? Nothing I believe in or teach leads me away from life's attempt at

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 3:41:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: WhewI thought you were regressing, there, John. J Izzy I keep trying, Izzy. In fact, my mother said I was always trying. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 6:23:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We all come up a little short, and we hate that. So, before the cross we practiced sin and committed acts of righteousness. Now we practice righteousness and commit acts of sin. I thought that sounded

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Children

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 6:59:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Shirley has had migraine headaches with this pregnancy. Please pray for their protection, and for the Lord to bless, prosper, and use them mightily. Thanks so much. I just did and my sweetie and I will

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/10/2004 8:24:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like too many think it too rude to tell David Miller that he is wrong about this and why he is wrong. Hasn't been my problem. When ignored, however, I leave well enough along. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 4:10:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At the consummation of the age do we go to heaven or, does heaven come to us? Did Jesus assume the pre or post fallen nature of Adam at the Incarnation? Is human nature comprised of one, two or three "parts"

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 5:38:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like that, John. Izzy I leave well enough along. John Thank you. I must say that I mean DavidM nothing but good. He is genuine in his personal effort spent on being a passonate follower of Christ.

Re: [TruthTalk] UPC

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 8:42:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, John Smithson, you have been fooled by the enemy due to bad experience with UPC (Under Privileged Children). An exceedingly vile and wicked organization with yet a few of the children of The Almighty

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 6:40:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Miller is the only one on this list that I have met in person, and we did not get an opportunity to spend as much time together as I would have liked, but I can guarantee you without reservation

Re: [TruthTalk] Brainieac?

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 8:51:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That would be "rile" ... too bad about the right and wrong thing indeed ... you and the Smithsonian both put up a good front but it is all for show and telling rather than about ultimate truth. What do

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Children

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 8:56:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember a family in a fellowship I was with where the little girl prayed that God would let her have identical twin brothers. Her mother was not pregnant, was not planning to be pregnant, and there were

Re: [TruthTalk] Great idea, Smithson!

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
I'm proud of you, kid. Your post has some good info -- several points I had was not aware of. Thanks In His Grace John In case you are wondering -- this is Chris' remarks concerning the book of James (Yacov). In a message dated 4/11/2004 9:46:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [TruthTalk] Pseudo Science

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 10:22:36 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not a good reputation, on this website at least and I have a problem with anyone claiming to "cure people" by nutrition alone. Where there is sickness there is always a sin issue. Where did you get this

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Children

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 12:37:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: Divination and deception are one and the same. Why just assume that demons will not work through a child? Everyone who comes into this world has a fallen Adamic nature and this includes every child.

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Children

2004-04-11 Thread Knpraise
What are the odds that God had something specific to do with this story (originally from Terry, I believe)? In a message dated 4/11/2004 6:25:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I remember a family in a fellowship I was with where the little girl prayed that God

Re: [TruthTalk] Pseudo Science

2004-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 7:21:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Also God is the healer and any healing by other means is divination. God can't use a doctor? JS said: Those who use divination and evil spirits to are not and cannot be children of God. God does not

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Children

2004-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 7:38:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: john: This is absolutely over the top, even for judyt. You must believe in childhood conversion inspite of the fact that not one such example is given in NT scripture. jt: I've never stated that

Re: [TruthTalk] Pseudo Science

2004-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/11/2004 7:51:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: have trouble equating healing with bread. As to the statistics you supplied, is a ninety-five percent rate of failure is considered normal by those who claim to be healers? Were the failures the fault of

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2004 6:23:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: So Terry, do you think a saved Christian who converts to Mormonism has lost their salvation? = God's ways are beyond my understanding Dave.

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2004 9:21:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judy, you are s right. I see quite clearly now the concern. I was talking about what happens to Christians when we fail to trust first. Pretty soon the accuser is having his way with us, and more than

Re: [TruthTalk] Packaging ...

2004-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2004 4:41:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I follow the example of my Master. He was more tender with the blatant heathens (most but not all the time) than with the religious folk. I am the same. No He wasn't. Chris. He went after those LEADERS who

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Children

2004-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/12/2004 5:11:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All this worry because I recounted the answered prayers of an innocent child. I thought your testimony was great and not one negative anything came to mind. My children are likewise a blessing. If any

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2004 3:44:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What have I said in this discussion that constitutes sin in your eyes? Please quote it for me. It is very easy for you to sling ad hominem insults and judgments, but it takes a little more effort to

Re: [TruthTalk] Medical research is used MUCH by YHVH

2004-04-13 Thread Knpraise
Apparently, you are the only non-pharisee on the list. And why are you here, again? I mean, your gracious arttitude and forebearance has put us all at your feet. My guess is that you have offended so many people in the real world, that you are afraid to step out side so here you are with us --

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2004 7:40:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So.to me, fellowship does not start and end with Church.it begins with Jesus and crosses most all boundaries. A heartfelt amen to these words. When I was a kid ( I can just barely remember), the

Re: [TruthTalk] Medical research is used MUCH by YHVH

2004-04-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/13/2004 8:37:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John: You elicited a chuckle on an otherwise not-so-great day. Thanks, Lance Thank you, sir. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Anger

2004-04-14 Thread Knpraise
Good morning, Lzzy. Thank you for the post. Nothing God does is sin, of course. And perhaps "anger" is not the word I am searching for. Whatever it is -- the underlying attitude -- it is not good and allows for angry responses. Often, I see it with the kids-at-risk that I work with from time to

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
I am into my busy season and sometimes there are a few long days. The past several days, it is eat, sleep and work. For an old guy, that is hard. Hey, works a curse. But I am back, for what it is worth. John David Miller wrote: What did I say in any of my posts that causes you to

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/14/2004 6:50:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perry clarified: John, if your Christ is the brother of Satan, the literal son of a god who was once a man who comes from the planet Kolob, then they may very well be the same christ. But, if your Christ

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/14/2004 6:55:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A heartfelt amen to these words. When I was a kid ( I can just barely remember), the church I attended taught a 5 step "plan of salvation." Then I moved on and that was great, because the "plan of

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/14/2004 7:39:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This idea is what I have serious problems with. Do you really think God is blind to your sin? Do others here who believe in the Christians-continue-to-sin theology also think that the atonement means that

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
Here is something I do agree with DavidM. DavidH IS a Mormon. I would expect him to refer to that teaching from time to time. He is great, i believe, in supporting his doctrine with KJV, leaving out of the discussion (generally speaking) the other Mormon writings. John In a message dated

Re: [TruthTalk] Anger

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/14/2004 12:48:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, what is hanging cabs? Im glad youre on the list, even at midnight. Izzy I am a finish carpenter. "Cabs" is short for cabinets. Sorry for the lingo thing. John

Re: [TruthTalk] [Fwd: Whodunit !!!]

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/15/2004 7:14:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The answer to the question of who killed Jesus is: Lance, Terry, Izzy, David M, John, Bill, Gary, Dave H, etc, etc, etc, Izzy Praise God for miracles -- Izzy is right and so IS TERRY. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/17/2004 8:13:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Welcome back, old guy. - Original Message - Looks like the new threads are interesting. I believe I will watch and read for a while -- but be it known that I am not far away. Good looking

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/17/2004 9:05:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, Work is a blessing. Working 7 days a week is a curse. Izzy I am trying to believe !! Can we say cortisone shot -- woe is me ? And Izzy --- if pastor Chris chooses not to practice I Cor

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: do not think that I am any better than you or anybody else on this list (well, maybe I think I'm better than Izzy's cat), so perhaps what you are seeing are just terse opinionated statements and nothing

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-17 Thread Knpraise
Has anyone heard of Care of Souls by David Benner? A book on dream works from a Christian perspective. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: ... All I know is when I finish some of your responses to me, they have left me more than frustrated. I try to be challenging in my posts in order to bring about some learning, so I am not

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2004 5:26:03 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No I havent. Can you tell us more about what you like about it? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 11:51 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/17/2004 10:28:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To my knowledge, I have never taken anything that you have said personally. You have never made a personal remark toward me that I can remember. I am curious. You were very critical of me for slinging

Re: [TruthTalk] Lying

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2004 5:29:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: chris: My addressing that is not ad hominem in its pure definition. An ad hominem argument is one where the presenter is addressed rather than the message. I address the message AND expose the presenter

Re: [TruthTalk] Christian Perfection

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2004 6:07:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My cat has decided to ignore that comment as coming from a grossly inferior Species..Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:TruthTalk- I do not think that I am any better

Re: [TruthTalk] Pet Diaries Uncovered

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2004 6:17:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is great -- good way to start the day. John Subject: Fwd: FW: Pet Diaries Uncovered As seen in a dog's diary: 8am - Oh Boy! Dog food! My favorite! 9am - Oh Boy! A car ride! My favorite 10am

Re: [TruthTalk] The Being and Nature of the Unborn Child

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2004 6:24:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: jt: I would disagree with John's interpretation of Romans 6,7,8. Sin is always a spiritual problem. When the serpent spoke to AE in the garden was it inhabited by a spirit being? Not only a spirit being but

Re: [TruthTalk] The Being and Nature of the Unborn Child

2004-04-18 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 4/18/2004 7:20:47 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good John, Maybe we are making some progress here :) judyt When I agree with you -- that is progress? Visa verse - ah Hver a great worship day John

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 8:31:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm getting lost even more. "Didache" = doctrine, so why do you use it to refer to faith? Didache has to do with the intellect. And what does "passionate" have to do with faith? Passionate = sensuality and

Re: [TruthTalk] Covering the Head

2004-05-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/13/2004 7:02:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Judyt: Amen! Indeed women do LIVE the gospel. The content of your, Izzy's Laura's posts just get better and better. Form AND content both matter HOWEVER, to repeat myself: We're not looking forward to God

Re: [TruthTalk] SOME WOMEN JUST WANT TO LOOK LIKE TEMPLE PROSTITUTES

2004-05-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/13/2004 9:11:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Could it be that your own wife, Dr. Jan, does not have long hair, does not wear a proper headcovering, and does not preach to bums on the street??? I heard that Jan refused to weasr the headcoverings Elsman

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 6:40:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Had I been a girl, I would have been the shame of the family. In those days, my idea of the perfect woman was a beautiful blue eyed platinum blond deaf and dumb nymphomaniac that owned a liquor store. I

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-13 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/13/2004 5:14:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Miller wrote: I'm getting lost even more. "Didache" = doctrine, so why do you use it to refer to faith? Didache has to do with the intellect. And what does "passionate" have to do with faith?

Re: [TruthTalk] Smiling Jesus one more time

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
Lance -- salute John Smithson In a message dated 5/10/2004 4:02:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The former post should have been understood as meaning that Jesus is everywhere present from the beginning to the ending. Whatever the question the answer is Jesus! TPW:

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
Thanks for the information on HH and his wife. I agree with just about everything you say in this post. I just want the truth on this man. When you put his "accomplishments" side by side on the same page, they are more than noteworthy. Were all these things true, HH would have third party

Re: [TruthTalk] Vegetarianism in Scripture?

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 7:23:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The fact of the matter, Paul, in Romans 14, is dealing with the Jewish Christian. Solid hit in the right field! "Know ye not, brethren, (FOR I SPEAK TO THEM THAT KNOW THE LAW) ..." Romans 7:1 One honors

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert --ELSMAN BIG JOHN SEARCH TOGETHER

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
first Outer Mongolia and now he saves Elvis. Praise from the Pope, and brother Ronny, PhD from the First Church of the What's Happen Now, 70,000 Jews saved welll every time I come up with anything critical about the good preacher, you guys come up with something is beyond noteworthy. And

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women--JUDY SPREADS MANURE

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 11:43:15 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Elsman, You need to spend less time in the Mens Room. Izzy THIS HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD DAY FOR YOU. DID YOU MEAN TO SAY: ".NOR IS IT IN ANY MAN WHO IS FULL OF MANURE"? It's why his hair kept

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women--JUDY SPREADS MANURE

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 12:03:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: subtle

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 1:08:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: This person is "weak" only becasue he is wrong. We know that the passion of his faith is just fine. You seem to be perceiving faith as "intellectual." I see faith as a trust and confidence.

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert --ELSMAN BIG JOHN JEZEBEL JUDY SEARCH TOGETHER

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/10/2004 2:41:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looks like Hubert should have warned everybody, huh? Hey, you cotton picker -- you are pretty much the king of the one and two liners. Grace John

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women

2004-05-09 Thread Knpraise
Meladrama is what we have here. DavidM speaks as if we are supposed to know something about HH. Who beat his wife. When. Elsman admits that her mental problems were not the result of trauma. DavidM seems to be saying exactly the opposite."Have you no decency?" Lighten up. I am working on

Re: [TruthTalk] Vegetarianism in Scripture?

2004-05-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/9/2004 7:56:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Romans 14 and I Timothy 4 have nothing at all to do with vegetarianism. Nada. Zip. Zilch. The entire subject of Romans 14 has to do with putting personal scruples and/or convictions not set forth in

Re: [TruthTalk] Bible versions

2004-05-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/9/2004 8:21:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just calling Bruce Metzger a scoundrel Outer Mongolia ??? J

Re: [TruthTalk] Interesting questions, Izzy.

2004-05-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/9/2004 5:31:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: TPW, I am Serious! Can you please tell me? Do you think I have a clue how someone like you believes? :-) Izzy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Arsene

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Who did Jesus Die for and Who did He Reconcile to H...

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:14:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Terry: see this because this is what the whole Bible teaches. Jonathan: this is easily proven wrong if you would just once deal with the scriptures the whole Bible, not just the ones that satisfy your

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:36:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: HE TOLD ME IN CONFIDENCE. HIS ESTATE MAY HAVE AN ASSET. IF YOU KNOW THE LITERATURE ON THE SUBJECT, THERE ARE MANY THAT HAVE MADE FORTUNES ON THEIR OWN MEMORY COURSES: -- DAVE DE BUSSCHER, B-BALL PLAYER --

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:44:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, Funny, and so typical. I remember once my Sweetie and I were attempting to figure out how many square feet our odd-shaped deck was so we could estimate gallons of paint we needed. He (typically) got out

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 8:55:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MY PROBLEM IS THAT I ONLY "MEMORIZED" THE NAME BUTTERBALL FROM THAT OTHER SITE, WHERE WE ALL CALLED HIM BUTTERBALL, Actually, only Elsman used this _expression_. Just another lie -- but who is counting.

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 9:00:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: Anyway -- lets get back to bible study and warm and passionate discussion. Sounds good to me. Alright, then. John

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 9:31:18 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I really hope you do the homework on HH. Wouldnt that be a fascinating book? (Better than The Apostle?) Izzy Truly. He sounds fascinating and his disciples sound a little gullible. The truth is

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Who did Jesus Die for and Who did He Reconcile to H...

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 9:35:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: About 85% of the population in our country are Christians. Most of these are Christian in name only. They do not really believe. So ther you have it -- judgment day not necessary. The Cross - not effective.

Re: [TruthTalk] Courtesy of Cousin Chuck

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
Great story. I have already used this evening. Didn't give you credit. Sorry. John In a message dated 5/6/2004 7:11:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: teenage boy had just gotten his driving permit. He asked his father, if they could discuss his use of the family car.

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Who did Jesus Die for and Who did He Reconcile to H...

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 9:53:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, nobody would go to hell without judgment day. Also, the judgment is based upon works. Therefore, judgment day is necessary, but you are right that the cross is not effective for those who are

Re: [TruthTalk] [ChristianChatter] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 10:23:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: What's the problem with Mt 5:48, John? As Nike would say.Just do it! ;-) "Be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect." Instant reality or a continuing process? Grace is needed in the

Re: [TruthTalk] [ChristianChatter] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 10:46:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Instant reality or a continuing process? Grace is needed in the second senario and not at all in the first. John DAVEH: When I first made the comment, it was in jest. Since your more serious reply though, I

Re: [TruthTalk] syntax semantics

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 5:07:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone on TT has said "It says what it means and means what it says" when quoting Scripture. More often than not it means what we, you and I, say it means. Ask your kids if they know what you believe about

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Who did Jesus Die for and Who did He Reconcile to H...

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 5:34:35 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (Justified apart from obedience applies to all believers. A person is justified before God, at the moment of faith, which then brings about good works from him. His old life is passed away at that moment, and

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 5:48:00 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay, guys, call off the dogs! Izzy (And I dont think I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"either of you are well-trained. J ) So you think we have pretty much worn this one out ??? Ok John

Re: [TruthTalk] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:01:20 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: "Be ye perfect as your heavenly Father is perfect." Instant reality or a continuing process? Grace is needed in the second senario and not at all in the first. That's my story and I sticking

Re: [TruthTalk] syntax semantics

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:14:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes it is! The truth is a Person. Our articulation(s) concerning that Person are but an approximation. One trusts it to be a maturing approximation but an approximation none the less. Blessings, Lance Preach

Re: [TruthTalk] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:29:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 5/7/2004 8:28:37 AM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's my story and I sticking with it. Incidentally, judgment is based on works to those who are hell bound and upon

Re: [Fwd: Re: [TruthTalk] Who did Jesus Die for and Who did He Reconcile to H...

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
Izzy, That is what I believe. This thing we call faith is fully understood (from my point of view) in the phrase "passionate faith." Sometimes this passion defends or extolls that which is not true -- but it passionate faith nonetheless and acceptable to our God. This issue of faith vs works

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 4:40:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, I cant believe you are telling me that its okay with God if you are passionate about your faith in Hare Krishna or Osama Bin Laden! And what if you believe in Jesus Christ: how do you determine if you

Re: [TruthTalk] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 5:31:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just wondering John. Don't you think that the works of the Saints will be judged? Not to determine salvation, but to determine crowns/rewards? Terry It does seem that scripture teaches this. But, frankly, I

Re: [TruthTalk] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:19:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, I know what you mean. We work out of love/devotion, not expecting something in return. Still, the crowns are the Lord's idea, and I think it would be better to have crowns when it comes time to cast them

Re: [TruthTalk] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
What are your thoughts on this, Izzy? John In a message dated 5/7/2004 6:48:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John, What if it matters to Him? Izzy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 6:39 PM

Re: [TruthTalk] When Did We Exist?

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 7:08:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think it matters Very Much. Pursue holiness. Pursue righteousness. I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"Let NOTHING be more important to you. Pursue Him. You will have eternity to wish you had. Time is

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-07 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/7/2004 7:39:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In other words, non-essentials dont really matter in the light of eternity? What do you consider essentials to be? Izzy Please do not forget that I actually quoted some scripture, here. It is Paul who tells

Re: [TruthTalk] The Passion Test

2004-05-08 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/8/2004 7:19:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: Please do not forget that I actually quoted some scripture, here. It is Paul who tells us that faith and doctrinal correctness are two different things. What is essential? For me, the

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey

2004-05-05 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/5/2004 7:32:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John S. wrote: ... you are admitting that there is nothing out there that verifies his associations, credentials, and evangelistic successes - right? No, I am not admitting that. You can go look for them

Re: [TruthTalk] Hubert and women

2004-05-05 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/5/2004 7:38:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe you should turn TT into a "Men's Room" and invite Daniel back? Izzy P Lzzz.

Re: [TruthTalk] All the difference in the world-David Miller

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 3:48:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Worship" someone said "is participation by the Spirit in the Son's communion with the Father". True theological reflection ought to be inseparable from true worship. Blessings, Lance Helpful quotation. --

Re: [TruthTalk] CAN WE ELIMINATE WOMEN FROM THIS FORUM

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 2:55:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "To ignore or minimize" Does that include the culture that obtains within your worship circle? Blessings, Lance- Original Message - Sad to say but it is even worse than this: religion is the ring

Re: [TruthTalk] Re:That FUNDAMENTALLY challenges....

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
I can't imagine that we would disagree with this. A good lead in. -- John In a message dated 5/6/2004 4:30:31 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (What follows is intended to pertain to all (TPW excepted I suppose)I believe myself to be God's child (read I've been born from

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 7:10:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DAVEH: HmmJS2 might work, eh! Whatever works -- but I don't sit and roll over. JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 11:19:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm wondering if the "Memory course" is, in fact, scientific or if that is just hype. Experience tells me that this is just more of the mythology of Happy Hubert. And I am speaking of the "memory course." J

Re: [TruthTalk] Holy Hubert Lindsey's Memory Course

2004-05-06 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 5/6/2004 12:08:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: DaveH, Perhaps the problem is that Elsman forgot what they were. J Izzy Sometimes the truth is just as funny as the fiction. Good one, my dear. J

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